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No. 0     Original Topic:  Russia scandal is real   
By:  Vickie   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 1:19 PM   Viewed 1300 times     
involves Hillary Clinton


These links seem not to work but perhaps you will find a way to view them?
Politics
Russia tables turn, roping Clinton, Obama, Holder, not Trump
amp.washingtontimes.com 7 hours ago
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/1632f6f5-7b31-3d90-8fe6-d9cf87bcf614/ss_russia-tables-turn%2C-roping.html



Clinton Scandals: For well over a year now, the progressive left in the Democratic Party have tried hard to sell the idea that, a) Russia meddled in our election, and, b) that it was to the detriment of Hillary Clinton. After nearly a year and a half of investigating, neither appears true. What is true, and now documented, is that Hillary Clinton and her family foundation both benefited handsomely from Russian corruption.

Citing federal officials and government documents, The Hill details the Russians' nuclear-industry corruption here in the U.S., citing extensive evidence that "Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin's atomic energy business" in the U.S.

But that's just the beginning. Based on both an eyewitness account and documents, The Hill report goes on to say that federal agents found evidence "indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton's charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow."

Isn't that called bribery?
Strangely, the Department of Justice first discovered the Russian racketeering scheme and the links to Clinton in 2009. But it failed to bring charges, and dragged its investigation out for four years with no substantive action.

Meanwhile, in October of 2010, the State Department and the interagency Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) curiously — and unanimously — approved the sale of part of Uranium One, a Canadian-based company with uranium interests in the U.S., to Rosatom, a Russian state holding company.

Why is this significant? That sale gave Russia, a potential nuclear foe, defacto control over 20% of the U.S.' uranium supply. Let that sink in for a minute.

Then there's this: The CFIUS that approved the Rosatom deal had two key members: Then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who in a clear conflict of interest materially benefited from the deal, and Attorney General Eric Holder, the man responsible for slow-walking the investigation into Russian nuclear racketeering.

So the Obama administration knew of the Russian racketeering, extortion, money laundering, and the rest, as Vladimir Putin's minions elbowed their way into the U.S. nuclear market. The Obama administration did nothing. The administration knew, too, that Hillary was selling access and influence in the State Department via donations to the family charity. But, again, it did nothing.

And these donations weren't just peanuts.

The Clintons and their foundation raked in a cool $145 million in donations and "speaking fees" just from Uranium One- and Rosatom-affiliated donors while Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was supposedly keeping all Clinton Foundation business at "arm's-length." As we reported in July, Clinton official emails show extensive connections between Hillary, the Clinton Foundation and donors during her time as secretary of state, a kind of criminal conga-line of people asking for favors from Hillary and donating to the foundation.

Peter Schwiezer, the author of "Clinton Cash," questioned this "spontaneous outbreak of philanthropy among eight shareholders in Uranium One" who "decide now would be a great time to donate tens of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation."

Nor was this just a Russian thing. It was a much-broader pay-for-play scheme by Hillary Clinton. Consider this: Of the 154 private interests that were given official access to Hillary Clinton during her tenure at the State Department, at least 85 donated to the Clinton Foundation or a program affiliated with it. The secretary of state's office in Foggy Bottom might as well have had "For Sale" painted on it.

It's strange that an investigation continues into the inconsequential ties between the Donald Trump campaign and Russian officials, while solid evidence of bribery of the Clinton family by the Russians and many others is completely ignored.

Investor's Business Daily

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russia-scandal-is-real-involves-hillary-clinton/
No. 1     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Vickie   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 1:20 PM     
Both links were found on Yahoo's news page of all places, lol
No. 2     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Oct 22, 2017 at 12:20 PM     
I posted on MC a long time ago about the uranium ordeal and the US giving Russia control. But following posts chided me with such as Russia has nothing and Putin cannot even afford to feed Russia let alone invest in anything else.
No. 3     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Oct 23, 2017 at 12:56 PM     
The MSM, of course, ignored the whole 'Uranium One' deal since it didn't fit their agenda.

Now Trump has revived it with his tweets, and so the MSM may have to get off their duffs and address it when the heat gets hot enough.

This is truly one of the greatest acts of treason ever.
No. 4     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Vickie   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Oct 23, 2017 at 3:27 PM     
and now that the truth is out..REAL NEWS says...nothing to see here

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fbi-watched-then-acted-as-russian-spy-moved-closer-to-hillary-clinton/ar-AAtUqMg?li=BBnb4R7&ocid=mailsignout


Unbelievable, almost, lol
No. 5     Reply: Re: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Oct 23, 2017 at 8:56 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

The MSM, of course, ignored the whole 'Uranium One' deal since it didn't fit their agenda.

Now Trump has revived it with his tweets, and so the MSM may have to get off their duffs and address it when the heat gets hot enough.

This is truly one of the greatest acts of treason ever.


In an energy investment newsletter I subscribe to, I stumbled onto the uranium deal with Russia long before Trump was in office. Posted a little about it here on MC, but a responding post or two somewhat shunned it.

Actually, I do not think the investment guys initially saw it as "foul play". Their concern was that Russia had gained control of something like 85% of the worlds uranium resources no matter how it came about.
No. 6     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 24, 2017 at 10:19 AM     
The Russian scandal is blowing up in the Clintons and Democrats faces.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/24/sean-hannity-real-russia-probe-exposes-clintons-obama-not-president-trump.html
No. 7     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 24, 2017 at 10:41 AM     
Russian collusion scandal boomerangs on Democrats.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/24/republicans-see-tables-turned-as-dems-face-fresh-russia-controversies.html
No. 8     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Oct 24, 2017 at 3:16 PM     
I did a search on my old MC posts on the matter. At least as early as 2015, I was posting here on MC about Russia cornering the market on uranium.

At the time though, it appeared to be blamed on Obama. I do not recall the Clintons mentioned as being involved at that time.

Obama was running around the world promoting an International energy program that emphasized the building of new nuclear reactors in such as China and India, and bringing Japan's old reactors back online. Next thing the investment world realized, Russia had somehow slipped into the position to benefit greatly financially from the global move to nuclear energy and the forecast demand for uranium.
No. 9     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Oct 24, 2017 at 6:34 PM     
The Hollyweird media will cook up some kind of Achievement Award
for the White House Grifters,,,diverting the brainwashed rubes away
from all 140 million reasons to lock her up.

Slick Silly will play the sax
while Bahwha Streisand & Cher belt out

Bill and Hill
Grifters Forever
Thats the Way We Were

by vince foster & seth rich

copywrite 2017 by crazyon
No. 10     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 26, 2017 at 7:35 AM     
I always suspected Trump would eventually go after Hillary for the Russian scandal.

It's blowing wide open!

Hillary Clinton and the real Russian collusion

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/25/hillary-clinton-and-real-russian-collusion.html
No. 11     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 26, 2017 at 7:39 AM     
Hurray! I'd like to see the looks on Hillary & Bill's faces now, lol.

Gag order lifted: DOJ says informant can speak to Congress on Uranium One, Russia bribery case with Clinton links

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/26/gag-order-lifted-doj-says-informant-can-speak-to-congress-on-uranium-one-russia-bribery-case-with-clinton-links.html
No. 12     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 26, 2017 at 7:43 AM     
I think they'll just about have to now.

Stuart Varney: The media refuses to cover the Clinton Russian scandal

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/25/stuart-varney-media-refuses-to-cover-clinton-russian-scandal.html
No. 13     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 27, 2017 at 9:15 PM     
Article & Video:

Newt Gingrich: The Clintons started the so-called Russian collusion scandal and may be destroyed by it

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/27/newt-gingrich-clintons-started-so-called-russian-collusion-scandal-and-may-be-destroyed-by-it.html
No. 14     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 27, 2017 at 9:27 PM     
This should be interesting.

According to the article Arrests might be made Monday. I guess we'll know then.

Mueller Files First Charges in Russia Investigation

https://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/robert-mueller-files-first-charges/2017/10/27/id/822614/
No. 15     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 29, 2017 at 3:00 PM     
Judge Jeanine is angry, and wants heads to roll...

Judge Jeanine: After Russian Dossier Funding, Time to 'Lock Her Up'

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/29/judge-jeanine-after-russian-dossier-funding-time-lock-her
No. 16     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 29, 2017 at 3:03 PM     
Hannity: Evidence Is Overwhelming That Clintons Sold Out Our Nat'l Security to the Russians

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/24/sean-hannity-opening-monologue-russia-investigations-bill-hillary-clinton
No. 17     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Oct 29, 2017 at 10:27 PM     
Alex Jones and Roger Stone at Infowars.com
reported all this last year...

so quit yellin at us with this faux fox [/s5 script code.
No. 18     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Oct 30, 2017 at 5:29 AM     
I appreciate your postings Bullfighter ... :2thumbs:
No. 19     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 30, 2017 at 8:12 PM     
We know...but will Mueller charge Hillary???

Manafort's lawyer says Trump was right: No evidence of collusion with Russia

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/30/manafort-gates-plead-not-guilty-in-grand-jury-indictment.html
No. 20     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 30, 2017 at 8:21 PM     
I'm sure liberals and Democrats are running with it anyway saying, "SEE...WE TOLD YOU SO!"

Gregg Jarrett: Still no evidence of Trump-Russia 'collusion' - but Hillary is a different matter

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/30/gregg-jarrett-still-no-evidence-trump-russia-collusion-but-hillary-is-different-matter.html


"Congressman: Hearing on Clintons-Russia long overdue

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher tells Tucker he has been trying to get a hearing on the Clintons-Russia connection for months. #Tucker

Over the weekend, the mainstream media was absolutely giddy with delight upon learning there would be an indictment by special counsel, Robert Mueller.

This was proof positive, they insisted, that Trump “colluded” with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election. Their exuberance was the equivalent of a two day-long tailgate party. Too bad it was premature.

Manafort & Gates

The celebration came to a crashing end when the indictments of Paul Manafort and his business associate, Rick Gates, were unsealed Monday morning. It turns out the charges are, basically, a tax fraud case. The two men stand accused of hiding their income from their lobbying work for Ukraine in order to avoid paying taxes, then lying about it. That’s it.

The 31-page indictment makes no mention of Trump or Russia or “collusion.” The media seemed as dejected as a kid who wakes up on Christmas morning, only to find there are no presents under the tree. Gee whiz.

The truth is, it should have come as no surprise to anyone, much less the media, that Manafort was in legal jeopardy for his business dealings. The FBI raided his home over the summer. It was later learned that the FBI wiretapped his conversations as far back as 2014. And it was widely reported that Manafort had been told by Mueller’s team that he would be criminally charged.

It could be said that Hillary Clinton is the one who was conspiring with the Russians by breaking campaign finance laws with impunity.

The media became even more dispirited when they read through the indictment, discovering that nearly all of Manafort’s alleged wrongdoing substantially pre-dates his brief stint as chairman of the Trump campaign. In other words, there is no connection to either Trump or his campaign.

Somewhere, I’m sure, ABC’s Martha Raddatz and CNN’s Van Jones were crying. Again. Just like the tears they shed on camera election night when Hillary lost.

Papadopoulos

But wait. Shortly after the indictments were unsealed, the media’s spirits were suddenly boosted when the special counsel revealed that a former adviser to Trump pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with a Russian national during his time on the Trump campaign. Surely this was evidence of illegal “collusion,” right?

Wrong. George Papadopoulos pled guilty to a single charge of making a false statement to the FBI. He was not charged with so-called “collusion” because no such crime exists in American statutory law, except in anti-trust matters. It has no application to elections and political campaigns.

It is not a crime to talk to a Russian. Not that the media would ever understand that. They have never managed to point to a single statute that makes “colluding” with a foreign government in a political campaign a crime, likely because it does not exist in the criminal codes.

To put it plainly, Mueller is tasked with finding a crime that does not exist in the law. It is a legal impossibility. He is being asked to do something that is manifestly unattainable.

But that did not stop them from accusing Donald Trump, Jr., of illegally conspiring with the Russians when he met with a Russian lawyer to obtain information on Hillary Clinton. What law did he break? None. The Federal Election Commission has made it clear that it is perfectly lawful for foreign nationals to be involved in campaigns, as long as they are not paid and do not donate money. Which brings us to Hillary Clinton.

Hillary Clinton

It is against the law for the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee to funnel millions of dollars to a British spy and to Russian sources in order to obtain the infamous and discredited Trump “dossier.” The Federal Election Campaign Act (52 USC 30101) prohibits foreign nationals and governments from giving or receiving money in U.S. campaigns. It also prohibits the filing of false or misleading campaign reports to hide the true purpose of the money (52 USC 30121). This is what Clinton and the DNC appear to have done.

Most often the penalty for violating this law is a fine, but in egregious cases, like this one, criminal prosecutions have been sought and convictions obtained. In this sense, it could be said that Hillary Clinton is the one who was conspiring with the Russians by breaking campaign finance laws with impunity.

But that’s not all. Damning new evidence appears to show that Clinton used her office as Secretary of State to confer benefits to Russia in exchange for millions of dollars in donations to her foundation and cash to her husband. Secret recordings, intercepted emails, financial records, and eyewitness accounts allegedly show that Russian nuclear officials enriched the Clintons at the very time Hillary presided over a governing body which unanimously approved the sale of one-fifth of America’s uranium supply to Russia.

If this proves to be a corrupt “pay-to-play” scheme, it would constitute a myriad of crimes, including bribery (18 USC 201-b), mail fraud (18 USC 1341), and wire fraud (18 USC 1343). It might also qualify for racketeering charges (18 USC 1961-1968), if her foundation is determined to have been used as a criminal enterprise.

Despite all the incriminating evidence, Clinton has managed to avoid being pursued by a special counsel. Trump, on the other hand, is being chased by Robert Mueller and his team, notwithstanding a dearth of evidence.

Robert Mueller

The indictments of Manafort and Gates now present a unique opportunity to challenge the authority of the special counsel.

Until now, no one had legal “standing” to argue in court that the appointment of Mueller was illegal. The criminal charges change all that. The two defendants will be able to argue before a judge that Mueller’s appointment by Acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein violated the special counsel law.

As I pointed out in a column last May, the law (28 CFR 600) grants legal authority to appoint a special counsel to investigate crimes. Only crimes. He has limited jurisdiction. Yet, in his order appointing Mueller as special counsel (Order No. 3915-2017), Rosenstein directed him to investigate “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump.” It fails to identify any specific crimes, likely because none are applicable.

To put it plainly, Mueller is tasked with finding a crime that does not exist in the law. It is a legal impossibility. He is being asked to do something that is manifestly unattainable.

If the federal judge agrees, Mueller and his team would be disbanded by judicial order. The Department of Justice would have to seek a new indictment of Manafort and Gates without the special counsel or drop the case entirely.

The naming of Robert Mueller was tainted with disqualifying conflicts of interest from the beginning. Fired FBI Director James Comey admitted he leaked presidential memos to the media for the sole purpose of triggering the appointment of a special counsel who just happens to be Comey’s longtime friend, ally and partner.

It is no coincidence that Rosenstein appointed Mueller. We now know both men were overseeing the corrupt Uranium One sale which involved Russian bribes, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering. They appear to have kept it secret, even hiding it from Congress which would surely have cancelled the transaction involving a vital national security asset. A cover-up? It has the stench of one.

How can Americans have confidence in the outcome of the Trump-Russia matter if the integrity and impartiality of Mueller and Rosenstein has been compromised by their suspected cover-up of the Clinton-Russia case? Both men should resign.

And a new special counsel should be appointed – this time to investigate Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump."
No. 21     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 30, 2017 at 8:58 PM     
Trump is keeping the pressure up...

Trump slams Manafort indictment as irrelevant to Russia probe, calls for 'Crooked Hillary' investigation

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/30/trump-gop-lawmakers-manafort-charges-no-relation-to-campaign-alleged-collusion.html
No. 22     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 30, 2017 at 9:10 PM     
Mueller facing new Republican pressure to resign in Russia probe

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/27/mueller-facing-new-republican-pressure-to-resign-in-russia-probe.html
No. 23     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 2, 2017 at 3:02 AM     
So much for the collusion theory.

Facebook, Twitter Admit Russian Groups Attempted to Undermine Trump Presidency After Election

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/11/01/facebook-twitter-admit-russian-groups-attempted-to-undermine-trump-presidency-after-election/
No. 24     Reply: Re: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Vickie   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Nov 2, 2017 at 9:28 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:



http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/30/gregg-jarrett-still-no-evidence-trump-russia-collusion-but-hillary-is-different-matter.html



Despite all the incriminating evidence, Clinton has managed to avoid being pursued by a special counsel. Trump, on the other hand, is being chased by Robert Mueller and his team, notwithstanding a dearth of evidence.

Robert Mueller

The indictments of Manafort and Gates now present a unique opportunity to challenge the authority of the special counsel.

Until now, no one had legal “standing” to argue in court that the appointment of Mueller was illegal. The criminal charges change all that. The two defendants will be able to argue before a judge that Mueller’s appointment by Acting Attorney General Rod Rosenstein violated the special counsel law.

...


How can Americans have confidence in the outcome of the Trump-Russia matter if the integrity and impartiality of Mueller and Rosenstein has been compromised by their suspected cover-up of the Clinton-Russia case? Both men should resign.

And a new special counsel should be appointed – this time to investigate Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump."


Thank you for all the information. I do not listen to Fox News but I try to find bits of truth buried in main stream media to highlight. Many will not believe ANYthing if not found there, lol. And still, if it is not headline news for weeks they feel it must not be important.
No. 25     Reply: Re: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Vickie   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Nov 2, 2017 at 9:51 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Trump is keeping the pressure up...

Trump slams Manafort indictment as irrelevant to Russia probe, calls for 'Crooked Hillary' investigation

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/30/trump-gop-lawmakers-manafort-charges-no-relation-to-campaign-alleged-collusion.html


and the networks respond with hints that Pres Trump is 'distancing' himself from those in such deep trouble, etc...
They still think they 'controlled news' are relevant. ...laughable

No. 26     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 2, 2017 at 9:28 PM     
Gutfeld: Hillary's obsession with Fox News

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5630291084001/?#sp=show-clips
No. 27     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 2, 2017 at 9:39 PM     
Oops wrong thread.
No. 28     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 8, 2017 at 8:16 PM     
Billy too.

The question is, will Justice ever finally catch up with her or will she slither out of all her scandals as usual? :unsure:

Newt Gingrich: Hillary Clinton's been getting away with unethical, illegal behavior for 40 years

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/11/08/newt-gingrich-hillary-clintons-been-getting-away-with-unethical-illegal-behavior-for-40-years.html
No. 29     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 17, 2017 at 1:46 AM     
Gregg Jarrett: Hillary Clinton must face the consequences of her actions and the scrutiny of a special counsel

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/11/14/gregg-jarrett-hillary-clinton-must-face-consequences-her-actions-and-scrutiny-special-counsel.html
No. 30     Reply: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Nov 17, 2017 at 5:43 PM     
Am here at McDonald's and of course CNN as usual is on.

The various hosts and guests are overflowing with joy and having a party thinking that the Trump Administration is soon finished due to the recent "subpoenas" by Mueller of various Trump aides.

They are going at it nonstop and not covering anything else.

CNN must have studied under the North Korean communist regime on brainswashing techniques!
No. 31     Reply: Re: Re: Russia scandal is real   
By:  Vickie   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Nov 21, 2017 at 11:25 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Am here at McDonald's and of course CNN as usual is on.

The various hosts and guests are overflowing with joy and having a party thinking that the Trump Administration is soon finished due to the recent "subpoenas" by Mueller of various Trump aides.

They are going at it nonstop and not covering anything else.

CNN must have studied under the North Korean communist regime on brainswashing techniques!


In the past when media focus on an issue it became 'truth' because after all, if it's important it will be on the 'news', lol

Times are changing. We'll see if enough of God's people will continue to repent and pray for this nation. I'd love to see the enemy confounded and confused even further, turning on itself and defeating itself.

God is still on His throne!