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No. 0     Original Topic: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Jan 26, 2006 at 9:57 PM   Viewed 196656 times     
We already talked about all the various arguments for and against in the previous thread in this forum, which is still viewable.

As a partial reminder, my role has so far included doing a teensy bit of moderating anyway, at times mediating between parties in private, at times trying to request a degree of respect for opposing voices.

Now I have found one generous and perhaps slightly nutty individual who is willing to waste her own free time to answer questions and allow me to direct energies toward other areas of the site.

And I figure a second person might be useful too. That individual has already been approached. If so, they will share one profile, to which letters of concern, complaints, questions about stuff can be sent to the same profile, one that is presently called:

Moderator

Whoever speaks from that profile will add a signature identifying the one presently using the link.

For those worried about free speech or being abused, have a look at the other thread, “Revisiting the idea of Moderators,” to get a feeling for what my vision is.

I have deliberately approached people who are not overly assertive or opinionated, preferring to if anything error on the side of restraint because of how touchy it is to dare suggest there are limits on speech.

The only noticeable limit for the most part is going to be one of asking certain members (probably infrequently) to modify their own posts if severe or provacative personal attacks are contained therein, such as use of words like idiot and liar, and then keeping arguments from going toooooo far, along with (this will be coming soon) moving threads over to theo or wherever else if deemed appropriate.

I don’t make every move exactly right in this world or on this site. And she (or they) probably won’t either. Along that line, we will all be open for getting straightened out, plus have each other to bounce ideas off. The fact is, everywhere we go in life, SOMEONE has to make decisions. That goes for school, at home, on the streets where we have police, in our laws where legislators decide. Life is filled with monitors of one sort. And I find it nearly impossible to encounter a forum of any size on the internet where no use of moderators exists.

It is my belief the time has come for this website to employ them also, though certainly not in such an overbearing way as often found elsewhere.

Anyway, the individual undertaking this new assignment (the first person I asked) is Marisa, a long-time member of the site and quite familiar in the forums. I am thrilled and grateful that a person of her character and social grace will be doing the job when her schedule permits.
No. 1     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Hammered_Nails   Gender: M   Age: 22   on  Jan 26, 2006 at 10:09 PM     
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No. 2     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Annie53   Gender: F   Age: 54   on  Jan 26, 2006 at 10:17 PM     
Glad you have done it Dev, as so much was getting out of hand and words like liar and idiots and other harsh words are cruel and not godly and I do believe sites like this do need someone to keep thigs in control. WE do in the churches so we need them here too. God bless you in all you do for this site as many times I felt like leaving too but because of some wonderful friends i have met I'll be staying..Many thanks again.
No. 3     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Cynthia   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Jan 26, 2006 at 10:56 PM     
Thank you so much for doing your best ,in trying to make the MC site, the best it can be. I just talked to a friend tonight, that was talking about leaving the site, and they were the one, that got me to join the MC family, which I have not regretted ,to this day. They were upset about some of the things ,that were being said on the forums and how some were being treated. I will share this with them ,as I am trying to get them to stay. I had told them ,that I truly believed that God ,was going to change the MC for the better,as long as we kept it in prayer.
Thank you and may you stay blessed, in all that you do in life.:2thumbs:

Marisa,
Good luck my dear and may God Bless you, as you follow in His path.My prayers are with you, as you try and help keep the peace.:pray:
No. 4     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Don-C   Gender: M   Age: 60   on  Jan 26, 2006 at 11:06 PM     

Good Randal.

May I also suggest "rules" that will allow moderators to prevent
others from "hosing" an unliked thread by an excessive number of emoticons, or
from hyjacking a thread by unecessary and excessive posting of "tea parties".

Thanks

No. 5     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  MisterLogicReasonchurch74   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Jan 26, 2006 at 11:14 PM     
I had to go through 2000 words before encountering the name of the moderator???
No. 6     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Jan 26, 2006 at 11:38 PM     
MisterLogicReasonchurch74 wrote:

I had to go through 2000 words before encountering the name of the moderator???

Shouldn't you be writing a newspaper column or something? Ain't it a shame people like you and I can't get paid for our ruminations about the state of affairs in this world.

By the way, I'm thinking you must've meant 2,000 characters, not words. Good point though, making y'all dig through to find a name. Maybe the moderator will ask me to correct the post.
No. 7     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  MisterLogicReasonchurch74   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Jan 26, 2006 at 11:49 PM     
yes. maybe some venture capital money could get us our very own radio studio, expounding the true state of affairs of this country.
No. 8     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  fred8   Gender: M   Age: 48   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 12:00 AM     
thanks Admin

Fred
No. 9     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  RobertoVO5   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 12:17 AM     
Personally, I'm not sold on the idea, but will keep an open mind about it.
No. 10     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Big-Dave   Gender: M   Age: 42   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 12:59 AM     
Good choice...



Sorry Ris... I got Dev on the other thread

:naanaa:
No. 11     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  StevenKing   Gender: M   Age: 34   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 1:34 AM     
pretty well.

moderator / editor.

media without the one' will be like a plane without a pilot.

one should be here, but he should be in balance with everything.

my warm christian greetings, go cool.

:wavey:
No. 12     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  CelebrateJesus   Gender: F   Age: 24   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 2:05 AM     
I never liked moderation on other sites because it was always biased but I am all for marisa and gentle moderation. If I were a moderator several people would be completely banned for life and for good reason. That's just my honesty. However it would not be biased. It would be something that God wants and a huge benefit to the Body itself.

:playnice:
No. 13     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Julian   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 2:20 AM     
And about time too. I received a personal email only two days ago from a very distressed new member who had been savagely attacked in her first ever post to the website, based purely on her denomination as stated in her profile.

I would be in favour of time-limited bans, say three months, for serious offenders so that they would have time to reflect on their behaviour and hopefully learn to moderate their remarks.

I think a permanent ban is perhaps taking it too far because people who speak harshly on one topic, may have a lot to offer in another.

While I have your attention, I would like to say that I think the rudeness expressed frequently in the discussions is APPALLING for a website that is supposed to be Christian.

For three years I have participated in discussions at a secular website for computer professionals. We frequently have, and enjoy, non-technical discussions covering controversial topics including politics and religion.

There is a very small number of members who are evangelical Christians, and a small but slightly larger number of traditional Christians. There are a few very vocal atheists. Discussions at this website are self-moderated by members, who mostly deal with trouble-makers with humour or sarcasm.

The atheists would put to shame some members of MC because while they are cynical they rarely resort to attacks on the individual. In fact over a period of time staunch enemies become good friends, having learnt to agree to disagree.
No. 14     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  MisterLogicReasonchurch74   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 3:50 AM     
Big-Dave wrote:

Good choice...



Sorry Ris... I got Dev on the other thread

:naanaa:


such a nice picture. the above is so much better than the picture you made of me and was allowed to be posted on this site (I won't display it here, but for those who are curious, they can see it here: http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e191/toomers/pigman1.jpg ...since you can't click on this, you'd have to go to the effort of copying it into a browser to make it so effort would have to be done to view. I warn christians here that it is not pretty.
No. 15     Reply:  A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Julian   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 4:03 AM     


Such a nice picture. the above is so much better than the picture you made of me and was allowed to be posted on this site (I won't display it here, but for those who are curious, they can see it here: http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e191/toomers/pigman1.jpg ...since you can't click on this, you'd have to go to the effort of copying it into a browser to make it so effort would have to be done to view. I warn christians here that it is not pretty.


If you read the formatting instructions at the top of the window where you are writing your post, you will see easily how to convert a URL into a hyperlink.
No. 16     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Annie53   Gender: F   Age: 54   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 7:54 AM     
Please Everyone, you can't expect our administrator to keep everyone happy. Give the man a go, he is trying his best to make this an excellent site for us to enjoy,
Some will like it some won't but every site must abide by certain rules and standards. If we never had them things could really turn for the worse and people out of control, as we have seen here, and as everyone says this is a christain site so we should behave like christians, if we did then there would be no need for a moderator. just my:twocents:
No. 17     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Kari   Gender: F   Age: 55   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 9:44 AM     
Although she and I have not always agreeded in aproach or opinion, , Marisa and I have held a respectful and freindly relationship over the years. She has a great ability to see both sides. Good choice Dev.

Let's now see how it works. :salute:

Kari
No. 18     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 10:49 AM     
RobertoVO5 wrote:

Personally, I'm not sold on the idea, but will keep an open mind about it.

Well, we might lower the price later for customers still holding back.
No. 19     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Nehemiah   Gender: M   Age: 44   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 11:04 AM     
Julian523 wrote:

And about time too. I received a personal email only two days ago from a very distressed new member who had been savagely attacked in her first ever post to the website, based purely on her denomination as stated in her profile.


That happens, as Christians we cling to, "Christ", not "denominations". When we ally ourselves to a, "denomination" we have then left Christ as our master and then made the denomination as lord.

Ever notice how some people who claim to be, "Christians" check off their "denomination" at some sites instead of "Christian" which is an option at various sites i've visited. When the option is there, one is either a, "Christian" OR a, "Presbytarian" for example.

I'd like to see that option here as well.

I would be in favour of time-limited bans, say three months, for serious offenders so that they would have time to reflect on their behaviour and hopefully learn to moderate their remarks.


That is already in place here as far as i've observed. A 2 week ban or even just "asked" to take a 2 week vacation from the forums is something i've seen on numerous occaisions.

It then goes up from there all the way up to permanent banning if necessary. Why give spammers, and scammers a, "time period"? You'll only have to ban them again down the road. For them it should be permanent. I suspect only a minute percentage of them would actually repent anyway...

I think a permanent ban is perhaps taking it too far because people who speak harshly on one topic, may have a lot to offer in another.


I don't think the Admin has any intention of permanently banning someone just because of a few harsh words in the heat of a debate. Unless of course it's so outlandish or regular it requires it.

While I have your attention, I would like to say that I think the rudeness expressed frequently in the discussions is APPALLING for a website that is supposed to be Christian.


I've seen rudeness at other Christian forums too. Some far worse than what i've witnessed here. And most of them are moderated too.

For three years I have participated in discussions at a secular website for computer professionals. We frequently have, and enjoy, non-technical discussions covering controversial topics including politics and religion.

There is a very small number of members who are evangelical Christians, and a small but slightly larger number of traditional Christians. There are a few very vocal atheists. Discussions at this website are self-moderated by members, who mostly deal with trouble-makers with humour or sarcasm.


The very same thing occurs here from what i've observed.

The atheists would put to shame some members of MC because while they are cynical they rarely resort to attacks on the individual.


That's not what i've seen at some forums coming from the aetheists. (See link below).

Perhaps you could post the link to the forum site you are referring to so we here at MC can see how we should be conducting ourselves?

In fact over a period of time staunch enemies become good friends, having learnt to agree to disagree.


That happens ALL the time here at MC. Perhaps you are not on the forums here often enough too to see it?

If you think MC is caustic (which I don't believe it is), you should take a look at how people talk on some secular forums. Take this one for example at http://MySpace.com on the "religion" forum: http://www.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.
viewCategory&CategoryID=76&Mytoken=A1F99242-14BC-6DA4-
BC9E1435AC7035B312155658


I was shocked yesterday at how people talked to one another there and to Christians. And the amount of false theology, even satanism, being propagated there was baffling. Profanity, nudity, anti-Christ, "Christian bashing" teachings are the norm.:shock:

That forum makes MC look like Heaven on earth. What a mission field though!


(Modified by Admin to break url in order to stop screen from being stretched)
No. 20     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Nehemiah   Gender: M   Age: 44   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 11:30 AM     
Julian523 wrote:



Such a nice picture. the above is so much better than the picture you made of me and was allowed to be posted on this site (I won't display it here, but for those who are curious, they can see it here: http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e191/toomers/pigman1.jpg ...since you can't click on this, you'd have to go to the effort of copying it into a browser to make it so effort would have to be done to view. I warn christians here that it is not pretty.


If you read the formatting instructions at the top of the window where you are writing your post, you will see easily how to convert a URL into a hyperlink.


A mathematical genius who doesn't yet know how to make links clickable manually with MC's simple codes! LOL.

http://www.meetchristians.com/php/incl/html_substitute.html

All one has to do is go to MC's help section to find out how. :roll:

Maybe just laziness? :sleep:
No. 21     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  truth   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 11:38 AM     
Great idea, Dev! Much needed, sad to say. I almost never reccomend this site to others, because few are strong enough the withstand the very thing you are trying to 'moderate'. I personally have been blessed numerous times here, and have tried to give what I have received, as well. It would be a wonderful thing if this one glaring flaw could be resolved and babes in Christ could be safe here. Ruth
No. 22     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Nehemiah   Gender: M   Age: 44   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 11:44 AM     
I haven't seen much of Marisa on the forums lately but do remember bumping heads with her once in the past.

She seems like a pretty level-headed individual. 8)
No. 23     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Flashgordon   Gender: M   Age: 47   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 11:50 AM     
Good--Maybe when one posts in a certain forum, general, theology, prayer, or whatever it will be used what it was designed for. A prayer forum is for prayer requests and not someones theological upbringing in what THEY think one should do.
No. 24     Reply: Re: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Hammered_Nails   Gender: M   Age: 22   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 12:13 PM     
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No. 25     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Nehemiah   Gender: M   Age: 44   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 12:22 PM     
Hammered_Nails wrote:

That's why I'm there on that site. I'm taking the right influence to them through poetry and personally talking with other members there. Someone's gotta reach them people, and I figured if I don't make an effort to do it, who will? WWJD?? Well He did the same thing. Went out to the "bad" folk and taught them. It's the only way they're going to get straightened out.


You're definitely on the front lines there. Lots of unbelievers there even on the religious forum. It appears to me that many of them are, "looking for answers".

I went to post there last night but found you have to wait 7 days after creating your profile before the system will allow one to post on the forums. So I have a few more days to wait before I can post there.

It said that is to help, "curb spammers". Maybe it could be an idea here too!

Maybe we could have an MC, "swarm session" and a bunch of us Christians all post there on the various "religious threads" some night. That would really awaken them!

I will point out there are many Christians there as well
No. 26     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  justmekim   Gender: F   Age: 41   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 12:27 PM     
No. 27     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Hammered_Nails   Gender: M   Age: 22   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 12:53 PM     
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No. 28     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  SuperDave   Gender: M   Age: 22   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 1:01 PM     
Don-C wrote:


Good Randal.

May I also suggest "rules" that will allow moderators to prevent
others from "hosing" an unliked thread by an excessive number of emoticons, or
from hyjacking a thread by unecessary and excessive posting of "tea parties".

Thanks



Lol... Don! I am guilty as charged on this count... but let me assure you that if the moderators do the job properly, you will never see dancing bananas from me again! :D . The reason i do it is when things get a little pathetic on the name calling personal attacks front, and i think it makes a nice comparison... Posting lots of dancing bananas is as silly as calling each other names and getting personal.

I am all for debate, and will defend what i believe if required but i think it can be done easily without brow beating, if someone doesn't like what you think, let it rest, if they are truly being decieved, no amount of shouting at them will make them "see the light", in fact it'll just drive them the other way. Here's a little anecdote that has reference here:
Once upon a time there was a man who thought he was dead. His concerned wife and friends sent him to the friendly neighborhood psychiatrist. The psychiatrist determined to cure him by convincing him of one fact that contradicted his belief that he was dead. The psychiatrist decided to use the simple truth that dead men do not bleed. He put his patient to work reading medical texts, observing autopsies, etc. After weeks of effort the patient finally said:
"All right, all right! You've convinced me. Dead men do not bleed." Whereupon the psychiatrist struck him in the arm with a needle, and the blood flowed. The man looked down with a contorted, ashen face and cried: "Good Lord!
Dead men bleed after all!"


So lets help the moderator out by thinking before we jump on someone who disagrees with us and pray for the person instead.
Hooray for the moderator, i know a good job will be done and i'm sure my banana dancing days are over!
In Love
David
No. 29     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Nehemiah   Gender: M   Age: 44   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 2:44 PM     
(Modified by Admin to break url in order to stop screen from being stretched)


That only happens on Firefox, Mozilla, & Netscape I think, not Internet explorer.

Any chance on the site ever becoming, "friendly" using the above browsers?

Probably would require a great deal of reprogramming.
No. 30     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 3:04 PM     
Nehemiah wrote:

(Modified by Admin to break url in order to stop screen from being stretched)


That only happens on Firefox, Mozilla, & Netscape I think, not Internet explorer.

Any chance on the site ever becoming, "friendly" using the above browsers?

Probably would require a great deal of reprogramming.

A darn good chance, though possibly not real soon. I did have someone who agreed to work on various site features in exchange for placing a link on a couple pages. He changed his mind though, just a few days ago. That leaves me hoping for a clean trade to fall into my hands again or waiting until either learning enough programming myself or becoming willing to pay a programmer. We'll get there.

How does IE break the link? Seems rather silly that Mozilla has not accomplished such a basic function yet.
No. 31     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Big-Dave   Gender: M   Age: 42   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 3:29 PM     
Dear MisterLogicReasonchurch74,

Dude... :roll:
You must have a major chip on your shoulder

My goodness... How long ago was that thread? More than a year... or maybe two? Did I not apologize publically and remove the grossly offensive pig-man photo immediately? Now to have it reappear... BY YOUR OWN HAND... implying that it is so horrible.

The picture was in response to a reference to... men being pigs I think... To be honest, I still think it's funny, but I never meant to hurt your feelings then or now.

I can't imagine that someone could hold a grudge so long... over a silly picture that was obviously just an attempt at humor.

As someone who described himself as "a master of Puns" on his profile, I would think you were a bit more lighthearted. If you cannot forgive such a trivial offense... how do you expect to get forgiveness.

Anyone who has interacted with me knows that I am a bit of a clown, and like to have fun taking liberties with others photos. There is no maliciousness at all.


No. 32     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  joyful   Gender: F   Age: 49   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 4:08 PM     
I like your outfit Marisa!

Joy
No. 33     Reply: Re: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Don-C   Gender: M   Age: 60   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 4:29 PM     

SuperDave wrote:


Lol... Don! I am guilty as charged on this count...
but let me assure you that if the moderators do the job properly,
you will never see dancing bananas from me again! :D .
The reason i do it is when things get a little pathetic on the name calling
personal attacks front, and i think it makes a nice comparison...
Posting lots of dancing bananas is as silly as calling each other names and getting personal.



Funny thing Dave,
I did not see anyone rebuking the hateful posts of "unbelievers".

Talk about bias!

:headbang:

No. 34     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Don-C   Gender: M   Age: 60   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 4:34 PM     

CelebrateJesus wrote:

If I were a moderator several people would be completely banned for life and for good reason.
That's just my honesty. However it would not be biased.
It would be something that God wants and a huge benefit to the Body itself.

:playnice:


And just how would you know what God wants without being biased?

You want to "completely ban several people for life", but that would NOT be biased.

** sigh **

:headbang:

No. 35     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  SuperDave   Gender: M   Age: 22   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 4:48 PM     
Don-C wrote:

Funny thing Dave,
I did not see anyone rebuking the hateful posts of "unbelievers".

Talk about bias!

:headbang:



Oh no the bananas were for everyone who was resorting to pettiness, "unbelievers" included. I promise! No bias intended. If you weren't being petty then the bananas weren't intended for you and that is my last word on this subject...
No. 36     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Missionsminded4God   Gender: F   Age: 34   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 5:03 PM     
Sounds great thanks Dev.
No. 37     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  CelebrateJesus   Gender: F   Age: 24   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 6:48 PM     
Jesus is Lord! Amen!
No. 38     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Karen   Gender: F   Age: 44   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 9:12 PM     
Thank you to Dev and Marisa, esp. for all your VOLUNTEER time outside your busy lives. Let's lift them both up in prayer, and MC.
No. 39     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Nehemiah   Gender: M   Age: 44   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 9:33 PM     


Modified because the moderator has requested that I, "remove this comment".
No. 40     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  MrsW   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 10:17 PM     
Well, it seems that nothing can be done on MC without a great deal of controversy.

Randall, I am one who is skeptical about moderators but must say, I like your choice of Marissa and I am convinced that you have every intention of keeping the moderation gentle. I am behind you on your decision to moderate and appreciate your choice of moderator. I hope this will bring the results you are looking for.

I do sincerely wish that folks here could learn how to be more civil toward one another; yeesh.
No. 41     Reply: Re: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Karen   Gender: F   Age: 44   on  Jan 27, 2006 at 11:14 PM     
Don-C wrote:


CelebrateJesus wrote:

If I were a moderator several people would be completely banned for life and for good reason.
That's just my honesty. However it would not be biased.
It would be something that God wants and a huge benefit to the Body itself.

:playnice:


And just how would you know what God wants without being biased?

You want to "completely ban several people for life", but that would NOT be biased.



I am also confused with a contradictory statement such as this, and would like CJ to explain. Thanks.
No. 42     Reply: Denominations   
By:  Julian   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Jan 28, 2006 at 4:32 AM     
Nehemiah wrote:


That happens, as Christians we cling to, "Christ," not "denominations." When we ally ourselves to a, "denomination" we have then left Christ as our master and then made the denomination as lord.

Ever notice how some people who claim to be, "Christians" check off their "denomination" at some sites instead of "Christian" which is an option at various sites i've visited. When the option is there, one is either a, "Christian" OR a, "Presbytarian" for example.



This is NOT an appropriate forum in which to discussion denominations. However I will leave you with a thought or two. Probably at least 95 per cent of Christians worldwide associate with one or another denomination.

If you think you know better than God and can assert that these people no longer follow Christ and thus presumably are condemned to eternal damnation, then by all means enjoy standing in for God. I am sure He will be very impressed by your concern for all these "lost souls."

Personally I feel very blessed to know that I will not be travelling in the same "glory train" as you and your ilk at the end time.
No. 43     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Jan 28, 2006 at 10:10 AM     
Hammered_Nails wrote:

Too, if you're looking for anyone else to help out in the mod or other areas, just drop me a note.

Too young. I appreciate the offer, but even sending Marisa out there, her being 27, left me a teensy bit uneasy. That's not due to her (or your) abilities, but rather the necessity of confronting people much older, and what would be their reaction.

Regarding HTML help, I'm getting fairly decent with the code at this point, though do remain open for someone expert in php programming with MySQL added in. Been teaching myself in the meantime.
No. 44     Reply: Re: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  EyeLovesJesus   Gender: F   Age: 55   on  Jan 28, 2006 at 12:44 PM     
Hello beloved brother Dev..

I am here, if you need any additonal help..

My heart jumps for joy, that our dear sweet little sister Marisa, is the moderator..

You are all in my heart and in my prayers.. :hug: :pray:


Administrator wrote:

Hammered_Nails wrote:

Too, if you're looking for anyone else to help out in the mod or other areas, just drop me a note.

Too young. I appreciate the offer, but even sending Marisa out there, her being 27, left me a teensy bit uneasy. That's not due to her (or your) abilities, but rather the necessity of confronting people much older, and what would be their reaction.

Regarding HTML help, I'm getting fairly decent with the code at this point, though do remain open for someone expert in php programming with MySQL added in. Been teaching myself in the meantime.


No. 45     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  MisterLogicReasonchurch74   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Jan 29, 2006 at 3:44 AM     
looking for another mod??????? LOL, Maybe I'll never be considered?????
No. 46     Reply: Re: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Hammered_Nails   Gender: M   Age: 22   on  Jan 29, 2006 at 4:02 AM     
Administrator wrote:

Too young. I appreciate the offer, but even sending Marisa out there, her being 27, left me a teensy bit uneasy. That's not due to her (or your) abilities, but rather the necessity of confronting people much older, and what would be their reaction.


oh, I see how it is.....

No. 47     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Hammered_Nails   Gender: M   Age: 22   on  Feb 12, 2006 at 3:58 PM     
Administrator wrote:

Too young. I appreciate the offer, but even sending Marisa out there, her being 27, left me a teensy bit uneasy. That's not due to her (or your) abilities, but rather the necessity of confronting people much older, and what would be their reaction.



Well, if you were that uneasy about it, why did you reveal her as being one of the moderators?

Just curious.....
No. 48     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  CelebrateJesus   Gender: F   Age: 24   on  Feb 13, 2006 at 5:19 PM     
Jesus is Lord!


No. 49     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  China44   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 13, 2006 at 3:19 PM     
Myself I have been off-the-wall judged by some other Christians, just over some little thing they did not agree with. I have been cussed out in anger too over a ministry matter which the gentleman did not attempt to discuss, just at the moment of crisis, without coming to me to discuss, made an angry outburst and cussed me out. I was upset by the
"judgments" of this individual and hope they don't do it to any Christian they don't agree with.
No. 50     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Administrator   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Sep 13, 2006 at 6:21 PM     
China44 wrote:

Myself I have been off-the-wall judged by some other Christians, just over some little thing they did not agree with. I have been cussed out in anger too over a ministry matter which the gentleman did not attempt to discuss..."

Please send me a private email with the details. Include direct quotes from either the forum or whatever medium contained the comments. Thank you.
No. 51     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  clagger374   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Apr 1, 2007 at 4:41 PM     
I agree on freedom of speech, but there should be limits since this is supposed to be a christian website. From the subjects in the Men only forum, I wonder. We can allow people to disagree and good discussion is healthy but to spout filth and vulgarity, even derogatory statements that I have already read on here. I'm not talking about giving God's word either. I wonder what God would think of some of these posts. I don't think he would be very happy, do you?
There are times, as Christians, we must say NO and remove those things that are offensive to Christians. I'm sorry for those that say these things and I pray for them as they are the ones we want to reach but we can't allow them to run the forums, their way.
Yes, I'm old fashioned and I like it that way. I respect others as long as they respect me. I'd get a lot tougher on some things, please.
No. 52     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  unworldly   Gender: M   Age: 44   on  Jan 10, 2009 at 8:20 PM     
WOW, one of my old names is still around on post #5?

well, i think you'll need an extra 6-pack of beer per week while i'm in the forums.
No. 53     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  kingskidaz956   Gender: F   Age: 56   on  Feb 16, 2011 at 11:54 PM     
Thanks to the moderator and the administrator and anyone else who helps this site stay what it is and change for the better.... Standing ovation to ayou all. I have been here off and one for years and it stays pretty consistant and friendsly and thats because your doing a great job.. Thanks from the bottomr of my heart... Is there a way for suggestions, comments or questions to be asked of you? I have a few for the administrator who is... ? Randall? can you update this admin stie to introduce yourselfs so we know who you are thanks, Debbie
No. 54     Reply: Re: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  David4258   Gender: M   Age: 53   on  Mar 16, 2012 at 8:31 AM     
Administrator wrote:

MisterLogicReasonchurch74 wrote:

I had to go through 2000 words before encountering the name of the moderator???

Shouldn't you be writing a newspaper column or something? Ain't it a shame people like you and I can't get paid for our ruminations about the state of affairs in this world.

By the way, I'm thinking you must've meant 2,000 characters, not words. Good point though, making y'all dig through to find a name. Maybe the moderator will ask me to correct the post.


hahaha that was funny :laugh:
No. 55     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  Julie47348697   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Mar 9, 2013 at 11:23 PM     
I have only been here a few days, so I don't really know all that is going on. However taking charge over a site would not be no easy task, and I would not even know how accomplish such a task, but I send you my gratitude and thanks for carrying such a task. I find this a very blessed site and so fortunate in discovering it. Once again thank you.
No. 56     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  hhh   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Apr 7, 2013 at 5:32 PM     
.

Hi,
Lately when I try to modify a post for punctuation, or to spell a word right, instead of modifying the post... it re-posts the mistake, and the correction.

.
No. 57     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Apr 14, 2017 at 9:26 PM     
I like forum moderators!
No. 58     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Apr 23, 2017 at 7:12 AM     
Can you imagine a " community of people " without any moderators at all ?

It would be like a neighborhood without any police patrolling the area.

So ... even though we can learn to moderate ourselves ... the PRESENCE of a moderator from time to time would have some affect I would think.

No. 59     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  May 18, 2017 at 6:57 AM     
:pray:
No. 60     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  unspoiled   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  May 18, 2017 at 12:16 PM     
i feel so old now
No. 61     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  May 19, 2017 at 6:30 AM     
More then just me praying ... amen ? Amen !

:group_prayer:
No. 62     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Jun 8, 2017 at 5:37 AM     
Thankful for how God will watch over this website.
No. 64     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Jul 2, 2017 at 12:35 PM     
RadioPreacherMan wrote:

Can you imagine a " community of people " without any moderators at all ?


Im too old for a babysitter. Unless someone is cursing another really bad, like the four letter word and such, a moderator is not needed in my opinion. So many people whine over the smallest of things when the complainer has done worse and in most cases is even the one who started the trouble in the first place and they are never reprimanded and they knwo that which is why they run after a moderator. Nevermind what the reporter done to the reported. They know the moderator wont do anything to the real trouble makers which are normally the reporters. I have seen it time and time and time agian. So no, I dont feel a moderator is necessary. We are all adults and need to act our ages when in discussions. Running to a moderator is childish in most cases.
No. 65     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Jul 6, 2017 at 6:33 AM     
RadioPreacherMan wrote:

Can you imagine a " community of people " without any moderators at all ?



I'm back ! :wavey:

I was asked to do a funeral service for a family member ( aunt ) last week ( she was 66 years old ). Just needed some time to recuperate.

Anyway ... getting back to the forums and wanted to respond to this one first. Maybe this would be another way of saying what I said above ...

" Can you imagine a " community of people " without any POLICE at all ? "

Yes ... adult people should be able to " moderate " themselves ... but that does not always happen ... much like driving on a highway when no police are around ... people will start speeding and driving in an unsafe manner.

I will say ... if something gets too far out of hand here on MC ... Randal " will step in " ... much like being a guard rail ... but as you know TCG ... this still leaves a lot of room for people to weave back and forth on the road and drive in an " ungodly " manner as it relates to how they interact with others.

The best rule of thumb ( for me ) is ...


" If you see something from somebody you don't like ... then don't be like them. "

No. 66     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Jul 8, 2017 at 12:06 AM     
But it is only rare cases when someone needs reporting to a moderator. The problem with having a moderator is the reporters report the most uncalled for ridiculous things just to get someone else in trouble nevermind that the reporter starts the trouble alot of the time and ususally alwasys done worse than the one they reported. But the reporter doesn't want to be reported for their part in the fight. Therefore if all parties involved are not dealt with, the judgemnt of the moderator is unfair and wrong. Fair judgemnt is dealing with all involved not just one of them. If the moderator does not deal with each party involved then he is saying its ok for this one to attack that one and thats wrong. No one should ever attack anyone and get away with it and it shouldnt matter who they are. No fights are one sided and should never be treated as such.
No. 67     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Jul 9, 2017 at 6:01 AM     
It takes " two " to argue ... and only " one " to stop it.
No. 68     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Jul 9, 2017 at 7:43 AM     
The only righteous judge is God. The problem with man is if two people are in a heated argument, neither party wants to take responsibility for their own actions, they want to blame someone else for what they do and say. Add another man to the situation, the moderator, his judgment is based on which one he likes better, or which one has been there the longest and other wrong things instead of correcting all who are guilty of wrongdoing. whats real is both parties have bad mouths throwing evil comments and both should be dealt with. But thats not how it works. unfair judgement is how it works. this is how I have seen moderators work in all sites i have been in. The is no righteous judgment coming from man.
No. 69     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Jul 9, 2017 at 7:45 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

The only righteous judge is God.



Amen ! :2thumbs:
No. 70     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Jul 9, 2017 at 12:04 PM     
So why do you make yourself sound so needy of an unrighteous judge as you have made known in one of your post.
No. 71     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Jul 11, 2017 at 7:58 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

So why do you make yourself sound so needy of an unrighteous judge as you have made known in one of your post.



Who said I was needy ? ( another accusation again, but what's new )

No matter what " group or community " we are in ... there's is a " need " for someone to oversee it ... that's just a fact of life.

Yes, it may not always be the best or what we prefer ... but we still need it.

Now ... I made my point ... I gave a little explanation ... and I have no desire to " keep going on and on " with ... you ... on this particular topic.

So ... that's it ... :Hole:

No. 72     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Jul 11, 2017 at 12:22 PM     
you did, your wanting a moderator makes you needy.
No. 73     Reply: Re: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Jul 11, 2017 at 3:09 PM     
insular926 wrote:

I like forum moderators!



No. 74     Reply: Re: A forum moderator has arrived   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Jul 19, 2017 at 7:45 AM     
:group_prayer: