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No. 0     Original Topic:  Irenaeus -and his take on the end of the world   
By:  Jeff74996   Gender: M   Age: 56   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 9:35 PM   Viewed 1927 times     
I remember reading this a long time ago. I was certainly amazed that even way back in the beginning of the Church, people believed the same way I did. The following is from Irenaeus, Against Heresies, Book V, Chapter 28 (AD 175-185). I don't think Irenaeus was the only one who believed this, even way back in the earliest days of the church.

3. For in as many days as this world was made, in so many thousand years shall it be concluded. And for this reason the Scripture says: "Thus the heaven and the earth were finished, and all their adornment. And God brought to a conclusion upon the sixth day the works that He had made; and God rested upon the seventh day from all His works." Genesis 2:2 This is an account of the things formerly created, as also it is a prophecy of what is to come. For the day of the Lord is as a thousand years; 2 Peter 3:8 and in six days created things were completed: it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the sixth thousand year.


Thank you, Irenaeus!
No. 1     Reply: Re: Irenaeus -and his take on the end of the world   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 1:28 AM     
:goodpost::thumb_up:

A wonderful read and thanks giving indeed.

No. 2     Reply: Re: Irenaeus -and his take on the end of the world   
By:  shodan_carmen   Gender: M   Age: 67   on  Nov 5, 2017 at 9:32 AM     
So, Jeff, where does that put us now?

By the shortest possible reckoning of the time of Creation, the Six Thousandth year has been completed.
No. 3     Reply: Re: Re: Irenaeus -and his take on the end of the world   
By:  Jeff74996   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Dec 1, 2017 at 6:32 PM     
shodan_carmen wrote:

So, Jeff, where does that put us now?

By the shortest possible reckoning of the time of Creation, the Six Thousandth year has been completed.


And that would take us to the dawn of the Seventh Day, the Thousand Years of Peace, the Millennial Reign of Christ. Coincide that with the Three Days. The King was crucified and resurrected early on the Third Day. The earthly kingdom over which He would have reigned, had they accepted Him at that time also died. We are at the dawn of the Third Day as well. Maybe a resurrection of the kingdom is in order as well. Whether or not John 2 is somewhat of a parable - a wedding on the third day, along with supernatural new wine - well, I like the idea, but that's just me.

Having said that, there are a whole lot of things to consider. Let's consider Israel, God's time clock, as some would say. But perhaps today's Israel is something more akin to Abraham having Ishmael, trying to help God along with that promised seed, and now trying to help God along in restoring the nation. But when God restores Israel, it will likely be something more on the miraculous than what we see today, as we read in the prophets. So in my opinion, that has not yet taken place. Also, and this is very important - in considering past events of God's deliverance, He is never in a hurry. For example, when the time was right, and God brought Israel a deliverer named Moses, it took another 80 years before God used him to deliver Israel. And when Christ was born, the angels sang the praises to God in the highest, yet it took another 30 years before His death, burial and resurrection - and here we are two thousand years later with no peace on earth. Add to that the fact that we humans do such a lousy job with calendars, dating, and remembering history - our best scientists and historians could not even accurately locate the Jamestown settlement, and that was only 400 years ago - it was discovered in a completely different location than what was originally thought - and we cannot be very confident of the precision as to where we are on the timeline.

But generally speaking, I believe we're in the neighborhood.


No. 4     Reply: Re: Irenaeus -and his take on the end of the world   
By:  shodan_carmen   Gender: M   Age: 67   on  Jan 2, 2018 at 8:42 PM     
Irenaeus; "... it is evident, therefore, that they will come to an end at the sixth thousand year."