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No. 0     Original Topic: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 2:24 PM   Viewed 203253 times     
The following pertains to members from the continent of Africa, along with anyone who receives letters from people living in that part of the world.

I actually made this change a while back (months ago), viewable right up top for new applicants upon signing up. Now it is time to alter the agreement between members who arrived before the change, along with advising everyone else about the new policy. I am sorry for ever reaching this point.


African applicants: With regret though necessity, we have decided to restrict emailing privileges. There have been enormous levels of scammers and perhaps sincere individuals contacting American and European men and women.

Whether in search of money, a passport or truly desiring to find a husband or wife thousands of miles away from home, a site of this size can not endure the constant letter writing emanating out of that one continent. Therefore, all letters written from African members must go to other people in Africa unless prior permission is obtained in writing from the site's Administrator.

Violations of this policy may result in all of your mail being deleted and even your entire membership.

One exception is that ongoing correspondence between people formerly in contact may continue. New contacts may not be initiated.

Anyone found to be writing from Africa while listing another country for a home address will be immediately removed from the site.

Sorry for the drastic step. Our suggestion is to acquire a membership at one of the 100,000 member sites where the deluge of correspondence will hardly be noticed. At a site of this size, we are getting complaints all the time.


As this message will be presented upon logging in, everyone online after the posting of this thread will be considered to have read about the change. Further participation on the site will be taken as an agreement to abide by the new rules.

Again, my apology for the drastic measures. When rules are imposed, a few innocent people usually always end up unfairly burdened. The reality of what we are given to operate with must be a taken into account, however, when deciding how to operate the site. And I find little to any benefit from subjecting members to the aggressive letter writing from one small part of the world oceans away.

Therefore, any letters from this point forward from a stranger based in that continent may be reported using the link provided on the My In Box mail page.

Just to make sure we are clear, regular members may write to someone from Africa any time whatsoever. Those who have already been writing may continue doing so in either direction. What we are talking about are letters FROM a member living in Africa to someone he or she has not spoken to before.

Also, the part about prior permission from the Administrator: That is designed for a very unlikely though possible exception if someone feels that he or she may have spotted the one love of a lifetime. In which case, I would probably allow writing to a single individual just to see if the passion might be reciprocated.

If there are any questions, comments or complaints, feel free to post them here, or in private. Very few of the rules are written in stone. That means I can (theoretically, at least) be talked into changing or changing back if presented with a persuasive argument. So, have at it if you like. Maybe you know something I have yet to think of.
No. 1     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Pat795   Gender: M   Age: 38   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 2:47 PM     
Thank you for your continued faithful efforts with this site. God Bless.
No. 2     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  JimWest   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 3:00 PM     
I am in full accord with you. This is an excellent step, and needed. I myself have encountered numerous women from Africa writing me, not merely on this site, but others too. They use some US city as their point of origin, as if they live there, then one finds out they are really in Africa (Nigeria is the favorite country). Sadly, as you said, all must suffer for the transgressions of the some. And virtually all have tried to get money for some reason or other from me.
No. 3     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  GodsMedic   Gender: M   Age: 44   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 3:05 PM     
You are doing a GREAT job!!!! Keep up the good work!!!!
No. 4     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  FREEDOM   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 3:06 PM     
good idea; thanks dude, and God bless.
No. 5     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Birchman   Gender: M   Age: 53   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 3:41 PM     
Dev

This will add to the quality of your site. Quality is what draws quality people.

Thanks for taking this step.

Birchman
No. 6     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  anneke   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 4:13 PM     
Thanks for all you do to make this site a better place -- for you and for us.
No. 7     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Tim730   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 4:27 PM     
Fair enough but why not Africans a chance by allowing them in if they pay $1 to post their photo - that would cut out most spammers.
No. 8     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  projectgod46   Gender: M   Age: 27   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 4:29 PM     
Anyone found to be writing from Africa while listing another country for a home address will be immediately removed from the site.

i think it is a good plan but keep in mind there are people that do travel out side of contrys and use the internet.

track email that users flag as abuse or spam(have a link that user can click when reading the email) and delete the user after you comfrim the user is doing so. it would be better than penilizing afica for it as a whole.
No. 9     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  SonShines   Gender: F   Age: 27   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 4:36 PM     
Very well written annoucement.
No. 10     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Jimmy98   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 4:45 PM     
Most of the African members that we have now seem to be honest people. I've had trouble with the "Nigerian Scam" for years just on my private email address so I know what you mean though. I think if it were me I'd place all new members from that part of the world on a moderated status for a while, say a week, and watch what happens. Usually scammers will vanish in that length of time once they see that the site is monitored. It's worked on seveal sites I moderate on.

Jimmy
No. 11     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Padraic   Gender: M   Age: 48   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 5:21 PM     
If it's needed,go for it.
No. 12     Reply: Re: Regrettable...   
By:  Celt983   Gender: M   Age: 45   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 5:44 PM     
but necessary and understandable.

I am deluged with email scams from Africa on various mail sites. It seems as fast as I block them or add them to the spam folder a new set of scammers takes their place.

Perhaps their economy will one day mushroom so they don't feel the need to "rip people off" any longer...
No. 13     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  LilBu   Gender: F   Age: 40   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 5:46 PM     
I agree 100% i have been contacted by a man from this country and he was asking me to call him and of course i did not call him, but i did not like his attitude. Good step....
No. 14     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  randee   Gender: M   Age: 34   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 5:47 PM     
Heck of a good idea, although, this will severely cut down on new women contacting me with marriage proposals.
No. 15     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  uTOOcanBanti-nondenom   Gender: M   Age: 46   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 5:56 PM     
No. 16     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  RobertoVO5   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 6:02 PM     
While I appreciate your motives, your actions go too far. You have no need to respond to complainers (whiners, in my opinion) who get mail from those with whom they have no desire to communicate. All the recipient must do is simply delete the email. That's it! No muss; no fuss. If anyone is stupid enough to fall for those "I have millions in my account here in Nigeria and will you help me move it to America" get what they deserve. You, the Webmaster, have no moral or scriptural obligation to set yourself up as the gatekeeper. We are all adults, and to be frank, it sounds as though you are treating us as children. And yes, you are subjecting those who live in Africa to unfair treatment. Why not invoke the same policy to those who live in Russia and Ukraine? I know for a fact that there are thousands of women desperate to get out of those countries and will do anything, even misrepresent their feelings towards an unsuspecting American, just to get out. When they hook up with that poor sap, they stay married the obligatory amount of time, then high-tail it out of there for greener pastures elsewhere.

So, I disagree with the policy as it stands. I do support your efforts at ridding the site of spammers, as they have no business being here. People who misrepresent themselves, i.e. falsely stating where they live, posting photos of those who are obviously models, and those trying to raise money for their "ministries", need to be booted.
No. 17     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  SonShines   Gender: F   Age: 27   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 6:11 PM     
RobertoVO5 wrote:

While I appreciate your motives, your actions go too far. You have no need to respond to complainers (whiners, in my opinion) who get mail from those with whom they have no desire to communicate. All the recipient must do is simply delete the email. That's it! No muss; no fuss.


Now, I might be wrong, but I thought websites which host email pay for all the bandwidth needed to exchange emails? If this is the case, MeetChristians must pay for all this junk mail.
No. 18     Reply: Re: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  RobertoVO5   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 6:45 PM     
SonShines wrote:

RobertoVO5 wrote:

While I appreciate your motives, your actions go too far. You have no need to respond to complainers (whiners, in my opinion) who get mail from those with whom they have no desire to communicate. All the recipient must do is simply delete the email. That's it! No muss; no fuss.


Now, I might be wrong, but I thought websites which host email pay for all the bandwidth needed to exchange emails? If this is the case, MeetChristians must pay for all this junk mail.


Well, if that's the case--fine. But, why didn't Dev explain it that way?
No. 19     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 7:20 PM     
Tim730 wrote:

Fair enough but why not Africans a chance by allowing them in if they pay $1 to post their photo - that would cut out most spammers.

I am presently incapable of making the coding changes for implementing such a system. And the site fails to generate sufficient income to farm the work out. Besides, they are fine doing their work without photos, trust me. It's a good thought, however. A mandatory pay system would eliminate most of the problem. But there are issues preventing even a small mandatory fee from being realistic.
No. 20     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 7:31 PM     
projectgod46 wrote:

Anyone found to be writing from Africa while listing another country for a home address will be immediately removed from the site.

i think it is a good plan but keep in mind there are people that do travel out side of contrys and use the internet.

Maybe I should suggest that people write in their profile if visiting another country, especially that region. Tough call. One of the practices of scammers is to pretend to be visiting Africa. Difficult sifting through them. I will need to evaluate the circumstances upon encountering each situation.

it would be better than penilizing afica for it as a whole.

All of that requires money for programming changes. I am in effect taking the cheap route. More than just scammers though, I happen to find it rather weird that even many of the more legitimate individuals would be interested in using up time trying to become acquainted with a potential mate from sooooooo far away. Kind of leaves me with the impression that we are talking more about passports and an escape from down there than real love. And while I may be wishing for the same if born there, my job is to run a website that people get use from AND enjoy frequenting.

Here is a little scenario that may not get thought of by many. Plenty of people get no letters or very few. They are the forgotten ones, maybe older, not in great health or lacking what are considered good looks. Now imagine how they feel bothering to log in over here after no mail for weeks, maybe months, then only to find a letter from Africa. And what if it occurs another time and another. I don't wish to run a site that puts people through that level of pain and frustration.

So,,, mixing all of the ingredients that make up the reality of this website, out goes Africa altogether except for long-time members who have demonstrated a willingness to be satisfied making friends long-distance, talking in the forums and looking for love closer to home.

There is no perfect solution at the moment.
No. 21     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Seasoned   Gender: F   Age: 35   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 7:35 PM     
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!
No. 22     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 7:38 PM     
Jimmy98 wrote:

I think if it were me I'd place all new members from that part of the world on a moderated status for a while, say a week, and watch what happens. Usually scammers will vanish in that length of time once they see that the site is monitored. It's worked on seveal sites I moderate on.

Jimmy

See reply #20. It is a reasonable idea under slightly different circumstances, more income, more members, more volunteers or enough income to pay for coding changes and people to moderate new members. As it is, I spend hours and hours each week working the website. Fortunately, I enjoy the time, so far. If that changes, however, then things are going to be far less tidy. And already areas in need go un-attended.
No. 23     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 7:41 PM     
randee wrote:

Heck of a good idea, although, this will severely cut down on new women contacting me with marriage proposals.

Me too! Lacking the real thing, sometimes the false hope of great sounding possibilities begins looking okay for a moment. Oh well, life is replete with compromise.
No. 24     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 7:49 PM     
RobertoVO5 wrote:

While I appreciate your motives, your actions go too far. You have no need to respond to complainers (whiners, in my opinion) who get mail from those with whom they have no desire to communicate.

This isn't about the complaining. It is about the enjoyment of the site, being inconvenienced, being forced to again calculate the ratio of actual letters expressing interest to those who are merely hoping to steal or get citizenship.


If anyone is stupid enough to fall for those "I have millions in my account here in Nigeria and will you help me move it to America" get what they deserve.

Truly, if even most of them were of the obvious type you refer to, we would not be in this discussion. No, they are far more nefarious, leading to a cruel con job and complete waste of enormous amounts of time by people, oftentimes VERY convincing. I would be cruel myself for allowing members to be subjected to such a condition.


You, the Webmaster, have no moral or scriptural obligation to set yourself up as the gatekeeper. We are all adults, and to be frank, it sounds as though you are treating us as children.

Read the rule again. You are still welcome to write to as many African members as you like. Aside from that, maybe take into account that while you may be sharp as a razer at identifying problems, others may lack where you excel just as you may lack where others excel. I can not tailor rules to custom fit just one type of person.


And yes, you are subjecting those who live in Africa to unfair treatment. Why not invoke the same policy to those who live in Russia and Ukraine?

That one is rather easy. More than 90 percent of the problem emanates from Africa.


I know for a fact that there are thousands of women desperate to get out of those countries and will do anything

If they ever invade this website the way Nigerians have, Russia will get added to the no-email list.
No. 25     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  tcblake1525   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 7:54 PM     
You did the RIGHT thing! Thnx!!
No. 26     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  sweet_lady   Gender: F   Age: 40   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 8:30 PM     
I am in total agreement with you
No. 27     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  jhtcpa73   Gender: M   Age: 40   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 8:31 PM     
I agree wholeheartedly with your decisoin
No. 28     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Amazingthing   Gender: F   Age: 23   on  Nov 27, 2006 at 11:09 PM     
Hi,
Do what you have to. I'm cool with it!
God bless you...and thanks 4 letting us know.
No. 29     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  surlivan627   Gender: M   Age: 33   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 12:37 AM     
I support this measure eventhough it will negetively affect some innocent and sincere people of which I know I am one.But it will never eliminate the issue of high levels of scamming through the site.One thing true and certain is that while criminals and people of questionable characters will always find some ways of continuing in their evil designs,genuine individuals will end up being unfairly burdened.But its ok and I personally understand ur point.

Surlivan
No. 30     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  monica869   Gender: F   Age: 26   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 12:58 AM     
In other words u are trying to say that we Africans should not communicate with the Whites?
OK it seems many people are having problems with Nigerians, so why cant u just bar the Nigerians rather than involving innocent people. Am from Africa but i dont have time on toubling people that they should send me money or whatsoever but all i do is making new freinds and in doing so we learn from each other.

Thanks waiting to hear from u.
No. 31     Reply: African members   
By:  Jacob699   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 1:42 AM     
Dear Administrator

Tes I agree with your opinions of Africans and my yahoo email get flooded at times with such african emails.

But ar the same time, there are also some very good Christian african members too and please do not block such members

My suggestion is thet you edit all emails coming in from african countries as well as instruct all present members to inform you if there are such kinds of "gold diggers"

Thanks and God bless you and all at Meet Christians. Com

jacon699
No. 32     Reply: User Agreement changes   
By:  Julian   Gender: M   Age: 65   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 1:55 AM     
Hello Randal

I agree that this action may be justified because of all the scammers. However I am in touch with two orphans -- one in Ghana and one in Ethiopia -- who contacted me through this website almost a year ago. I have got to know them very well and so I know they are not scammers. As I do not contribute to any organised charities, I am paying college fees for the girl in Ghana, and a small fee for working on my website to the girl in Ethiopia. Additionally the Pastor who collects the monies from me for the orphan in Ethiopia, has appointed two orphans to help build a new website which will be: thirdworldorphans.org

I am the only real friend in the world to the two girls first referred to. This has enriched my own life. Without MC these girls would never have contacted me and these mutually rewarding relationships would never have occurred.

I don't see any problem in leaving things as they are as the scammers are invariably too stupid to read the two-message rule and have their mail deleted almost immediately. I cannot see any point in leaving the profile in place after exchange of messages has been cancelled.

Julian
No. 33     Reply:  User Agreement changes   
By:  Julian   Gender: M   Age: 65   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 2:11 AM     
RobertoVO5 wrote:

While I appreciate your motives, your actions go too far. And yes, you are subjecting those who live in Africa to unfair treatment. Why not invoke the same policy to those who live in Russia and Ukraine? I know for a fact that there are thousands of women desperate to get out of those countries and will do anything, even misrepresent their feelings towards an unsuspecting American, just to get out. When they hook up with that poor sap, they stay married the obligatory amount of time, then high-tail it out of there for greener pastures elsewhere.



Russian and Ukrainian girls are notorious scammers. Legitimate matchmaking sites in those countries publish lists of known scammers. I was very nearly caught by one Russian girl who sounded so convincing. I found her listed on the scammer website under six different names. Another Russian girl with whom I communicated for some time may or may not have been a scammer, but I have reason to believe that she was sending generic emails to more than one man and just waiting for the best offer.

And they are known to go much further than what Roberto has said. Under Australian law once a woman has lived with a man for two years -- married or de facto it makes no difference -- they are entitled to half his property, so there have been cases where men have been forced out of their own homes.

The Russian and Ukrainian girls benefit from a good knowledge of English and sophistication in their emails. The African scammers can readily be spotted in their first email by saying such things as: "You are the man God meant for me. I am in love with you. I know we are meant to be together forever."
No. 34     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  CarrieB45946   Gender: F   Age: 46   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 2:19 AM     
Thank you. I appreciate this. It should stop alot of scams.
No. 35     Reply: User Agreement changes   
By:  Julian   Gender: M   Age: 65   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 2:24 AM     
monica869 wrote:

OK it seems many people are having problems with Nigerians, so why cant u just bar the Nigerians rather than involving innocent people.



"Nigerian scammer" is a generic term which has been around for decades -- by snail mail before the internet. It does not mean the person is from Nigeria. It is just the name that has been given to the particular type of scam which promises a huge sum of money, like $5,000,000

Most of the African scammers who come through this or any other website are living in horrendous conditions and are looking to escape from their situation.

I am in the position of knowing that some of these girls are looking for a genuine marriage relationship.

When I get my new website up and running, I will be highlighting the horrendous conditions in which some of these African girls live.
No. 36     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  dlm1130   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 2:36 AM     
What I find ironic is that I personally know no one in the US scammed by those from other countries, but I personally know several from other countries scammed by Americans.
No. 38     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Joseph1956246   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 6:18 AM     
It sounds fine to me.
No. 39     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Spitin-in-the-wind   Gender: M   Age: 66   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 6:18 AM     
What a pity the Administrator has come down to such actions such as baning Africans from the MC bus ride. This is paramount to the same thing as having them sit in the rear of the bus or eating in a separate area because so many of them are so poor, with some resort to desperation.

I'm sure we would be just as desperate if the shoe were on the other foot and thankfully even the poorest in this country is rich compared to many in Africa.

Don't misunderstand me, for I have reported a number of them who have sent me scam letters. Of course this is comparable to pick pocking our money while riding the MC bus with us. However due to the Administrator, {our bus-driver if you will] they now segregated and now have to all sit in the rear of the bus.

Africa for many generations has been through much bloody war, famine, pestilence and on a biblical scale.

I wouldn't at all be surprised God has Africa under judgment for its many false religions that sacrifice children and the murder of innocent people.

Also, I wouldn't at all be surprised there may be more born again people in Africa than here in the United States for we are a rich nation and insulated from much of poverty and stone age religions. It seems adverse conditions most often get our attention and then it much easier to fix it on the Lord as our last hope. This is my opinion and all are free of course to tell me I'm wrong or don't know what I'm going on about. LOL

When I was a young man and a worldly one and in sales for profit, I came across some of the most charismatic schemers in the world. One's that would make me embarrassed to share their deeds publicly. Please don't get me wrong, I'm no cream puff. I came to understand and know how the scammer's mind works and how they operate. You could say I'm very wise to the ways of the word in many areas and I can smell a scam a mile off. Bow, wow. LOL

I've worked with the homeless from the then nationally known Mitch Snider's homeless shelter on a daily basis placing the homeless on constructions jobs. The type I worked with were mostly wanted by the law and were laying low doing construction and getting paid on a daily basis. I was threatened almost daily to get a knife between the ribs. One survived by not giving into them or being scared of them or not showing it, for their was many times it was a little unnerving.

Anyway, I have heard it all and from my experiences here on the MC Bus that has seemed to have become segregated, most Africans I have come across on the forums are not the pick pockets and undesired.

As most know on here who frequent the forum where one can air their biblical views, or give a sermon, Most know that I condone religious organizations and their charitable works. I believe if I'm going to give money, it won't be to some organization that will only spend a small portion those in need, but rather the money will go to pay the salaries of those who preach for the money and many cases, pay for their rich living and fancy cars. While on the other hand, the more moderate religions such as the none-charismatic Protestants, who with their big money machines: still only a smaller portion is going to be used to help the poor.

When the Lord puts it on my heart to help people, it is because the Lord has personally convicted my heart to give away our money that we have here at home.

Presently we are giving money on a monthly basis to a brother and sister who went from no hope and despair in a Ghanaian refugee camp are both are going to school, their donated house from that of a Moslem's is now fixed up and the wind and rain don't go through it and the 8 year old boy is now going to his first year in school and is at the head of his class and he loves school. His sister is now going to nurse's school and they both have new cloths and eat well.

The boys life has been saved twice now from the money we have been sending. Once from pneumonia and just recently he almost died from malaria and both times in a hospital. If you can't pay you don't get treated even if your dying. The doctor at the hospital contributes his survival to having had his body strengthened with good food and fruits. When I first saw pictures of this boy he was so short and his belly sticking out from hunger. He was only eating once a week. Now he has grown taller and looks normal with no extended belly. His sister was selling ice water to eat and she was only eating once every two weeks. Their only food was rice. Their mother who was raped and beaten by Liberian rebels died only a few months before we met here on the MC bus before it became segregated.

It should be noted this young lady never once asked me for money or hinted at it. I had to drag the story out of her over a period of nine months and still I don't have it all yet as it is to painful or embarrassed to talk about it. These people are just as reluctant to discuss their poverty situation as many of us would in their shoes.

The Kid's uncle deserted the army in Liberia and walked with them all the way from the capital of Liberia to Budubudram refugee Camp. That walk was about an 800 mile walk by my estimate from the maps I've studied then the uncle vanished. They were there for over three years and were partially supported by their mother before she died from her experiences of gang rape and being beaten.

These refugee camps in Ghana are the worst hell holes on the planet. Open sewers running on the surface and even crossing the streets in camp. The kids have to bath twice a day so as not to get chewed on by a rat if you should have any food stuck to you. Rats run rampart there. Crime is ever a daily threat. These people have to pay for everything even water as nothing is free. No free schooling, no free food, no free toilet facilities. Those who use the bushes are subject to poison snakes, malaria, women and being rapes and killed when answering their call to nature. They do their home work at night by candle light.

When tribal kings die, the tribe would go to the cities and kidnap children for sacrifice; to be with the king in the next life. The kid has to be their so the king won't die alone.

Now the kidnappers go to the refugee camps for children as it is much easier pickings then going to the cities. These camps are made up with about 60% women and children and the rest men.

Most of these people are honest and desperate people who need a hand up and not a hand out.

I have verified for my own peace of mind all the above I have given here. If anyone is interested in the conditions in these camps, go to goggle and put in 'Budubudram Camp' and learn the poverty and degradation these people are going through, it will make you cry. What makes it worse, these refugees are not allowed to work, they can only work within the camp and have to pay the Ghanaian government $150 for a work permit at the camp.

The life expectancy there is only between forty and fifty years of age and that is for those who survive childhood, crime and malaria.

I realize not many on here could afford to pay a $100 a month to help some of them or am I asking anyone to. If the the Lord puts it on your heart to do so then by all means do so with a search engine and with prayer. Please don't any offer to help me or contact me in regards to this matter privately, as I would take that as against the rules on the MC Bus nor do I need anyone assistance.

My personal opinion is that the old system of reporting a scam was working fine.

By the way, the kids whom I have come to love as my own, went to their first interview to come to the States and to live here where they can be safe and have a real life. The girl who is a young woman who is just old enough to be my great grand daughter has a healthy interest in the Lord and we have wonderful fellowship at times on the Internet.

The Joy I have gotten from this experience and the love we have shared is beyond description. Perhaps I'm may be one of the few on this bus who has enjoyed the ride so well. Regardless of segregation, the Lord can work around that for those who are either His or will Be his, for he doesn't let His own go hungry long for bread whither it be physical or spiritual bread. He has promised to provide for His own. He practices what He preaches for He has said if we provide not for our own, we are worse than the infidel.

Gary



No. 40     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 7:24 AM     
Spitin-in-the-wind wrote:

What a pity the Administrator has come down to such actions such as baning Africans from the MC bus ride.

You debate here much like you debate in theo. Small wonder that discussions spiral into personal brawls instead of intellectual discourse on the issues in question.

With an opening like that, any time spent addressing your other points would likely make no impact.
No. 41     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 7:32 AM     
monica869 wrote:

In other words u are trying to say that we Africans should not communicate with the Whites?

People from Africa are forbidden from making initial contact with people of ANY race outside their own continent.

I knew before making the decision that various individuals would accuse me of racism. They already have when subjected to the new rule upon signing up, letting me know through emails to the webmaster. I am willing to endure the gossip and condemnation from those who wish to believe what they will and fail to comprehend what it might be like trying to keep a site like this operating with virtually zero income. I place my motives and the consequences at the feet of God. If wrong, He is invited to help me see the truth.
No. 42     Reply: Re: African members   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 7:40 AM     
Jacob699 wrote:

Dear Administrator

Tes I agree with your opinions of Africans and my yahoo email get flooded at times with such african emails.

But ar the same time, there are also some very good Christian african members too and please do not block such members

My suggestion is thet you edit all emails coming in from african countries as well as instruct all present members to inform you if there are such kinds of "gold diggers"

Thanks and God bless you and all at Meet Christians. Com

jacon699

It isn't just the gold-diggers. Please take a look at reply #20 above.

Aside from that, editing all email would require a massive amount of time, along with being an invasion of privacy.

Like mentioned previously, there is no perfect solution. What I do know is that no volunteer help and no contributions are offered from that part of the world.

Combining that side of the equation with the headaches for me and the hurt caused to others after getting their hopes built up by liars, plus the ones who are bothered to sign-in for email that is from another member in Africa wishing for whatever reason to tell a woman in America how much he likes her profile, it all leads me to settling for the option of hurting a few innocent members instead of so many.

Besides, just what is the big deal anyway? Have I stopped anyone from seeking a mate within his own country or even his own continent? Nooooooo. They are free to search and make contact throughout their homeland. Could someone please explain to me why anyone would wish to look thousands of miles away for a wife or husband, especially among groups that are far less likely to take the offer?
No. 43     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 7:43 AM     
Darrell wrote:

What I find ironic is that I personally know no one in the US scammed by those from other countries, but I personally know several from other countries scammed by Americans.

That is a strange figure you cite. I have personally blocked more than a thousand profiles from African scammers, and less than half a dozen of American scammers. Maybe you would like to take a peek behind the curtain at the blocked users page.
No. 44     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  SonShines   Gender: F   Age: 27   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 8:09 AM     
You know, at some point trust has to play a part here. Now, I'm not one to encourage blind following, but I do believe that the Administration here has proven to be trustworthy and shown integraty.

To ask for further clarification or to say one disagrees with the decision is one thing; but to suggest that this administration is somehow trying to descriminate based on personal feelings instead of an informed, hard choice... well I find that troubling.
No. 45     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  skimmer3   Gender: F   Age: 40   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 8:45 AM     
Thank you for the e mail. I have heard of the scams on Dr. Phil, so I was aware to not correspond with anyone that may fit that category.
No. 46     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  1Mexicalirose336   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 9:27 AM     
Dear Webmaster,

I think you are doing the right thing in not only advising us of this matter, but also of the dangers in these type of individuals that are trying to do things that are illegal.

Thank you for your concern not only of the site, but of your members. My hat off to you and your staff for taking a stand and doing what is right.

No. 47     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Dwight889   Gender: M   Age: 37   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 9:42 AM     
Well, I hope Bloom doesn't visit someone in South Africa and post on MC while she is visiting there.
No. 48     Reply: Re: Re: African members   
By:  Dwight889   Gender: M   Age: 37   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 9:54 AM     
Administrator wrote:
Could someone please explain to me why anyone would wish to look thousands of miles away for a wife or husband, especially among groups that are far less likely to take the offer?


No, because I don't understand it myself.

While I was looking for someone, I stated up front that I was not interested in a long distance relationship. Whenever someone emailed me who lived far away, I stated that I was not interested in a long distance relationship.

That being said, many people here are willing to consider a long distance relationship.
No. 49     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Kindad29   Gender: M   Age: 44   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 11:08 AM     
Administrator,

This is the most discouraging mail I've had to read in recent times. It is to say the least, very shocking to paint a whole continent black because of the actions of a few faceless individuals. I do not intend to make any argument(s) here for Africans, because I'm emotionally disjointed for such and might yield to the temptation of saying things a Christian should not say.

What I would say is this, think through your decision. Build checks within the system to take care of scammers instead of damaging the psyche of other innocent people. I've known this site since 1998 (or thereabout) and have made friends, contributed rich poetry into the forum. I have had to deal with the problem of scammers too, some sometimes writing from western nations, and Asia and have on two different occasions been scammed by people writing from the West and Asia (not on this site though). So scamming is not only an African thing. Africans did not create the word. What I would say on a final note is for you to sound out a warning ... giving signals which people should watch out for to avoid being scammed. I've learnt useful lessons and certainly do drill people before accepting them. The rule should be to avoid people that ask you for a favour. That is enough warning.

It is not good to treat other people with suspicion. That happens very often with people from the West. But am glad to say that I've made a lot of friends online (and we've been friends for years now) and they've come to acknowledge it's always good to handle people on case by case basis. I've never taken and will not take from them ... and if they want I give.

Please find a way around this your disclaimer, tone it down people like me feel its in a bad taste.

God bless you.
No. 50     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Shana   Gender: F   Age: 40   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 11:46 AM     
My, Mr. Administrator is taking some heat on the issue.

Someone wrote: "My personal opinion is that the old system of reporting a scam was working fine." Others have condemned the policy as being racist. etc. etc.

What you likely fail to see is the time, money and energy it takes behind the scenes to deal with spammers and scammers. And since it isn't YOU dealing with it on a daily basis, without compensation, unless and until YOU step up to deal with the scammers personally (with YOUR time, money and energy)...I believe the buck stops with Mr. Administrator.

Aaaaahhhhh, I believe this thread illustrates the dichotomy of ownership vs. free-loading quite well. It's pretty easy to complain loudly from the sidelines. A monthly fee of $20 to all users would solve the problem in an entirely different way. What say you all about that?

Adding one more thing: The continent of Africa is free to interact on the forums, right? And other non-Africa-continent-dwellers can be contacted through QM's and the boards by anyone of any continent, right? Really all the new policy is addressing is the volume of mail...



ok, carry on!
No. 51     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Humorpersistance   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 12:43 PM     
Well put, and an apparently necessary step.

Good. thanks.
No. 52     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  ron62449   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 2:09 PM     
That's great. But then there are those that use a US city of residence, but are actually African. IE: one who said she was from Eugene, OR, but was another scammer from Africa. Didn't take long to spot this!

Ron
No. 53     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  sunshine899   Gender: F   Age: 62   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 2:19 PM     
I think you are doing exactly the right thing if this is what you feel you need to do. The safety of members is very important.
No. 54     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Carl496   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 3:16 PM     
I agree with you! I was wise to their scams....Smile!
No. 55     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 3:43 PM     
Kindad29 wrote:

Administrator,

This is the most discouraging mail I've had to read in recent times. It is to say the least, very shocking to paint a whole continent black because of the actions of a few faceless individuals.

Sorry, yet if only a "few," we would never be enjoying this discussion. I have blocked more than a thousand profiles since taking over nearly a year ago, all while never receiving anywhere near enough donations on the site to even think about hiring someone to handle the daily maintenance. That isn't to say a lack of willingness to pitch in exists. Rather, the willingness is among maybe 4 percent of the membership, far too few to allow operating with optimum features and service. That leaves the brunt of operational chores taken care of by me and a couple volunteers, both of whom work full-time jobs elsewhere.


What I would say is this, think through your decision. Build checks within the system to take care of scammers instead of damaging the psyche of other innocent people.

Building changes requires money to pay for programming. We have none.


So scamming is not only an African thing.

The scamming from all countries combined outside of Africa fails to approach even 10 percent of what we endure from only Africa.


What I would say on a final note is for you to sound out a warning ... giving signals which people should watch out for to avoid being scammed.

Again, my decision is not based entirely on scamming. Part of it revolves around the aggressive writing campaign of people from down there who are perhaps honestly seeking to make connections with American women, mostly women. I have no intention of letting the site be known as one where people can expect to receive more letters from Africa than everywhere else.

There are PLENTY of scammers. But even the ones who are legitimately seeking to marry someone from America are simply going to need to do their searching somewhere else from now on. End of story.

You can still write to people from your own continent. I will go even one step further. Long-time members from Africa who wish to contact people living in America, people of their own gender, in the interest of making friends, may do so if the quantity of letters remains at a reasonable level.

Again, sorry for the drastic measures. But I am taking into account needs from a veritable periphery of considerations, including my own selfish desire to run a site that requires less work and keeps the majority of members happy with the service.
No. 56     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  kecbunny323   Gender: F   Age: 35   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 3:46 PM     
I am glad that they have been restricted because they are sending too many scam and spam emails that continuously crowd my email box. I think the decision to restrict them is excellent.
No. 57     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  crimsontouch   Gender: F   Age: 25   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 4:36 PM     
thank you for this secutity measure for those on this site. i have personally never experienced this particular problem but i feel better knowing that something is being done to protect everyone on the site. thank you again.

crimsontouch
No. 58     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  MiguelServetoConesa   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 4:54 PM     
Randall,and all,

Seems like a good step in the fight against the theives of the online dating communities.
No. 59     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  CyndeJoy435   Gender: F   Age: 48   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 5:07 PM     
So I can still write to my friend, just not new contacts
Correct?
No. 60     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Gee485   Gender: F   Age: 54   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 5:44 PM     
I feel saddened that this has had to happen.

BUT I feel this was not done lightly.

I can't know what your thoughts were but I'm making a guess it wasn't an easy choice.

I believe that it has been the right choice and you have done all you can to stress why this has had to happen. I feel it is good too that you have make certain allowances; such as those already in contact etc., or those choosing to contact members in Africa.

I appreciate all the hard work you put into this site.

Thanks and God bless you.

Gail


P.S. (to Julian!) Only $5,000,000! Golly! the ones I get are usually $150,000,000 +
No. 61     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Dodgeman47   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 6:05 PM     
Tom....... Thank you very much for this "user agreement". As I suppose with others, I have been scammed from women from Africa. It wasn't from this site however, but from "singlesnet.com" and from "lovehappens.com". I have gotten mumerous emails from women and in April (from a lady supposedly in Africa and from the website "singlesnet.com) was scammed out of $2000. So thank you for this. There was a lady that emailed me from this site that was supposed to be a missionary in Ethiopia. We emailed each other about once a week and she finally wanted to come to me. It would cost me from $500 to $1000 for me to get her a plane ticket. Since I was "scammed" previously, I elected not to do that and told her so. I told her to get to the USA and then I would get her here to me..... I have not hear from her since. her name is Rose Kloufus. Supposedly her and her family immigrated to Miami from Isreal. Thank you again.......

Jim Lane
No. 62     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  April387   Gender: F   Age: 24   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 6:41 PM     
THANK YOU
No. 63     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 6:56 PM     
CyndeJoy435 wrote:

So I can still write to my friend, just not new contacts
Correct?

Being from Texas (or anywhere other than Africa), you are entitled to write anyone living anywhere on Earth. It is only the members living in Africa who have a restriction on THEIR outgoing mail, and then only with regard to new contacts.
No. 64     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  uzziel   Gender: F   Age: 19   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 7:49 PM     
That was really sad for those people, some might African might not do it, thay are just dragged on the issue....

May God bless all His people in Africa, and i hope this rule would not make them feel discriminated. We all are the same
No. 65     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Kathie337   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 8:04 PM     
11/27/06

Very good..this just has to happen. There is way too much scamming going on on all dating sites originating from Africa. I was victimized myself on another site--Kathie f.
No. 66     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  cadillac_kid   Gender: M   Age: 37   on  Nov 28, 2006 at 9:26 PM     
i think your more likely to still have these issues having this notice up. cus people will just lie an say they are from other countries. usually the ones from africa are legit but then you get the nigerian (so quote scammers) that are totally facticious an not so likely to be where they are saying their from. found little of that out just askin them what the weather is like cus you can go to the net an find out if they are tellin the truth or not but a dead give away. simply just blocking someone that says they are from africa i dont think will do little good. another way i have caught few of them is when they say they are from some place in the usa then try to tell you due to some circumstance theya re trapped in africa and can't get home. i personal opinion about this so called thred, likely will not stop much of anyone from trying to use the site for a scam. but more effective get your users to pic these people off. or find some way of rewarding your users for catching these people. anyway thats been my experience on the subject..........carman
No. 67     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Harvest599   Gender: F   Age: 30   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 1:16 AM     
Shalloom....

Dear Administrator..thanks a lot for the announcement

I really appreciated it

God bless you all
No. 68     Reply: User Agreement changes   
By:  Julian   Gender: M   Age: 65   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 4:01 AM     
Spitin-in-the-wind wrote:

These refugee camps in Ghana are the worst hell holes on the planet. Open sewers running on the surface and even crossing the streets in camp. The kids have to bath twice a day so as not to get chewed on by a rat if you should have any food stuck to you. Rats run rampart there. Crime is ever a daily threat. These people have to pay for everything even water as nothing is free. No free schooling, no free food, no free toilet facilities. Those who use the bushes are subject to poison snakes, malaria, women and being rapes and killed when answering their call to nature. They do their home work at night by candle light.

Gary



One of the orphans I am assisting lives in Buduburum. I know about the conditions. The girl lost both her parents while fleeing from Liberia, and her brother died of illness early this year. I strongly agree with your idea of assisting a person directly rather than giving your money to a charitiable organisation. I know exactly where my money goes. Currently I am paying for her college fees.

Perhaps one or two of you might care to learn about Buduburum for yourselves:

http://www.pointhope.org/our_story.php

http://www.andycarvin.com/archives/2005/07/life_in_a_liber.html

http://www.users.on.net/~rmc/buduburam.htm

http://www.theperspective.org/2004/june/buduburamcamp.html

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/globalvoices/-/world/sub-saharan-africa/liberia

http://www.eastbayri.com/story/355370960599567.php
No. 69     Reply: User Agreement changes   
By:  Julian   Gender: M   Age: 65   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 4:52 AM     
For anyone who is not familiar with the particular type of scam known as "Nigerian Scam," I started a discussion at an IT website and you can read details of this type of scam here:

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-6230-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=203371&messageID=2115413

My identity at this website is "jardinier."

Note: Click on "Print this thread" in order to scroll through all the posts.
No. 70     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  anietie883   Gender: M   Age: 24   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 6:15 AM     
I think i buy the idea.But let sincere people not be affected by the decision.
No. 71     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 6:35 AM     
I forgot to add something:

The limitation on contacting people shall include the Quick Message system.

Anyone being sent Quick Messages from people living in Africa should copy and send any messages received to the Administrator.
No. 72     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Trueblue1225   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 6:56 AM     
Hi I totally agree. Maybe people in North America could only receive email from people outside of North America that they email first as I also get many offers from women from Asia and Europe.
Being a single dad , I could never afford the time and or money to meet someone outside of North America. I just want to say thanks for running this fine service. You and your service are a real blessing.
No. 73     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Obadiah   Gender: F   Age: 41   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 7:23 AM     
No. 74     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  john662   Gender: M   Age: 60   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 7:56 AM     
i am in full agreement with you on this brother
No. 75     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  ****GODBLESS****622   Gender: F   Age: 28   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 7:59 AM     
you rule... keep up thte good work..
No. 76     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  lords1   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 8:16 AM     
You're right to make this change.
I've had several 'Hi I want to be your friend' letters from Africans
who also said that they've read my profile and loved it...I don't have much on it. I'm well aware of Nigerian frauds especially, as we had one come to our church with great credentials and ripped us off for $1000.
God bless you & lead you in all that you do. Thanks.

-George
No. 77     Reply: Re: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  dlm1130   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 9:09 AM     
Administrator wrote:

Darrell wrote:

What I find ironic is that I personally know no one in the US scammed by those from other countries, but I personally know several from other countries scammed by Americans.

That is a strange figure you cite. I have personally blocked more than a thousand profiles from African scammers, and less than half a dozen of American scammers. Maybe you would like to take a peek behind the curtain at the blocked users page.



Was not meant as a criticism of your action. At what point does the responsibility of the website end? There are more than financial scam attempts. Scams of the heart are more rampant.

As I do on other sites, I ignore the scam attempts. I am thankful for a site that attempts to filter such out and give me less to ignore, but ultimately an individual needs to take responsibility for their own decisions and actions.

I am sure lots of scam attempts are made on many of us in the US. But it can go both ways. I am only pointing out that those I personally know that have been victims of Internet scam, have been those from other countries scammed by Americans. They were enticed to come to the US, bilked of their assets, and left stranded by the American.

I would think that being an American in America and active on sites such as this, the odds would be the other way around. But yet I know personally of no American that has been scammed. Only of those in other countries scammed by Americans.
No. 78     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Marilee738   Gender: F   Age: 36   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 9:21 AM     
I believe this is a good idea. There are too many scammers from Africa and one doesn't really know who is who.
No. 79     Reply: No Subject   
By:  truelife457   Gender: F   Age: 26   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 11:47 AM     


i am looking for a man to love a man
i will spend my life with.
if the lord said he will come from a far
plays or next to me i cant change it.

i know you are doing the best for those who
come to the site but i dont think all africans
are out for negative acts.
if throw this site i can be happy
then let me be

No. 80     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  friends428   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 12:00 PM     
I dont think u should have generalized on all Africans
This is rather unfair
I believe a memeber has the right to block any mail or correspondence that is offensive or he or she doesnt feel like replying
Dont treat Africans as if we are dirt
It is not fair
No. 81     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  ricci855   Gender: F   Age: 41   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 12:27 PM     
I agree the people from Africa were out of control and I really got tired of them constantly asking for money. Great change
No. 82     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Haim44   Gender: M   Age: 48   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 12:51 PM     
Hi

I think I understand your point (although English is not my mother tongue) I would like to give you my full support and agreement to this. (I have had a very bad experience with a lady on this site trying to get money out of me. But I think it was me who made the first contact. She was very "professional", using false pictures of her self and her identity. She is still on this site in a different profile with out any picture this time.) I think that what you are doing is totally in place although it may seem as a very drastic measure.

Thank you so much for this wonderfull web site and for all the work that you do.
May god bless you richly

Have a blessed day

Haim
No. 83     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  dan44   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 1:01 PM     
I agree with it. But I have never chatted with someone from africa on all my chat sites. anything saying it was from africa always has said my parents where killed and I need to transfer a large sum of money. I don't like to judge anybody. So if there are REAL people from africa that would want to be friends and talk let me know.
No. 84     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  thomaswb4242   Gender: M   Age: 42   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 2:04 PM     
its good to be safe this way
No. 85     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Lynne   Gender: F   Age: 24   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 5:49 PM     

No. 86     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Net_Evangelist   Gender: M   Age: 38   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 7:17 PM     
I agree with this policy 100%. Like you, I am sorry that you had to come to this. Ungrotunaltly there are many out there who are preying on the generosity of others. Keep up the good work. The Lord bless you and keep you.

H. D.
No. 87     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  sportyone_6464   Gender: F   Age: 41   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 8:02 PM     
No please we need to feel protected from scammers somewhere I am glad your doing this. Thanks
No. 88     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Catty532   Gender: F   Age: 41   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 9:33 PM     
i agree with the changes,
thanks
No. 89     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Cliffshepherd   Gender: M   Age: 34   on  Nov 29, 2006 at 10:28 PM     
I agree with you sir
No. 90     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  SweetRose4uhere24   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Nov 30, 2006 at 3:27 AM     

Thank you for your action...I was once once a victim of an african scammer on this site who pretends to live in washington DC was posting fake white man's picture. He claimed that his name was Cann Eric....

Well, anyway...he tried to asked me $1000.00 which ofcourse I told him I cannot afford...
I realiized he was african because of his accents!!
Well... again, thanks for taking action...

Rose
No. 91     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Liz994   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Nov 30, 2006 at 5:33 AM     
I think this is a wonderful way of stopping some of the scams.
Thank You,
Liz
WWJD
No. 92     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Classic_Ride   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 30, 2006 at 8:21 AM     
Good decision! Too bad it wasn't made earlier; but like they say.....Better late than never!
No. 93     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  ALAN92   Gender: M   Age: 40   on  Nov 30, 2006 at 8:32 AM     
i agree and have no problems with your decission
No. 94     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  peanuts1935325   Gender: F   Age: 70   on  Nov 30, 2006 at 9:40 AM     
I have received several types of these letters.....very complimentary, and then - the question or statement if made: I got a question or I am sick and no money to buy my medicine, or can't cash a check, can someone send you a money order and you can send me the money....

I have this to be so on this sight mostly, and glad will not be more.

No. 95     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Jill23   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Nov 30, 2006 at 10:05 AM     
Yippee! Thanks for being one of the first sites to acually care to take out the many scammers who take the innocent for all they have. I personally, have not been taken in, however, I have received e-mails of "questionable" content. Unfortunately, I know there are the few sincere people who are searching across the sea for partners, but the scammers really blow the opportunity for them.

Thank you and God Bless you,

Jill K
No. 96     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  rock26   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Nov 30, 2006 at 12:50 PM     
I agree with your decision it is very unfortunate that thereare peoplle like that that hurt the rest of those that would be nice I was personally used by some one that wanted to get into this country all she needed was a nice letter from me to show some one then she left. the letter didn't even have to be that personal or expecting when she came hear or any thing like that. just a casual friend ship writting each other that was all. and boom she disapeared. and it was on here i dont go arround telling on people I pray that they find God and change. love you brother Daniel
No. 97     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Chas782   Gender: M   Age: 46   on  Nov 30, 2006 at 12:54 PM     
I think that classifing everyone from africa as not allowed is not right in my eyes. There have got to be a few people that are not searching for money, etc.

thanks
No. 98     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  ChrisAndMichelle   Gender: F   Age: 24   on  Nov 30, 2006 at 2:02 PM     
thats a great idea!
No. 99     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Steve25   Gender: M   Age: 46   on  Nov 30, 2006 at 2:59 PM     
Amen!!!
No. 100     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  StevenKing   Gender: M   Age: 35   on  Nov 30, 2006 at 10:35 PM     
dear sir, amazing and fantastic decision. thank you.

steven.
No. 101     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  MarieJosee747   Gender: F   Age: 37   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 1:40 AM     
Hi,

I am from Mauritius,an Island in the Indian Ocean...Am I consider as African continent?
No. 102     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  geneth1   Gender: M   Age: 60   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 5:53 AM     
I understand, it must be more of a problem than I could imagine. Gene
No. 103     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Butterfly1727258   Gender: F   Age: 55   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 6:08 AM     
Thank you for being so diligent! I was a recipient of one of these letters!
No. 104     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Donna66   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 8:52 AM     
I totally agree with this decision
No. 105     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Eric538   Gender: M   Age: 24   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 8:57 AM     
THIS IS UNFAIR. WHY?
No. 106     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Rebecky   Gender: F   Age: 44   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 9:19 AM     
I feel for the position you have been put in and I Pray no one feels offended.
God Bless and Thank you for all you Do.
Rebecca
No. 107     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  mary66   Gender: F   Age: 26   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 9:44 AM     
i am in so glad with that information u passed across.that is what we i praying for.to eradicate all this scamma on this site.thanks for passing the message across.pls i want scan my picture but i dont know how to do it.pls can u send me how to do it.thanks.
No. 108     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  HisEndlessLove7   Gender: F   Age: 48   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 12:57 PM     
Dear Webmaster,

Thank you so very much for being such a caring administrator by going to the trouble of doing your utmost to keep this site safe for all the members who use it.

May God continue to bless you abundantly,

Lorraine
No. 112     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  JimWest   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 3:17 PM     
Shana wrote:

A monthly fee of $20 to all users would solve the problem in an entirely different way. What say you all about that?


Shana,

The fee may cut down on it, but it will not eliminate it. I am on a few sites, some as paid, and they all have this problem as well. One site is very aggressive at smoking out scammers and publishes the fake profiles and photos. However, it takes those people a lot of their time, and that site is largely a pay site. They also provide explanantions and tips for the honest people to help them detect the frauds. They have also let us know that some scammers may lead you on for weeks, maybe even months, before dropping the "need money" bombshells.

One poor guy gave $1,000 in $100 increments to a girl who professed love for him, agreeing to marry him. Once the meeting to formalize marriage plans arose, she vanished. He was left $1,000 poorer and heartbroken. She then popped up with new profiles. I've seen that myself, I've caught some scammers lying and creating multiple profiles, with new handles/names, and locations, among other things. I do not want to tell what key mistakes they made that enabled me to discover them, in case those types of people are reading these forums, which I'm sure some of them do. There are also other ways of detecting them, which takes more expertise.

In recent weeks, I have encountered a few fakes - they get easier to spot with experience, but they vary their approaches, so one must be careful. Regarding ppl who are saying "why look for women so far away" - that is not usually the case. Almost all of these scammers purport to be from somewhere in the USA, maybe the UK, but they are actually in Nigeria, Ghana, or whatever.

Jim
No. 113     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  ChristMan637   Gender: M   Age: 32   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 3:36 PM     
It is unfortunate that a so-called christian website can place a blanket criticism on a whole continent of Africa, simply because some members are receiving scams or spams or whatever they are called,from a small group of deranged people, thereby hindering people who have good intention on using this site achieveing their good purpose.
We all know that this is a subtle act of RACISM. The greatest number of spams or scams on internet originated from the United States, where one is asked to purchase things that are useless or fake universities selling certificates to gullible people all over the world, including a terrorist, as reported by CNN.Or what do you think of noted scammers from the Philipines and China?
This policy of restricting Africans should be scrapped or else this site will be PUBLICLY labelled a RACIST SITE. If anyone receives a scam email, as we all get spams from USA, you just delete it and forget about it.
This is my position on this issue.
No. 114     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Ken794   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 9:19 PM     
Thank you. I have received several messages from Africa, but probably more from the Philipines.
No. 115     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  JoveyTeena   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 11:13 PM     
This is a very good step..i do not find it drastic as even my regular email had been bombarded with several attempts of scams from Africa that even made me think they are all Billionaires and that they can be very good in tracking down Christians to fool..Actually, one of our pastors almost gave in in sending an African scammer a borrowed amount of US$500 in exchange to a position promised him....I had spent three days cleaning up my email of scam letters...forwarding them to an african email which claimed they are tracking down scammers...then forwarding them to yahoo spam section...it maybe a waste of time, but actions such as these can save soft-hearted Christians.......

Thank you and God bless you for this site.....
No. 116     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  JoveyTeena   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Dec 1, 2006 at 11:26 PM     
Ken794 wrote:

Thank you. I have received several messages from Africa, but probably more from the Philipines.


Ken, are you sure you got scammers from teh Philippines?...we are a country of peace lovers....and internet novice noit experts....However, if it is true, I apologize for my countrymen..please keep praying for our nation.....

Christians will not do that....though several of us come from very poor situaions, I had been in a situation when my two long-time internet friends learned of my ailing daughter and they called me and sent me some help...I lost my daughter due to doctors' errors...this can be verified in the hospital (tho' I am sure they altered some of their records to save their names, but they have on record that my daughter died in their ICU ward in Dec 4, 2004).....i am sure, there is no intention of scamming....
Again, please pray for our nation and our women....some were even reported abused by their white husbands...but it happens everywhere...we can not point a country intentionally does a thing unless proven ..which i think was the case of Nigerian scammers...
No. 117     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  martingregoire322   Gender: M   Age: 37   on  Dec 2, 2006 at 12:46 AM     
i'think that you have to make a basic account where you may viewed those people who cause abusives use and violate the agreement of the site.
i for example seek gospel partner and share some spiritual experiences.
No. 118     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Almond735   Gender: F   Age: 40   on  Dec 2, 2006 at 4:28 AM     
The change is appreciated
No. 119     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  norman459   Gender: M   Age: 30   on  Dec 2, 2006 at 4:49 AM     
Dear Administrator,
In response to your letter to all members in MC I would like to my express my concern that,I have a different perception of what you meant.Inspite of all complains your office received I feel there could have been a better option to the decision made by your office because I don't think all Africans have the same kind of intention. Am sorry to express my perception about the decision made that way whether am right or wrong. In all things I always believe there is a better way of solving problems. As christians we are meant to be builders of the body of Christ rather than people who are subject to tearing it apart. I believe many people are members in this site not because they want partners but because its a genuin christian site where people share thoughts,ideas,concerns,joy,pain,encouragements and alot more. It is unfortunate that there are many people around the world over who might have there own reasons for joining this site. I pray that your office will take a keen look at my concern.
Thanks so much, long live MC.
God bless.
Norman-Uganda.
No. 120     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  gershon587   Gender: M   Age: 46   on  Dec 2, 2006 at 5:02 AM     
Hi,
I have already told you my point but you will not understand why i still write to people in the states.I have been in your website almost 10 months now.If i should have shown any bad character to anyone,up there you can tell me whom i did that to.I continue to remain sincere for many months now.Even though,i dont support Africans who uses that to beg for money and do all kinds of bad things to the other people.But if that is what you are saying and will not allow me to write to other persons in other continent,then is better you delete my profile,my pictures immediately so that i can go and join other christians websites which allows every race to write to everyone he/she wanted to write to.Because i have already told you that it was through my pastor,REv.G.W.Bessettes of Yougtown Az i got to know christ.I happened to be in the states for almost one year.I can't go without Americans.So please this is my matter.Thank you and do enjoy your day.Pleasant goodafternoon to you.
Gershon.
No. 121     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  GentleWarrior   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Dec 2, 2006 at 6:08 AM     
I think this is a good action however regretable it may be. Thank you for taking action
David
No. 122     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Dec 2, 2006 at 6:45 AM     
Allow me to again clarify the reasons for this action. Post #20 listed them already. There are more than one. Please take into account all of them. Combined, they fueled the change in policy:


1. Scammers, the obvious consideration, the one everyone reading figured out right away. Expanding that area due to recent comments, I will report there have been thus far ZERO scammers from the Philippines reported or seen having asked for money. I have deleted a couple profiles from the Philippines just for being suspicious though. That compares to nearly a thousand from Africa for suspicious and rule violating actions. Russia is 1/100th the problem of Africa. If the problem in Russia were to become outrageous like Africa, that nation would go on the unwanted list also.

2. I have yet to figure out why people are seeking brides and husbands THOUSANDS of miles away from home in a place they probably have never been and may not be able to afford plane fare to visit. My suspicion is they are hoping to become American citizens by finding a foreign mate. That is your business. But I am not going to run a website that facilitates the process. There are women and men available in Africa, along with many surrounding nations. Why the big deal about contacting people in America??? No one has offered me the explanation yet.

3. Most of the people on this website are from North America. Look at their responses above, or ask them directly. They DO NOT WANT to be contacted by potential mates from Africa, and probably from any foreign country aside from maybe Canada because it is so close. So it isn't just me.

For those saying the action is racist, try to observe above where even people of the predominant African race are applauding the decision. They are sick of all the letters. I am sick of all the letters. EVEN THE LEGITIMATE Africans seeking brides thousands of miles away for whatever reason have become annoying in their aggressive techniques. Before I installed per day limits on email, they would often send 50-100 each day.

4. My time. Time is required sifting through the spam reports, then trying to decide which warrant being banned from the site. I believe that several of the regular members from Africa may in fact be also creating fake profiles (as their service providers match up, along with many of their profile particulars). It all ends up requiring a warehouse of time and energy devoted to solving one large problem when a very small action can eliminate the entire thing.

5. Lonely members. Some of them receive very few letters of inquiry. Plenty have reported to me the only mail they got while here came from Africa. They report that to me upon LEAVING the website. It is bad enough to receive no mail. It is worse taking the trouble of signing in only to discover that another letter from some African man (or woman), 10-20 years younger maybe, is all that sits in that mailbox. Trust me, I know this from personal experience.

I refuse to allow members to be hurt so African men can get American citizenship. Too bad if they don't like it. Find some other way. I am far more worried about the feelings of people who want companionship. They have no external motives of also trying to relocate to another part of the world.

6. A business decision. It is just plain good business to offer what the members desire. Failure to provide what people are looking for in a service will mean they are more likely to seek places where the management does get it.

7. There are some who claim to only be looking for penpals. Well, first of all, that would be more acceptable were it not for the large number of letters people have endured over the years. It's kind of too late. Additionally, almost none of them ever enter the forums where penpals and potential friends are easily found. Conversation aplenty exists there. And once being noticed, members could end up contacting you to express support for something you mentioned. Their choice to ignore the brilliant opportunity available by using the forum option leaves me wondering about any claims to be merely in search of conversation.

Moreover, if only penpals are wanted, they can be just as easily found in a Yahoo chat room. No need to be writing numerous strangers on a site that at its core is designed for matchmaking, albeit while welcoming those who seek friendship only. After a year of working behind the scenes to keep all the gears turning, I really have very little trust left for the claims of desired friendship abroad anyway.

8. Finally, just like most of the members in America are looking for wives or husbands IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY, no one from Africa is being prevented from seeking friendship and love in his or her own country. So there really is very little to complain about for those who are essentially doing what most of the members here do, contacting people near home. Is that understood? No restrictions whatsoever on contacting people in any of the numerous countries on the African continent. If there are too few members on this website near home, then I suggest signing up for one where the condition is reversed.

In either case, bear in mind an exception to the rule. If you find a compelling reason to contact someone from outside the area, I pledge to be receptive to hearing the reason, provided they are infrequent. That means if you have a dream about some girl or feel led to make a connection for other profound reasons, I might introduce you personally or allow a rare exception, provided that we discuss the matter first.


So, I have read the arguments for and against the change. I thank you for the comments. You are welcome to continue submitting them. For now, the decision remains. I hope the reasons for reaching this point are more clear or at least more visible now.

No. 123     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Kathy86   Gender: F   Age: 56   on  Dec 2, 2006 at 7:45 AM     
Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Kathy
No. 124     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Kathy86   Gender: F   Age: 56   on  Dec 2, 2006 at 8:00 AM     
One more thing after reading some of the comments. I was contacted by MANY people from that country and the profiles were obviously dishonest. The man might say he was 79 and post a photo of someone obviously in his 30's. I reported these profiles continuously. Just at a glance you could tell these profiles were not accurate. This isn't about racism, but about honesty.

You did what you had to do to protect us and I, for one, appreciate it.

Kathy
No. 125     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  tobago250638   Gender: M   Age: 56   on  Dec 2, 2006 at 6:51 PM     
I completely agree with your policy, especially since a coworker of mine who is an Amercan citizen born in Africa corresponded by email with a young African women who sent him "alluring" photos vai enmail.

He was serarching for friendship and a possible romance leading to marriage, since he is a Christian. Months later, the young lady's true motivations were revealed when she asked him to send her money for her "needs," including her desires to enter the U.S. to become a citizen and to enjoy the proverbial "Land of Opportunity"!

A "scam" and a "congame" are just what they are and happen in all countries. Unfortunately, many are being conducted from African countries there days.

"Tobago" (Username)
No. 126     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  wonderman1797   Gender: M   Age: 34   on  Dec 2, 2006 at 8:48 PM     
sounds good i have been a victim of the scammers in africia
No. 127     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  niteowl34   Gender: M   Age: 48   on  Dec 2, 2006 at 11:53 PM     
No argument here. There is a problem with women on this site trying to dupe men and I guess it is the other way around. I've been corresponding with a nice young lady from Africa. And I'm sure there are others like her out there.
No. 128     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  candlemagik92   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Dec 3, 2006 at 11:49 AM     
every one has the right to be and look for a new life with a nother person i would be glad to meet some one from a nother country
No. 129     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  gerard957   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Dec 3, 2006 at 6:16 PM     
Good. Thanks.
Gerard
No. 130     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  jay25   Gender: M   Age: 24   on  Dec 3, 2006 at 6:33 PM     
You rock admin. Glad you're keeping an eye on those things. Keep up the good work
No. 131     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  shakeel732   Gender: M   Age: 19   on  Dec 3, 2006 at 11:18 PM     
God loves us ,and want to give us best life Patner, May lord bless you and trust on him Amen
No. 132     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  WisconsinWoman   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Dec 4, 2006 at 12:22 AM     
Whoops, put a note in the wrong place...sorry
No. 130     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Anastasis58   Gender: M   Age: 53   on  Dec 4, 2006 at 6:08 AM     
Shalom

I am disappointed in your new policy.

I shall rather remove my profile than be insulted like this where you lump all africans together.

I am a south African.

No. 131     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  mrperfect   Gender: M   Age: 26   on  Dec 4, 2006 at 7:01 AM     
Just wanna know if I will not be able to contact anyone in Europe or orther part of the world except Africa, or are you trying to say that I Should not send scam email, I really wanna be sure to know if I should delete my account or continue.

Thanks for your Time.

Your sincerely
Andrew (Mr. Perfect).
No. 132     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Douglas92   Gender: M   Age: 48   on  Dec 4, 2006 at 9:09 AM     
Right on!!
No. 133     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  avbadboy945   Gender: M   Age: 47   on  Dec 4, 2006 at 9:46 AM     
Thank You and I support your decision 100%
No. 134     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Jim939   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Dec 4, 2006 at 3:14 PM     
Thank you.
It was getting annoying to get those messages!
No. 135     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Dec 4, 2006 at 6:01 PM     
mrperfect wrote:

Just wanna know if I will not be able to contact anyone in Europe or orther part of the world except Africa, or are you trying to say that I Should not send scam email, I really wanna be sure to know if I should delete my account or continue.

Thanks for your Time.

Your sincerely
Andrew (Mr. Perfect).

As a resident of Africa, you may no longer write any type of letters to other members outside of your own continent unless they write to you first. Sorry.
No. 136     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Dennis424   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Dec 4, 2006 at 6:46 PM     
Very good move!
No. 137     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Bongosweetgirl   Gender: F   Age: 45   on  Dec 4, 2006 at 7:18 PM     
I agree with the decision you have made regarding the Africian restrictions. I believe you have excercised the wisdom of God in that decision. God Bless you!
No. 138     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  angelic_sound2228   Gender: F   Age: 35   on  Dec 5, 2006 at 3:07 AM     
It's a wise step of prevention.... This site should be for Christians as the name suggested....
No. 139     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Hero   Gender: M   Age: 28   on  Dec 5, 2006 at 5:08 AM     
It is a shame that the continet of Africa and all Africans are seen and treated like scammers because of some group of Africans.

Well, in any twelve there is always a Judas.

The steps taking to cut down the rate in which scammers use this site might be a nice one but when analyzed it is not fair that a blessed continet as Africa can be seen by the Western World as bad as a garbage.

I don't just know what to say but I am proud to be an African and most particularly a Nigerian.
No. 140     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  monday344   Gender: M   Age: 33   on  Dec 5, 2006 at 6:23 AM     
Hi,i totally agree with the changes!i am an african and do live here in african but believe it or not i also get such unbelieveable letters either asking me to contribute to one project or the other or help to procure an item in another african country!
Ride on sir!
No. 141     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  sumy   Gender: M   Age: 28   on  Dec 5, 2006 at 7:57 AM     
god bless you for real
No. 142     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  hizo758   Gender: F   Age: 23   on  Dec 5, 2006 at 8:29 AM     
its not fair at all because innocent people are suffering and may be they need friends and not money or love,please something must be done
No. 143     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  MJ84   Gender: M   Age: 42   on  Dec 5, 2006 at 12:40 PM     
An excellent idea !! Thank you for looking after us !!
No. 144     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  bkabe77   Gender: F   Age: 33   on  Dec 5, 2006 at 6:37 PM     
I think that you are justified in making what one might see as "a harsh" rule. I see that keeping this community of people safe is most important to you and for that I thank you. Good work!
No. 145     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  listenandhear   Gender: F   Age: 49   on  Dec 5, 2006 at 8:09 PM     
Thank you. God bless!
No. 146     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Marisa   Gender: F   Age: 28   on  Dec 5, 2006 at 8:28 PM     
hizo758 wrote:

its not fair at all because innocent people are suffering and may be they need friends and not money or love,please something must be done


It's unfortunate that all in Africa must suffer since I think we all understand that it is not everyone in Africa, but it is too many for a small website to handle. Based on this being a free website, sometimes choices need to be made. Those who need friends are still definitely able to make friends anywhere in Africa.
No. 147     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  jamne143   Gender: F   Age: 25   on  Dec 5, 2006 at 10:20 PM     
tnx for this site to meet new friends here and across the miles for friends are treasures.this site jst makes the world so small

keep up the good work.God bless yah
No. 148     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Hero   Gender: M   Age: 28   on  Dec 6, 2006 at 6:23 AM     
monday344 wrote:

Hi,i totally agree with the changes!i am an african and do live here in african but believe it or not i also get such unbelieveable letters either asking me to contribute to one project or the other or help to procure an item in another african country!
Ride on sir!


What makes you think that it is only Africans that are scammers? It is a shame that an African is saying what you just said. I want you to know that the highest scam mails come from Asia and America but Africans are been seen as most scammers here . I don't blame any body but blame those Africans whose intention is to bring down the integrity of Africans
No. 149     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Saintcursed   Gender: M   Age: 30   on  Dec 6, 2006 at 8:21 AM     
Hi. This sites alright. I guess
No. 151     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Melodious83   Gender: F   Age: 32   on  Dec 6, 2006 at 2:16 PM     
Good idea. I agree.
No. 152     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  walee   Gender: M   Age: 29   on  Dec 7, 2006 at 4:26 AM     
Once again, Africa takes centre stage and as always for the wrong reasons. It is really unfortunate and once again, it is the innocent that pays the price. Any measure aimed at ending this trend is welcome as far as I'm concerned because as an African student in The Netherlands, I am also a victim of any atrocities committed by these people.
No. 153     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  love2lovejesu   Gender: M   Age: 26   on  Dec 7, 2006 at 9:25 AM     
africa , my africa...is it ur fault that u are africa.
is it my fault that i'm made black ?
oh poor africa...africa...my beloved africa...
oh my dear, why me why i'm so ignored...
oh my africa...even u try for the world to feel u...
but no they seal u and abandon u, fearing u like...
u the monster, the devil, hated,despised...
oh yes, some of u are cruel, uncaring, untruthful...
oh yes, some of u are unloving, angry, feeling unwanted...
oh yet, some of u are nice, lively, loving, caring....
oh yet, some of u are Godly, seeing all mankind as brothers by one...
but why, aren't these all men, made ,fashioned in 'His'Own Image...
oh man, man, white, pink, red, yellow, brown...black...
oh man, man...angry with the other for he's not...
...white, pink, red, yellow, brown...black...
but no, the sun shines so bright in the sky...
......, the moon lights lovely on our nights...
and it's raining here, it's sunny there..it's chilly where...
all in the one plane'...one earth...one eternity...one God...
...shall i be pardoned...for being black...PLEASE !!!
No. 154     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  novadoll4   Gender: F   Age: 34   on  Dec 7, 2006 at 12:16 PM     
I like the change!
No. 155     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  northstate_girl989   Gender: F   Age: 55   on  Dec 7, 2006 at 3:20 PM     
Thank you, I am so glad to see you taking a step like this.. So many scammers from there..
No. 156     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  DRM59   Gender: M   Age: 48   on  Dec 7, 2006 at 5:34 PM     
THANK_YOU! Merry CHRISTmas.DM.
No. 157     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  byfar34   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Dec 7, 2006 at 11:05 PM     

Greetings,
I have read this notice and understand.....Thank you.

Enjoy,
Byfar34
No. 158     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Suzy361   Gender: F   Age: 54   on  Dec 8, 2006 at 3:00 PM     
Thank you!!! I have personally had 4 letters from scammers in Africa. It's unfortunate to see it get this far but I'm definately for this. Thanks again,
Suzy
No. 159     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  rose_sharon04995   Gender: F   Age: 37   on  Dec 9, 2006 at 3:21 AM     
thank you so much for that agreement
No. 160     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Crash24   Gender: M   Age: 62   on  Dec 9, 2006 at 6:11 AM     
Thank you!!
No. 161     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Shaul263   Gender: M   Age: 47   on  Dec 9, 2006 at 6:56 PM     
I totally agree with your new policy regarding African scammers!
No. 162     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  personablemissy   Gender: F   Age: 41   on  Dec 9, 2006 at 11:21 PM     
I totally agree with this action although very surprised by it only becuase I've made complaints on other sites about this very thing, having been scammed myself from someone there, and no action was taken, so I am VERY happy to see that something is finally being done about it.

Kindest regards,
Wanda Normann

No. 163     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Hill_Raju   Gender: M   Age: 44   on  Dec 10, 2006 at 4:17 AM     
I appreciate this new restrictions regarding scammers. I feel it is neccessary just for precaution sake
No. 164     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  ana432   Gender: F   Age: 56   on  Dec 10, 2006 at 10:47 PM     
I am just visiting in this site. I am sorry for those Africans who are sincere and honest. I know you are just protecting memebers of this site. I understan .
No. 165     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  SILAS958   Gender: M   Age: 30   on  Dec 11, 2006 at 1:51 AM     
i no more recieve e-mails from people and dont find them anymore in chart
No. 166     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  SILAS958   Gender: M   Age: 30   on  Dec 11, 2006 at 1:54 AM     
i only wana know if the chat does not exist anymore
No. 166     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  seguny   Gender: M   Age: 32   on  Dec 11, 2006 at 6:05 AM     
Hi Administrator,

It is quite unfortunately that this is being charged to Africa. I am an African and a Nigerian to be precise. I have have personally received tens of such emails from Russia, but since I am not interested in the "Get rich Quick" of a thing, i did not borther.

I think what everyone should know is that there are more of such in other coutinents other than Africa. I was reading through the papers on the net a couple of days ago and it was reported that a chap had been dating his mum for sometime on the web. Unfortunately, they were not Africans.

what i think we should do here is no promote Christ and nothing more. Christ is greater than any individual or Continent.

God Bless MC.
No. 167     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  ebauertype882   Gender: F   Age: 47   on  Dec 11, 2006 at 7:38 AM     
I am very glad you did this.
I got too many from Africa and I could tell they were lying which ticked me off.
GOOD FOR YOU FOR using your head and not bowing to Politcal correctness.
No. 168     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Cosmas498   Gender: M   Age: 36   on  Dec 11, 2006 at 9:19 AM     
Dear sir,
Calvary greetings in Jesus name.I strongly agree with you.Because some fraudlents ones have really bastardised every thing that is good.Esp. from my country Nigria.But, the most painful aspect of it that the sincer and God fearing ones are often paying the price of the wicked.Upon that, there is a tremendous move of God,s Spirt in this country.In all let the real ones be spared from the eveil of the few bad ones.
Remain lifted in Him,
Evang.Cosmas Patrick.
No. 169     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  GodsWay1st   Gender: F   Age: 58   on  Dec 11, 2006 at 10:15 AM     
That is FANTASTIC....... Nigeria is so full of these scammers it is crazy!
Thank you

thank you for your hard work

HisWay1st
No. 170     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Rich   Gender: M   Age: 45   on  Dec 11, 2006 at 10:27 AM     
Dear Administrator,

It is a pity that that you have to do this. I want to say that I am an African Christian and have made good friends here.We are not all bad and lumping the innocent with the guilty is quite unchristian. I think you should identify the real culprits and deal with them accordingly. I wonder why Africans are always singled out like this and humiliated. If you want all Africans off this site, then say so. A friend of mine was removed from your site for no reason at all.

Remember God is not going to judge us as Africans, Indians or Americans. We are just human beings. He will punish the wicked.

Rich

No. 171     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  camper33   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Dec 11, 2006 at 2:11 PM     
THANK YOU !!!
No. 172     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  reggieG2002   Gender: F   Age: 21   on  Dec 11, 2006 at 2:39 PM     
I've received some pretty wild emails in the past, but not recently (as I have not been on in a while).
No. 173     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  tlandrum   Gender: M   Age: 31   on  Dec 11, 2006 at 7:09 PM     
Thank you
No. 174     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  forgetmenot983   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Dec 12, 2006 at 1:02 AM     
That is also the way that I would handle the problem. Nice going, Administrator.
No. 175     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  wayne42   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Dec 12, 2006 at 5:44 PM     
Thank you very much for your change in the policy. I am glad someone is taking notice to our requests. I also give my thanks to the members who had the courage and took the time to report the scam attempts.

Sincerely,

Wayne 42
No. 176     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Michael784   Gender: M   Age: 47   on  Dec 12, 2006 at 5:47 PM     
Hallelujah
High time we try and block African 419 men and women from internet sites.
I have had few trying to scam me on this site, as well as Russian women.
They are full of lies, deceit and are just fishing to scam money from anyone that will trust them.
thx
Mike
No. 177     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  movinon57   Gender: F   Age: 48   on  Dec 13, 2006 at 12:51 AM     
I've been approached by Africans for money many, many times. I'm in agreement with you on this one.
No. 178     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Hepher   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Dec 13, 2006 at 9:17 AM     
Very good idea, and long overdue. I personally get scam attempts from African countries through my web site on average on a month. After 10 years of it, they are getting me sick! All with pseudo-Christian bias.

Good for you, and hold firm!

Derrick
No. 179     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  mtlwoman937   Gender: F   Age: 49   on  Dec 13, 2006 at 11:13 AM     
I agree too many scammers
No. 180     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  iamdestined4u2   Gender: F   Age: 44   on  Dec 13, 2006 at 2:29 PM     
good going
No. 181     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  kiwi445   Gender: F   Age: 58   on  Dec 14, 2006 at 4:11 AM     
Great idea
No. 182     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  sonsray46   Gender: F   Age: 57   on  Dec 14, 2006 at 9:03 AM     
I just wanted to say thank you for the new rule. I have many times received the type of mail you refer to from Africa and often email from men younger than my son by several years. Obviously these men are not writing out of a romantic reason.
I understand your position entirely. Sometimes drastic steps have to be taken.
In Christ,
Roma (Sonsray46)
No. 183     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Amed6969   Gender: M   Age: 47   on  Dec 14, 2006 at 12:49 PM     
Hello dear,
You have to find out what country has the most scammers in Africa and delete their membership, I'm Libyan ( from Africa) and I've the same problems with them.
The only thing I could do is to ignore them. your decision isn't fair, however you can educate people about them instead. You have to accept people the way they are not the way you want them to be. It's always war between bad and good, and if you give up now you lose the war.
Best regards.
No. 184     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  lakson68   Gender: M   Age: 43   on  Dec 15, 2006 at 4:37 AM     
Of course i read your new policy toward Africans member of this organisation and i understood your feeling toward them. I did support your decision becos when you decided to create this webside for the first time you had the purpose and desire hence if certain groups of people seize the opportunity and did not realise the purpose of this organisation then you have right to take any step to control the bad behavious of those who didn't realised your good work. I am fully back your new policy. May almighty Father in heaven bless you.
No. 185     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  jamescarr49   Gender: M   Age: 63   on  Dec 15, 2006 at 5:34 AM     
I am satisfied with the status quo. And I am happy that you have restricted the emails in some locations on the World map.

Thanks again for your professionalism,

James Carr of Detroit Michigan
No. 186     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  ManofGrace583   Gender: M   Age: 47   on  Dec 15, 2006 at 6:25 AM     
Way to go!!!
No. 187     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  CODYHAAK   Gender: F   Age: 58   on  Dec 15, 2006 at 8:44 PM     
I THINK THIS CHANGE IS LONG OVERDUE. MOST OF THE EMAILS I HAVE RECEIVED HAVE BEEN FROM NIGERIA.
No. 188     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Kevin28   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Dec 16, 2006 at 6:48 AM     
i do agree with you on your decision but i will tell you there have been just a many women from Russia that are using these sites as well ,i know i have been scam by a russian women out of 3200.00 hundred dollars and have run into more that i have coressponded with the women that scammed me i have seen her using your site here to but you did delete her mail on her ,i still have pics of her if you want them so you can keep a eye out for her.So you should think about doing the same with the russian women as you have done to the African women ,i do know western union will not send money to russia anymore because of all the scamming going on with the Russian women are doing.
No. 189     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  pawneegirl7   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Dec 16, 2006 at 9:44 AM     
I see why you had to do this. I have had this kind of spam on several single sites. Guys way younger. They are only after money or a way to get into the USA. It's very annoying. Blessings! Ruby
No. 190     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Trebor490   Gender: M   Age: 30   on  Dec 17, 2006 at 9:04 AM     
Good job and THANKS!
No. 191     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Amy946   Gender: F   Age: 32   on  Dec 17, 2006 at 12:38 PM     
I appreciate the new rule as I have received numerous messages from Africa even after stating in my profile that I'm not interested in an overseas relationship.
No. 192     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  robbonz622   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Dec 18, 2006 at 12:14 AM     
I totally understand and support this policy having had a problem of the type you describe.

However the language is very complicated and will not be clear to those who do not speak English fluently.

Can it be spelt out more simply so there is no shadow of doubt and people will be quite clear on the rules, there will be no misunderstandings and it will eliminate the risk of people being penalised without understanding why, or claiming that this is the case when it may not be.
No. 193     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  jeunie288   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Dec 19, 2006 at 9:36 AM     
Smooth move..... trying to get rid of the scammers is the right thing to do...thank you, Junie T.
No. 194     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Linda59   Gender: F   Age: 54   on  Dec 19, 2006 at 10:10 AM     
I really appreciate this! I have tended to stop using the sites because of all of the scammers who pretend to be Americans. Thank you.

Blessings,
Linda
No. 195     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  godpleezer668   Gender: M   Age: 47   on  Dec 19, 2006 at 11:20 AM     
thanks.... i have received many african scammers on different webmail addresses...glad someone finally stood up to these jerks. and no need to sugar coat- adhere to politically correctness in your webmaster message, ...we all know they are incapable of honesty, integrity or human decency!
No. 196     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Nancie438   Gender: F   Age: 54   on  Dec 22, 2006 at 8:24 AM     
I too am sorry that bad apples have ruined it for the good people. I do communicate with a man in africa who is here from the us and is doing mission work. We do have options at Yahoo. It seems like most of the sites are experiencing this deluge of dishonesty. Thank you for exercising protection for us good people
No. 197     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  woodsypirate56   Gender: F   Age: 32   on  Dec 22, 2006 at 8:55 AM     
Awesome...from the thousands of single girls on this site! Amen!
No. 198     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  SallyOng   Gender: F   Age: 56   on  Dec 22, 2006 at 6:34 PM     
Glad to be here again. Hopefully I could find some friends to chat right now.... I wish all of you a merry christmas and happy new year. see you then. GOD BLESS
No. 199     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Glenda93   Gender: F   Age: 55   on  Dec 23, 2006 at 3:22 AM     
Thank you for this. I have had several men contact me who say they are Americans or Australians, eventually they say they are stuck in Africa and can I send money to them as theirs is tied up. After refusing to do this they become quite angry. Once again, thanks, Glenda.
No. 200     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  DivineDiva469   Gender: F   Age: 35   on  Dec 23, 2006 at 11:31 AM     
I think this is a very wise decision. Unfortunately, some Africans are ruining it for those that are genuine; however, I believe it is important to protect the current members from being scammed. Thank you for your concern for the members of this site.
God Bless!!
No. 201     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Brian85   Gender: M   Age: 44   on  Dec 23, 2006 at 12:52 PM     
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No. 202     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Sonja674   Gender: F   Age: 61   on  Dec 23, 2006 at 2:31 PM     
I agree with this!!!
No. 203     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  mpd694   Gender: F   Age: 44   on  Dec 24, 2006 at 1:01 AM     
can u just automatically delete them without letting these african people know about the restrictions... but i do understand your concern... thank you for sending this email... to me... maria
No. 204     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Stephen92   Gender: M   Age: 56   on  Dec 24, 2006 at 2:40 AM     
Thanks. Essential to keep the site for genuine seekers.
No. 205     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  grace32   Gender: F   Age: 37   on  Dec 24, 2006 at 7:04 AM     
May the Lord give you the desires of your heart!

Grace
No. 206     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  sammy774   Gender: M   Age: 31   on  Dec 24, 2006 at 10:57 AM     


DEAR MR/MRS ADMINISTRATOR:
I here by wishing a merry x-mas and aprosperous
new year,morever iwould like to thank u for the good service,.Mean while my comment is all about the way things are complecating.p'se don't harden
the system,let the africans do communicate to other members regurally.

GOD bless
...........
No. 207     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Pink   Gender: F   Age: 49   on  Dec 24, 2006 at 2:00 PM     
Thanks Dev,

Merry Christmas to a most wonderful Webmaster person
No. 208     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Evangelist727   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Dec 24, 2006 at 2:33 PM     
I think this is a wise move on your part. Have a blessed Christmas and Happy New Year!
Valerie
No. 209     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Patsy824   Gender: F   Age: 54   on  Dec 25, 2006 at 9:48 PM     
Thank you for taking care of this problem. Happy holiday to you and yours.
No. 210     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  ilovemylife   Gender: M   Age: 45   on  Dec 26, 2006 at 8:43 AM     
Thank You!!!
No. 211     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  siska438   Gender: F   Age: 60   on  Dec 26, 2006 at 4:37 PM     
I think it is to bad that it came to this but I understand the reasons behind it given the amount of scams that seem to happen. I have a friend I talk to from Etheopia that I have had contact with for over two years, he is only twenty one and I am sixty and he has never asked me for money or asked to come here he only talks to me about his love of god and his family as well as his hopes and dreams , same as my kids tell me. so everyone from Africa is not a scammer, just a few bad apples ruin the barrel so to speak. But in fairness to the administror of this site he most likely had no choice in this decision to protect the people using the site, god bless
No. 212     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Marcy44   Gender: F   Age: 45   on  Dec 27, 2006 at 3:26 AM     

I agree with this
No. 213     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  ifnot43nails   Gender: F   Age: 24   on  Dec 30, 2006 at 12:17 PM     
thank you! thank you! thank you! i have been avoiding coming to this site because the only mail i ever got was from africa or someone else who was just wanting to come to america. i used to enjoy this site before that started getting so bad. however i didn't want to complain either because i have never donated money or anything....i really appriciate the change and will help any way i can. thank you so much. denise.
No. 214     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Truffles685   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Dec 30, 2006 at 3:16 PM     
thank you for the posted changes
No. 215     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Joseph766   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Dec 30, 2006 at 7:42 PM     
Thank you for these changes. I have been a victum from users from African and now it is begaining in the Philippines. I have two people mother and daughter that are scammers. I will release any information needed to stop these wrongs. Please Reply Joseph 766 or Mondragon_42msn.com thank you
No. 216     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Alice649525   Gender: F   Age: 54   on  Jan 1, 2007 at 2:04 AM     
Dear Administrator,

Whatever is best for the majority, I support the move. You have all the right to protect all members from scammers. God bless you and prosper your endeavor in providing a link for Christians all over the world to meet and communicate thru this website. A blessed New Year to you all.

In His love,
Alice
No. 217     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  RaptureReady698   Gender: F   Age: 48   on  Jan 1, 2007 at 3:11 PM     
Dear Administrator;

Yes, very good to take these precautions and deter rascals from this terrific meeting place!!!

Good work on policing and that makes authentic suitors much more comfortable. Do what needs to be done -- kudos to you.

In His Light,
Ann-Marie T.
aka RaptureReady
No. 218     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Kerry92   Gender: M   Age: 34   on  Jan 1, 2007 at 4:16 PM     
I applaud you for having the guts to do this
No. 219     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Grace   Gender: F   Age: 47   on  Jan 2, 2007 at 1:10 AM     
I agree with your restrictions.
No. 220     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Alaric4   Gender: M   Age: 28   on  Jan 3, 2007 at 12:20 PM     
Glad you imposed this. I have received a few scam emails from people in Africa. I hope the sincere African members of this site are not inconvenienced too much by this. Keep up the great work!
In Christ,
Alaric4
No. 221     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  robert243   Gender: M   Age: 43   on  Jan 5, 2007 at 1:23 AM     
I think you did the right thing
robert
No. 222     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Lisa672   Gender: F   Age: 30   on  Jan 5, 2007 at 12:50 PM     
I completely agree. I have been contacted by various African men and after a few chats, they usually request money. I have opted to not respond at all to emails from Africa. Thank you for being aware of the problem and making efforts to avoid further confrontation.
No. 223     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Happyguy777592   Gender: M   Age: 63   on  Jan 6, 2007 at 5:59 PM     
I appreciate your taking this stand. I have no intention of contacting people in those countries mentioned for anything other than a pen pal relationship, and right now, I don't have time for that.
No. 224     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Lynsee   Gender: F   Age: 59   on  Jan 7, 2007 at 8:41 PM     
Great decision!
No. 225     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  JoniMac   Gender: F   Age: 49   on  Jan 9, 2007 at 6:13 AM     
YEAH, Dont change back. All I got was scammers on here. I may actually come on this site now. Thanks for the change.
JoniMac
No. 226     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  jaydee66   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Jan 9, 2007 at 6:22 AM     
Thank you. Appreciate these steps a lot.
jaydee
No. 227     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Diane539   Gender: F   Age: 56   on  Jan 9, 2007 at 9:59 AM     
It is sad that this step must be formally taken but necessary. My experience from other Christian meeting websites is that too many from Africa are primarily focused on scamming and obtaining monies by whatever means possible, incuding deception and misrepresentation. However as a word of caution this is not just a strategy of those from Africa, there are those who truly live in North America, Europe and other parts of the world whose motives are equally suspect. It is in our best interests and those of this site to be alert to the alarm bells ringing in our heads and hearts when we hear them. The Lord gives us these alarms to protect us.

Keep Him foremost in your hearts and heads as you search for friends and a possible mate. Keep your eyes on Him and he will direct your path.

No. 228     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  sherrycent679   Gender: F   Age: 45   on  Jan 9, 2007 at 10:15 AM     
I for one am glad of the changes. On other sites I have over and over again met people from Africa or stationed there and it is always the same. I am about to give up on these dating sites.Seems like they all have gotten robbed or sick and want money. I am so tired of it.Its nice to see someone who cares that thir site is being used in that way.Thank you again. Sincerly,
Cheryl
No. 229     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  kimbere1975377   Gender: F   Age: 31   on  Jan 9, 2007 at 4:07 PM     
I'm glad to see someone put some restrictions on this, it's out of hand!
No. 230     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  gus365   Gender: M   Age: 45   on  Jan 12, 2007 at 4:02 AM     
I agee with the restrictions here- way too many scammers!!
No. 231     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Birchman   Gender: M   Age: 53   on  Jan 12, 2007 at 5:58 PM     
Randal

This change has done wonders for email scammers so far. Before the change was made I received a scam message every 3-5 days. I haven't received a single scam message since you put this change in effect.

Thanks for solving the biggest problem the website faced. If even one person is spared the loss of hundreds of dollars to a scammer due to this change, it was all worth it.

Birchman
No. 232     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  cutie_anne74   Gender: F   Age: 35   on  Jan 14, 2007 at 1:28 AM     

Wat ever mood we hav 2day stay cool , stay fresh ... and face the day with a smile and say by GOD's GRACE will be okey ...
No. 233     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Trish48   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Jan 14, 2007 at 10:19 PM     
I think this is a good idea. I belong to a site called tagged.com where a person is supposed to meet friends, etc. And that is all I am out to find, not anything eles. Everyperson who has ever contacted me on that website has been from Africa and fortunately, I usually am aware of these types of scams. Sad thing is, I have never met anyone on that site that isn't scamming. There have been a few on here, but I do approve of what you are doing.
Thanks,
Trish48
No. 234     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Don82   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Jan 17, 2007 at 9:13 PM     
I'm on a management team for several sites.

Have you thought limiting the total amount of emails from one individual? These guys with the same profile, and same email messages, telling the same story, send out THOUSANDS! What's the highest from a legit member? Why not go with that... say 30 a month? and then add 25% onto that just in case someone has a lot of time on their hands. I don't think I'd get that high on this site... I haven't found matches here.

God's Peace,

Don
No. 235     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  John3:16   Gender: M   Age: 42   on  Jan 19, 2007 at 8:27 AM     
Thank you for restricting access from / to Africa!

Its a much needed step since scammers are VERY active in africa. I encountered two on Meet Christians - both had a sad story and wanted to send me money to exchange and keep money for them until they got here to America.

John
No. 236     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  gail625   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Jan 21, 2007 at 2:11 PM     
Thank you for your due diligence. Over the past year or so it seems most of the men contacting me have come from Africa. To protect myself I never responded - a bit harsh in some peoples eyes but with all the bad publicity regarding scammers from there we need to be proactive instead of reactive.
Thanks again
No. 237     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  graciousme   Gender: F   Age: 55   on  Jan 25, 2007 at 7:50 AM     
I realize this thread is old, but because of experiences that I have had in the past with African scammers and often they do come in "under disguise", I feel safer on this site because of Randel's Rules.
No. 238     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  dannyboy949   Gender: M   Age: 53   on  Jan 27, 2007 at 8:14 AM     
I moved from halifax in 83 to White Rock where I work and live .I am an optician and I like the work I do helping others to see better.

In my evenings I like to play guitar and sing .I like most all kinds of music.I also enjoy dancing every chance I get ,as this is good exercise also ,and we all need to get out of the ruts we're in.

I sure like to walk the beaches here ,but it would be more enjoyable with someone like you.
No. 239     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Julie257   Gender: F   Age: 59   on  Feb 1, 2007 at 11:54 AM     
I think this is a very wise decision. I have been and I know of others who have been contacted by scammers from Africa. Several younger men have proposed to me in their very first email. I think they were looking for a legal entry into the USA.
No. 240     Reply: Re: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  Manna5   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Feb 8, 2007 at 1:52 AM     
gail625 wrote:

Thank you for your due diligence. Over the past year or so it seems most of the men contacting me have come from Africa. To protect myself I never responded - a bit harsh in some peoples eyes but with all the bad publicity regarding scammers from there we need to be proactive instead of reactive.
Thanks again

I BELIEVE THIS POLICY IS TOTALLY UNCHRISTIAN.
IT FLIES IN THE FACE OF THE GREAT COMMISSION. IF PEOPLE SPAM YOU WHY DONT YOU TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS CHRIST?
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By:  Manna5   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Feb 8, 2007 at 1:52 AM     
Julie257 wrote:

I think this is a very wise decision. I have been and I know of others who have been contacted by scammers from Africa. Several younger men have proposed to me in their very first email. I think they were looking for a legal entry into the USA.

I BELIEVE THIS POLICY IS TOTALLY UNCHRISTIAN.
IT FLIES IN THE FACE OF THE GREAT COMMISSION. IF PEOPLE SPAM YOU WHY DONT YOU TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS CHRIST?

No. 242     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  KBJargo   Gender: F   Age: 45   on  Mar 5, 2007 at 6:05 AM     
I agree with the administrators decision to the changes he's made for users of this site. I've just returned to this site after about a year of being off-line. I was pleased to find the site was still FREE as I am on a fixed/limited income. When I'd originally joined this site, the only downfall was getting e-mails from Africa with heavy verbage on the persons faith, their plight, and wanting money. I tried explaining to them that not everyone in America is rich! I didn't have money to send to them, but told them I would pray for them; nevertheless, the e-mails along with requests for monetary help kept coming. It was like they never even read my replies. Thank you Mr. Administrator for making the decision to put a stop to these letters and for devoting so much of your time to monitoring and maintaining this site for all of us to enjoy. God bless you. KBJargo
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By:  mile77   Gender: F   Age: 44   on  Mar 12, 2007 at 2:34 PM     
Joseph766 wrote:

Thank you for these changes. I have been a victum from users from African and now it is begaining in the Philippines. I have two people mother and daughter that are scammers. I will release any information needed to stop these wrongs. Please Reply Joseph 766 or Mondragon_42msn.com thank you


Tell me email me in mile_mat@yahoo.com.ph
No. 244     Reply: Re: User Agreement changes   
By:  sharion129466   Gender: F   Age: 55   on  May 22, 2007 at 10:29 PM     
Yeah i agree, I talked to this guy on my space, said he lives in africa working there..but from maine usa...after a month he says his old job owes him money and he is going to send it to me..the ups came and there was a check for $2,500.00. he said to deposite it into my bank,,,but i went to the bank it said it was from on the check, citibank..told them to verify the check. they said it was fraud check and kept it and called police to report it...they ask me if i met him on line and was it delivered ups..also inside a blank envelope with my name on outside.. I said yes thats how it came..they have gotten lots of those fraud checks from people in africa at bank.
so be careful everyone of who you talk to thats not in usa,,especilly africa...sharion bless you all!!