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No. 0     Original Topic: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Oct 17, 2017 at 3:23 PM   Viewed 1619 times     

Planet Fitness is offering haircuts at some locations as a benefit for upgraded membership (it's $10/month for basic and $21.99 for the black card). Most also offer things like hydramassage chairs, massage chairs, infrared technologies and tanning for the upgraded (black card membership).

As a person who survived the second worse type of skin cancer, I do not recommend tanning beds, however, the hair cuts is a great perk (especially for those who get hair cuts frequently)!

1. If attending gyms, how often do you use the massage chairs and newer perks?

2. What's your gym and it's perks and what are ur gym costs?

3. What ever happened to separate women's areas within the gym?


I used to work out at military bases (I still could as I have retained base facility access, but it's a long drive for me and I need something closer so I can get a good routine to strengthen and care for my body prior to my upcoming surgery and thereafter).

Thanks for your thoughts on gyms (I know there was a previous thread on gyms, but starting a new one on body fitness and strength that I feel part of our overall duty to ourselves and God [we are to keep ourselves well and ready for His Purposes and to serve others]! Exercise and feeling well also helps with our mental health).

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No. 1     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Oct 17, 2017 at 3:47 PM     
I have the Planet Fitness Basic ($10/mo) membership. Perks include free pizza once a month, and free bagels once a month. That's good enough for me.

(I've found a local barber that charges $6 a cut).
No. 2     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Oct 17, 2017 at 5:08 PM     
I have never heard of Plant Fitness. I have a membership at Planet Fitness that sounds similar for humans.
No. 3     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Oct 17, 2017 at 8:56 PM     
I believe in gadget-free simple stretching exercises based on Yoga for my age. I want to spend least amount of time on a barber's chair for my hair cut. I avoid getting my beard shaved by him also. Massages--total no!

I have heard body massages harming a person. It was my wife's bad experience too!
No. 4     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  tominsd62   Gender: M   Age: 60   on  Oct 17, 2017 at 11:02 PM     
I workout a lot, but I do it at home. I don't care for the gyms that much. I tried them but it just didn't work for me. I am an introvert, so being around people and noise can distract me a whole lot.

What I didn't like about the gym was waiting to use something and the music that they play. I like the privacy at home, not having to wait to use something, and playing my own kind of music. As far as the music goes, I have to confess that I don't listen to all Christian music. But there are times that I do put on some Jars of Clay and it does help.

I workout with barbells and dumbbells (the dumbbells are weights, not me!:rofl three days a week and the other days I go bike riding.
No. 5     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Oct 17, 2017 at 11:15 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

I have never heard of Plant Fitness. I have a membership at Planet Fitness that sounds similar for humans.


(typo fixed) ... thanks for the laugh though!

No. 6     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Oct 17, 2017 at 11:39 PM     
Tom -- it sounds like a good workout!

I have a lot of fitness equipment at home, but I have found the gym holds me to a particular 'heavier' regime for strength training and the gym's equipment used quite accurate and requiring less time to meet the same goals.

I tend to focus on my work out and block out the distractions, although I do understand your position, as I had to teach myself to block out disliked music. I also agree about waiting on machines and try to go during less crowded hours or mix up my routine on the same machines if a machine is occupied. I was trained by several professional trainers (and athletic friends) and I have a heavy regime that requires little time and will bring results in a short time (what I am currently after, since I want to be healthy for an upcoming surgery).

Thanks for your post again. I think biking and swimming are two of the 'best' exercises one can get for overall health!



No. 7     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 12:27 AM     
CAsandie wrote:



I have a lot of fitness equipment at home, but I have found the gym holds me to a particular 'heavier' regime for strength training and the gym's equipment used quite accurate and requiring less time to meet the same goals.

I tend to focus on my work out and block out the distractions, although I do understand your position, as I had to teach myself to block out disliked music. I also agree about waiting on machines and try to go during less crowded hours or mix up my routine on the same machines if a machine is occupied. I was trained by several professional trainers (and athletic friends) and I have a heavy regime that requires little time and will bring results in a short time (what I am currently after, since I want to be healthy for an upcoming surgery).

Thanks for your post again. I think biking and swimming are two of the 'best' exercises one can get for overall health!





CAsandie, are you an actual member of Planet Fitness? You didn't really say, but it seems like you are.

I do better at a gym also. I have home equipment but rarely use it, and if I don't get to the gym or bike, then probably no workout.

My PF always has machines free, though I get a little frustrated at the stretching room sometimes - they keep adding machines there that are rarely used, but each machine takes up floor space that could be used for stretching, so at peak times that floor space is at a premium sometimes.
No. 8     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 10:54 AM     
Storm -- No. Not yet. I am in the process of choosing a gym to join that is closer to my house than the military base gyms I used to go to every other day when working on military installations. Military gyms are free to me, but I have to travel 22 miles to the closest one in CA traffic (so I am not going on a regular basis and I want a regular strength training routine/every other day work out with low impact aerobics on the day off and two complete days of rest after the last day of heavy weight training (so the body can heal).

[I have a circuit at gyms [most gyms carry the same machines] and a routine that gives very fast results]). I am now researching the 'perks' at different gyms that are close by.

btw ...

Perks include free pizza once a month, and free bagels once a month


I thought that was Tuesday Pizza and Thursday bagels once a week at Planet Fitness? (unsure).

It's an odd concept to me (going to a gym to eat)!

(I also am trying to remove Pizza completely from diet after learning about it being difficult on our pancreas).


No. 9     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 10:59 AM     
Devaprakash wrote: I have heard body massages harming a person. It was my wife's bad experience too!


The massaging 'chairs?' (there is not a person giving massage at the Planet Fitness I researched here in the States, although the military gym in Point Loma, CA did have a woman one could pay for massage if desiring).

Thanks.



No. 10     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 11:16 AM     
CAsandie wrote:

Devaprakash wrote: I have heard body massages harming a person. It was my wife's bad experience too!


The massaging 'chairs?' (there is not a person giving massage at the Planet Fitness I researched here in the States, although the military gym in Point Loma, CA did have a woman one could pay for massage if desiring).

Thanks.


In India, generally speaking, body massages are administered by ladies for ladies and by gents for gents.
No. 11     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Judy757   Gender: F   Age: 63   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 5:20 PM     
I used to go to "Plant" Fitness (that's a good one, CAsandie:biggrin but I got soured out on it after a while. You would think that with all the treadmills and bikes and exercise machines available that there would be no problem getting one, right? Try waiting to get on a machine and there are three or four little teenage girls all hanging around the machines. They're not there to work out, but the sole purpose they are there, is to meet guys. And how about the dude who sits on a machine, texting on his cell phone? The worse ones are the people who come in with small kids which is asking for trouble because they let them get on the machines and if one of them gets hurt, the gym gets sued. AND! Let's not forget the ones who come in and let their kids run wild through the gym while they do their work out. One time, some kids went into the ladies locker room and got under the cubicles and locked them from the inside. And of course, the management does NOTHING. I go to this church that has a gym. It's much quieter and free of all the headaches.
No. 12     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 5:40 PM     
Whoa! Kids running around Planet Fitness? Teen girls blocking machines?

Not my experience at PF, and I hope it never is.

CAsandie wrote:


I thought that was Tuesday Pizza and Thursday bagels once a week at Planet Fitness? (unsure).


Pizza the first Monday of the month at around suppertime. Bagels the first Tuesday of the month - not sure of the time for have never partook of this particular benefit. Neither once a week, at least at my PF.


It's an odd concept to me (going to a gym to eat)!

(I also am trying to remove Pizza completely from diet after learning about it being difficult on our pancreas).



Have not heard of that. I don't eat pizza like I used to, but still enjoy it occasionally.
No. 13     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 5:54 PM     
Judy757 wrote: I used to go to "Plant" Fitness (that's a good one, CAsandie:biggrin


Oh, I have hundreds of 'em!

but I got soured out on it after a while. You would think that with all the treadmills and bikes and exercise machines available that there would be no problem getting one, right? Try waiting to get on a machine and there are three or four little teenage girls all hanging around the machines. They're not there to work out, but the sole purpose they are there, is to meet guys. And how about the dude who sits on a machine, texting on his cell phone? The worse ones are the people who come in with small kids which is asking for trouble because they let them get on the machines and if one of them gets hurt, the gym gets sued. AND! Let's not forget the ones who come in and let their kids run wild through the gym while they do their work out. One time, some kids went into the ladies locker room and got under the cubicles and locked them from the inside. And of course, the management does NOTHING.


Yikes, that does not sound enjoyable at all! I've only went to a women's gym locally and the military gym (both of which did not allow children and were not for 'dating hook ups,' but rather full of serious fitness enthusiasts.

I go to this church that has a gym. It's much quieter and free of all the headaches.


I might look into the Churches around my area (how wonderful you have such a Church in your area)! Thank you for letting me know this (something to look into).

Thanks for you post, Judy!

No. 14     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 6:03 PM     
I used to belong to Purple Fitness. I only joined because I drove right by one on the way to a site I used to work.

Got transferred from that site to somewhere else and they would not let me cancel the contract unless I lived more than 25 miles away or something like that. So they Billed m err every month for a whole year.

Only the deluxe plan allowed you to visit other planet fitnesses around the country.
No. 15     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 6:17 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

I used to belong to Purple Fitness. I only joined because I drove right by one on the way to a site I used to work.

Got transferred from that site to somewhere else and they would not let me cancel the contract unless I lived more than 25 miles away or something like that. So they Billed m err every month for a whole year.

Only the deluxe plan allowed you to visit other planet fitnesses around the country.


I had something similar occur years ago. I joined a women's fitness gym and my Dad passed about a week later. I had a great deal of responsibility and attempted to retrieve the $300.00 + I gave them stating I would rejoin when I held more time to commit to my fitness. They refused any refund at all or any consideration. (zero compassion).

The Planet fitness gyms here do not require a contract (this is a 'good' change I see in gyms not requiring a huge down or contracts).

I hope you got reimbursed the year of payments!

No. 16     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 6:19 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

I used to belong to Purple Fitness. I only joined because I drove right by one on the way to a site I used to work.

Got transferred from that site to somewhere else and they would not let me cancel the contract unless I lived more than 25 miles away or something like that. So they Billed m err every month for a whole year.

Only the deluxe plan allowed you to visit other planet fitnesses around the country.


The terms are clearly spelled out, at least with my local PF. I'm very aware at the basic plan I may only attend the PF I joined at, even though there are a couple of others now locally.
No. 18     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Oct 18, 2017 at 9:54 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

I used to belong to Purple Fitness. I only joined because I drove right by one on the way to a site I used to work.

Got transferred from that site to somewhere else and they would not let me cancel the contract unless I lived more than 25 miles away or something like that. So they Billed m err every month for a whole year.

Only the deluxe plan allowed you to visit other planet fitnesses around the country.


I had something similar occur years ago. I joined a women's fitness gym and my Dad passed about a week later. I had a great deal of responsibility and attempted to retrieve the $300.00 + I gave them stating I would rejoin when I held more time to commit to my fitness. They refused any refund at all or any consideration. (zero compassion).

The Planet fitness gyms here do not require a contract (this is a 'good' change I see in gyms not requiring a huge down or contracts).

I hope you got reimbursed the year of payments!



Well then they have changed things then.

And no, I did not get reimbursed.

It was simply way too far me to go to once I was transferred. Was a very long drive, over an hour.
No. 19     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Oct 19, 2017 at 10:12 AM     
Hi BF,

Yes, I have noticed many more no contract options and low initial fees from gyms today (there were far less in the past at gyms and with cell phone carriers).

I am sorry that PF continually to bill you even though you were more than 25 miles from the gym and did not have the upgraded membership to attend closer gyms. In the case I mentioned above, I had 3 days to change my mind and was late they stated (they made no exception for a death in the family).

So often we have to dust our feet and walk away in this world (this can be an exercise in itself)! <3



No. 20     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Oct 19, 2017 at 1:15 PM     
Just now getting time to respond to this. Been extremely busy. I actually have more than enough equipment at home to get in and stay in top shape. But I have found it way easier to stop at a gym when out and about during my day. And quite simply, working out with others can motivate you to go above and beyond what you may typically do for a workout. At least one day per week I shy away from my typical workout to participate in an extreme workout with a personal trainer. It has made a huge difference quickly. He calls his technique "muscle confusion". Once in a while I may hit a class with the female PT, but she is typically instructing only the basics to those just getting started. She does have specific muscle group classes scheduled throughout the day, but my times at the gym are not all that consistent from one day to the next.


CAsandie wrote:

1. If attending gyms, how often do you use the massage chairs and newer perks?


Most never. I have found that more often than not, I have more success working any soreness out versus any kind of massage. Massages can be enjoyable, but I simply do not take the time to use such even though many of the gyms I attend have such equipment.

I do occasionally take advantage of the free personal trainers, nutritionist, etc.. And with Planet Fitness I like the option of attending other facilities on my one membership fee.


CAsandie wrote:
2. What's your gym and it's perks and what are ur gym costs?


LOL. I may have mentioned this before, but I essentially have memberships to 7 gyms. More than that if one desires to count my affiliation with the online ones. I own one online gym myself.

The oldest is with Universal Health Spas/Slenderform. I earned a free lifetime membership there when I was just an 18 year old kid. Used to be there 3 days a week religiously. But they no longer have a local facility. I would have to drive all the way to Southfield MI now for the closest to me. Like an hour drive one way of the traffic is not bad at the time I choose to go.

My next oldest is my college gym at the local University of Michigan campus. I have free access as a graduated alumni, but not all is free. There can be fees that vary on amount depending on what you desire to take advantage of.

The local Y is my next oldest, but I typically only go there for such as playing racquetball, and of my various memberships they have the best wet area as far as pool, hot tub, sauna, those types of things. I no longer maintain an annual membership. I pay at each use. In fact, my last annual membership was a gift from a female I was occasionally dating.

Next would be Planet Fitness. Although I have the black card membership, I rarely use any of the perks other than the right to attend other facilities. I feel that I more than get my money's worth out of Planet Fitness. I average 6-7 visits per week to a Planet Fitness. In fact, and I am not sure if all PF facilities tally and post such monthly, but I rank in the top 10 in monthly attendance at my most local PF. I enjoy the convenience, it is kept clean, and if you do not allow yourself to get caught up in the socializing, you can typically get on what you want and be done quickly. It is "big" though, for a lot of socializing same as one may see at the singles bar. If you want to date, attending PF can provide an endless supply of willing prospects. And for the most part, age differences do not seem to matter at all.

Next is my Krav Maga facility. I have their premier membership that runs me $114 per month, and I am getting a sizeable discount off the regular monthly rate. Despite it being like a 50 minute drive one way for me, I was there 4-5 times per week prior to hurting my knee back in July. I just got back to working out there in the past 2 weeks or so. Cannot handle more than a couple classes per week at the moment with the knee. Despite what may seem as a high cost, I too feel that what get out of the place is well worth it. You cannot put a value on what it provides me. Even when I make it only 2-3 times per week. My membership allows me to be involved unlimited in all the variety of classes offered, with no extra charges. Of course there is Krav Maga, but there are at least 3 other styles of self-defense being taught in the same facility, such as boxing, MMA fighting, and Taijitsu, all available to me for no extra charge. There is Yoga, a couple different fitness programs, massages from a person, and a nutritionist on staff if I desired her services. The only thing I may pay extra for would be a unique seminar, a unique workshop, and there are extra charges for the live firearms training. But I get a discount on that also. I love the place. I enjoy the variety of interaction with defending against a variety of styles and skill levels. I really enjoy the classes with the active law enforcement and military guys and gals. Helps keep one abreast of what is going on out there in the real world.

As an employee perk from one of my past employers, I have lifetime access to most any of those little 24/7 places. I never go though. At enough gyms already.

There is a also a gym provided here on the premises where I live. I stop up there occasionally to complete a workout that I may have cut short at one of the other gyms. It is also enjoyable meeting other residents working out, or just using the pool and/or hot tub. It is all a free perk for living here. Sometimes I just cannot get to sleep. I will run up there and get in a workout or a session on a treadmill or elliptical, come back and sleep like a baby.

On a rare occasion, no where near as often as I once did, but I still like to stop at a Tae Kwon Do, Sanchin Ryu, Tang Soo Do doju just to somewhat maintain those skills. I have come to love Krav Maga best. I have earned belts in Krav Maga, Tae Kwon Do and Sanchin Ryu. I have not tested for any belts in Tang Soo Do. Have just not taken the time. But I like to hit a class now and then only because a personal friend of mine, and was once one of my employees, owns and runs the dojo. He is the black belt instructor for the local Flint police and they are there training with him. Kind of fun to workout with those guys.



CAsandie wrote:
3. What ever happened to separate women's areas within the gym?



Other than the locker rooms and showers, I do not recall ever frequenting a facility that maintained separate areas per gender otherwise. I have attended a gym that every other day was for only one gender. Such as M, W, F men only and T, Th, Sa women only. I prefer the mixed gender format.
No. 21     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Oct 20, 2017 at 9:59 AM     
The largest benefit from a gym, depends on what you yourself do at the gym.

Kind of like going to church.
No. 22     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Oct 20, 2017 at 5:07 PM     
My daughter goes to planet fitness but I never heard her mention any of the extra goodies that casandie has. I might mention this to her because she could probably use a massage chair since she has two jobs.
No. 23     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Oct 20, 2017 at 8:07 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

The largest benefit from a gym, depends on what you yourself do at the gym. Kind of like going to church.


So very true!

At least one day per week I shy away from my typical workout to participate in an extreme workout with a personal trainer. It has made a huge difference quickly. He calls his technique "muscle confusion".


Physical trainers really know their stuff! Muscle confusion is needed to reach the next plateau!

I do occasionally take advantage of the free personal trainers, nutritionist, etc.. And with Planet Fitness I like the option of attending other facilities on my one membership fee.


Does PF offer training and classes? Much like the massage chairs, is that with the black card membership? ($21.99/month). Do they have nutritionists? (very cool).

Massages can be enjoyable, but I simply do not take the time to use such even though many of the gyms I attend have such equipment.


What about the ultimate fitness (infrared vibrating machine)...lol, that thing makes me dizzy, but I do like the infrared feature (it's very good for our skin).

I essentially have memberships to 7 gyms


Wow -- you are like me with Churches! (I attend 3 now)!

My next oldest is my college gym at the local University of Michigan campus. I have free access as a graduated alumni


You know, I used to attend the gym at SDSU and loved it (I never investigated if I had alumni privileges, because I worked out at the military bases I worked at ... but this is a great idea to look into. . Thanks! It's a lot closer to my house!

I was there 4-5 times per week prior to hurting my knee back in July


I am starting physical therapy on my knee next week (until my surgery at least and just getting to this due to my Mom's medial situation). I'm hopeful about the therapy and highly recommend PT if you have not had this yet.

I still like to stop at a Tae Kwon Do


I have a Church friend working on his 2nd black belt who wants to train me after my surgery (I can't right now). I refuse though to call people 'grand master' and dislike that term used in Taekwondo. There is a Christian who goes to a Church I've attended with my neighbors and he is a teacher of Taekwondo but will not allow the name grand master. Maybe I'm being too fussy though (it just bothers me).

I have attended a gym that every other day was for only one gender. Such as M, W, F men only and T, Th, Sa women only. I prefer the mixed gender format.


The military gyms I appreciated as coed, because the Marines would help without hitting on you (they are forbid to due to potential Sexual harassment claims/their jobs 24/7 technically). I never had a problem with any of them and enjoyed working out with them!

Beyond that at college we had a female section (although it was not officially divided). The 24 hour fitness had a women's area (but not any longer ... at least the one that I phoned to find out). I'm not wanting my fitness plan disturbed or to be distracted (myself) if PF is a pick up place as you and Judy have found it to be I will go hours to avoid this for certain.

Thanks for your post and words of gym wisdom!

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TCG -- Your daughter needs the upgraded (black card) membership for the added perks. Here the basic ($10.00/month membership) includes the club and tanning and a t-shirt solely.

No. 24     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Oct 20, 2017 at 8:20 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

I'm not wanting my fitness plan disturbed or to be distracted (myself) if PF is a pick up place as you and Judy have found it to be I will go hours to avoid this for certain.



Although maybe some use it as such, I would not call PF a "pick up place". The participants are obviously willing, and it is quickly learned whom plays such games. I have encountered it at all gyms all my life except at the gym with the same gender only on differing days of the week.

I have seen even church used as a "pick up place".

All depends on the individual and what their goal is. No different than anywhere else. People that are hurting with needs and wants.
No. 25     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Oct 20, 2017 at 9:04 PM     
The women's gym here is so dramatically more expensive. I believe off hours can make a difference (I will find out anyway).





No. 26     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Nov 11, 2017 at 8:30 AM     
So doing my own report on PF. I could live in this gym (it's been quite pleasant so far)!!

I am finding a variety of ages, but all really kind people at the gym (this could be by location). I go on off hours (up early this morning which not a lot are) ...

The red light machine (called beauty angel) used along with the lotions (a separate purchase) does make one's skin extremely soft (not a concern likely men would desire, but just reporting my own experience). You should not wear makeup (if you do to a gym) if using this equipment. The vibration from feet to head is rather uncomfortable still to me personally and one should wear sun glasses as the light is quite bright). I do not use the tanning, but they are booths rather than tables.

There is a wide range of equipment that is placed precisely by anatomy which I appreciate (the same as the military gyms) and so I am quite pleased with the gym at this time...

I was able to take friends to enjoy a massage (but I am told the black card will not cover the massage chair and aqua massage for guests in the future [only the gym]. The manager is being nice on this, since I'm a new member.

All fresh new machines (you have to bring your own towel which might be the norm for civilian gyms/the military gyms on bases provided towels). The music varies from country to pop at my gym, but is not very loud and they have television for the stationary tread mills and bicycles if you bring your own headphones (which I do not personally).



No. 27     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Nov 11, 2017 at 8:34 AM     
I'm glad it's working out for you, Sandie.

(I don't use makeup at the gym either...:tongue: )
No. 28     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Nov 11, 2017 at 8:47 AM     
Storm -- Well, I'm shocked that you do not wear make-up to the gym! :-p (and thank you).

I also have evaluated the different massage equipment and I think the massage chairs are far better than the aqua massage (in my own opinion; opinions may vary).

No. 29     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Nov 11, 2017 at 12:19 PM     
my daughter's boyfriend is messin up. He is on steroids now and I think its so stupid. Its really going against trying to be healthy. while he is doing a workout to keep in shape he is also killing his body with steroids at the same time. He is fixing to switch to a supposedly better steroid to one that is not intended for humans but for cattle to make them fat. Although steriods are not addicting, the man's obsession with them will cause abuse of the drug and probably death eventually. In my personal opinion I think steroids make a man look ugly as crap and I would not even look twice a man on steroids.
No. 30     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Gary208   Gender: M   Age: 70   on  Nov 11, 2017 at 2:38 PM     
I went to Cardiac Rehab for 6 months before having the frau join me for a 3 month cycle.
I already had machines at home, but didn't know how to established a good workout routine. This is mainly what I learned at Cardiac Rehab.

Starting about a month ago, we stopped going there and began using my equipment at home, after I learned how to get the same workout as a machine they had that I didn't have.

They had almost all the same equipment as the gyms have, and the price was more than fair, 2/3rds less than a gym.
However, there were other costs involved, and a strict time schedule.
The drive to the Hospital, and the cost to park.

The amount we saved by doing our exercises at home has allowed us to upgrade to a better recumbent bike. We may upgrade our treadmill also, because the frau got spoiled using a commercial treadmill for runners.

This time of year, the price on exercise equipment drops drastically.
What was in the 230 to 275 price range last month is only 170 to 180 this month. The recumbent bike we were keeping an eye on sold for 269 bucks, but we waited and got it for 178 bucks with free shipping.

Ironically, the best exercise for getting the heart rate up is a simple 8" high step. The rehab class had oak boxes, I bought a rubber topped plastic one for 10 bucks, and it folds up to put away.

I guess what I'm saying is I can duplicate every exercise I was taught at Cardiac Rehab at home, on the same type of equipment. Or do an alternate exercise that works the same muscles in the same way.

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By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 2:32 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

my daughter's boyfriend is messin up. He is on steroids now and I think its so stupid. Its really going against trying to be healthy. while he is doing a workout to keep in shape he is also killing his body with steroids at the same time. He is fixing to switch to a supposedly better steroid to one that is not intended for humans but for cattle to make them fat. Although steriods are not addicting, the man's obsession with them will cause abuse of the drug and probably death eventually. In my personal opinion I think steroids make a man look ugly as crap and I would not even look twice a man on steroids.


Steroids are not only hard on the heart, but also cause cancer.

No. 32     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 2:46 PM     
Gary208 wrote:

I went to Cardiac Rehab for 6 months before having the frau join me for a 3 month cycle.
I already had machines at home, but didn't know how to established a good workout routine. This is mainly what I learned at Cardiac Rehab.

Starting about a month ago, we stopped going there and began using my equipment at home, after I learned how to get the same workout as a machine they had that I didn't have.

They had almost all the same equipment as the gyms have, and the price was more than fair, 2/3rds less than a gym.
However, there were other costs involved, and a strict time schedule.
The drive to the Hospital, and the cost to park.

The amount we saved by doing our exercises at home has allowed us to upgrade to a better recumbent bike. We may upgrade our treadmill also, because the frau got spoiled using a commercial treadmill for runners.

This time of year, the price on exercise equipment drops drastically.
What was in the 230 to 275 price range last month is only 170 to 180 this month. The recumbent bike we were keeping an eye on sold for 269 bucks, but we waited and got it for 178 bucks with free shipping.

Ironically, the best exercise for getting the heart rate up is a simple 8" high step. The rehab class had oak boxes, I bought a rubber topped plastic one for 10 bucks, and it folds up to put away.

I guess what I'm saying is I can duplicate every exercise I was taught at Cardiac Rehab at home, on the same type of equipment. Or do an alternate exercise that works the same muscles in the same way.



Gary, as I go through physical therapy for my knee (a gardening injury), I am 'amazed' at what I am learning. A seemingly small exercise that is isolated can be more of a work out than what appears to be more exercise/more complex. After my physical therapy is up (beginning of Dec), I look forward to meeting with the personal trainer and creating a new custom work out plan (actually I might do this before, but I can't fully work out on my right knee currently)....

But I too will be retaining and doing what I learned in physical therapy likely for the remainder of my life (it's good stuff)!

So I do hear what you are saying and I think it is awesome that you and your wife are disciplined enough to keep up with this!

I have to admit, I am not that disciplined now (although used to be, so hopefully will get there again). I'm finding myself having too much work always at my house (taking care of my Mom fully now as well as the 1/2 acre/home). Sooooo...I can focus at the gym and need this now.

I agree though that if knowing how to isolate and our bodies ... a good total body equipment or even a physio ball can work for doing most of the fitness obtained from the variety of equipment at the gym!

Thanks for your post!

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By:  Gary208   Gender: M   Age: 70   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 3:10 PM     
Hi Sandie

My bro-in-law has had both knees replaced now and has to go to rehab. The exercises they have him do are entirely different than the kind I do in Cardiac Rehab.

Every couple of hours I would get up from my desk and walk two times around my building. That usually wore me out, sometimes too much. I was so proud when I could finally make it three times around the building.

But there was one key element I was missing, which I was taught in rehab.

That five minute warm-up before you do anything is a major key in being able to do all the exercises without going into panic mode.

If I do the five minute warm-up, on level ground, then I can walk around the building for a half hour or longer, about ten to fifteen laps.

One thing they didn't teach me, until after I injured my neck, was never to look down while lifting weights. I worked my way to twelve pound weights in each hand for curls and lifts, until I tore a muscle in my neck, which still hurts. Doc says it could take months to heal up enough I can get back up to that amount of weight again.
So for now, I'm only using two pound weights, but going for ten minutes instead of only 60 reps.
Using those same weights, I also do a pedal motion with my arms, this is supposed to do almost the same thing as the hand operated ergonometer. I make 500 revolutions, which is what I could do on the machine in ten minutes. Seems to feel the same when I'm doin.

I figure by doing my exercises at home, I'm saving at least an hour or more of driving to the hospital, finding a parking space, and then driving back home again. Plus I'm not on a fixed schedule. So if I'm in the middle of something I can wait a few minutes until I'm done, before I head down to the house to exercise.

Have a great day!

No. 34     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Nov 12, 2017 at 4:30 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

my daughter's boyfriend is messin up. He is on steroids now and I think its so stupid. Its really going against trying to be healthy. while he is doing a workout to keep in shape he is also killing his body with steroids at the same time. He is fixing to switch to a supposedly better steroid to one that is not intended for humans but for cattle to make them fat. Although steriods are not addicting, the man's obsession with them will cause abuse of the drug and probably death eventually. In my personal opinion I think steroids make a man look ugly as crap and I would not even look twice a man on steroids.


Steroids are not only hard on the heart, but also cause cancer.

He knows but apparantely he thinks the benefits outweigh the risks. Im just having trouble understanding what tjhe benefits are. Muscle builders created in a labratory vs real muscle.
No. 35     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 9:24 AM     
CAsandie wrote:
So doing my own report on PF. I could live in this gym (it's been quite pleasant so far)!!

I am finding a variety of ages, but all really kind people at the gym (this could be by location). I go on off hours (up early this morning which not a lot are) ...

All fresh new machines (you have to bring your own towel which might be the norm for civilian gyms/the military gyms on bases provided towels). The music varies from country to pop at my gym, but is not very loud and they have television for the stationary tread mills and bicycles if you bring your own headphones (which I do not personally).


Although I am prone to hit the gym at any random time, I prefer to go in the morning as early as possible. But my PF is quite busy in the AM. An early morning workout often takes me considerably more time to complete than going at any other time except for maybe the 5-8PM range.

Anymore, the only off hour times seem to be for like a 2-3 hour period in the afternoon prior to 5PM or after 10PM at night. And our PF is quite large compared to others I have attended.

Personally, even at gyms that provide a towel, I prefer to bring my own. Thus if distinct enough I can recognize it, thus know I am the only one using it and potentially no one else mistakenly has.

Never thought much about it until you posted such, for I really do not seem that aware of the music unless I consciously listen. Country music is sometimes playing, and such is often depressing to the soul. Versus playing something positive and more upbeat and fitting for a gym atmosphere. But it seems rare for the music to be "too" loud.

When on the floor doing reps, I would say I am more aware of the music, for the beat assist with keeping my reps in rhythm. Were as when on a cardio machine I typically use my headphones to get caught up on news via the provided TVs, or listen to an audiobook or something else via my phone.

Coincidently, I just renewed my Audible membership yesterday. They gave me 12 credits good for 12 free new books and a $50 credit for use on Amazon towards the purchase of any new Amazon Echo regardless if already sale priced. Which they often are. I desire to get another. One of the most convenience improving and time saving devices I have ever owned.

I do not take my good $100+ headphones or earbuds to the gym. You can pick-up low cost earbuds at Walmart for $4.00 per pair and order for even less online. I keep extras in my bag in case I lose or damage a pair. But in my many years of going to the gym, I have never lost a pair. I did once leave one pair in the pocket of my gym pants and they went through the washer and dryer. They actually worked fine for a couple months, and then all of a sudden quit. But despite the low cost, that particular pair has a lifetime warranty. I simply have to take them to a Radio Shack and they simply exchange them over the counter. But that is now like a 39 minute drive to the closest Radio Shack.

For less than $30, I can get a pair of earbuds that are deemed "washing machine proof". Next time I place an order with DAK, I plan for a pair to be on the list.

BTW - I have read in fitness advice written by Arnold Schwarzenegger that getting your workout done in the early AM is the most effective time for the body. He shared he workouts at like 3 or 4 AM.
No. 36     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 11:04 AM     
I most generally do my PF workouts in the Noon - 5pm range and find also the gym attendance at a much lower level. After 5, the work crowd comes in, though if the weather is good (summer) or if it is bad (raining hard), that tends to mitigate it.

A few times on weekends I went around the 8pm - Midnight slot and there was almost no one there, which I liked.

Music at my PF is mainly Rap, which I detest, and often loud. If it is at a low attendance time, then the staff tends to crank it up even more. Earbuds are not all that effective in such a loud environment as the speakers tend to overwhelm whatever you are listening to.

I have a pair of Bose over-the-whole-ear headphones I got as one of my long-term service gifts at UPS and they for the most part are effective at cutting out the rap music, other then when the staff cranks it up even more. Once or twice I have considered lodging a protest, but have not done so as of yet.
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By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 11:22 AM     
BTW - I have read in fitness advice written by Arnold Schwarzenegger that getting your workout done in the early AM is the most effective time for the body. He shared he workouts at like 3 or 4 AM.

Arnold schwarzenegger used steroids so he could have worked out anytime. His muscles were created by a pill created in a labratory. The news said,
Schwarzenegger Has No Regrets About Steroid Use. ... bodybuilder Arnold Schwarzenegger admits to using steroids, but says he has no regrets. ... Still, Schwarzenegger says, he does not encourage anyone to use drugs.

If he had of stopped taking the steriods he would have regreted it becuaes he would have been all fat and flabby. Thats why its best to build real muscle without drugs
No. 38     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Birchman   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 11:52 AM     
Like Tom, I have my own equipment in my basement (weight bench, shoulder machine, treadmill, exercise bike, and a lot of free weights in a range from 5-50 pounds.

Having my own equipment has resulted in me working out 4-6 days a week for months now. Even a partial weight lifting workout is a big plus because it allows me to strengthen and build one or two target muscle groups toward higher levels than ever before. Right now my triceps and shoulders are at the highest strength level (and size) ever. Shoulders are my number one goal this year and I'm delighted with the results. Just today, as I crossed a street in my town a car approached as I had almost reached the other side, and a mid-aged and cute 35-45 something blonde lady that I had never seen before slowed down in her blue sports car as if to stop behind me, and looked over and smiled at me (I turned and smiled back) before she resumed her original speed. So others appreciate our efforts as much as we do, and this can be a big motivator too. LOL

I had a fitness membership in 2007-2008 that helped me add 30 pounds of muscle in a year and a half. Once you gain muscle weight and change your body, it tends to stay there. Sandical, you may remember that period of time in my life when I was at my ideal weight of 200 pounds [when our paths crossed in San Diego when I attended the collegiate academic conference in my field of study.]

When you have your own weights, even if you lose some of the muscle by inactivity, it's much easier to pick up weights and put the muscle back on again, since your body has a new "norm." As you age, you either gain or lose muscle each day, depending on whether you work out or don't. "Use it or lose it."

I cancelled my fitness membership in 2009 because it involved 10-15 minutes of driving each way, plus changing clothes, putting on coats, and excessive "transition time" just to get to the workout and home again. I was too busy with my job to block out one hour and 90 minute time blocks for each workout, and I ended up working out only a couple times a week in snowy winter weather.

The closest Planet Fitness to me is twice as far from my home (25 minute drive in good weather each way). Inconvenience of a fitness center greatly reduces the quantity of times I work out, but I like the price and perks offered. If I lived 5-8 minutes away, I'd definitely join.

Birchman
No. 39     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 12:51 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

BTW - I have read in fitness advice written by Arnold Schwarzenegger that getting your workout done in the early AM is the most effective time for the body. He shared he workouts at like 3 or 4 AM.

Arnold schwarzenegger used steroids so he could have worked out anytime. His muscles were created by a pill created in a labratory. The news said,
Schwarzenegger Has No Regrets About Steroid Use. ... bodybuilder Arnold Schwarzenegger admits to using steroids, but says he has no regrets. ... Still, Schwarzenegger says, he does not encourage anyone to use drugs.

If he had of stopped taking the steriods he would have regreted it becuaes he would have been all fat and flabby. Thats why its best to build real muscle without drugs


That provides nothing whatsoever in response to what I posted. Does not impact whatsoever that working out in the early AM is the most effective time for the body.
No. 40     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 1:57 PM     
all the fitness trainers say something different. Arnold's way is just his personal liking. If i were in fitness I would do whatever fit my schedule like my duaghter and her boyfriend do. They always go at night because he works a lot of 12-16 hr days. Plus he can work off the stresses of the day. But as far as body benefit, whats would be the difference? The body get a workout just the same no matter what time you go.
No. 41     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 2:27 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

all the fitness trainers say something different. Arnold's way is just his personal liking. If i were in fitness I would do whatever fit my schedule like my duaghter and her boyfriend do. They always go at night because he works a lot of 12-16 hr days. Plus he can work off the stresses of the day. But as far as body benefit, whats would be the difference? The body get a workout just the same no matter what time you go.


Just what do all the fitness trainers say? For I am in the process of earning my next level of certification and I know what they say. I communicate with certified trainers several times per week.

The body has natural rhythms were as throughout our day there are more effective periods conducive to specific activities. Science has proven this. Same as it has been proven there is a more effective time range to get our sleep, our blood pressure naturally changes such as lowers during the night and increases during the day, cortisol levels naturally change throughout the day, etc..

It can make significant differences in effectiveness as far in relation to what time one works out. But if personal circumstances prevent one from adhering to the schedule of our natural body rhythms, you simply do the best you can with the time you have available.
No. 42     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 3:39 PM     
Morning Work Outs

Many people find morning workouts to be their preferred choice for a variety of reasons. One of the most common reasons cited is that when you exercise in the morning, you get your workout out of the way. Science also backs up morning workouts in some regards, as morning exercise tends to increase your energy for the rest of the day.
In fact, a morning workout is a lot like breakfast in that it gets your metabolism going. Simply put, you burn more calories all day long just from the sheer fact of exercising in the morning. A study conducted at Appalachian State University also found that morning workouts are preferable if you want a better night's rest. So, is it better to work out in the morning or night? One more reason to go with morning is that it's been shown that people who work out in the morning are overall more likely to be consistent with their workouts. So pack your breakfast in your meal management bag, and dig in post-morning workout session.
Morning workouts certainly have their benefits. But plenty of people like to exercise at night as well, and surely science backs that up to some degree too. The real factor to consider is that consistency is key, no matter when you choose to work out. But studies have shown that different fitness goals are better achieved at certain parts of the day, and this is where working out later in the day comes into play.

Afternoon And Night Work Outs

Strength and endurance are both higher in the afternoon, while the likelihood of injuries is decreased. Exercising when body temperature is lowest, which is typically later in the day, around 4 or 5 p.m., results in improved performance and increased power. At this time of day, muscles are more flexible since your body is more warmed up than it is in the morning. Your reaction time is likely to be quicker, while heart rate and blood pressure are low. Protein synthesis peaks at this time of day, as well. Based on this, intense workouts such as weight training or hard cardio should take place during the late afternoon or evening. Not only that, but the calories provided by the small meals you have packed in your meal management bag are the perfect fuel for a nighttime workout. A study conducted at the Clinical Research Center of the University of Chicago found that those who hit the gym after work are more likely to achieve a higher degree of fitness than early bird exercisers. Blood samples showed that levels of certain endocrine hormones (cortisol and thyrotropin) significantly increased in those working out at night. Chalk this up as another reason to engage in more strenuous activity at night.



No. 43     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 4:51 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:
One more reason to go with morning is that it's been shown that people who work out in the morning are overall more likely to be consistent with their workouts. So pack your breakfast in your meal management bag, and dig in post-morning workout session.

The real factor to consider is that consistency is key, no matter when you choose to work out. But studies have shown that different fitness goals are better achieved at certain parts of the day, and this is where working out later in the day comes into play.


Read what you post.

The above is basically what I shared.

You simply like to incite arguments.
No. 44     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 7:20 PM     
Read the evening part too not just the morning. Anyway depends on if you want better sleep or more strength by better workouts. Whats your goal? There are benefits no matter what time you go. They have also already found that those that work out get as good night sleep as those who dont work out at all.

But its good to work out at anytime of day...morning or evening.
No. 45     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 7:50 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

But its good to work out at anytime of day...morning or evening.


I never said anything to the contrary.
No. 46     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 7:56 PM     
I didnt say you did.
No. 47     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Nov 16, 2017 at 8:05 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

I didnt say you did.


You essentially did. You are the one who asked "whats would be the difference? The body get a workout just the same no matter what time you go":

texascowgirl283 wrote:

all the fitness trainers say something different. Arnold's way is just his personal liking. If i were in fitness I would do whatever fit my schedule like my duaghter and her boyfriend do. They always go at night because he works a lot of 12-16 hr days. Plus he can work off the stresses of the day. But as far as body benefit, whats would be the difference? The body get a workout just the same no matter what time you go.


I simply responded to the effect there are optimum periods were as a workout is more effective than otherwise. And it appeared you then proceeded to dispute that, but essentially shared the same.
No. 48     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Nov 18, 2017 at 9:27 AM     
Hi Birchman,

Yes, it is difficult to have a long drive for one's work out. I had that problem when leaving the gov and although having base access, the drive is beyond 30 minutes away for me (and in CA traffic).

As I've stated to Gary though, the gym allows me time without distraction, since home does not, so it works for me. I am also liking the infra red toning/skin machine they have at PF (not to mention the massage chairs after a work out)!

Thanks for you post here!

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Storm -- PF provided a calendar with the heaviest hours and it starts at 4pm here (so just a hour earlier here and this only on weekdays). I have been going in the morning much like Survivor (I try to get a work out in before making breakfast for my Mom). I have gone during different hours though and have found as long as I avoid the peak hours of (noon to 1 and 3 to 7pm), it's less crowded (in my area at least).


BTW - I have read in fitness advice written by Arnold Schwarzenegger that getting your workout done in the early AM is the most effective time for the body.


I used to work out after work with a friend for years and I found my work out less effective after a full day of work and being tired.

(Our body is less tired in the AM, unless a difficult night's sleep).

Thanks for sharing this Survivor. I see the Terminator's point.

(Off to the gym I go now)!





No. 49     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 4, 2017 at 2:53 PM     
My Birthday was last week. Apparently when you check in at the PF counter such information is shared with them on the screen display. The young lady eagerly greeted me with "Happy Birthday Darrell!".

It was not very long before a dozen or more workout peers were wishing me B Day greetings. Mostly women. As well as the same young lady that greeted me at the door came and talked with me for a while related to B Days and properly celebrating them. After a B Day greeting, all either asked my age along with making a guess.

The closest guess was one that 14 years short, with another 15 years short. All others were 20 and more years short.

Most guessed me to be in my 40s.

Gyms and their benefits!
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By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Dec 5, 2017 at 10:58 PM     
Birchman wrote:

As you age, you either gain or lose muscle each day, depending on whether you work out or don't. "Use it or lose it."



Birchman


This seems to be very true, and at the moment especially true for me, as I seem to be going through my very own energy crisis.

Previously I was burning between 500-700 calories per workout, when I was consistent. Occasionally I'd get inconsistent and not hit the gym for a couple of weeks, and would end up starting over at approx. 150-200 calories.

My last 'restart,' about 2 weeks ago, I could barely do 100 calories...in fact, I could only do 50-75 - a dramatic drop.

Then I went to the DR for almost a week with no exercise.

Restarting again (now), it's even worse, alarmingly so even.

So I am determined to stick with it this time, even if I can only do 25 or 50 calories, and build from there.


But I'll tell you (Sandie) that I am even more considering the Black Card membership, if only for the massage bed and chairs, for my muscles are extremely sore even after a very light workout. I hope I can get past this current "energy crisis."

Incidentally (Sandie), I questioned the one girl at my PF who seems to know a lot about the Total Body machine, and she (still) wasn't pushing the vibration-good-for-circulation idea, but she ran off some info sheets for me and they do mention "low-medium-high impact vibration frequency."
No. 51     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Dec 6, 2017 at 10:08 AM     
I had an incident last night, possibly a heart attack. Information on my previous post is relevant to that, possibly. At any rate, I getting ready to go into ER.
No. 52     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Dec 6, 2017 at 10:18 AM     
Stormchaser wrote:

I had an incident last night, possibly a heart attack. Information on my previous post is relevant to that, possibly. At any rate, I getting ready to go into ER.



:group_prayer:

May you sense God's Presence and help .... please keep us up-dated.
No. 53     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Dec 6, 2017 at 10:22 AM     
But I'll tell you (Sandie) that I am even more considering the Black Card membership, if only for the massage bed and chairs, for my muscles are extremely sore even after a very light workout. I hope I can get past this current "energy crisis."

Incidentally (Sandie), I questioned the one girl at my PF who seems to know a lot about the Total Body machine, and she (still) wasn't pushing the vibration-good-for-circulation idea, but she ran off some info sheets for me and they do mention "low-medium-high impact vibration frequency."



Hi Storm -- providing you something off the Internet (maybe you can get a free test run, so you can see for yourself. ):

BACKGROUND: Circulation plays a vital role in tissue healing. Increases in muscle flexibility and strength, secretion of hormones important in the regeneration and repair process, blood flow, and strength of bone tissues has been attributed to whole body vibration (WBV) combined with exercise.


There is a lot of sources sites and a random study resulted in this conclusion:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4560014/

Acute bouts of WBV increase peripheral blood flow but do not alter skeletal muscle oxygenation. Vibration type appears to be the most important factor influencing both muscle oxygenation and peripheral blood flow.


(It's quite a vibration from toe to head though, so you might want to again ask for a free session to test it. Some find it too uncomfortable).

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Providing another couple of tid bits here (as for as benefits):

PF will 'freeze' your account if providing them with a doctor's note about why you will not be able to exercise for a length of time (for me this is the upcoming surgery) and not charge you the monthly fee and then re-enact your same membership when you return).

Also everyone should check with their health insurance to see if gym membership reimbursement is available (as far as gym fees). Many insurance companies are now covering gym membership.





No. 54     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 85   on  Dec 6, 2017 at 3:53 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

I had an incident last night, possibly a heart attack. Information on my previous post is relevant to that, possibly. At any rate, I getting ready to go into ER.


I had deleted my profile early this week to at least take a break from MC or depart for good, but when I became aware of Storm's situation, returned to offer my prayers.

Praying for you Storm.
No. 55     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Verbatim   Gender: F   Age: 65   on  Dec 6, 2017 at 4:06 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

I had an incident last night, possibly a heart attack. Information on my previous post is relevant to that, possibly. At any rate, I getting ready to go into ER.



My prayers are with you Storm...praying.
No. 56     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 85   on  Dec 6, 2017 at 4:11 PM     
CAsandie wrote:
Also everyone should check with their health insurance to see if gym membership reimbursement is available (as far as gym fees). Many insurance companies are now covering gym membership.


I am provided free gym membership and have been for several years. Totally free if I attend what is on the approved list. My enrollment fee only is reimbursed if I opt to go somewhere other than on the list. I do not care for the gyms on the list, thus I go several other places.

Much if not most of what I pay for gyms, if the tax laws do not change, are income tax deductions anyway.
No. 57     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 85   on  Dec 6, 2017 at 9:12 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

My Birthday was last week. Apparently when you check in at the PF counter such information is shared with them on the screen display. The young lady eagerly greeted me with "Happy Birthday Darrell!".

It was not very long before a dozen or more workout peers were wishing me B Day greetings. Mostly women. As well as the same young lady that greeted me at the door came and talked with me for a while related to B Days and properly celebrating them. After a B Day greeting, all either asked my age along with making a guess.

The closest guess was one that 14 years short, with another 15 years short. All others were 20 and more years short.

Most guessed me to be in my 40s.

Gyms and their benefits!


LOL. Today when I walked in, that same little gal greeted me with a Birthday card wishing me Happy Birthday again although the card is belated. It was addressed to me with little notes written inside by each of the guys and gals that work there. On note is from a name I do not recognize. Not sure which gal she is, but the note says "another year older and you still got it going on" - Bri with a couple hearts by her name. My workout peers were teasing about that one saying I have a secret admirer. But they do not know who she is either.

Two of those peers stated they also received cards from PF on their B Days this past year. Must be a new endeavor, for I have never received one from them in the past. Nice gesture on their part. When I opened it really expected to find some kind of certificate for one of their shirts, towels, or maybe even a new gym bag.

I have been checking out new gym bags. The PF bag given to me when I first became a member is getting somewhat tattered, and my Krav bag is simply too large and has way more gear inside than I need to tote to PF.
No. 58     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 85   on  Dec 6, 2017 at 10:18 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:
Birchman wrote:
As you age, you either gain or lose muscle each day, depending on whether you work out or don't. "Use it or lose it."
Birchman


This seems to be very true, and at the moment especially true for me, as I seem to be going through my very own energy crisis.

Previously I was burning between 500-700 calories per workout, when I was consistent. Occasionally I'd get inconsistent and not hit the gym for a couple of weeks, and would end up starting over at approx. 150-200 calories.

My last 'restart,' about 2 weeks ago, I could barely do 100 calories...in fact, I could only do 50-75 - a dramatic drop.

Then I went to the DR for almost a week with no exercise.

Restarting again (now), it's even worse, alarmingly so even.

So I am determined to stick with it this time, even if I can only do 25 or 50 calories, and build from there.


When you allow strength to dwindle away, muscle goes away too.

Storm - Have you checked out the PF 30 minute workout circuit? Calorie loss varies by how much the individual weighs, but a 200 pound person can effectively lose 380 pounds in the 30 minute routine with what is really not over taxing effort.

Many of the trainers at PF are likely going to tell you the calorie burn is more like 700+ calories, but I see few at PF do that aggressive of a routine on the 30 minute circuit.

My 30 minute routine is customized and designed by me to assist with the flexibility and strength I need for Krav Maga. Trainers that have evaluated by 30 minute routine state that with the personal aggressiveness I attack it with, I am likely burning as much as 750-900 calories, maybe more. But my 30 minute routine involves many more reps on the strength machines than PF instructs to do. I do the recommended 60 seconds cardio on a platform, then move to a strength machine were as PF recommends 1 set of 12 reps. I do 3 sets of 10-12 reps and back to a platform for another 60 seconds.

But that is not all I do in gym visit. The 30 minute routine is simply my warm-up and most my cardio before I move on to other strength machines and 2-3 cardio machines outside the 30 minute circuit. And I typically finish with 30-60 minutes on a treadmill. My calorie burn per complete workout at PF is estimated to be at least 1200-2000 calories.

I workout at PF 2-3 hours per day at least 5-6 times per week. And typically a Krav session later in the day. Because going to Krav is such a long drive for me, with winter here that will likely drop down to 2-3 times per week, but I will go for 2-3 one hour classes each visit rather than only 1-2 one hour classes per visit as it has slipped to. Those are aggressive hours, likely burning at least 700 calories per hour.
No. 59     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 85   on  Dec 6, 2017 at 11:26 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

Planet Fitness is offering haircuts at some locations as a benefit for upgraded membership (it's $10/month for basic and $21.99 for the black card). Most also offer things like hydramassage chairs, massage chairs, infrared technologies and tanning for the upgraded (black card membership).


I just noticed the $21.99 for the Black Card. They must have raised it since I joined. I pay $19.95 per month for my Black Card membership.

I rarely use any of the amenities it provides other than the ability to bring a guest for free unlimited, and the attending of other PF locations of which I do depending on where I am at when I decide to stop and get in a workout. I have three locations all within about the same driving time from me.

There is one friend that has never joined. Simply attends as my guest. Although since I left the corporate world, thus not working regular hours, visits with me have dwindled because I may be going at any time of the day. Used to meet me there in the evenings, but most the time I now go in the mornings. Morning workouts are simply much more effective for me. An evening workout used to be a good way for me to wind down and get a good nights sleep, but I find I am much more energetic and aggressive in morning workouts, thus seeing better results for the greater effort expended.

And quite simply, I seem to enjoy the morning atmosphere more so than the evening crowd. It is as different as night and day. Besides that, most my Krav Maga classes are in the evening except on Saturday.
No. 60     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 7, 2017 at 12:29 AM     
There is a Gym I pass on the Bus that is open 24/7 365 days a year, they never close. Might look that up and see if it is any cheaper than the high priced one near work. They have dozens of locations in the Chicago area, as well as NY and Washington DC.

https://www.xsportfitness.com/

They have a free 7 day pass, and $0 enrollment fee. No long term obligation. And they have a lap pool too. One think I don't like is they do not advertise their rates. You have to fill out a form and they will contact you. Phone # is optional, an email address is required.

I guess they have these amenities among others at this location:

"This location offers a basketball court, 4-lane lap pool, hot tub, saunas and steam room, a rock climbing wall, and a supervised Child's Play area with play maze."
No. 61     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 8, 2017 at 10:42 PM     
Sandie - Until you posted what you did, I had actually forgotten I have free gym access via a still valid corporate/medical perk. One of the gyms is just around the corner from me. I opted to take a look this afternoon. My closest location now has way more than when I checked a couple years ago, as well as over 1000 other gyms across the nation as part of the approved network. I may go there for a couple days to check them out closer, but they are going to have to be really special to pull me away from PF. I simply like them and the people way too much to leave that easily.

Survivor698 wrote:

CAsandie wrote:
Also everyone should check with their health insurance to see if gym membership reimbursement is available (as far as gym fees). Many insurance companies are now covering gym membership.


I am provided free gym membership and have been for several years. Totally free if I attend what is on the approved list. My enrollment fee only is reimbursed if I opt to go somewhere other than on the list. I do not care for the gyms on the list, thus I go several other places.

Much if not most of what I pay for gyms, if the tax laws do not change, are income tax deductions anyway.
No. 62     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Dec 9, 2017 at 11:22 AM     
Survivor -- Glad you did not delete (I notice you got a bit younger there).

I too noticed the prayer request and keep popping in hoping to hear good news from Storm (that he is okay). I too am swamped and planned on not being here much with the approaching surgery and my desire to get things done previous to the approaching date.

As far as PF ... I too love it.

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BF -- Never heard of xsportfitness gyms, but a lap pool is wonderful (swimming exercises every part of your body). I think biking though (which you do) is also one that is very healthy (transportation that is a total gym)!!

No. 63     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 9, 2017 at 11:44 AM     
Xsportfitness does not advertise their prices on their website.

I had to email them, now they want me to come in for a tour and 7 day free pass.

I guess they reel you in first then drop the bomb on you later.

I did see them advertising some price on their LED sign out front as we drove by but I couldn't see the price.

Will have to look for it next time I ride by.
No. 64     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 11, 2017 at 10:29 AM     
PF has been packed the past couple mornings since winter finally got here. Seems everybody thinks they are going to meet those resolutions made at start of the year by Christmas. Better late than never.
No. 65     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 12, 2017 at 6:50 PM     
Although I have a couple of gym memberships and essentially a full compliment of equipment at home, yesterday I picked up a set of kettlebells. A friend of mine was sent to Russia on business for quite a while. Although not in shabby shape when he left, he returned with more muscle and definition. Claims he got involved in working out with kettlebells while in Russia and they did wonders for him.

I have always heard they are a great alternative to weights as well as for many other exercises. But I did not do any research until recently.

Supposedly they are great for improving the core area and keeping the fat burned off around the waist. The only real effective thing for me personally for that area has been running at least 5K per day. Just not doing that since the torn meniscus and pulled/strained ACL side lined me for a while in the summer. I am back to running a mile or so 5-6 days per week, just have not pushed it for 5K yet. So looking for an alternative to knock out those calories when killing some time at home.

This friend also brought back a beautiful bride from Russia.
No. 66     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 14, 2017 at 8:04 PM     
After passing by the Xsportfitness place on the way to work I looked at their LED sign and it said, "As low as $9.95 per month!"

So maybe I should check them out!
No. 67     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 15, 2017 at 5:37 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

I used to work out after work with a friend for years and I found my work out less effective after a full day of work and being tired.

(Our body is less tired in the AM, unless a difficult night's sleep).

Thanks for sharing this Survivor. I see the Terminator's point.

(Off to the gym I go now)!


Not sure if I mentioned this related to morning workouts vs evening workouts, I know I mentioned that morning workouts align better with natural biorhythms, but I have read that natural blood pressure can play a big role.

Blood pressure is naturally lower early in the day, and can naturally increase as much as 20 points approaching later in the day. Thus another reason a morning workout aligns with the body naturally. As blood pressure goes higher, an individual is naturally less energetic and/or feels tired. Combine that with possible other health issues, and an evening workout may actually expose one to greater health risks.
No. 68     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  tominsd62   Gender: M   Age: 60   on  Dec 16, 2017 at 7:33 PM     
I read an article in the Christian Post about a man who founded a gym. It's called "Trinity Fitness". You could find it online. It sounds pretty good to me. It's not just a gym you go to and workout. There are fellowship opportunities.

Has anyone heard of it? Or, better yet, has anyone ever been to Trinity Fitness? I'm not sure if it's a gym for Christians only.
No. 69     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 16, 2017 at 9:18 PM     
tominsd62 wrote:

I read an article in the Christian Post about a man who founded a gym. It's called "Trinity Fitness". You could find it online. It sounds pretty good to me. It's not just a gym you go to and workout. There are fellowship opportunities.

Has anyone heard of it? Or, better yet, has anyone ever been to Trinity Fitness? I'm not sure if it's a gym for Christians only.


I have not been to one, for there is not one in Michigan. But I have checked them out online. They appear to have more of a cross fit aspect when it comes to fitness. Other than the cardio machines, their fitness equipment is akin to what is offered at the Krav Maga facility I belong to for such as krav fit classes, etc.. Not much in the way of weight training as far as the traditional barbell/dumbbell type equipment. More so resistance type equipment and routines that bring each individual's own personal body weight into play as the weight resistance.
No. 70     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Dec 20, 2017 at 10:04 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote: After passing by the Xsportfitness place on the way to work I looked at their LED sign and it said, "As low as $9.95 per month!"

So maybe I should check them out!


PF has a yearly fee ($39.00 and it often has it's enrollment fee [one time] set at a $1.00, otherwise there is a one time fee for this as well). I will be collecting a note from my doctor and PF stated they will refund my fees as far as not being able to use the gym after surgery.

Let me know how you like the gym if joining! :-)

Survivor wrote: Not sure if I mentioned this related to morning workouts vs evening workouts, I know I mentioned that morning workouts align better with natural biorhythms, but I have read that natural blood pressure can play a big role.


I've always been an early riser, but hitting the gym in the morning lends for more time during the day and also seems to make me feel better throughout the day.

Tom wrote: I read an article in the Christian Post about a man who founded a gym. It's called "Trinity Fitness". You could find it online. It sounds pretty good to me. It's not just a gym you go to and workout. There are fellowship opportunities.

Has anyone heard of it? Or, better yet, has anyone ever been to Trinity Fitness? I'm not sure if it's a gym for Christians only.


Thanks for sharing this (no, I haven't heard of this and how wonderful). I will look into this after surgery! Thank you again for sharing this!

No. 71     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 24, 2017 at 4:33 AM     
Well, I am up and off to breakfast and then to the gym really early this AM. Just have to get in a workout every day.

Then to a couple stores before church, and after church to Mom's for dinner. Maybe a couple more stores after dinner. LOL. Really, this is one of my most favorite days of the year to shop, and to simply be out and about. Love the atmosphere of the Christmas Season and the interaction with people.

Gonna be a busy day.
No. 72     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 24, 2017 at 5:19 AM     
Survivor698 wrote:

Well, I am up and off to breakfast and then to the gym really early this AM. Just have to get in a workout every day.

Then to a couple stores before church, and after church to Mom's for dinner. Maybe a couple more stores after dinner. LOL. Really, this is one of my most favorite days of the year to shop, and to simply be out and about. Love the atmosphere of the Christmas Season and the interaction with people.

Gonna be a busy day.


Here at gym now. Someone made a comment about their church service that reminded me I also have a short church service this evening. A Christmas Eve communion service l would like to attend.

Like I said, gonna be a busy day as well as a long day.
No. 73     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 24, 2017 at 7:38 AM     
Wow! I was surprised as to how many regulars I encountered at the gym so early this AM. All with the same thoughts I had, do it early or it is not going to happen today.

Regardless, the gym was quite empty until around 8AM. They then started pouring in.
No. 74     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 25, 2017 at 7:27 AM     
Planet Fitness is not open today. I may hit one of the little 24/7 gyms that I have a little electronic key for. I will get in some short workout today before all the eating starts.
No. 75     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Dec 27, 2017 at 10:10 AM     
PF is streaming confetti with people's New Yeart wishes written upon them to be dropped at the New Year in NY time square ...

A creative and cute idea/concept. You do not need to be a member if you want a confetti wish shared upon the streets of time square:

You can type your wish here (perhaps a wish for Storm's longevity/full healing to be sent from his gym might be in order)...

http://confettiwishes.planetfitness.com/

No. 76     Reply: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 27, 2017 at 10:36 AM     
CAsandie wrote:

PF is streaming confetti with people's New Yeart wishes written upon them to be dropped at the New Year in NY time square ...

A creative and cute idea/concept. You do not need to be a member if you want a confetti wish shared upon the streets of time square:

You can type your wish here (perhaps a wish for Storm's longevity/full healing to be sent from his gym might be in order)...

http://confettiwishes.planetfitness.com/



That is cool.
No. 77     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 27, 2017 at 10:48 AM     
Speaking of gyms. I learned this week the local gym of my alma mater U of M, is ranked as a world class gym. I have not been to that gym in a while, but just before Christmas I had a peer that is professional fitness trainer invite me to start working out with him there. I am a U of M alumni and do have a mem there.
No. 78     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Dec 27, 2017 at 6:32 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

CAsandie wrote:

PF is streaming confetti with people's New Yeart wishes written upon them to be dropped at the New Year in NY time square ...

A creative and cute idea/concept. You do not need to be a member if you want a confetti wish shared upon the streets of time square:

You can type your wish here (perhaps a wish for Storm's longevity/full healing to be sent from his gym might be in order)...

http://confettiwishes.planetfitness.com/



That is cool.




No. 79     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Dec 30, 2017 at 2:18 PM     
Today I attended the newest PF near me. I actually have 3 within a 12-20 minute drive.

I am not impressed with this one as much as I like my closest PF and most regularly attended PF, but they do have cloth towels upon request. There was some indication it is a practice that may be going away. Apparently too many people toss them in the trash rather the towel bins.

Otherwise, this PF is too small and has the newest vintage fitness equipment that PF is populating their facilities with. The older vintage equipment is much better and of a more professional level.
No. 80     Reply: Re: Gyms and their benefits   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 104   on  Jan 2, 2018 at 7:58 AM     
Thus it begins again for another year.

Although I did skip the gym New Years Eve and New Years Day, too much going on with family and friends both days, I got in some basic exercises at home.

It may take me the next week or two back in the gym to work off what I have eaten the past 2 days.

But on my way!