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No. 0     Original Topic:  US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 11, 2017 at 4:15 AM   Viewed 1254 times     
Did you know that the USA has over 800 Military bases scattered amongst 70 different countries around the world?

And this total does not include bases within the USA itself.

By contrast if you total the number of Military bases other countries have outside of their own countries the total is only 30.

https://www.thenation.com/article/the-united-states-probably-has-more-foreign-military-bases-than-any-other-people-nation-or-empire-in-history/

No. 1     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 11, 2017 at 9:17 AM     
This thread is about past, current, and former US Military Weapons and capabilities and will cover a broad range of subjects.


Just this morning I was amazed to find out about the, "Nike" Anti-Aircraft Missile systems which were installed across the USA during the cold war near Major cities.

They were under the US Army's jurisdiction.

There were 265-300 Nike missile bases deployed across the US.

They were designed to shoot down incoming Soviet Bomber Planes which would drop Nukes on major US cities.

They were basically the last line of defense against incoming Russian Bombers.

There were 23 different launch installations with a total of 600 Nike Ajax Missiles here around the Chicago & Northwest IN area.

One such installation was just 2 miles east of me.

"...A few year later the Ajax was replaced by the Nike Hercules, which would use a nuclear-tipped warhead to destroy multiple aircraft at once. In other words, the Hercules would use (nuclear) fire to fight (nuclear) fire..."

So in other words we had NUKES here in the Chicago area!

Some of them were still active in the Chicago area as late as the middle 1970's.

Today Little evidence remains of them.

Here is the entire list and their locations around the country:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nike_missile_sites

No. 2     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 11, 2017 at 10:19 AM     
The Nike Hercules, which was Nuclear tipped and designed to take out groups of Soviet Bomber planes carried a Warhead of anywhere from 2kts up to 40kts

That is twice the strength of the bomb which was dropped on Nagasaki.

The Nike Ajax, used conventional explosives in the beginning and later Nuclear tipped up to 15kts, same strength as that used on Hiroshima.

The Nike Zeus was the 3rd generation which could also take out ICBM's and was basically the first "Anti-Missile Missile", the equivalent of our current Patriot Missile system.

The Nike Zeus used a Nuclear warhead though whereas our Patriot system does not.

I never knew we had Nukes stationed around Chicago here! :icon_eek:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-14_Nike_Hercules
No. 3     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 11, 2017 at 7:10 PM     
There was work underway as of 2012 to restore one of the former Nike Missile underground missile magazine sites in the Chicago area in Vernon Hills.

The missiles were typically stored horizontally underground and were only brought up via elevators then vertically stood upright via a hydraulic system for launch during a possible Soviet Bomber Plane invasion.

Each Nike Missile Base had about 100 Military Service Personnel who ran each base.

The launch pads and fire control buildings were usually 1/2 to 3 miles apart.

The Sea Cadets were doing the cleanup work.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20120730/news/707309911/

The only fully restored Nike Missile site in the Nation is near San Francisco where they have turned it into a Museum.

This video shows a Nike Missile there being moved to the upright position for firing:

https://youtu.be/o_-pk4Ez_3s
No. 4     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 11, 2017 at 7:43 PM     
Want to buy your own former Nike - Hercules Missile base?

This one in IL outside of St. Louis was for sale in 2014 with a starting bid of $70,000. St. Louis had four different Nike Missile sites.

The hydraulic Missile Elevator still works too.

You could probably set your car or truck on the elevator and store it underground!

https://youtu.be/XbOmDQoYUbk

No. 5     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 12:54 AM     
Psalms 20: 7 Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.
No. 6     Reply: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 3:51 AM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Psalms 20: 7 Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.


1 "There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:

2
a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3
a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4
a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5
a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6
a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7
a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8
a time to love and a time to hate,"
a time for war and a time for peace"
~ Ecclesiastes 3:1-8
No. 7     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 4:00 AM     
Some people who deceive themselves like to pick and choose Scriptures in order to suit their own agenda, and trust in their own perceived righteousness.

We know however what the Bible says as a whole and know there are plenty of Scriptures in both the Old and New Testament which sometimes call for physical force...

"A Psalm of David. Blessed be the LORD, my rock, Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle;" ~ Psalm 144:1 NASB

Jesus made a whip, turned tables upside down, and basically went on a rampage.

He got angry, and physical too.

Yet he was in the perfect will of God.
No. 8     Reply: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 10:22 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Psalms 20: 7 Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God.


1 "There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:

2
a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3
a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
4
a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5
a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
6
a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
7
a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8
a time to love and a time to hate,"
a time for war and a time for peace"
~ Ecclesiastes 3:1-8


One needs the Holy Spirit to discern what is relevant and what is not. Leaning on Bible won't work for being in the light of the Lord
No. 9     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 11:56 AM     
Devaprakash wrote:

One needs the Holy Spirit to discern what is relevant and what is not. Leaning on Bible won't work for being in the light of the Lord


The Holy Bible works for me...
No. 10     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 7:20 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

One needs the Holy Spirit to discern what is relevant and what is not. Leaning on Bible won't work for being in the light of the Lord


The Holy Bible works for me...


I know, very conveniently I presume!
No. 11     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 9:18 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

One needs the Holy Spirit to discern what is relevant and what is not. Leaning on Bible won't work for being in the light of the Lord


The Holy Bible works for me...


I know, very conveniently I presume!


Yes, it made me a Born Again Christian...even without your approval!
No. 12     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 10:17 PM     
Trumpy is promoting peace through prosperity
and the Whole Asian Theater Loves Him for it.

but U.S. home grown Marxist's/'MSLSD & some RINO Trotsky's
over at 'FOX are just Empty used paper cups with the
stench of more agitation and propaganda.”
No. 13     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 13, 2017 at 12:13 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

One needs the Holy Spirit to discern what is relevant and what is not. Leaning on Bible won't work for being in the light of the Lord


The Holy Bible works for me...


I know, very conveniently I presume!


Yes, it made me a Born Again Christian...even without your approval!


A typical self-proclamation! Are you really born from above?
No. 14     Reply: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 13, 2017 at 12:14 AM     
crayons wrote:

Trumpy is promoting peace through prosperity and the Whole Asian Theater Loves Him for it.


A typical Satanic temptation! :tongue:
No. 15     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 13, 2017 at 12:34 AM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

One needs the Holy Spirit to discern what is relevant and what is not. Leaning on Bible won't work for being in the light of the Lord


The Holy Bible works for me...


I know, very conveniently I presume!


Yes, it made me a Born Again Christian...even without your approval!


A typical self-proclamation! Are you really born from above?


Yes, and all without your "help" or approval!

Sorry!
No. 16     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 13, 2017 at 7:02 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

One needs the Holy Spirit to discern what is relevant and what is not. Leaning on Bible won't work for being in the light of the Lord


The Holy Bible works for me...


I know, very conveniently I presume!


Yes, it made me a Born Again Christian...even without your approval!


A typical self-proclamation! Are you really born from above?


Yes, and all without your "help" or approval!

Sorry!


Others will find out whether you are a true believer with the fruit of the Spirit; it cannot be your self-claim. :no-no:
No. 17     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 13, 2017 at 7:46 AM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Others will find out whether you are a true believer with the fruit of the Spirit; it cannot be your self-claim. :no-no:


I'm going to Heaven and there isn't one damn thing you can do about it devil.

I don't think you are a Born Again Christian like I am.

I think you are a Hindu posing as a Christian.

You see, others can play your same game just like you...

No true Christian preaches against the writings of the Apostle Paul like you do.

Christians consider him and his writings as part of the New Testament and one of the founding Fathers of the Church

And the reason you do not consider the Apostle Paul a Christian, his writings inspired by the Holy Spirit, and a part of the New Testament Church is because his writings testify against your beliefs.

Namely, your "Grace plus works" doctrine which you believe and advocate.

Since Paul preaches against such a concept you are naturally against him.

Your concept of the grace plus works doctrine stems from taking pride in your own perceived righteousness and holiness before the Lord.

You are no different than the Pharisees and think you can, "work your way into Heaven".

The Gospel is a free gift.

It is not something you earn.

Until or unless you come to the place in your life where you cease to trust in your own good works, your own perceived holiness, your own perceived righteousness and instead accept the fact that they are all nothing more than filthy rags and instead trust in the pure unadulterated atoning work of the Lord on the Cross of Calvary instead you will never understand the Gospel.
No. 18     Reply: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Nov 13, 2017 at 10:15 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

The Nike Hercules, which was Nuclear tipped and designed to take out groups of Soviet Bomber planes carried a Warhead of anywhere from 2kts up to 40kts

That is twice the strength of the bomb which was dropped on Nagasaki.

The Nike Ajax, used conventional explosives in the beginning and later Nuclear tipped up to 15kts, same strength as that used on Hiroshima.

The Nike Zeus was the 3rd generation which could also take out ICBM's and was basically the first "Anti-Missile Missile", the equivalent of our current Patriot Missile system.

The Nike Zeus used a Nuclear warhead though whereas our Patriot system does not.

I never knew we had Nukes stationed around Chicago here! :icon_eek:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-14_Nike_Hercules


How interesting BF! Who would have thought?! :-p

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Devaprakash wrote: Others will find out whether you are a true believer with the fruit of the Spirit; it cannot be your self-claim.


Believing or following? It will not be done on a website such as this where many seek unreasoned quarrel.

The Lord judges His and the Lord alone as far as Who He saves. Human believers might have had King David not saved if only viewing what is on the surface and not what is in the heart (that humans can not judge correctly most often).



No. 19     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 13, 2017 at 7:18 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Others will find out whether you are a true believer with the fruit of the Spirit; it cannot be your self-claim. :no-no:


I'm going to Heaven and there isn't one damn thing you can do about it devil.

I don't think you are a Born Again Christian like I am.

I think you are a Hindu posing as a Christian.

You see, others can play your same game just like you...

No true Christian preaches against the writings of the Apostle Paul like you do.

Christians consider him and his writings as part of the New Testament and one of the founding Fathers of the Church

And the reason you do not consider the Apostle Paul a Christian, his writings inspired by the Holy Spirit, and a part of the New Testament Church is because his writings testify against your beliefs.

Namely, your "Grace plus works" doctrine which you believe and advocate.

Since Paul preaches against such a concept you are naturally against him.

Your concept of the grace plus works doctrine stems from taking pride in your own perceived righteousness and holiness before the Lord.

You are no different than the Pharisees and think you can, "work your way into Heaven".

The Gospel is a free gift.

It is not something you earn.

Until or unless you come to the place in your life where you cease to trust in your own good works, your own perceived holiness, your own perceived righteousness and instead accept the fact that they are all nothing more than filthy rags and instead trust in the pure unadulterated atoning work of the Lord on the Cross of Calvary instead you will never understand the Gospel.


Pity! Paul-mania!

2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

No use in speculations and blowing out disproportionately the speculations of Paul! :headbang:
No. 20     Reply: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 13, 2017 at 7:24 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

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Devaprakash wrote: Others will find out whether you are a true believer with the fruit of the Spirit; it cannot be your self-claim.


Believing or following? It will not be done on a website such as this where many seek unreasoned quarrel.

The Lord judges His and the Lord alone as far as Who He saves. Human believers might have had King David not saved if only viewing what is on the surface and not what is in the heart (that humans can not judge correctly most often).


How craftily people mix up words for their self-claims!

You seem to be sporting a salvation tag on your head already irrespective what Jesus thinks of you!
No. 21     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 14, 2017 at 4:32 AM     
Devaprakash wrote:

CAsandie wrote:

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Devaprakash wrote: Others will find out whether you are a true believer with the fruit of the Spirit; it cannot be your self-claim.


Believing or following? It will not be done on a website such as this where many seek unreasoned quarrel.

The Lord judges His and the Lord alone as far as Who He saves. Human believers might have had King David not saved if only viewing what is on the surface and not what is in the heart (that humans can not judge correctly most often).


How craftily people mix up words for their self-claims!

You seem to be sporting a salvation tag on your head already irrespective what Jesus thinks of you!


She, and we Christians already know what Jesus thinks of us.

Jesus left his record for us to know just what he thinks of us.

It's called the Holy Bible.

Ever heard of it???
No. 22     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 14, 2017 at 4:41 AM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Pity! Paul-mania!

No use in speculations and blowing out disproportionately the speculations of Paul! :headbang:


There is just one problem with your above comment.

What the Apostle Paul wrote was not his own doing.

He acted, spoke, and wrote under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

None of his writings are "speculation".

They are part of the New Testament.

Anyone who believes otherwise is an enemy of Christ and his work.
No. 23     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Nov 14, 2017 at 9:18 AM     
Devaprakash wrote:

CAsandie wrote:

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Devaprakash wrote: Others will find out whether you are a true believer with the fruit of the Spirit; it cannot be your self-claim.


Believing or following? It will not be done on a website such as this where many seek unreasoned quarrel.

The Lord judges His and the Lord alone as far as Who He saves. Human believers might have had King David not saved if only viewing what is on the surface and not what is in the heart (that humans can not judge correctly most often).


How craftily people mix up words for their self-claims!

You seem to be sporting a salvation tag on your head already irrespective what Jesus thinks of you!


Devaprakash, actually -- it was you who first asked me if one is a believer or a follower and I found wisdom in 'your' words.

Please -- nobody wants to argue here in this thread now.

It is the Lord's Promises that BF, myself and Christians believe in (not our own work, our own thoughts and certainly not being worthy) that believers and followers alike both cling to. It is not Paul, but Christ.

Let's not Judge. Let's seek something greater than quarreling (e.g. the Lord's Will Who has a better use of our time, agree)?

typo
No. 24     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 14, 2017 at 6:39 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Pity! Paul-mania!

No use in speculations and blowing out disproportionately the speculations of Paul! :headbang:


There is just one problem with your above comment.

What the Apostle Paul wrote was not his own doing.

He acted, spoke, and wrote under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

None of his writings are "speculation".

They are part of the New Testament.

Anyone who believes otherwise is an enemy of Christ and his work.


You are claiming what Paul himself did not claim! Don't you know that he was constantly troubled by a messenger of Satan? Did he not also write that he was writing on his own, not according to directive of the Lord? You seem to be blind to the truth! :headbang:
No. 25     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 14, 2017 at 6:44 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

CAsandie wrote:

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Devaprakash wrote: Others will find out whether you are a true believer with the fruit of the Spirit; it cannot be your self-claim.


Believing or following? It will not be done on a website such as this where many seek unreasoned quarrel.

The Lord judges His and the Lord alone as far as Who He saves. Human believers might have had King David not saved if only viewing what is on the surface and not what is in the heart (that humans can not judge correctly most often).


How craftily people mix up words for their self-claims!

You seem to be sporting a salvation tag on your head already irrespective what Jesus thinks of you!


Devaprakash, actually -- it was you who first asked me if one is a believer or a follower and I found wisdom in 'your' words.

Please -- nobody wants to argue here in this thread now.

It is the Lord's Promises that BF, myself and Christians believe in (not our own work, our own thoughts and certainly not being worthy) that believers and followers alike both cling to. It is not Paul, but Christ.

Let's not Judge. Let's seek something greater than quarreling (e.g. the Lord's Will Who has a better use of our time, agree)?

typo


I am not quarreling; I am simply defending the truth and pointing out very erroneous speculations that may not please people.

Which country in the world is finding pretext to indulge in war for their benefits? Remember Vietnam? No lessons from that? Is USA an international police?
No. 26     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 14, 2017 at 6:48 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

CAsandie wrote:

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Devaprakash wrote: Others will find out whether you are a true believer with the fruit of the Spirit; it cannot be your self-claim.


Believing or following? It will not be done on a website such as this where many seek unreasoned quarrel.

The Lord judges His and the Lord alone as far as Who He saves. Human believers might have had King David not saved if only viewing what is on the surface and not what is in the heart (that humans can not judge correctly most often).


How craftily people mix up words for their self-claims!

You seem to be sporting a salvation tag on your head already irrespective what Jesus thinks of you!


She, and we Christians already know what Jesus thinks of us.

Jesus left his record for us to know just what he thinks of us.

It's called the Holy Bible.

Ever heard of it???


Have you found the word 'Bible' in the Bible? You know what Jesus thinks of you? Another tall claim?

Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

No. 27     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 8:50 AM     
You are just offering off topic personal attack, a lack of respect and quarreling here, Devaprakash. It has no resemblance of teaching or kindness as is of the Spirit.

Ignoring and moving on.

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BF wrote: This thread is about past, current, and former US Military Weapons and capabilities and will cover a broad range of subjects.


On topic....

Just this morning I was amazed to find out about the, "Nike" Anti-Aircraft Missile systems which were installed across the USA during the cold war near Major cities.

They were under the US Army's jurisdiction.

There were 265-300 Nike missile bases deployed across the US.


Rather amazing, huh?! 9/11 raised the question in a lot of ppl's minds if we are prepared for invasions on our own soil while we have proved our 'heavy' capabilities in warfare to the rest of the world). I think this is because historically its not occurred until 9/11 and even then it was a 'cowardly' suicide attack of civilians.

We used to have 'drills' on the military installations I worked on about every three months 'after' 9/11 (in case invasion or terrorist attack did occur). It might be comforting to know that during these times of 'mock' warfare that the response time was within minutes (within minutes our military could target an enemy). Sharing this, because I was always impressed with the mock training drills we participated in as civilians.

Thanks for your research here BF.



No. 28     Reply: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 7:27 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

You are just offering off topic personal attack, a lack of respect and quarreling here, Devaprakash. It has no resemblance of teaching or kindness as is of the Spirit.

Ignoring and moving on.


So you think sycophancy is desirable at the expense of truth! Consequently, you are against Jesus who used whip and condemned the so called religious people of His day!

I know, people ignore to their own peril. I have done my duty. I am not here to please people like what Paul did compromising with the words of Jesus. :headbang:

No. 29     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 8:01 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Pity! Paul-mania!

2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

No use in speculations and blowing out disproportionately the speculations of Paul! :headbang:


You are speaking of yourself here.

It is YOU who do not understand the Gospel as well as the Apostle Paul's writings in the New Testament.

You have made it well known over the years here on MC that you do not believe Paul's writings to be the inspired Word Of God.

Christians however believe ALL 66 books of the Bible to be the written word of God, not just the Old Testament and a small fraction of the New testament like you do.

The Apostle Paul wrote 13 to possibly 14 books of the New Testament, much more so than any other Author. Almost 1/3 of the New Testament.

To discredit those 13 books like you do (as well as Paul) makes you an enemy of Christ and an Apostate.


How much of the New Testament was written by Paul?

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Contents

The New Testament and the Apostle Paul
The numbers

A Christian pastor said, I’ve never liked Paul. What are his epistles? They are just letters to people. We only have the one side of them, so we have to guess what he’s talking about anyway.

If he believes what he’s saying, this man just placed himself above the Scriptures, teaching something seemingly in violation of John 1.1-3, 2 Timothy 3.16, and especially James 4:11 which reads,

Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of [his] brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.(James 4:11)

The New Testament and the Apostle Paul

These professing Christians who are so quick to throw out and malign the Apostle Paul are everywhere, in every supposedly conservative Bible-believing denomination. It got me wondering, just how much of the New Testament are they pooh-poohing?

Here’s the answer: 28 percent of the New Testament was written by the Apostle Paul.

That’s a big chunk of the Bible to be throwing in the garbage. Another gospel? Maybe so. What do you think?

The numbers

How much of the New Testament scriptures were written by the Apostle Paul?

Based on the word counts of the 1769 edition of KJV from Bible stats, here’s how it works out:

Paul wrote 50190/179011 or 28% of the NT.
Book Words
Romans 9422 words
1 Corinthians 9462 words
2 Corinthians 6046 words
Galatians 3084 words
Ephesians 3022 words
Philippians 2183 words
Colossians 1979 words
1 Thessalonians 1837 words
2 Thessalonians 1022 words
1 Timothy 2244 words
2 Timothy 1666 words
Titus 896 words
Philemon 430 words
Hebrews 6897 words

Total words written by Paul: 50,190 words Total words in the New Testament: 179,011

So Paul wrote 50190/179011 or 28% of the NT."

http://www.alecsatin.com/ever-wonder/how-much-of-the-new-testament-was-written-by-paul/

Case closed!
No. 30     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 8:17 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Pity! Paul-mania!

No use in speculations and blowing out disproportionately the speculations of Paul! :headbang:


There is just one problem with your above comment.

What the Apostle Paul wrote was not his own doing.

He acted, spoke, and wrote under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

His writings are not, "speculation".

They are part of the New Testament.

Anyone who believes otherwise is an enemy of Christ and his work.


You are claiming what Paul himself did not claim! Don't you know that he was constantly troubled by a messenger of Satan? Did he not also write that he was writing on his own, not according to directive of the Lord? You seem to be blind to the truth! :headbang:


You're way out in left field.

2 issues here I will address. The first one being your claim that Paul's writings are not inspired by the Lord.

The 2nd issue concerning the messenger of satan which was troubling Paul. I will address in another post later in this thread.

Read this:

Why Are the Writings of the Apostle Paul Considered to Be Divinely Authoritative?

"The apostles not only accepted the Old Testament and Jesus' Word's as authoritative, they also began to see that their writings were on the same authoritative level. Being led by the Holy Spirit, they believed they were speaking for Christ. The Apostle Paul, for example, wrote thirteen letters that have been recognized as Holy Scripture by the Christian church. Who was this man? What evidence do we have to call Paul's writings Scripture?

Who Was Paul?

We have no physical description of Saul of Tarsus given to us in Scripture. Early tradition says that he was a small man with a bald head. No matter what he looked liked, his writings have become part of the Word of God as found in the New Testament.

He was born Saul of Tarsus - a city which is in modern-day Turkey. Tarsus had been part of the Greek world for some time. Although the family of Saul were Jews, Saul himself was a Roman citizen.

While still a young man Saul traveled to Jerusalem to train as a Rabbi. In Jerusalem, he became acquainted with a group of people who believed Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah. Saul relentlessly persecuted these people while all the time thinking that he was serving God.
The Conversion Of Saul Of Tarsus

While heading for Damascus to further jail believers in Jesus, Saul had a blinding vision that knocked him to the ground. The voice that spoke to Saul identified Himself as Jesus of Nazareth - the one whom he had been persecuting. Thus began one of the great turnarounds in history. The greatest antagonist of the Christian faith - Saul of Tarsus - became its greatest missionary - the Apostle Paul. During his lifetime he penned thirteen different works that have become part of the New Testament. It is impossible to overestimate the influence that Paul played in the spread of the Christian faith.

He Believed His Message To Be Divine

The first thing that must be noticed is that Paul believed his message to be divine. He wrote.

If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord (1 Corinthians 14:37).

He wrote to the church at Thessalonica.

And for this reason we also constantly thank God that when you received from us the word of God's message, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God, which also performs its work in you who believe (1 Thessalonians 2:13).

Paul Spoke Of My Gospel

Paul spoke of "my gospel." He said the preaching of Jesus Christ had been kept secret but now had been revealed.

Now to him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith (Romans 16:25,26).

However, believing to have a divine message does not make it so. What evidence do we have of this message having been sent from God?

Paul Received Direct Revelation From The Lord

The Bible teaches that Paul received direct revelation from God. Paul wrote.

Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? (1 Corinthians 9:1).

After an encounter with the ascended Jesus on the Damascus road, Paul had it explained by Ananias:

The God of our fathers has chosen you that you should know his will, and see the Just One, and hear the voice of his mouth. For you will be his witness to all men of what you have seen and heard (Acts 22:14,15).

Disobeying His Writings Brings Discipline

Paul said that anyone who disobeyed his writings was to be disciplined by the local church. He wrote.

If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of that person and do not associate with him, so that he will be put to shame (2 Thessalonians 3:14).

To the Corinthians he wrote.

I already gave you a warning when I was with you the second time. I now repeat it while absent: On my return I will not spare those who sinned earlier or any of the others, since you are demanding proof that Christ is speaking through me. He is not weak in dealing with you, but is powerful among you (2 Corinthians 13:2-3).

Paul also wrote.

If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored (1 Corinthians 14:37,38).

His Writings Were Considered Scripture During His Lifetime

The final point is that the New Testament recognized Paul's writing as Scripture. Peter wrote:

Our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which some things are hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the rest of the Scriptures (2 Peter 3:15,16).

The writings of Paul complete the New Testament. He was the chosen instrument to explain the meaning of the two comings of Jesus Christ.

Summary

Saul of Tarsus was a great enemy of the church. However he was converted on the road to Damascus while in the midst of persecuting Christians. He became the Apostle Paul - the greatest missionary the church has ever seen.

Paul was given the task of explaining the ministry of Christ to the Gentile (non-Jewish) world.

We find that he received direct revelation from the Lord. Paul also believed his message to be divine. The Apostle Peter confirmed Paul's words as Scripture. He was God's chosen instrument to reveal much about the central truths of the Christian faith. Paul also explained the necessity of the two comings of Christ."

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_1242.cfm
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 9:05 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

I am not quarreling; I am simply defending the truth and pointing out very erroneous speculations that may not please people.


Yes you are.

You chose to hijack this thread.

Wasn't there a petition some years ago amongst many posters here to have you banned from posting in general and confined to the Unorthodox forum because of your heretical and apostate beliefs???

You are not defending any truth here.

You are in fact an enemy of truth.

The "truth", is that the Holy Bible consists of 66 books which are all considered, "God Breathed". Christians everywhere adhere to this basic tenant of the faith.

You however are hell bent over the years on attempting to discredit the Apostle Paul and fully 1/3rd of the New Testament which he under the influence of the Holy Spirit authored.

Peter also acknowledged Paul's authority, as well as Paul's writings (2 Peter 3:15-16)

Paul wrote that those who choose to disobey his writings should be disciplined by the local Church: (2 Thessalonians 3:14, 2 Corinthians 13:2-3, 1 Corinthians 14:37,38).

Which country in the world is finding pretext to indulge in war for their benefits? Remember Vietnam? No lessons from that? Is USA an international police?


Obviously you are completely out of touch with world history and have instead allowed yourself to be the victim of government propaganda somewhere along the way.

The USA does not, "indulge in wars for their benefit".

Quite the contrary!

Most often they have had to go to War in order to "benefit others".

Why?

Because that's the way the US is, freedom loving, standing for Justice of the oppressed, etc.

And we do this because we are basically a Christian Nation with Christian principles.

Very few other Nations can make that claim as a whole.

The reason the USA went to War in Vietnam was because of Communist oppression.

Remember it was the North Vietnamese, who were Communists, who we fought against, as well as their "communist allies" to the north, China & the USSR.

Communism is an ATHEIST organization and ideology. They do not believe in God nor acknowledge him as their ruler. Communists believe THEY are God!

I encourage you to watch some documentaries on YouTube concerning North Korea and you will see how evil, satanic, sordid, and twisted an ideology it is.

It is NOT Christian!

If the world were to just sit back and do nothing about the spread of communism we would all be living under communism today.

In case you don't know communism has killed more innocent people than any other entity on the face of the planet. And all during the last 100 years or less.

It is the same reason whey we MUST fight against North Korea's current ideology and regime.

America goes to War to FREE people from such brutal regimes, Nazi Germany was another example, although they were not communist, they were basically atheists also, totally void of God.

It is estimated communism has murdered about 90,000,000 MILLION people during the last 100 years since it has existed. Communism has killed far more people than Nazi Germany ever did.

Here is a 2 hour documentary on communism, complete with real live war footage, and atrocities by communists:

The Bloody History of Communism Full

https://youtu.be/3pzMHD0F4yQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

The USA fought a "cold war" with the USSR for decades and in the end we finally won without having to fire a shot.

The world came very close to Nuclear Armageddon a few times during that period due to a few mistakes on both sides. Most of the world doesn't even know just how close those calls were! I just found out about some of them recently after watching some documentaries.

The truth is many Countries have US Military bases of some sort there because they ASKED us to be there! To protect them from various entities.

We are not there because of any imperialistic reasons like some claim.

We did not annihilate those countries, although the US could easily do that in most cases. Instead we liberated them.

Japan was on the verge of being annihilated because they chose to declare war on the US when bombing Pearl Harbor.

We answered their call, they surrendered, signed those surrender documents on the USS Battleship Missouri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Missouri_(BB-63) and my Grand Uncle carried those very documents and personally stored them in the US National Archives for preservation.

Here is the surrender document which my Grand Uncle placed in the National Archives at their website:

https://www.archivesfoundation.org/documents/japanese-instrument-surrender-1945/

The reason the USA fights these Godless regimes is because they HAVE to!

Left unchecked, many of them would soon take over and over run the world!

The latest threat today is from the muslims, who we have been forced to fight since they declared war on us.

Thank GOD you are not in charge of National Defense!

You would succeed in getting us all tortured, all our Women raped, and all of us killed with your pacifistic nonsense!
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 9:14 PM     
The Gospel is not what, "we do for God".

The Gospel is what, "God has done for us"!

That's WHY we boast about the Lord!

That's WHY we are overjoyed about him and have confidence in him.

Because we KNOW what he has DONE for us! :bowdown::party::bowdown:
No. 33     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 9:22 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Have you found the word 'Bible' in the Bible? You know what Jesus thinks of you? Another tall claim?


The word, "Bible" simply means, "Books" or, "Collection of Books".

In other words, "The Holy Books".


How Did The Bible Get Its Name? What Does The Word Bible Mean?

by Jack Wellman · Print Print · Email Email

"How did the Bible become known as the Bible? Where did this name come from and what is the meaning of the word “Bible?”

Greek Word for Bible

It might seem strange that the word “Bible” is not in the Bible but the inference of the Bible is there when the words “Scripture,” “The Word of the Lord” or “Thus says the Lord” occur and that is over one thousand times. By this enormous amount of references to Scripture as the Word of God, we know that all Scripture is God-breathed (2 Tim3:16) and its source is from the Spirit of God (2 Pet 1:21). The English word “Bible” is from the Greek word “Byblos” and the Latin “biblia” and both mean “books.” These “books” are a collection of writings constituting the sacred text of Scripture. These books are collectively referred to as the Bible and include the Book of Genesis all the way to the Book of Revelation. These books of the Bible are what God calls “the Word of God” or “Scripture” and include “Thus says the Lord.”.....

Read more: https://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/how-did-the-bible-get-its-name-what-does-the-word-bible-mean/


And yes, I DO know what Jesus thinks of me...READ THE BOOK!!! :yeahthat:
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 9:28 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

CAsandie wrote:

You are just offering off topic personal attack, a lack of respect and quarreling here, Devaprakash. It has no resemblance of teaching or kindness as is of the Spirit.

Ignoring and moving on.


So you think sycophancy is desirable at the expense of truth! Consequently, you are against Jesus who used whip and condemned the so called religious people of His day!

I know, people ignore to their own peril. I have done my duty. I am not here to please people like what Paul did compromising with the words of Jesus. :headbang:



Your comment I highlighted in red says it all.

You obviously do not believe Paul was chosen by God and that the 13-14 books he wrote of the New Testament were inspired by Jesus.

And you obviously disrespect him, lol.

Us Christians however believe all 66 books of the Bible are God breathed and that the Apostle Paul was one of the most important founding fathers of the early Church.

Somewhere along the way, you have succumbed to heretical beliefs.

Probably stemming from Hindu roots in your culture or something, which is a stumbling block to you.
No. 35     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 9:42 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?



The Christian life incidentally is lived by allowing Jesus to live and work in us.

The Christian life is not lived by our own power, merit, righteousness, holiness, or good works.

Jesus does the work!

Our job is to yield to his will!
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 9:49 PM     
Getting back on topic here...

The Nike Hercules was eventually planted all over the world in numerous NATO countries to protect against Soviet aggression.

In all over 25,000 Nike Hercules were built!:icon_eek:

Almost all of them here in the USA were Nuclear tipped!

The ones sent to other countries outside the USA usually had conventional explosives on them. (No nukes).

The name "Nike" came from Greek Mythology and meant, "Goddess of Victory"

Project Nike:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Nike


Nike missile family on display at Redstone Arsenal, Alabama. From left to right,

MIM-14 Nike Hercules,
MIM-23 Hawk (front),
MGM-29 Sergeant (back),
LIM-49 Spartan,
MGM-31 Pershing,
MGM-18 Lacrosse,
MIM-3 Nike Ajax

Here is a Map of where all the Nike Missile bases were located in the USA:

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 9:52 PM     
Although most Nike Missile bases have disappeared you can still see the missiles as historical pieces at the following locations!

Missiles

A Nike Zeus is on display at the Space Camp in Huntsville, Alabama.[citation needed]
Two Nike Ajax are on display at Camp Navajo Army Depot in Bellemont, Arizona.
A Nike Ajax, Nike Hercules, and Nike Zeus are on display at the Redstone Arsenal in Alabama.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax and Nike Hercules are on display at the Royal Museum of the Army and Military History in Brussels, Belgium.[citation needed]
A Nike missile is on display at Camp San Luis Obispo near Morro Bay, California.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax and a Nike Hercules are on display at the Peterson Air and Space Museum in Colorado Springs, Colorado.[citation needed]
Two Nike Ajax and a Hercules are on display at the Cape Canaveral Space & Missile Museum in Cape Canaveral, Florida.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax is on display at the War Museum in Athens, Greece.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax and Hercules are on display in front of the American Legion post in Cedar Lake, Indiana.[citation needed]
A Nike missile is on display at the Combat Air Museum in Topeka, Kansas.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax is on display in Marion, Kentucky.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax and Hercules are on display at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in Aberdeen, Maryland.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax is on display in front of the VFW post in Hancock, Maryland.[citation needed]
Two Nike Ajax and a Hercules are on display at a small Cold War museum in Ft. Meade, Maryland.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax and Hercules are on display at the Dutch Air Force Museum in Soesterberg Air Base.[10]
A Nike Ajax is on display at The Space Center in Alamagordo, New Mexico.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax is on display near the administrative buildings at the former Nike site in Rustan, about 40 km to the southwest of Oslo, Norway.[citation needed]
Two Nike Ajax and a Nike Hercules are on display near the Bataan Building at Camp Perry, near Port Clinton, Ohio.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax is on display near the Toledo Rockets Glass Bowl Stadium on the campus of the University of Toledo in Toledo, Ohio.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax is displayed in front of an Army Surplus store located near the Letterkenny Army Depot in Pennsylvania.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax and Hercules are on display at the Pennsylvania National Guard Department of Military Arts building at Fort Indiantown Gap, Pennsylvania.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax and Hercules are on display at the Air Power Park in Hampton, Virginia.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax missile cutaway, as well as a complete Nike Ajax missile are on display at the Udvar-Hazy Center of the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum at Washington Dulles International Airport, in Chantilly, Virginia.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax and Nike Hercules are on display in the Berryman War Memorial Park in Bridgeport, Washington.[citation needed]
A Nike Hercules and transport trailer are on display at the Ft. Lewis Military Museum in Tacoma, Washington.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax on its launcher is on display outside an American Legion hall in Okauchee Lake, Wisconsin.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax on its transporter (trailer) is on display outside a public storage (former site MS-20) facility in Roberts, Wisconsin. http://www.nikestorage.com/history-of-the-site/
A Nike Ajax is on display in front of the American Legion Post in Waynesboro, Pennsylvania.[citation needed]
A Nike Hercules is on display outside the Royal Norwegian Air Force's training centre at Kjevik, Norway.[citation needed]
A Nike Hercules and what seems to be the tip of a Nike Ajax is on display at Trøgstad Fort, about 45 km to the southeast of Oslo, Norway.[citation needed]
A Nike Hercules is on display at Stævnsfortet, about 50 km south of Copenhagen.[citation needed]
A Nike Hercules is on display in a park in St. Bonifacius, Minnesota.[citation needed]
A Nike Hercules is on display in Young Patriot's Park(Formally Nike base D-54) in Riverview, Michigan.[citation needed]
A Nike Ajax missile is on display at Richard Montgomery High School in Rockville, Maryland.[11]
A Nike Ajax and Hercules on launchers and an additional Nike Ajax and Hercules missile without launchers are on display at the Air Defense Artillery Museum. Ft. Bliss, Texas.
No. 38     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 10:45 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Don't you know that he was constantly troubled by a messenger of Satan?


I am well acquainted with the subject of Paul's thorn in the flesh, and his messenger of satan.

That thorn was not a physical ailment but, "Religious Persecution".

Kind of like what you do here on MC to Christians...

An excellent study on the subject:

Teaching article:

http://www.awmi.net/reading/teaching-articles/pauls_thorn/

Downloadable MP3 Audio: http://www.awmi.net/audio/audio-teachings/#/awm_1036b_thorn.mp3

Video: http://www.awmi.net/video/tv/#/2010/week14


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By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 10:46 PM     
the power is still controlled by the
deepstate bushclintonbama tribe-'the dying NWO'

all evidenced by the deep state's Backstabbing
of the Trumpy in Syria by allowing
al'CIA'da/isis/mossad controlled rebels
free passage into saudi arabia to help
Dopey Prince followers destabilize MBS/Prince Salman's Purge
and takeover of House of Saud.


No. 40     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 11:19 PM     
Also it wasn't the US Military who lost the war in Vietnam.

It was the Politicians at home who lost it.
No. 41     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 11:31 PM     
Some other interesting facts.

Many of the Nike Hercules bases were installed on Army National Guard bases, and the National Guard troops there was who operated them!

The Nike Hercules Nukes were the only atomic bombs ever under the control of the National Guard.
No. 42     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 15, 2017 at 11:33 PM     
There are basically 3 Nike bases left that are preserved or partially preserved that you can tour:

Bases
Long-exposure multiple-sequence photograph of a Nike-Hercules missile being erected for a simulated launch at SF-88L in 2012.

The best preserved Nike installation is site SF88L located in the Marin Headlands just west of the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, California. The site is a museum, and contains the missile bunkers, and control area, as well as period uniforms and vehicles that would have operated at the site. The site has been preserved in the condition it was in at the time it was decommissioned in 1974. The site began as a Nike Ajax base and was later converted to Nike Hercules. Three Nike Hercules are displayed in the original bunkers. The base is open to the public, including demonstrations of the operational missile lift from the bunker to the surface. Hours and tours vary during the year, but are usually held on Saturdays. Additional days may be added during the summer and holidays.[6]

The second best preserved Nike installation is site NY-56 at Fort Hancock in Sandy Hook, New Jersey. The site has been restored and contains the original missile bunkers, as well as three Nike Ajax and a Nike Hercules on display. Each fall the base hold a Cold War Day. Tours one weekend a month from April to October. The site is on the National Register of Historic Places. It is open to the public. Tours are conducted by members of the Fort Hancock Nike Association.[7]

HM69 in Everglades National Park has a Nike Hercules restored by George T. Baker Aviation School students. The Nike site is operated by the National Park Service and is open in the winter for guided tours.[8][9]
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By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 12:33 AM     
Looks like yer too chickin shit to talk to anyone.
so this thread is a waste of our time. Appears no one wants to hear
about your endless Faux Fox Fantasy RINO opinion's of US Military Power.

I'll cut to the chase callin it ""Misuse of U.S.Military Assets and Power""

the ""OSS' MIC controlled HW Bush/LBJ""onward to GWBushclintonbama's NWO dynasty of control freaks & has been in control undermining us since 1957.

No. 44     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 12:49 AM     
Why the USA set up so many Military bases around the world...

Because communisim was on the march that's why.

Stalin had already proved he was a mass murderer having killed as many as 20-60,000,000 of his own people including many in foreign countries such as Poland and East Germany as well as others. decades before and the US Government as well as European Countries were well away of that fact.

And the USA and NATO Allied Countries were not about to let that happen to them. They knew he was a killer.

Not only did they have the Soviet Communists to contend with, but the Chinese communists as well, who also murdered nillions of people under

Make no mistake about it the reason the USA installed all those Military bases around the world was BECAUSE of the threat of Soviet aggression.

Introducing the 2nd biggest mass murderer in world History. Stalin was responsible for far more Murders than even Hitler was.



"...Cold War policy: 1947–1950

"In the aftermath of the Second World War, the British Empire declined, leaving the US and USSR as the dominant world powers.[557] Tensions among these former Allies grew,[529] resulting in the Cold War.[558]

Although publicly referring to what Stalin regarded as the aggressive nature of the British and U.S. governments, he thought it unlikely that a war with them would be imminent, believing that several decades of peace was likely.[559]

He nevertheless secretly intensified Soviet research into nuclear weaponry (by having 2 communist spies at Oak Ridge while we were developing the Atom bomb. That's how the USSR got it in the first place, from us!), intent on creating an atom bomb.[528]

He personally took a keen interest in the development of the weapon.[560] In August 1949, the bomb was successfully tested in the deserts outside Semipalatinsk in Kazakhstan.[561]

Stalin also initiated a new military build-up; the Soviet army was expanded from 2.9 million soldiers, as it stood in 1949, to 5.8 million by 1953.[562]

The US began pushing its interests on every continent, acquiring air force bases in Africa and Asia and ensuring pro-U.S. regimes took power across Latin America.[563]

It launched the Marshall Plan in June 1947, with which it sought to undermine Soviet hegemony in eastern Europe. The US also offered financial assistance as part of the Marshall Plan on the condition that they opened their markets to trade, aware that the Soviets would never agree.[564]

The Allies demanded that Stalin withdraw the Red Army from northern Iran, which he did in April 1947.[565]

Stalin also tried to maximise Soviet influence on the world stage, unsuccessfully pushing for Libya—recently liberated from Italian occupation—to become a Soviet protectorate.[566]

He sent Molotov as his representative to San Francisco to take part in negotiations to form the United Nations, insisting that the Soviets have a place on the Security Council.[558]

In April 1949, the Western powers established the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO), an international military alliance of capitalist countries.[567] Within Western countries, Stalin was increasingly portrayed as the "most evil dictator alive" and compared to Hitler.[568]..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

And he was too, he murdered more people than Hitler ever did. Although the Nazi's were often more gruesome in "how" they murdered.

No. 45     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 1:00 AM     
Introducing the biggest mass murderer in world history. No it wasn't Hitler or Stalin even.

It was Mao Zedong.

It is estimated he was responsible for the deaths of up to 65,000,000 of his own people.

(Historical scholars are widely varied on Stalin's figures)



The Legacy of Mao Zedong is Mass Murder

http://www.heritage.org/asia/commentary/the-legacy-mao-zedong-mass-murder
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 1:07 AM     
Many people don't know that Stalin hated Jews and murdered millions of them also.

How Stalin, the ‘breaker of nations,’ hated, murdered Jews

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2003/aug/16/20030816-105043-6895r/

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By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 1:23 AM     
Whats yer Point? Jim Marrs who taught at UNT would never
spew endless nonsense like this; neither would Jim Garrison
or Carlos Marcello who by the way was very direct and to the point.
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By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 6:58 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Pity! Paul-mania!

2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

No use in speculations and blowing out disproportionately the speculations of Paul! :headbang:


You are speaking of yourself here.

It is YOU who do not understand the Gospel as well as the Apostle Paul's writings in the New Testament.

You have made it well known over the years here on MC that you do not believe Paul's writings to be the inspired Word Of God.

Christians however believe ALL 66 books of the Bible to be the written word of God, not just the Old Testament and a small fraction of the New testament like you do.

The Apostle Paul wrote 13 to possibly 14 books of the New Testament, much more so than any other Author. Almost 1/3 of the New Testament.

To discredit those 13 books like you do (as well as Paul) makes you an enemy of Christ and an Apostate.


How much of the New Testament was written by Paul?

1 minute read
Contents

The New Testament and the Apostle Paul
The numbers

A Christian pastor said, I’ve never liked Paul. What are his epistles? They are just letters to people. We only have the one side of them, so we have to guess what he’s talking about anyway.

If he believes what he’s saying, this man just placed himself above the Scriptures, teaching something seemingly in violation of John 1.1-3, 2 Timothy 3.16, and especially James 4:11 which reads,

Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of [his] brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.(James 4:11)

The New Testament and the Apostle Paul

These professing Christians who are so quick to throw out and malign the Apostle Paul are everywhere, in every supposedly conservative Bible-believing denomination. It got me wondering, just how much of the New Testament are they pooh-poohing?

Here’s the answer: 28 percent of the New Testament was written by the Apostle Paul.

That’s a big chunk of the Bible to be throwing in the garbage. Another gospel? Maybe so. What do you think?

The numbers

How much of the New Testament scriptures were written by the Apostle Paul?

Based on the word counts of the 1769 edition of KJV from Bible stats, here’s how it works out:

Paul wrote 50190/179011 or 28% of the NT.
Book Words
Romans 9422 words
1 Corinthians 9462 words
2 Corinthians 6046 words
Galatians 3084 words
Ephesians 3022 words
Philippians 2183 words
Colossians 1979 words
1 Thessalonians 1837 words
2 Thessalonians 1022 words
1 Timothy 2244 words
2 Timothy 1666 words
Titus 896 words
Philemon 430 words
Hebrews 6897 words

Total words written by Paul: 50,190 words Total words in the New Testament: 179,011

So Paul wrote 50190/179011 or 28% of the NT."

http://www.alecsatin.com/ever-wonder/how-much-of-the-new-testament-was-written-by-paul/

Case closed!


People love sugar candies offered to ungodly people by crafty Paul with his assumptions over the words of Jesus that have eternal life! Paul had no inkling of the preaching of Jesus! His gospel was Jesus was born of a woman (virgin doubtful), died and has risen again. No wonder he had to assume authority by posing himself as an apostle!

Most unfortunate thing is that unqualified people further distort his writings meant for specific people for dubious theology now! :thumb_dn:
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By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 7:01 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Pity! Paul-mania!

No use in speculations and blowing out disproportionately the speculations of Paul! :headbang:


There is just one problem with your above comment.

What the Apostle Paul wrote was not his own doing.

He acted, spoke, and wrote under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

His writings are not, "speculation".

They are part of the New Testament.

Anyone who believes otherwise is an enemy of Christ and his work.


You are claiming what Paul himself did not claim! Don't you know that he was constantly troubled by a messenger of Satan? Did he not also write that he was writing on his own, not according to directive of the Lord? You seem to be blind to the truth! :headbang:


You're way out in left field.

2 issues here I will address. The first one being your claim that Paul's writings are not inspired by the Lord.

The 2nd issue concerning the messenger of satan which was troubling Paul. I will address in another post later in this thread.

Read this:

Why Are the Writings of the Apostle Paul Considered to Be Divinely Authoritative?

"The apostles not only accepted the Old Testament and Jesus' Word's as authoritative, they also began to see that their writings were on the same authoritative level. Being led by the Holy Spirit, they believed they were speaking for Christ. The Apostle Paul, for example, wrote thirteen letters that have been recognized as Holy Scripture by the Christian church. Who was this man? What evidence do we have to call Paul's writings Scripture?

Who Was Paul?

We have no physical description of Saul of Tarsus given to us in Scripture. Early tradition says that he was a small man with a bald head. No matter what he looked liked, his writings have become part of the Word of God as found in the New Testament.

He was born Saul of Tarsus - a city which is in modern-day Turkey. Tarsus had been part of the Greek world for some time. Although the family of Saul were Jews, Saul himself was a Roman citizen.

While still a young man Saul traveled to Jerusalem to train as a Rabbi. In Jerusalem, he became acquainted with a group of people who believed Jesus of Nazareth to be the Messiah. Saul relentlessly persecuted these people while all the time thinking that he was serving God.
The Conversion Of Saul Of Tarsus

While heading for Damascus to further jail believers in Jesus, Saul had a blinding vision that knocked him to the ground. The voice that spoke to Saul identified Himself as Jesus of Nazareth - the one whom he had been persecuting. Thus began one of the great turnarounds in history. The greatest antagonist of the Christian faith - Saul of Tarsus - became its greatest missionary - the Apostle Paul. During his lifetime he penned thirteen different works that have become part of the New Testament. It is impossible to overestimate the influence that Paul played in the spread of the Christian faith.

He Believed His Message To Be Divine

The first thing that must be noticed is that Paul believed his message to be divine. He wrote.

If anyone thinks himself to be a prophet or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things which I write to you are the commandments of the Lord (1 Corinthians 14:37).

He wrote to the church at Thessalonica.

And for this reason we also constantly thank God that when you received from us the word of God's message, you accepted it not as the word of men, but for what it really is, the word of God, which also performs its work in you who believe (1 Thessalonians 2:13).

Paul Spoke Of My Gospel

Paul spoke of "my gospel." He said the preaching of Jesus Christ had been kept secret but now had been revealed.

Now to him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past, but now is manifested, and by the Scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the eternal God, has been made known to all the nations, leading to obedience of faith (Romans 16:25,26).

However, believing to have a divine message does not make it so. What evidence do we have of this message having been sent from God?

Paul Received Direct Revelation From The Lord

The Bible teaches that Paul received direct revelation from God. Paul wrote.

Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? (1 Corinthians 9:1).

After an encounter with the ascended Jesus on the Damascus road, Paul had it explained by Ananias:

The God of our fathers has chosen you that you should know his will, and see the Just One, and hear the voice of his mouth. For you will be his witness to all men of what you have seen and heard (Acts 22:14,15).

Disobeying His Writings Brings Discipline

Paul said that anyone who disobeyed his writings was to be disciplined by the local church. He wrote.

If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of that person and do not associate with him, so that he will be put to shame (2 Thessalonians 3:14).

To the Corinthians he wrote.

I already gave you a warning when I was with you the second time. I now repeat it while absent: On my return I will not spare those who sinned earlier or any of the others, since you are demanding proof that Christ is speaking through me. He is not weak in dealing with you, but is powerful among you (2 Corinthians 13:2-3).

Paul also wrote.

If anybody thinks he is a prophet or spiritually gifted, let him acknowledge that what I am writing to you is the Lord's command. If he ignores this, he himself will be ignored (1 Corinthians 14:37,38).

His Writings Were Considered Scripture During His Lifetime

The final point is that the New Testament recognized Paul's writing as Scripture. Peter wrote:

Our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which some things are hard to understand, which those who are untaught and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the rest of the Scriptures (2 Peter 3:15,16).

The writings of Paul complete the New Testament. He was the chosen instrument to explain the meaning of the two comings of Jesus Christ.

Summary

Saul of Tarsus was a great enemy of the church. However he was converted on the road to Damascus while in the midst of persecuting Christians. He became the Apostle Paul - the greatest missionary the church has ever seen.

Paul was given the task of explaining the ministry of Christ to the Gentile (non-Jewish) world.

We find that he received direct revelation from the Lord. Paul also believed his message to be divine. The Apostle Peter confirmed Paul's words as Scripture. He was God's chosen instrument to reveal much about the central truths of the Christian faith. Paul also explained the necessity of the two comings of Christ."

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_1242.cfm


All one sided stuff. Doesn't deserve serious scrutiny! :BlahBlah:
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By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 7:04 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

I am not quarreling; I am simply defending the truth and pointing out very erroneous speculations that may not please people.


Yes you are.

You chose to hijack this thread.

Wasn't there a petition some years ago amongst many posters here to have you banned from posting in general and confined to the Unorthodox forum because of your heretical and apostate beliefs???

You are not defending any truth here.

You are in fact an enemy of truth.

The "truth", is that the Holy Bible consists of 66 books which are all considered, "God Breathed". Christians everywhere adhere to this basic tenant of the faith.

You however are hell bent over the years on attempting to discredit the Apostle Paul and fully 1/3rd of the New Testament which he under the influence of the Holy Spirit authored.

Peter also acknowledged Paul's authority, as well as Paul's writings (2 Peter 3:15-16)

Paul wrote that those who choose to disobey his writings should be disciplined by the local Church: (2 Thessalonians 3:14, 2 Corinthians 13:2-3, 1 Corinthians 14:37,38).

Which country in the world is finding pretext to indulge in war for their benefits? Remember Vietnam? No lessons from that? Is USA an international police?


Obviously you are completely out of touch with world history and have instead allowed yourself to be the victim of government propaganda somewhere along the way.

The USA does not, "indulge in wars for their benefit".

Quite the contrary!

Most often they have had to go to War in order to "benefit others".

Why?

Because that's the way the US is, freedom loving, standing for Justice of the oppressed, etc.

And we do this because we are basically a Christian Nation with Christian principles.

Very few other Nations can make that claim as a whole.

The reason the USA went to War in Vietnam was because of Communist oppression.

Remember it was the North Vietnamese, who were Communists, who we fought against, as well as their "communist allies" to the north, China & the USSR.

Communism is an ATHEIST organization and ideology. They do not believe in God nor acknowledge him as their ruler. Communists believe THEY are God!

I encourage you to watch some documentaries on YouTube concerning North Korea and you will see how evil, satanic, sordid, and twisted an ideology it is.

It is NOT Christian!

If the world were to just sit back and do nothing about the spread of communism we would all be living under communism today.

In case you don't know communism has killed more innocent people than any other entity on the face of the planet. And all during the last 100 years or less.

It is the same reason whey we MUST fight against North Korea's current ideology and regime.

America goes to War to FREE people from such brutal regimes, Nazi Germany was another example, although they were not communist, they were basically atheists also, totally void of God.

It is estimated communism has murdered about 90,000,000 MILLION people during the last 100 years since it has existed. Communism has killed far more people than Nazi Germany ever did.

Here is a 2 hour documentary on communism, complete with real live war footage, and atrocities by communists:

The Bloody History of Communism Full

https://youtu.be/3pzMHD0F4yQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

The USA fought a "cold war" with the USSR for decades and in the end we finally won without having to fire a shot.

The world came very close to Nuclear Armageddon a few times during that period due to a few mistakes on both sides. Most of the world doesn't even know just how close those calls were! I just found out about some of them recently after watching some documentaries.

The truth is many Countries have US Military bases of some sort there because they ASKED us to be there! To protect them from various entities.

We are not there because of any imperialistic reasons like some claim.

We did not annihilate those countries, although the US could easily do that in most cases. Instead we liberated them.

Japan was on the verge of being annihilated because they chose to declare war on the US when bombing Pearl Harbor.

We answered their call, they surrendered, signed those surrender documents on the USS Battleship Missouri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Missouri_(BB-63) and my Grand Uncle carried those very documents and personally stored them in the US National Archives for preservation.

Here is the surrender document which my Grand Uncle placed in the National Archives at their website:

https://www.archivesfoundation.org/documents/japanese-instrument-surrender-1945/

The reason the USA fights these Godless regimes is because they HAVE to!

Left unchecked, many of them would soon take over and over run the world!

The latest threat today is from the muslims, who we have been forced to fight since they declared war on us.

Thank GOD you are not in charge of National Defense!

You would succeed in getting us all tortured, all our Women raped, and all of us killed with your pacifistic nonsense!


Sorry, you have no inkling of truth! Skin is more important for you than salvation through Jesus' words!
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By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 7:06 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Don't you know that he was constantly troubled by a messenger of Satan?


I am well acquainted with the subject of Paul's thorn in the flesh, and his messenger of satan.

That thorn was not a physical ailment but, "Religious Persecution".

Kind of like what you do here on MC to Christians...

An excellent study on the subject:

Teaching article:

http://www.awmi.net/reading/teaching-articles/pauls_thorn/

Downloadable MP3 Audio: http://www.awmi.net/audio/audio-teachings/#/awm_1036b_thorn.mp3

Video: http://www.awmi.net/video/tv/#/2010/week14




Spiritually empty vessel makes much noise! :naanaa:
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By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 7:11 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Matthew 7
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?



The Christian life incidentally is lived by allowing Jesus to live and work in us.

The Christian life is not lived by our own power, merit, righteousness, holiness, or good works.

Jesus does the work!

Our job is to yield to his will!


So according to you war mongering is yielding to Jesus' will? Nothing is more farther than this!:no-no:
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By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 7:16 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

CAsandie wrote:

You are just offering off topic personal attack, a lack of respect and quarreling here, Devaprakash. It has no resemblance of teaching or kindness as is of the Spirit.

Ignoring and moving on.


So you think sycophancy is desirable at the expense of truth! Consequently, you are against Jesus who used whip and condemned the so called religious people of His day!

I know, people ignore to their own peril. I have done my duty. I am not here to please people like what Paul did compromising with the words of Jesus. :headbang:



Your comment I highlighted in red says it all.

You obviously do not believe Paul was chosen by God and that the 13-14 books he wrote of the New Testament were inspired by Jesus.

And you obviously disrespect him, lol.

Us Christians however believe all 66 books of the Bible are God breathed and that the Apostle Paul was one of the most important founding fathers of the early Church.

Somewhere along the way, you have succumbed to heretical beliefs.

Probably stemming from Hindu roots in your culture or something, which is a stumbling block to you.


Jesus never chose Paul as an apostle. That was his typical self-claim. Jerusalem Church is the beginning, not misdirected churches (most of them) of Gentiles that were started on the propaganda of Paul.

Sorry, your history doesn't go back to Jesus!
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By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 7:19 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Have you found the word 'Bible' in the Bible? You know what Jesus thinks of you? Another tall claim?


The word, "Bible" simply means, "Books" or, "Collection of Books".

In other words, "The Holy Books".


How Did The Bible Get Its Name? What Does The Word Bible Mean?

by Jack Wellman · Print Print · Email Email

"How did the Bible become known as the Bible? Where did this name come from and what is the meaning of the word “Bible?”

Greek Word for Bible

It might seem strange that the word “Bible” is not in the Bible but the inference of the Bible is there when the words “Scripture,” “The Word of the Lord” or “Thus says the Lord” occur and that is over one thousand times. By this enormous amount of references to Scripture as the Word of God, we know that all Scripture is God-breathed (2 Tim3:16) and its source is from the Spirit of God (2 Pet 1:21). The English word “Bible” is from the Greek word “Byblos” and the Latin “biblia” and both mean “books.” These “books” are a collection of writings constituting the sacred text of Scripture. These books are collectively referred to as the Bible and include the Book of Genesis all the way to the Book of Revelation. These books of the Bible are what God calls “the Word of God” or “Scripture” and include “Thus says the Lord.”.....

Read more: https://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/how-did-the-bible-get-its-name-what-does-the-word-bible-mean/


And yes, I DO know what Jesus thinks of me...READ THE BOOK!!! :yeahthat:


Bible is no use without Jesus' words :twocents:
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By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 7:21 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

I am not quarreling; I am simply defending the truth and pointing out very erroneous speculations that may not please people.


Yes you are.

You chose to hijack this thread.

Wasn't there a petition some years ago amongst many posters here to have you banned from posting in general and confined to the Unorthodox forum because of your heretical and apostate beliefs???

You are not defending any truth here.

You are in fact an enemy of truth.

The "truth", is that the Holy Bible consists of 66 books which are all considered, "God Breathed". Christians everywhere adhere to this basic tenant of the faith.

You however are hell bent over the years on attempting to discredit the Apostle Paul and fully 1/3rd of the New Testament which he under the influence of the Holy Spirit authored.

Peter also acknowledged Paul's authority, as well as Paul's writings (2 Peter 3:15-16)

Paul wrote that those who choose to disobey his writings should be disciplined by the local Church: (2 Thessalonians 3:14, 2 Corinthians 13:2-3, 1 Corinthians 14:37,38).

Which country in the world is finding pretext to indulge in war for their benefits? Remember Vietnam? No lessons from that? Is USA an international police?


Obviously you are completely out of touch with world history and have instead allowed yourself to be the victim of government propaganda somewhere along the way.

The USA does not, "indulge in wars for their benefit".

Quite the contrary!

Most often they have had to go to War in order to "benefit others".

Why?

Because that's the way the US is, freedom loving, standing for Justice of the oppressed, etc.

And we do this because we are basically a Christian Nation with Christian principles.

Very few other Nations can make that claim as a whole.

The reason the USA went to War in Vietnam was because of Communist oppression.

Remember it was the North Vietnamese, who were Communists, who we fought against, as well as their "communist allies" to the north, China & the USSR.

Communism is an ATHEIST organization and ideology. They do not believe in God nor acknowledge him as their ruler. Communists believe THEY are God!

I encourage you to watch some documentaries on YouTube concerning North Korea and you will see how evil, satanic, sordid, and twisted an ideology it is.

It is NOT Christian!

If the world were to just sit back and do nothing about the spread of communism we would all be living under communism today.

In case you don't know communism has killed more innocent people than any other entity on the face of the planet. And all during the last 100 years or less.

It is the same reason whey we MUST fight against North Korea's current ideology and regime.

America goes to War to FREE people from such brutal regimes, Nazi Germany was another example, although they were not communist, they were basically atheists also, totally void of God.

It is estimated communism has murdered about 90,000,000 MILLION people during the last 100 years since it has existed. Communism has killed far more people than Nazi Germany ever did.

Here is a 2 hour documentary on communism, complete with real live war footage, and atrocities by communists:

The Bloody History of Communism Full

https://youtu.be/3pzMHD0F4yQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

The USA fought a "cold war" with the USSR for decades and in the end we finally won without having to fire a shot.

The world came very close to Nuclear Armageddon a few times during that period due to a few mistakes on both sides. Most of the world doesn't even know just how close those calls were! I just found out about some of them recently after watching some documentaries.

The truth is many Countries have US Military bases of some sort there because they ASKED us to be there! To protect them from various entities.

We are not there because of any imperialistic reasons like some claim.

We did not annihilate those countries, although the US could easily do that in most cases. Instead we liberated them.

Japan was on the verge of being annihilated because they chose to declare war on the US when bombing Pearl Harbor.

We answered their call, they surrendered, signed those surrender documents on the USS Battleship Missouri https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Missouri_(BB-63) and my Grand Uncle carried those very documents and personally stored them in the US National Archives for preservation.

Here is the surrender document which my Grand Uncle placed in the National Archives at their website:

https://www.archivesfoundation.org/documents/japanese-instrument-surrender-1945/

The reason the USA fights these Godless regimes is because they HAVE to!

Left unchecked, many of them would soon take over and over run the world!

The latest threat today is from the muslims, who we have been forced to fight since they declared war on us.

Thank GOD you are not in charge of National Defense!

You would succeed in getting us all tortured, all our Women raped, and all of us killed with your pacifistic nonsense!


Spirituality has nothing to do with neither communism nor capitalism!
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 8:48 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

People love sugar candies offered to ungodly people by crafty Paul with his assumptions over the words of Jesus that have eternal life! Paul had no inkling of the preaching of Jesus! His gospel was Jesus was born of a woman (virgin doubtful), died and has risen again. No wonder he had to assume authority by posing himself as an apostle!

Most unfortunate thing is that unqualified people further distort his writings meant for specific people for dubious theology now! :thumb_dn:


Yep you just proved to all of us here you are not a Christian.

Your above comment says you do not believe Jesus was born of a Virgin.

And that Paul was not chosen by God and did his will.

The question is, since you are clearly not a Christian by your own statements what are you doing here on a Christian website if not to undermine it?

You do realize that in order to be a part of this website and post here on the forums you must acknowledge ALL 66 books as being the inspired word of God, and that Jesus was born of a Virgin.

What does all your cultic beliefs make you then?

It makes you an anti-christ that's what it makes you.

You are nothing more than a wolf here in an attempt to undermine and subvert Christianity.
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 8:58 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Sorry, you have no inkling of truth! Skin is more important for you than salvation through Jesus' words!


Once again you are no different than the Pharisees and a devil.

You mock those who have been saved by the blood of Christ and accuse them of not being saved.

Yet it is YOU who are not saved by your very own comments!

You mock Jesus Virgin birth.

You mock the Apostle Paul (as well as the books he wrote) who under inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote almost a full 1/3rd of the New Testament, more books of the Bible than any other Author.

You are only here to undermine Christianity and to attack God's children.

You are here for no other reason.

What religion or cult you practice or are involved in only the devil knows.

Likely some offshoot or variant of Hinduism.

I am recommending you either be banned from the site or confined only to posting in the unorthodox forum.

You are the enemy of Christ and the Church with your heretical garbage.
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 9:02 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Spiritually empty vessel makes much noise! :naanaa:


I am bought and paid for by the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

I have the Holy Spirit residing and dwelling within me.

And there isn't one single thing you can do about it devil.
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 9:08 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

So according to you war mongering is yielding to Jesus' will? Nothing is more farther than this!:no-no:


You are a total imbecile.

Don't you realize there are evil forces in the world who are hellbent on your and your country's destruction???

Communism is just one of them.

Islam is another.

Tell me how many Indians have muslims massacred over the years in your Country?

And you think it is sinful to protect your fellow neighbor when he is attacked by a murderous muslim?

I certainly wouldn't want you and your idiotic pacifistic garbage as a neighbor.

You'd probably just sit back and watch as your neighbors were slaughtered and butchered and raped.

What does that make you?

It makes you complicit and an enabler in their evil acts that's what it does.

Somewhere along the way, you lost all common sense!
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 9:30 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Jesus never chose Paul as an apostle.


Yes he did, read the Bible until it sinks in.

"And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.

And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,

Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.

And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.

For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.

And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Acts: 22:6-16


That was his typical self-claim. Jerusalem Church is the beginning, not misdirected churches (most of them) of Gentiles that were started on the propaganda of Paul.

Sorry, your history doesn't go back to Jesus!


And yours does?

Please.

We have this record that was left for us...it's called the Holy Bible.

It is quite clear you are an apostate and an enemy of Christ and his work.

You don't even believe the Bible.

Why are you here on MC?

It is apparent you seek to undermine the authority of the Bible, as well as the Apostle Paul's authority.
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 9:31 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Bible is no use without Jesus' words :twocents:


The Bible IS Jesus words!

ALL 66 books of it!
No. 62     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 9:35 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Spirituality has nothing to do with neither communism nor capitalism!


On the contrary communism has EVERYTHING to do with spirituality!

Namely, communism is totally DEVOID of God, the Bible!

Communists are satanists, they believe THEY are God!

I will not be lumping capitalism in with communism like you do however.
No. 63     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 17, 2017 at 12:59 AM     
Wouldn't surprise me if the USA has launched Nukes into space.

Or EMP nukes.

Or maybe a "Satellite Hunter" which can seek out and destroy other satellites.

This latest one is top top secret, so much so that even the branch of Government who owns the payload is secret.

Probably the US Military, and likely Reagan star wars stuff coming to fruition.

SpaceX's Top Secret Zuma Mission Set to Launch

https://www.wired.com/story/spacexs-top-secret-zuma-mission-launches-today/
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By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 18, 2017 at 6:34 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

People love sugar candies offered to ungodly people by crafty Paul with his assumptions over the words of Jesus that have eternal life! Paul had no inkling of the preaching of Jesus! His gospel was Jesus was born of a woman (virgin doubtful), died and has risen again. No wonder he had to assume authority by posing himself as an apostle!

Most unfortunate thing is that unqualified people further distort his writings meant for specific people for dubious theology now! :thumb_dn:


Yep you just proved to all of us here you are not a Christian.

Your above comment says you do not believe Jesus was born of a Virgin.

And that Paul was not chosen by God and did his will.

The question is, since you are clearly not a Christian by your own statements what are you doing here on a Christian website if not to undermine it?

You do realize that in order to be a part of this website and post here on the forums you must acknowledge ALL 66 books as being the inspired word of God, and that Jesus was born of a Virgin.

What does all your cultic beliefs make you then?

It makes you an anti-christ that's what it makes you.

You are nothing more than a wolf here in an attempt to undermine and subvert Christianity.


I am not a nominal Christian. I claim to be a believer in Jesus, His way, life and truth.

Your reply clearly indicates that you have not understood my sarcasm! It is Paul who has not indicated Jesus was born of a virgin.

Truth matters to me, not 66 books of modified, deleted and added bunch of words.
No. 65     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 18, 2017 at 6:38 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Sorry, you have no inkling of truth! Skin is more important for you than salvation through Jesus' words!


Once again you are no different than the Pharisees and a devil.

You mock those who have been saved by the blood of Christ and accuse them of not being saved.

Yet it is YOU who are not saved by your very own comments!

You mock Jesus Virgin birth.

You mock the Apostle Paul (as well as the books he wrote) who under inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote almost a full 1/3rd of the New Testament, more books of the Bible than any other Author.

You are only here to undermine Christianity and to attack God's children.

You are here for no other reason.

What religion or cult you practice or are involved in only the devil knows.

Likely some offshoot or variant of Hinduism.

I am recommending you either be banned from the site or confined only to posting in the unorthodox forum.

You are the enemy of Christ and the Church with your heretical garbage.


So you all claim to be God deciding on our salvation based on self-proclamations of Paul? (!)

You claim appendix to be the main thing. Your appendix on its own leads to appendicitis!
No. 66     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 18, 2017 at 6:40 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Spiritually empty vessel makes much noise! :naanaa:


I am bought and paid for by the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

I have the Holy Spirit residing and dwelling within me.

And there isn't one single thing you can do about it devil.


A tall claim with war heads and ammunition as backpack!
No. 68     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 18, 2017 at 6:43 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

So according to you war mongering is yielding to Jesus' will? Nothing is more farther than this!:no-no:


You are a total imbecile.

Don't you realize there are evil forces in the world who are hellbent on your and your country's destruction???

Communism is just one of them.

Islam is another.

Tell me how many Indians have muslims massacred over the years in your Country?

And you think it is sinful to protect your fellow neighbor when he is attacked by a murderous muslim?

I certainly wouldn't want you and your idiotic pacifistic garbage as a neighbor.

You'd probably just sit back and watch as your neighbors were slaughtered and butchered and raped.

What does that make you?

It makes you complicit and an enabler in their evil acts that's what it does.



Learn from Mennonites, Amish and JWs instead of being a hypocrite looking for an opportunity to wage war to keep your economy going on.
No. 69     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 18, 2017 at 6:45 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Jesus never chose Paul as an apostle.


Yes he did, read the Bible until it sinks in.

"And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.

And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,

Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.

And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.

For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.

And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord." Acts: 22:6-16


That was his typical self-claim. Jerusalem Church is the beginning, not misdirected churches (most of them) of Gentiles that were started on the propaganda of Paul.

Sorry, your history doesn't go back to Jesus!


And yours does?

Please.

We have this record that was left for us...it's called the Holy Bible.

It is quite clear you are an apostate and an enemy of Christ and his work.

You don't even believe the Bible.

Why are you here on MC?

It is apparent you seek to undermine the authority of the Bible, as well as the Apostle Paul's authority.


Did Jesus call Paul an apostle? Show this before all that :BlahBlah:
No. 70     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 18, 2017 at 6:47 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Bible is no use without Jesus' words :twocents:


The Bible IS Jesus words!

ALL 66 books of it!


So even what serpent spoke is Jesus' words! My goodness!
No. 71     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 18, 2017 at 6:50 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Spirituality has nothing to do with neither communism nor capitalism!


On the contrary communism has EVERYTHING to do with spirituality!

Namely, communism is totally DEVOID of God, the Bible!

Communists are satanists, they believe THEY are God!

I will not be lumping capitalism in with communism like you do however.


Even many fat capitalists are behaving that they are gods! :Hole:
No. 72     Reply: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Nov 18, 2017 at 8:26 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Wouldn't surprise me if the USA has launched Nukes into space.

Or EMP nukes.

Or maybe a "Satellite Hunter" which can seek out and destroy other satellites.

This latest one is top top secret, so much so that even the branch of Government who owns the payload is secret.

Probably the US Military, and likely Reagan star wars stuff coming to fruition.

SpaceX's Top Secret Zuma Mission Set to Launch

https://www.wired.com/story/spacexs-top-secret-zuma-mission-launches-today/


Years ago I read about an effort to intercept a meteorite that was extemely large (the plan was to blast it, so if particles hit the earth they would be much smaller). The fear was of the meteorite hitting the earth and the fear at that time was placing the earth of its axis. It was International, not just the US. It was not reported if the mission went underway, although the meteorite was reported to have changed course. There was a film that came out years after this event on this (albeit the film was fictional, the idea was not).

Reagan was ahead of his time.

No. 73     Reply: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 18, 2017 at 9:29 AM     
CAsandie wrote:

Years ago I read about an effort to intercept a meteorite that was extemely large (the plan was to blast it, so if particles hit the earth they would be much smaller). The fear was of the meteorite hitting the earth and the fear at that time was placing the earth of its axis. It was International, not just the US. It was not reported if the mission went underway, although the meteorite was reported to have changed course. There was a film that came out years after this event on this (albeit the film was fictional, the idea was not).

Reagan was ahead of his time.



LOL. I had just downloaded that movie off YouTube and watched it about 2 weeks ago!

It is called, "Meteor".

No. 74     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 8:31 PM     
NEW DOD INTERCEPTOR DESTROYS MULTIPLE ICBMS AT ONCE || WARTHOG 2017

https://youtu.be/dEw0wWr0Fjs
No. 75     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 8:36 PM     
U.S. Air Force Has Taken Another Step Toward Re-Engining its B-52 Bombers

https://youtu.be/MNezrU320BE
No. 76     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 8:40 PM     
This is why U.S. Army Is Building a New Tank

https://youtu.be/PzknshfnWZM
No. 77     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 8:40 PM     
US Air Force A14-B ​New generation of American fighter

https://youtu.be/RHwGiWLkxaE
No. 78     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 8:43 PM     
Russian and Chinese Jets Will Be No Match for the F-35 after This Upgrade

https://youtu.be/y9JxFqee82o
No. 79     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 8:47 PM     
Why China and Russia Should Fear What Comes After the F-35 Stealth Fighter

https://youtu.be/iEkwxKJzRE8
No. 80     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 28, 2017 at 8:49 PM     
F/A-37 Talon prototype fighter.

https://youtu.be/djBd1KTlbsg
No. 81     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 85   on  Nov 29, 2017 at 4:38 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Bible is no use without Jesus' words :twocents:


The Bible IS Jesus Words!!!
No. 82     Reply: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 85   on  Nov 29, 2017 at 4:46 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

So according to you war mongering is yielding to Jesus' will? Nothing is more farther than this!:no-no:


You don't know the Bible very well I see.

Ever read this Scriptural Verse?

The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. - Exodus 15:3

Or how about this one?

A Psalm of David. Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight: - Psalm 144:1

No. 83     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 29, 2017 at 9:22 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Bible is no use without Jesus' words :twocents:


The Bible IS Jesus Words!!!


Blasphemy! It includes Satan's words too! :no-no:
No. 84     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 29, 2017 at 9:24 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

So according to you war mongering is yielding to Jesus' will? Nothing is more farther than this!:no-no:


You don't know the Bible very well I see.

Ever read this Scriptural Verse?

The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. - Exodus 15:3

Or how about this one?

A Psalm of David. Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight: - Psalm 144:1


So you are still stuck in the mire of the OT with no salvation in sight for you! :sorry:
No. 85     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Nov 29, 2017 at 9:47 PM     
the only people wanting War are the Enemies
of the hard working american taxpayer and productive
people throughout the Western world.

We've seen all this NWO elitist rhetoric before.



No. 86     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 85   on  Nov 30, 2017 at 11:12 AM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Bible is no use without Jesus' words :twocents:


The Bible IS Jesus Words!!!


Blasphemy! It includes Satan's words too! :no-no:


Jesus said....

1Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying, 2“The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son. 3“And he sent out his slaves to call those who had been invited to the wedding feast, and they were unwilling to come. 4“Again he sent out other slaves saying, ‘Tell those who have been invited, “Behold, I have prepared my dinner; my oxen and my fattened livestock are all butchered and everything is ready; come to the wedding feast.”’ 5“But they paid no attention and went their way, one to his own farm, another to his business, 6and the rest seized his slaves and mistreated them and killed them. 7“But the king was enraged, and he sent his armies and destroyed those murderers and set their city on fire. 8“Then he said to his slaves, ‘The wedding is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy. 9‘Go therefore to the main highways, and as many as you find there, invite to the wedding feast.’ 10“Those slaves went out into the streets and gathered together all they found, both evil and good; and the wedding hall was filled with dinner guests.

11“But when the king came in to look over the dinner guests, he saw a man there who was not dressed in wedding clothes, 12and he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without wedding clothes?’ And the man was speechless. 13“Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14“For many are called, but few are chosen.”
- Matthew 22:1-14

That's NEW Testament bubba!
No. 87     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 85   on  Nov 30, 2017 at 11:17 AM     
Devaprakash wrote:

So you are still stuck in the mire of the OT with no salvation in sight for you! :sorry:


You're a day late and a dollar short there guy.

I found out I was "saved" over 32 or so years ago.

I'm going to Heaven devil when I die whether you like or not! :naanaa::dance:

I have a Saviour, his name is Jesus Christ of Nazareth! :sorry:
No. 88     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 30, 2017 at 9:09 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Bible is no use without Jesus' words :twocents:


The Bible IS Jesus Words!!!


Blasphemy! It includes Satan's words too! :no-no:


Jesus's said....

1Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying, 2“The kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son. 3“And he sent out his slaves to call those who had been invited to the wedding feast, and they were unwilling to come. 4“Again he sent out other slaves saying, ‘Tell those who have been invited, “Behold, I have prepared my dinner; my oxen and my fattened livestock are all butchered and everything is ready; come to the wedding feast.”’ 5“But they paid no attention and went their way, one to his own farm, another to his business, 6and the rest seized his slaves and mistreated them and killed them. 7“But the king was enraged, and he sent his armies and destroyed those murderers and set their city on fire. 8“Then he said to his slaves, ‘The wedding is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy. 9‘Go therefore to the main highways, and as many as you find there, invite to the wedding feast.’ 10“Those slaves went out into the streets and gathered together all they found, both evil and good; and the wedding hall was filled with dinner guests.

11“But when the king came in to look over the dinner guests, he saw a man there who was not dressed in wedding clothes, 12and he said to him, ‘Friend, how did you come in here without wedding clothes?’ And the man was speechless. 13“Then the king said to the servants, ‘Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’ 14“For many are called, but few are chosen.”
- Matthew 22:1-14

That's NEW Testament bubba!


Dude, that was meant for half-enlightened Jews of His time!

You appear to be still brooding over that even now! :headbang:
No. 89     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Nov 30, 2017 at 9:15 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

So you are still stuck in the mire of the OT with no salvation in sight for you! :sorry:


You're a day late and a dollar short there guy.

I found out I was "saved" over 32 or so years ago.

I'm going to Heaven devil when I die whether you like or not! :naanaa::dance:

I have a Saviour, his name is Jesus Christ of Nazareth! :sorry:


I hope that I don't see you dancing claiming to be Jesus granting salvation to all - including self - in your next reply! :Hole:
No. 90     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 85   on  Dec 1, 2017 at 7:13 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

I hope that I don't see you dancing claiming to be Jesus granting salvation to all - including self - in your next reply! :Hole:


At least I know I have a Saviour and know i'm saved.

How about you???

Apparently not.
No. 91     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Dec 1, 2017 at 9:36 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

I hope that I don't see you dancing claiming to be Jesus granting salvation to all - including self - in your next reply! :Hole:


At least I know I have a Saviour and know i'm saved.

How about you???

Apparently not.


You may claim to know Him in a convenient way, but He may say that He never knew you!

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

It holds good for those who profess war under all kinds of pretext! :Hole:
No. 92     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 1, 2017 at 9:44 PM     
Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

I hope that I don't see you dancing claiming to be Jesus granting salvation to all - including self - in your next reply! :Hole:


At least I know I have a Saviour and know i'm saved.

How about you???

Apparently not.


You may claim to know Him in a convenient way, but He may say that He never knew you!

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

It holds good for those who profess war under all kinds of pretext! :Hole:


I can assure you devil YOU are certainly not my Saviour!

And i'll be going to Heaven no matter how much you whine or cry.

How you see other Christian proves you are still trusting in and relying on your own "good works", in order to get you into Heaven.

Good luck!

Your sentences PROVE you don't even know what the Gospel is or what it is based on.

You are still stuck in your own perceived holiness, which is nothing more than filthy garbage in the site of the Lord no matter how much you may think otherwise.

The Gospel is not what , "you do for Jesus".

It's what, "Jesus has done for you"!
No. 93     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Dec 1, 2017 at 9:59 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

Devaprakash wrote:

I hope that I don't see you dancing claiming to be Jesus granting salvation to all - including self - in your next reply! :Hole:


At least I know I have a Saviour and know i'm saved.

How about you???

Apparently not.


You may claim to know Him in a convenient way, but He may say that He never knew you!

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

It holds good for those who profess war under all kinds of pretext! :Hole:


I can assure you devil YOU are certainly not my Saviour!

And i'll be going to Heaven no matter how much you whine or cry.

How you see other Christian proves you are still trusting in and relying on your own "good works", in order to get you into Heaven.

Good luck!

Your sentences PROVE you don't even know what the Gospel is or what it is based on.

You are still stuck in your own perceived holiness, which is nothing more than filthy garbage in the site of the Lord no matter how much you may think otherwise.

The Gospel is not what , "you do for Jesus".

It's what, "Jesus has done for you"!


Yeah, I know what you mean! Jesus has done eating for you, sleeping for you and even going to toilet on your behalf. Sit back and enjoy your dreams! :naanaa:
No. 94     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 85   on  Dec 6, 2017 at 5:43 PM     
A US military general being interviewed on Fox News last night stated if Korea does fire off a long range nuclear missile, our missle defense systems have a 50/50 chance of taking it out. He followed with “that is not a good margin by any military standards”.
No. 95     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 7, 2017 at 1:07 AM     
Did you know Russia has only ONE Aircraft Carrier?

And it has only 15 Aircraft onboard.

It has been dubbed, "The ship of shame". It belches smoke and has been plagued with problems.

Russia's Dilapidated Aircraft Carrier Keeps Getting Banned From Ports

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a23584/admiral-kuznetsov-sad-smoky-voyage/

By contrast the USA has 11 and they can carry up to 90 Aircraft each depending on the class of carrier!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_carriers_in_service
No. 96     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 8, 2017 at 7:51 PM     
And THAT is how you win a War! Once Politicians get out of the way and let the Military do what it was designed to do the results are often phenomenal.

You won't hear this on the mainstream news media, other than Fox and perhaps a few others.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/12/08/trump-mattis-turn-military-loose-on-isis-leaving-terror-caliphate-in-tatters.html

Trump, Mattis turn military loose on ISIS, leaving terror caliphate in tatters
No. 97     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 8, 2017 at 7:54 PM     
'The ISIS Caliphate Is Done': Peters Says Trump Is Getting It 'Exactly Right' on Terror

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/26/ralph-peters-president-trump-remarks-niger-ambush-fight-against-isis
No. 98     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Dec 8, 2017 at 9:16 PM     
I still dont buy all this faux fox stuff
since they never mainstream how trumpy
is trying to normalize relations with Russia,
E.Europe/Poland/CzechRep.I've turned off the radio
Flip Floppin Ingrahmm,Hannity,Levin,esp.Nappytonto's
clips ""Again"". I can't take the bull.

they're either still GOP'e deep state shills,
compromised,scared,trying to boost ratings,
or still conning their listener base.
No. 99     Reply: Re: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 8, 2017 at 10:27 PM     
crayons wrote:

Flip Floppin Ingrahmm,Hannity,Levin,esp.Nappytonto's
clips ""Again"". I can't take the bull.


I too am no fan of those folks. But I also was not their fan long before Trump ran.
No. 100     Reply: Re: US Military Power   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Jan 4, 2018 at 9:47 PM     
No other country on earth even comes close to the US's Aircraft Carriers. Not one. Russia has just one dilapidated Carrier, and it isn't all that capable either.

The USA has 10 Nimitz class carriers.

Why North Korea, China and Russia Fear the Navy's Nimitz-Class Aircraft Carriers

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/why-north-korea-china-russia-fear-the-navys-nimitz-class-23932