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No. 0     Original Topic:  FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  Verbatim   Gender: F   Age: 65   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 9:39 AM   Viewed 756 times     
Corrupted Scriptures in the New Living Translation



Deuteronomy - "sodomite" changed to "temple prostitute"

1 Kings 14:24 - "sodomites" replaced with "shrine prostitutes"
1 Kings 15:12 - "sodomites" replaced with "shrine prostitutes"
1 Kings 22:46 - "sodomites" replaced with "shrine prostitutes"
2 Kings 23:7 - "sodomites" replaced with "shrine prostitutes"

Matthew 17:21 - entire verse omitted
Matthew 18:11 - entire verse omitted
Matthew 19:9 - half of the verse is omitted
Matthew 23:14 - entire verse omitted

Mark 6:11 - half of the verse is omitted
Mark 7:16 - entire verse omitted
Mark 9:44, 46 - entire verses omitted
Mark 11:26 - entire verse omitted
Mark 15:28 - entire verse omitted
Mark 16:9-20 - entire passage is questioned by a footnote that says, "The most reliable early manuscripts conclude the Gospel of Mark at verse 8"

Luke 4:8 - "get thee behind me Satan" is omitted
Luke 17:36 - entire verse omitted
Luke 23:17 - entire verse omitted

John 1:10 - says God created everything "through" Jesus instead of "by" Jesus as the KJB teaches
John 1:41 - The NLT leaves out the phrase, "Which is by interpretation, a stone." Hence, the critical distinction between Peter as "the stone" (Petros), and Jesus as "The Rock" (Petra) is obscured. This was no doubt deliberate to pleases Catholics who falsely teach that Peter is the rock upon which the church is built.

The Bible states in no uncertain terms, "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ" (1st Corinthians 3:11).
John 3:16 - the all important word "begotten" is omitted, thus denying the deity of Christ
John 3:13 - "which is in heaven" is omitted John 5:4 - entire verse omitted
John 7:53 - 8:11 -- entire passage is questioned in a note which says, "The most ancient Greek manuscripts do not include John 7:53 - 8:11"

Acts 8:37 - entire verse omitted
Acts 12:4 - changes "Easter" to the incorrect "Passover" (See Numbers 28:16,17 and Acts 12:2 in the KJB)
Acts 17:29 - completely removes the "Godhead"
Acts 28:29 - entire verse omitted

Romans 1:20 - completely removes the "Godhead"
Romans 16:24 - entire verse omitted

Philippians 2:6 -removes the word "equal," thus denying Christ's deity

Colossians 1:16 - says God created everything "through" Jesus instead of "by" Jesus as the KJB teaches

Colossians 2:9 - completely removes the "Godhead"

1 Timothy 3:16 - "God" is omitted, says "Christ appeared in the flesh, thus denying the deity of Christ
1 Timothy 6:5 - "from such withdraw thyself" is omitted

Hebrews 1:3 - the all-important words "by himself" are omitted

1 Peter 4:1 - "for us" is omitted
1 Peter 4:14 - half of the verse is omitted

1 John 3:16 -completely removes "the love of God"
1 John 4:3 - the all-important words "Christ is come in the flesh" are omitted 1 John 5:7-8 -- Trinitarian clause omitted
1 John 5:7 - half of the verse is omitted, thus denying the Godhead
1 John 5:13 - half of the verse is omitted

Revelation 1:11 - first half of the verse is omitted
Revelation 5:14 - "him that liveth forever and ever" is omitted

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NLT/nlt_exposed.htm
No. 1     Reply: Re: FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 9:49 AM     
Feel free to state scripture verses from the Bible version you enjoy reading from Verbatim. I believe people are intelligent enough to read different versions and gain Godly " insight," when God reveals it to them.


No. 2     Reply: Re: Re: FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 9:55 AM     
RadioPreacherMan wrote:
Feel free to state scripture verses from the Bible version you enjoy reading from Verbatim. I believe people are intelligent enough to read different versions and gain Godly " insight," when God reveals it to them.


People guided by the Holy Spirit will be reminded of what Jesus preached, and they will be in position to discern the truth.
No. 3     Reply: Re: FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 9:57 AM     
Verbatim wrote:

Corrupted Scriptures in the New Living Translation



Deuteronomy - "sodomite" changed to "temple prostitute"

1 Kings 14:24 - "sodomites" replaced with "shrine prostitutes"
1 Kings 15:12 - "sodomites" replaced with "shrine prostitutes"
1 Kings 22:46 - "sodomites" replaced with "shrine prostitutes"
2 Kings 23:7 - "sodomites" replaced with "shrine prostitutes"

Matthew 17:21 - entire verse omitted
Matthew 18:11 - entire verse omitted
Matthew 19:9 - half of the verse is omitted
Matthew 23:14 - entire verse omitted

Mark 6:11 - half of the verse is omitted
Mark 7:16 - entire verse omitted
Mark 9:44, 46 - entire verses omitted
Mark 11:26 - entire verse omitted
Mark 15:28 - entire verse omitted
Mark 16:9-20 - entire passage is questioned by a footnote that says, "The most reliable early manuscripts conclude the Gospel of Mark at verse 8"

Luke 4:8 - "get thee behind me Satan" is omitted
Luke 17:36 - entire verse omitted
Luke 23:17 - entire verse omitted

John 1:10 - says God created everything "through" Jesus instead of "by" Jesus as the KJB teaches
John 1:41 - The NLT leaves out the phrase, "Which is by interpretation, a stone." Hence, the critical distinction between Peter as "the stone" (Petros), and Jesus as "The Rock" (Petra) is obscured. This was no doubt deliberate to pleases Catholics who falsely teach that Peter is the rock upon which the church is built.

The Bible states in no uncertain terms, "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ" (1st Corinthians 3:11).
John 3:16 - the all important word "begotten" is omitted, thus denying the deity of Christ
John 3:13 - "which is in heaven" is omitted John 5:4 - entire verse omitted
John 7:53 - 8:11 -- entire passage is questioned in a note which says, "The most ancient Greek manuscripts do not include John 7:53 - 8:11"

Acts 8:37 - entire verse omitted
Acts 12:4 - changes "Easter" to the incorrect "Passover" (See Numbers 28:16,17 and Acts 12:2 in the KJB)
Acts 17:29 - completely removes the "Godhead"
Acts 28:29 - entire verse omitted

Romans 1:20 - completely removes the "Godhead"
Romans 16:24 - entire verse omitted

Philippians 2:6 -removes the word "equal," thus denying Christ's deity

Colossians 1:16 - says God created everything "through" Jesus instead of "by" Jesus as the KJB teaches

Colossians 2:9 - completely removes the "Godhead"

1 Timothy 3:16 - "God" is omitted, says "Christ appeared in the flesh, thus denying the deity of Christ
1 Timothy 6:5 - "from such withdraw thyself" is omitted

Hebrews 1:3 - the all-important words "by himself" are omitted

1 Peter 4:1 - "for us" is omitted
1 Peter 4:14 - half of the verse is omitted

1 John 3:16 -completely removes "the love of God"
1 John 4:3 - the all-important words "Christ is come in the flesh" are omitted 1 John 5:7-8 -- Trinitarian clause omitted
1 John 5:7 - half of the verse is omitted, thus denying the Godhead
1 John 5:13 - half of the verse is omitted

Revelation 1:11 - first half of the verse is omitted
Revelation 5:14 - "him that liveth forever and ever" is omitted

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/NLT/nlt_exposed.htm


Very bad indeed! :help: :icon_redface: :Hole::thumb_dn:
No. 4     Reply: Re: Re: Re: FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 9:59 AM     
Devaprakash wrote:

People guided by the Holy Spirit will be reminded of what Jesus preached, and they will be in position to discern the truth.



Very Well Stated Dev ... Amen ... :2thumbs:
No. 5     Reply: Re: FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  Verbatim   Gender: F   Age: 65   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 10:12 AM     
Textus Receptus Bibles


1534 Tyndale Bible

1535 Coverdale Bible

1537 Matthew's Bible

1539 The Great Bible

1560 Geneva Bible

1568 Bishops Bible

1611 King James Bible

1769 King James Bible

1833 Webster's Bible

1862 Young's Literal

1876 Julia E. Smith

1993 J.P. Green's Literal

2000 Revised YLT NT

2016 King James Bible



Receptus MSS


1550 Robert Estienne

1598 Theodore Beza

1624 Elzevir 1624

1894 F.H.A. Scrivener

2017 TR NT Variants


English Translations of the Textus Receptus


(1500-1900)

1526,1534 Tyndale New Testament1
535 Coverdale Bible
1537 Matthew Bible1
1539 Great Bible
1560-1644 Geneva Bible
1568 Bishops' Bible
1611,1769 King James Bible
1764 Quaker Bible1
1833 Webster Bible1
1862 Young's Literal Translation
1876 Julia E. Smith Parker Translation
No. 6     Reply: Re: FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  Verbatim   Gender: F   Age: 65   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 10:15 AM     


Biblical Christians do not use corrupt Bibles.


A Biblical Christian uses a Textus Receptus Bible.
No. 7     Reply: Re: FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 12:31 PM     
The New Living Translation is not a, "word for word" translation.

It is a "paraphrased" version.

In other words, the author's goal was to translate, "meanings" of phrases and ideas, concepts, etc.

It can be beneficial in helping understand certain concepts.

But they should never be used solely as an accurate source since they are merely the translators perception of a thought or idea behind a Biblical verse, paragraph, or concept.

They should always be considered as a supplement, or additional tool to Biblical research, never as a primary source of biblical accuracy.

Paraphrased versions have benefited me, especially in my early Christian years.

But for accuracy you must remember to stick with, "word for word" translations and even then using a Strong's Concordance along with a Greek & Hebrew Lexicon for even better accuracy
No. 8     Reply: Re: FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 12:51 PM     
"The Great Bible" translation came about due to one of my ancestors, King Henry VIII. Although his motives for doing so were not pure. He did it simply to spite the Catholic church.

But in doing so, it placed the bible in english instead of Latin so the common man could now read it and understand it.

It ended, "the dark ages".

The Bibles were large and chained to the pulpit. Any parishioner was free to read it.

It was the first authorized version to be printed in english in over 1,000 years.

And for that, I am grateful! :-)

Some brief history about The Great Bible version:

http://www.greatsite.com/ancient-rare-bible-leaves/greatbible-leaf.html
No. 9     Reply: Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus   
By:  Verbatim   Gender: F   Age: 65   on  Nov 29, 2017 at 9:00 AM     
Codex Vaticanus

It disagrees with the ‘Texus Receptus’ many thousands of times.

It omits Genesis 1.1 thru Genesis 46.28, Psalms 106 - 138, Matthew 16.2-3, Titus, 1 and 2 Timothy, and Hebrews 9.14 thru 13.25. Also large parts of Samuel, Kings, Nehemiah, and all of Revelation.

Modern technology has proven that it has been altered by at least two different people.

It has almost 600 readings that cannot be found in any of the other 5,300+ available manuscripts.

This corrupt manuscript lay dormant and unused for over 11 centuries. (while true manuscripts were worn to pieces by use.)

It was ‘resurrected’ from the vaults of the Vatican in the 15th century to aid in suppressing the Reformation, and released 100 years later as the Jesuit-Rheims bible.

Codex Sinaiticus

The Sinaiticus manuscript was discovered (in part) in the mid-1800’s, by a man named Tischendorf, in a trash-can in St. Catherine’s Monastery near Mt. Sinai. It had been discarded by the monks. (these guardians of the truth deemed ‘Aleph’ to be garbage!)

It disagrees with the Texus Receptus approx. 9,000 times.

It has been proven that the manuscript has been erased and ‘corrected’ by as many as nine or ten people over the years.

It lay dormant and unused for over 15 centuries.

It has approx. 1,500 readings that cannot be found in any of the other 5,300+ available manuscripts.

It omits Exodus, Joshua, 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Kings, Hosea, Amos, Micah, Ezekiel, Daniel and Judges! Also parts of Matthew, Mark, John, Acts, Romans, 1John, Genesis, Numbers, and 1Chronicles.

The Vaticanus and Sinaiticus disagree with each other over 3,000 times in the Gospels alone.

If these two manuscripts used to construct the “Revised Greek Text’ are so different from the Texus Receptus, and also quite different from each other, how could anyone think them the proper text!
No. 10     Reply: Re: FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 2, 2017 at 6:45 AM     
"Paraphrased" versions should be taken with a grain of salt and one should know clearly what they represent.

And that is basically it's goal to make certain, "concepts" understood.

They are not word for word translations.

And they are also heavily influenced by the Author's personal interpretation of such.

They can and have been helpful in my early Christian years in understanding certain concepts.

But a word for word translation should always be consulted closely and always has the final say.

The older I get the less I need paraphrased versions.
No. 11     Reply: Re: FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  shodan_carmen   Gender: M   Age: 67   on  Dec 3, 2017 at 1:32 AM     
The change from 'sodomites' to the 20th Century PC re-interpretation of cult prostitute IS a big distortion. Today, the false teaching is that homosexuality is not condemned, it is only cult prostitution that is condemned. {That is the new fad that supplements the older excuses} e.g.
https://textsincontext.wordpress.com/2012/12/29/homosexuality-false-contexts-and-perverting-scripture/



But the 'missing' verses? What happened in the Textus Receptus is that scribes added additional information that was available in OTHER verses. Where words are 'missing' is simply returning to the older manuscripts.
No. 12     Reply: Re: FYI: New Living Translation- One Corrupt Bible   
By:  bodyservant56   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Dec 7, 2017 at 7:41 PM     
One thing I can say, the KJV-only people are good for a laugh.:icon_rolleyes: