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No. 0     Original Topic:  Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 12:16 PM   Viewed 1198 times     
is currently a Tropical Storm with winds of 50mph but is expected to develop into a Hurricane soon. Where it will end up is still too soon to tell since it is far away.

Wouldn't that be something if it hit the same TX/LA area? :oops::icon_eek:

That would be really, really bad...

Tropical Storm Irma Forms in the East Atlantic and is Likely to Strengthen Into a Hurricane

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-irma-hurricane-irma-atlantic-ocean

Story Highlights

Tropical Storm Irma has formed in the eastern Atlantic.

Irma is forecast to strengthen into a hurricane.

Impacts to any land areas next week, if any, are far from certain.

Tropical Storm Irma has formed in the eastern Atlantic Ocean where it's likely to grow into the fourth hurricane of the season.

Irma presents no immediate threat to any land areas, but that could change as we look further into the future.

(HURRICANE CENTRAL: The Latest Coverage on Harvey)

The center of Irma is located about 420 miles to the west of the Cabo Verde Islands, and is moving west at 10-15 mph.

Current Storm Status



For the next five days, Irma will continue its general westward movement on the south side of a ridge of high pressure called the Bermuda high, which is centered in the central Atlantic.

Irma should move through a portion of the Atlantic Ocean where upper-level winds are mostly favorable for intensification the next few days. The only hindrance to Irma's organization is some dry air to its north and west.

The National Hurricane Center says that Irma could strengthen into a hurricane as soon as Friday.

Projected Path and Intensity



Irma will not reach the longitude of the Lesser Antilles (eastern Caribbean) until the middle of next week.

It's far too early to determine if this new system will pose any threat to the Lesser Antilles and if it will eventually ever pose a threat to other locations, including the U.S.

Check back with weather.com for updates on Irma through the weekend ahead for the very latest. We will be updating our coverage of Irma frequently based on the latest forecast guidance for its future track and intensity.

This is the first time the name Irma has been used for an Atlantic tropical storm or hurricane. Irma replaced the name Irene after it was retired for the damage it caused in the Bahamas and the U.S. during the 2011 hurricane season."
No. 1     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 12:22 PM     
Ya im betting invest 93L or whatever is going into the gulf. Depends on who fema or whomever is targeting this time. I watched joseph tittle, a psychic, and in jan of this yr he siad a huge storm like never before seen wjould hit but he didnt' say where and before the people could clean up they would be hit with another storm agian. So far he was right, a storm like never before seen hit tx so i bet the rest of what he said comes true too which is antoher storm hitting again before they can clean up from the first one. So im thinking ok that new invest 99 wathever is going to visit tx. Lets just hope Irma is nicer than Harvey
No. 2     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 12:46 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Ya im betting Irma is going into the gulf. Depends on who fema or whomever is targeting this time.


"Whomever" would be "Mother Nature".

And that's it.

Hurricanes have been forming and sailing across the Atlantic and hitting the American coast for thousands of years before FEMA was ever formed or came into being. Mankind does not have the capability or power to steer or alter the course of a Hurricane.

The energy contained in a Hurricane is millions of times more powerful than any Nuclear Bomb in existence. Same goes for the energy in a Volcanic eruption.

Don't be swayed or brainwashed by all the internet kooks out there despite all their many, "conspiracy theories" which are nothing more than that, conspiracy theories in their warped minds..

Don't you know how Tropical storms/Hurricanes are formed?

https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/hurricanes/en/

http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/101-videos/hurricanes-101

No. 3     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 12:48 PM     
Maybe it was and maybe it wasnt. But I personally do not beleive it was a natural disaster. I fully believe It was a man made disaster.
No. 4     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 12:56 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Maybe it was and maybe it wasnt. But I personally do not beleive it was a natural disaster. I fully believe It was a man made disaster.


So where is your evidence?

Other than the USACE being forced to open some floodgates to prevent levees from washing away, yeah that is contributing to some flooding and they warned it would but they have no choice.

That often happens at reservoirs around the country during high water conditions.

I know this for a fact being I worked at a Dam which had flood control gates.
No. 5     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 1:23 PM     
Yeah it's a man made disaster alright.

And here's how it works...

Man CHOSE to build houses, cities in areas KNOWN to be sometimes hit by devastating Hurricanes.

THEN the Hurricane eventually and comes hits just like they have been doing for thousands of years and either wipes all those house man CHOSE to build there in the KNOWN path of nature's destruction and those same houses either get wiped off the map or flooded out like we currently see.

Therefore MAN is the CAUSE of that destruction because he KNOWINGLY CHOSE to BUILD and LIVE there in the path of Mother Nature's fury which has been bombarding that area for thousands of years.

Just like I CHOOSE to live in a KNOWN Tornado alley of sorts here west of Chicago.

Almost everyplace in America has certain risks of some type from Mother Nature. Some areas are prone to flash flooding, some Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Tornadoes, brutal winters and snowfall, Volcanoes, drought, etc..

Choose which type of hazard you want to live with and prepare for those same hazards and fleeing them if and when you see them coming.

But don't dodge reality when they DO come and attempt to blame it on something "man" is supposedly secretly and wickedly doing behind the scenes.

To do so indicates a person is out of touch with reality!
No. 6     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 2:30 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

Maybe it was and maybe it wasnt. But I personally do not beleive it was a natural disaster. I fully believe It was a man made disaster.


So where is your evidence?

Other than the USACE being forced to open some floodgates to prevent levees from washing away, yeah that is contributing to some flooding and they warned it would but they have no choice.

That often happens at reservoirs around the country during high water
conditions.

I know this for a fact being I worked at a Dam which had flood control gates.


Opening the flood gates has nothing to do with it. Nothing about harvey was normal for a hurricane. It was being driven by man. There are lots of videos that explain what all that was abnormal about it. There are lots of videos out there about it being man made and directed and how it is done as well.
No. 7     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 4:24 PM     
All conspiracy theories by nutjobs with evil minds... :rolleyes:

It is said that when a lie is told often enough, people eventually start to believe it.

That is what has happened to some people.
No. 8     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 4:35 PM     
You cannot put Mother Nature in a box and say, "This is how you will behave and this is where you will go and what you will do 100% of the time because I said so".

Sorry, it doesn't work that way...
No. 9     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 4:37 PM     
they got something they been watching in the gulf under louisiana that they havent even been talking about, they just been watching it for 3 or 4 days now. One weather guy spoke about it today and only one. And irma is predicted to become another harvey but where it will hit is not known yet. How can one predict another harvey? That weather man must be paranoid.
No. 10     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 4:43 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

You cannot put Mother Nature in a box and say, "This is how you will behave and this is where you will go and what you will do 100% of the time because I said so".

Sorry, it doesn't work that way...

Maybe they can. In one video I watched and didnt fully understand, power plants or something are being used to put whatever in the air in massive amounts. You would have to watch the videos to understand how hurricanes are being created by man. There is info all about it. It doesn't really appear to be all that hard to do. I dont understand how they direct it but the info is out there as to how.
No. 11     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 4:56 PM     
my daughter called and said i was cooking and my electricity just went out and then right after a really loud boom happened. I have no idea if it has anything to do with harvey since we dont even have rain. But the electricic company said it would be sometime tonight before electricity restored. im about 15 or less minutes up the road from her and I have electricity. From the interstate which im across the street from she is one exit away from me.
No. 12     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 9:39 PM     
When the fuses and or breakers blow on a transformer or substation they often make a loud BOOM!
No. 13     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 10:06 PM     
would encourage folks to make up
their own mind. this stuff has been goin
on a long time...old news...nothin ta see here.

US Weather modification Patent's...

https://climateviewer.com/2014/03/24/geoengineering-weather-modification-patents/

No. 14     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 10:30 PM     
Am well acquainted with HAARP, cloud seeding, etc. And am a licensed Ham radio operator too and worked in the electronics service industry for years.

But I seriously doubt it has the capability to generate something as large and powerful as a Hurricane, or even alter it's course.

Hurricanes have been battering the southern coast long before electronics even existed.
No. 15     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 12:32 AM     
""Ben Livingston"" was the "Masta of Disasta"
((laugh))
No. 16     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 2:01 PM     
wow tropical storm Irma went from tropical storm this morning to a cat 2 hurricane now and possible a 3 later today. That Irma is building fast. I think its gonna be worse than harvey. I feel sorry for whoever it hits. I hope its not texas or louisiana either one. Right now tho the models have it hitting around the carolinas.
No. 17     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 2:48 PM     
Just woke up, I see she strengthened into a pretty potent Hurricane now while I slept. If she hits those same TX/LA areas even weeks later they are toast.

Floodwaters often take a month to recede fully. Another storm dumped on top of already waterlogged land would produce more flooding.

Harvey was a rarity though. For a Hurricane/Tropical Storm to sit in one place like that stalled for days is a once in a lifetime event.
No. 18     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 2:54 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

wow tropical storm Irma went from tropical storm this morning to a cat 2 hurricane now and possible a 3 later today. That Irma is building fast. I think its gonna be worse than harvey. I feel sorry for whoever it hits. I hope its not texas or louisiana either one. Right now tho the models have it hitting around the carolinas.


Why do you think it will be worse than Harvey?

It is common for Tropical Depressions/Storms to become Hurricanes overnight while still out over the Atlantic.

No. 19     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 5:10 PM     
Some newscasters believe it will be a cat 5 where harvey was a cat 4. But this one is moving alot faster than harvey. They are not saying it will but that it could. Plus this wasn't overnight. it went from storm to cat 2 hurricane in only hrs. this morninjg it was still a storm, hrs later is was cat 2 hurricane. I havent checkit it since then so im about to check it now.

Wow just checked it and its now a cat 3. all in one day storm to cat 3 hurricane. This thing is really kickin.
No. 20     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 5:26 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Wow just checked it and its now a cat 3. all in one day storm to cat 3 hurricane. This thing is really kickin.


Yes, we Storms tend to do that, which is why you don't want to mess with us!
:no-no:
No. 21     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 5:34 PM     
oh go chase a storm stormchaser lol im not afriad of you. anyway, well atleast its moving fast or it was at 18 so maybe when it hits land it will be gone much faster than harvey unless this one is being controlled too.
No. 22     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 5:38 PM     
Houston is forecast a cold front next week, which tends to fight against tropical instability and prevent such things as hurricanes coming in.
No. 23     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 5:43 PM     
Well thats good for tx. I got to check the storm models. Last i saw most models were not taking it into the gulf but taking it to the carolinas.
No. 24     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 8:44 PM     
https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/irma-major-hurricane-atlantic-ocean-intensification

"...For now, all residents along the East Coast and Gulf Coast should monitor the progress of Irma.

As UCAR scientist and FEMA task force lead Michael Lowry notes, storms that become hurricanes near the Cabo Verde Islands often don't make a U.S. landfall, but when they do, they can be noteworthy...."
No. 25     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 8:55 PM     
Here is a strange and interesting fact. More Hurricanes have been retired beginning with the letter "I" than any other.

"Beware the "I" Hurricane"

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/i-hurricanes-retired-since-2000
No. 26     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 9:16 PM     
So was Andrew, katrina, rita and Sandy and none of them start with an I. And harvey might become another one. But that doesn't mean the ones that start with an I dont have bad reputation. So Irma could mean serious trouble for somebody. But has every single hurricane that started with an I expired? Im sure there were some that didnt.
No. 27     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 9:23 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

So was Andrew, katrina, rita and Sandy and none of them start with an I. And harvey might become another one.


You misunderstand. What they are saying is the letter I has had more hurricanes retired than any other letter of the alphabet.

Of course Hurricanes having other letters have been retired, the letter I has had the most out of any other letter in the alphabet!
No. 28     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 9:26 PM     
One to Watch: Irma Could Become Threat

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/one-to-watch-irma-could-become-threat
No. 29     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 9:35 PM     
I watched the video but its way to early to tell where its going. I hope not the gulf, not that I want anyone else to get it either. maybe it will do like Gert or whatever did and just make a turn and go back in the water away from usa land.
No. 30     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 9:42 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

So was Andrew, katrina, rita and Sandy and none of them start with an I. And harvey might become another one. But that doesn't mean the ones that start with an I dont have bad reputation. So Irma could mean serious trouble for somebody. But has every single hurricane that started with an I expired? Im sure there were some that didnt.


Once again you are still misunderstanding what they are saying.

The letter I holds the record for number of hurricanes retired for any letter of the alphabet.

8 to be exact.
No. 31     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 9:44 PM     
I didnt misunderstand we are off of that subject lol. My last comment was referring to your last video as to where she may go.
No. 32     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 2, 2017 at 9:11 PM     
People wrote that hurricane Irma was gonna be a 6 or 7 and I said how is that possible when the only go to 5. She said well they are gonna make a 6. I have not seen any of the news videos that said it may be a 6 or 7. I have looked and found nothing. If anyone finds where this was said in the news please post the video here.
No. 33     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 2, 2017 at 9:21 PM     
ok wait i found this but I dont know where the chart came from or how reliable it is.






No. 34     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Sep 2, 2017 at 10:16 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

People wrote that hurricane Irma was gonna be a 6 or 7 and I said how is that possible when the only go to 5. She said well they are gonna make a 6. I have not seen any of the news videos that said it may be a 6 or 7. I have looked and found nothing. If anyone finds where this was said in the news please post the video here.


Tornadoes go to F5. Possibly you were assuming that hurricanes only went to a "5" level also. If you did, don't feel bad - I would have assumed so also.
No. 35     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 2, 2017 at 10:19 PM     
I dont keep track of tornados. that chart is for hurricanes and the highest hurricane is a 5 but that chart goes highter than a 5 closer to a 7 which means it is gonna be much highter than a 5. I dont know where they got that chart from but there is no such thing as a 6 or 7. Catagories are from 1 to 5
No. 36     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 4, 2017 at 9:19 PM     
Everyone watching the hurricane thinks its gonna hit florida but I kinda think it will go into the gulf. It could go either way though.
No. 37     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 7:22 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

I dont keep track of tornados. that chart is for hurricanes and the highest hurricane is a 5 but that chart goes highter than a 5 closer to a 7 which means it is gonna be much highter than a 5. I dont know where they got that chart from but there is no such thing as a 6 or 7. Catagories are from 1 to 5


Just found that out myself. Looks like we both were right.

IRMA now looking she's going to pound the North Coast of the Dominican Republic, the area I'm interested in re-locating to. That area is RARELY bothered by hurricanes, so we shall see.
No. 38     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 8:11 PM     
well things are changing all the time, maybe its gonna become a hot spot lol maybe you should consider relocating elsewhere
No. 39     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 8:59 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

Maybe it was and maybe it wasnt. But I personally do not beleive it was a natural disaster. I fully believe It was a man made disaster.


So where is your evidence?

Other than the USACE being forced to open some floodgates to prevent levees from washing away, yeah that is contributing to some flooding and they warned it would but they have no choice.

That often happens at reservoirs around the country during high water
conditions.

I know this for a fact being I worked at a Dam which had flood control gates.


Opening the flood gates has nothing to do with it. Nothing about harvey was normal for a hurricane. It was being driven by man. There are lots of videos that explain what all that was abnormal about it. There are lots of videos out there about it being man made and directed and how it is done as well.


Yes it does, they have already publicly stated hey HAVE to open open up floodgates in different areas which in itself is causing some flooding. In those areas, they have issued mandatory evacuations.

Yeah that sucks but it some times happens during flood conditions. It's either open up floodgates and intentionally cause flooding OR have an entire dam or Levee breach causing total catastrophic flooding completely inundating and an entire area with massive flash flooding.
No. 40     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 9:07 PM     
As expected, Irma has become a powerful Cat5 Monster with a current wind speed 185mph now about to slam into Puerto Rico.

They have issued an evacuation for all of the Florida Keys as well.

All of Florida has been declared a State of Emergency in advance.

No. 41     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 9:09 PM     
Projected path...

No. 42     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 9:19 PM     
https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-florida-southeast-us-forecast


What Hurricane Irma's Track Forecast Could Mean for Florida, Southeast U.S.
By Jon Erdman
Sep 5 2017 08:15 PM EDT
weather.com

Irma Continues to Strengthen

Irma continues to strengthen in the Atlantic as a Category 5 Hurricane.

Story Highlights

Hurricane Irma is likely to impact parts of the Southeast U.S. as an intense hurricane.

Its U.S. impact is likely to begin this weekend in Florida.

However, there is still uncertainty which areas may be hardest hit.

Irma will then likely track into the Southeast U.S. early next week.

Details on Irma's impact for the rest of the Southeast U.S. remain uncertain.

Hurricane Irma, already the most intense Atlantic hurricane in 12 years, is an increasingly dangerous threat to Florida and parts of the Southeast beginning this weekend.

(COMPREHENSIVE HURRICANE IRMA COVERAGE: Hurricane Central)

However, we're still far enough out that key uncertainties remain.

Here is what we know, and don't yet know, right now.
South Florida Threat

It's important to mention first the average error in the National Hurricane Center (NHC) forecast of the center of a tropical cyclone 4 to 5 days out ranges from 175 to 225 miles.

(MORE: Cone of Uncertainty's Facts and Myths)

That means pinpointing precise impacts in specific locations is not yet possible for the Sunshine State. However, Irma will likely remain a formidably intense hurricane as it approaches South Florida this weekend.

If Irma's center tracks toward the southern edge of the cone, impacts on South Florida would be much less severe.

If, however, Irma's center tracks toward the center or northern half of the cone this weekend, an intense eyewall strike on South Florida would occur, with potentially devastating, destructive winds, in addition to life-threatening storm surge flooding and torrential rainfall.



Hurricane Irma Forecast Path

Hurricane Irma Forecast Path

The red-shaded area denotes the potential path of the center of the tropical cyclone. The NHC does not issue the forecast path beyond five days out. Note that impacts (particularly heavy rain, high surf, coastal flooding) with any tropical cyclone may spr

Regardless, conditions in South Florida may go downhill as soon as Saturday morning, making any last-hour preparations difficult.

(MORE: Are You in an Evacuation Zone?)

For now, get your hurricane plan ready to implement and follow instructions from local government and emergency managers. This is not a hurricane you want to risk riding out. If a mandatory evacuation is issued, you are strongly urged to leave.
Rest of Southeast U.S. Threat

Beyond South Florida, the rest of the forecast remains uncertain, a common issue with hurricane forecasts beyond five days out and still over 1,000 miles from the mainland U.S.

This is illustrated clearly by ensemble model forecast tracks from the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF), compiled Sept. 4 at 8 p.m. EDT. The closer the tracks are, the more confident the forecast.

In this case, the spread of tracks remains from toward the Carolinas to the northern Gulf Coast, not to mention a few solutions tracking Irma over or south of Cuba.

(MORE: What to Know About "Spaghetti Models")

ECMWF ensemble forecast tracks for Hurricane Irma from the Sept. 5, 2017, 00 UTC model run.

The linchpin to the forecast is exactly when and where Irma makes its northward turn.

There appear to be three general scenarios.

Scenario A: Sooner Turn Would Resemble a Matthew Path

If Irma's center turns earliest relative to the other scenarios, that would raise the threat of an eventual eyewall strike in the Carolinas, with the chance of an eyewall strike along at least parts of Florida's East Coast, as well.
This would be similar to Hurricane Matthew's path in October 2016.

Hurricane Matthew's track history in late September - early October 2016.

Scenario B: Track Over/Near Much of Florida Peninsula

A slightly later turn northward could take Irma's center over much of the Florida Peninsula.

That would weaken Irma over land, but not enough to avoid widespread wind damage (downed trees, powerlines, some structural damage) even in inland locations of the Florida Peninsula, in addition to storm surge flooding that would occur at the coast.

(MORE: Beware of 'I' Hurricanes)

Scenario C: Late Turn Means Northern Gulf Coast Landfall

This scenario, assuming Irma turns later than the other scenarios, could spare much of the Florida Peninsula (especially southeast Florida) the worst from Irma.

Instead, this track could bring Irma over the eastern Gulf of Mexico, with a landfall somewhere along the north-central or northeast Gulf coast early next week.

This could allow for some restrengthening of Irma, assuming any earlier land interaction in Cuba or Hispañola doesn't take a toll, leading to a formidable hurricane strike on the northern Gulf Coast.

At this time, all three scenarios are still on the table.
Irma's Size = Threats Regardless

Irma will be a large hurricane, so, despite the uncertainty in its track, you can expect the following along much of the Southeast and at least eastern Gulf Coasts:

Increasing high surf along the Southeast coast by Thursday, with some coastal flooding possible near high tide from the Outer Banks south possible as soon as Friday.

Dangerous, life-threatening storm surge flooding to the north and east of Irma's path.



Irma's Current Wind Field Size

Analysis of Irma's current wind field size, according to the latest NHC advisory. Areas with hurricane-force winds shown in purple.

Furthermore, a threat of rainfall flooding and strong winds capable of triggering power outages, downing trees and perhaps some structural damage will likely occur to some degree well inland from wherever Irma makes landfall into a swath of the Southeast early next week.

Again, exactly where the heaviest rain and strongest winds will occur depends on the uncertain future path of Irma.

Residents from the northeast Gulf Coast to the Carolinas, including all of Florida, should check back with weather.com or any trusted source for weather information to get the latest on Irma, and heed any evacuation notices from

As the days go by, uncertainty will narrow and we'll be able to pinpoint specific impacts of Irma on the mainland.

(MORE: Retired Atlantic Tropical Storm and Hurricane Names)

In the meantime, now is an excellent time to develop or refresh your hurricane plan. The Federal Alliance for Safe Homes has an excellent site to help.

Jonathan Erdman is a senior meteorologist at weather.com and has been an incurable weather geek since a tornado narrowly missed his childhood home in Wisconsin at age 7. Follow him on Facebook and Twitter.
No. 43     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 9:25 PM     
The worst and most powerful section of a Hurricane is in the Northeast Quadrant.

That is where the main thrust is, the most powerful winds, and the worst storm surge is all located.

Right now Miami is predicted to be dead center right in that notorious northeast quadrant.

Hopefully it will steer elsewhere by the time it gets closer and the predictions become more accurate.
No. 44     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 9:31 PM     
Disasters Declared, Evacuations Ordered in Florida as 'Potentially Catastrophic' Hurricane Irma Approaches

"President Donald Trump granted Florida a pre-landfall emergency declaration Tuesday.

Gov. Rick Scott declared a state of emergency Monday for the entire state ahead of Hurricane Irma.

Officials have begun releasing water from Lake Okeechobee.

Mandatory evacuations have been ordered in Monroe and Miami-Dade Counties.

Broward County schools are closed Thursday and Friday, and all Monroe county Schools are closed until further notice.

Key West International Airport announced it will suspend airline operations Wednesday night.

As the dangerous Category 5 Hurricane Irma continues to strengthen southeast of Florida, officials have declared disasters and ordered evacuations throughout the Sunshine State.

The storm, which has undergone rapid intensification in the past several days is now the strongest Atlantic hurricane in the last 10 years, a dangerous Category 5, which could have severe impacts on Caribbean island nations and possibly the United States.

During a press conference held Tuesday, Scott confirmed that President Donald Trump had granted a pre-landfall emergency declaration. The order frees up funding for emergency protective measures such as shoring up beach dunes, preparing for evacuations and building emergency beams.

In the Florida Keys, the Monroe County Emergency Operations Center has been activated and mandatory evacuations have been ordered for both visitors and residents ahead of the storm. Vistors will begin evacuating at 7 a.m. on Wednesday, the county said in a Facebook post, while resident evacuations will begin at 7 p.m.

“If ever there was a storm to take seriously in the Keys, this is it,” Monroe County Emergency Management Director Martin Senterfitt told WPLG. “The sooner people leave, the better.”

A state of emergency has been declared for all counties in Florida, and residents across the region are trying to stock up on food, water and other essentials. Gov. Rick Scott activated members of the Florida National Guard on Tuesday and said that all 7,000 will be available as of Friday morning.

(MORE: Latest Forecast for Hurricane Irma)

So water, food, fuel and emergency supplies can be brought in quickly, Scott has rescinded all weight and driver restrictions on the highways and also suspended all tolls "for the duration of the storm’s impacts to Florida."

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers began releasing water from Lake Okeechobee Tuesday to drop its level before Irma's expected arrival, the Associated Press reports.

Spokesman John Campbell said the plan is to drain the lake for three days to lower its current level of 14 feet, as the storm could add a foot of water and cause 3 feet of runoff in the following weeks. The corps tries to keep the water's level below 16 feet due to concerns about the stability of the Hoover Dike, which surrounds the lake.

Tuesday the Key West International Airport announced it would be suspending airline operations Wednesday night due to the threat of the storm. All commercial flights are canceled through Thursday morning until further notice.

Gov. Rick Scott ordered all state offices to be closed in Florida on Friday in preparation for Irma.

Starting Wednesday, all schools in the Florida Keys will be closed until further notice, the Monroe County School District said in a statement on Tuesday. Broward County Schools Superintendent Robert Runcie announced Tuesday that all schools in Broward County will be closed starting Thursday. All Palm Beach County School District schools will be also be closed.

Miami-Dade County public schools will also be closed Thursday and Friday, NBC Miami reports. The Archdiocese of Miami said all elementary and high schools in Miami-Dade and Broward will be closed Thursday and Friday.

All Monroe county Schools are closed until further notice.

People with special needs will be evacuated from Miami beginning on Wednesday morning, Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez told WSVN. Miami-Dade County officials were already advising residents living in low-lying areas to start evacuating on Wednesday.

Miami Beach Mayor Philip Levine has asked residents to voluntarily evacuate ahead of the storm, CBS Miami reports.

“This is so serious," said Levine. "There are so many people that may want to get off this island. If you can, begin making plans now to leave Miami Beach.”

The University of Central Florida moved its football game against Memphis to Friday as a precaution, AP reports. The game, which was originally scheduled for Saturday, will be held Friday.

Residents in the Miami area are already getting "jittery" ahead of the approaching storm, according to the Miami Herald; bottled water was in short supply and stores are packed with shoppers.

“It’s gonna get crazy and I’d rather get it done before there’s more people and it’s chaos,” Mike Kizek, who was buying groceries at the Publix in Morningside, told the Herald. “If I waited, then all that would be left is cans of tomato sauce.”

Even in Northwest Florida, shoppers are taking precautions.

"I have to be prepared," Lauren Hook told WEAR. "With everything going on in Houston, with going through Ivan, I have a five-month-old at home. I feel like I have to be ready. I feel like I prepare like it's coming because probably one's going to come eventually. I'd rather be prepared. It's better safe than sorry."

Monday, he declared a state of emergency for every county in the state in anticipation of a possible strike from Hurricane Irma, which was upgraded to a Category 5 hurricane Tuesday morning with sustained winds of 175 mph.

In the declaration, Scott said he was instructing the director of the Division of Emergency Management to "execute the state's Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan and other response, recovery and mitigation plans to cope with the emergency."

"I have continued to be briefed by the Florida Division of Emergency Management on Hurricane Irma and current forecast models have Florida in Irma’s path – potentially impacting millions of Floridians," Scott said in a statement. "Today, given these forecasts and the intensity of this storm, I have declared a state of emergency for every county in Florida to make certain that state, federal and local governments are able to work together and make sure resources are dispersed to local communities as we get prepared for this storm."

He noted that while the exact path of Irma is not yet known, "in Florida, we always prepare for the worst and hope for the best. We cannot afford to not be prepared."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-florida-preps-impacts
No. 45     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 10:22 PM     
Trump declares Hurricane Irma emergencies as Florida worries megastorm could be worse than Harvey

"As Hurricane Irma barreled toward the Caribbean on Tuesday -- on a path that could send the Category 5 megastorm toward Florida -- people up and down the state were starting to prepare for the worst.

President Trump declared emergencies in Florida, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, which allows for the Department of Homeland Security and FEMA to coordinate disaster relief efforts there.

"If there is an evacuation order in your area, please follow it," Florida Gov. Rick Scott said Tuesday. "We can rebuild your home but we cannot rebuild your life."

The hurricane packed maximum sustained winds of 185 mph late Tuesday afternoon and was traveling west at 15 mph, the U.S. National Hurricane Center reported in its 8 p.m. ET advisory. The storm was roaring toward the Leeward Islands. Irma’s center was about 85 miles east of Antigua and approximately 90 miles east-southeast of Barbuda, the advisory said.
Hurricane Irma: East and Gulf coasts prepare for massive storm slideshow
Hurricane Irma: East and Gulf coasts prepare for massive storm

Forecasters warned the Florida Keys are especially at risk for possible damage. “People who are living (in the Florida Keys) or have property there are very scared, and they should be,” MIT meteorology professor Kerry Emanuel said.

Hurricane Allen hit 190 mph in 1980, a record for modern-day storms, while 2005's Wilma, 1988's Gilbert and a 1935 storm hitting the Florida Keys all had 185 mph winds.

Florida was in a state of emergency on Tuesday. At immediate risk were the small islands of the northern Leewards, along with the British and U.S. Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico.

"Some fluctuations in intensity are likely during the next day or two, but Irma is forecast to remain a powerful category 4 or 5 hurricane during the next couple of days," the National Hurricane Center warned.

FLORIDA GOV. RICK SCOTT DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY

Forecasters said there's a growing chance that Irma’s effects may be felt in Florida later this week and during the weekend.

Officials in the Florida Keys geared up to get tourists and residents out of Irma’s path, and the mayor of Miami-Dade county said people should be prepared to evacuate Miami Beach and most of the county's coastal areas. People across the state also stocked up on drinking water and other supplies.

“We’re just evacuating, getting out-of-town before everybody else does,” Luann Huff of Key West told CBS Miami, which reported that she was traveling to the central part of the state.

Miami's Deputy Director of the Building Department Maurice Pons advised against anyone staying near any of the city's 20 to 25 construction cranes. The cranes can "withstand winds up to 145 miles per hour, not a Category 4 Hurricane."

Important information regarding construction cranes and sites in #Miami, especially if you live in a high-rise building. #HurricaneIrma pic.twitter.com/t4AfyFyaID
— City of Miami (@CityofMiami) September 5, 2017

“For the Florida Keys, if you were to create the worst case scenario that is what we are looking at,” Monroe County Emergency Operations Center Director Martin Senterfitt was quoted as saying by the station.

Scott activated 100 members of the Florida National Guard to be deployed across the state, and 7,000 National Guard members were to report to duty Friday when the storm could be approaching the area.

On Monday, Scott declared a state of emergency in all of Florida's 67 counties. He said, “In Florida, we always prepare for the worst and hope for the best and while the exact path of Irma is not absolutely known at this time, we cannot afford to not be prepared.”

Gov. Scott Declares State of Emergency to Prepare Florida for Hurricane Irma https://t.co/tzao5UWxKg
— Rick Scott (@FLGovScott) September 4, 2017

Scott ordered the suspension of road tolls across the state on Tuesday, saying in a statement, "They will be suspended for the duration of the storm’s impacts to Florida."

He told media at a Tuesday briefing that there will be a mandatory evacuation for Monroe County on Wednesday morning, and that Miami-Dade county has been advising people in "low-lying areas" to begin evacuation on Wednesday.

If Irma hits the Florida Straits, the water there is warm enough that the already “intense” storm could become much worse with wind speeds potentially reaching 225 mph, Emanuel warned.

The storm’s eye was expected to pass about 50 miles from Puerto Rico late Wednesday.

TRACK HURRICANE IRMA

"Puerto Rico has not seen a hurricane of this magnitude in almost 100 years," Carlos Anselmi, a National Weather Service meteorologist in San Juan, told The Associated Press.

Both Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands expected 4 inches to 10 inches of rain, according to the National Hurricane Center advisory.

TROPICAL STORM JOSE FORMS IN THE ATLANTIC OCEAN

Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos Gimenez said the voluntary evacuations could begin as soon as Wednesday evening. He activated the emergency operation center and urged residents to have three days' worth of food and water.

A new tropical storm also formed in the Atlantic on Tuesday, to the east of Irma.

The hurricane center said that Tropical Storm Jose was about 1,505 miles east of the Lesser Antilles with maximum sustained winds of 40 mph. It was moving west-northwest at 13 mph and was expected to become a hurricane by Friday.

Fox News' Travis Fedschun and The Associated Press contributed to this report."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/05/fear-grips-florida-that-monster-hurricane-irma-could-be-worse-than-harvey.html
No. 46     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 10:35 PM     
Just like the Mayor of new Orleans did during Katrina.

These idiotic politicians should be in jail.

NRA threatens lawsuit after US Virgin Islands governor orders weapons seizure

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/05/us-virgin-islands-governor-orders-seizure-citizens-weapons-nra-threatens-to-sue.html
No. 47     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 10:49 PM     
As of right now, Tues. night, IRMA is showing signs of hooking north to the Carolinas and Georgia. It may not even 'hit' Florida (doesn't mean FLA. won't experience rain and storm surges).

Not a guarantee, and Florida should still be wary. The hurricane models will tell more in the morning.
No. 48     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 11:20 PM     
for the last 3 days all if not most all of the models have took it north and for all three days it has not done it. In fact I got a little laugh out of it becuase they said it was gonna turn and go north and instead they came back with the new update and said the storm turned a little southwest...totally opposite of what they said it would do. I dont have a whole lot of trust in those models anymore.

And now we have jose behind Irma and they are saying the same thing for jose, it will go north. I thinking ya thats what they said about Irma too for days and still waiting to see it.

Just tongiht I watched two different videos of two different weathermen and one said its gonna turn north and the other one said its gonna go in the gulf. Some of the weathermen dont even agree
No. 49     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 5:04 AM     
Hurricane Irma makes landfall in Caribbean islands

Published September 06, 2017
Fox News

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"What is Irma's potential for devastation on US soil?

Hurricane Irma, the most powerful Atlantic Ocean hurricane in recorded history, made landfall early Wednesday in the Caribbean islands.

At the far northeastern edge of the Caribbean, authorities on the Leeward Islands of Antigua and Barbuda cut power and urged residents to shelter indoors as they braced for Hurricane Irma's first contact with land early Wednesday.

Video of a flight through the eye of #Irma on #NOAA42. Flights on both the WP-3D Orion and G-IV #NOAA49 continue. Credit Nick Underwood/NOAA pic.twitter.com/9ini4bOnYF
— NOAAHurricaneHunters (@NOAA_HurrHunter) September 5, 2017

Officials warned people to seek protection from Irma's "onslaught" in a statement that closed with: "May God protect us all."

These are times for the most likely arrival of winds too strong to continue hurricane #Irma prep actions. Prep now!https://t.co/EtEGhob4E6 pic.twitter.com/TgM8s76VjI
— NWS (@NWS) September 6, 2017

The Category 5 storm had maximum sustained winds of 185 m.p.h., according to the U.S. National Hurricane Center in Miami.

The National Weather Service said the eye of Hurricane Irma passed over Barbuda around 1:47 a.m. Residents said over local radio that phone lines went down as the eye passed.

Weather officials said Irma was maintaining Category 5 strength with sustained winds and appears to be heading on a west-northwest path toward Puerto Rico, the Dominican Republic, Haiti and Cuba before possibly heading for Florida over the weekend.

In Florida, people also stocked up on drinking water and other supplies.

Gov. Rick Scott activated 100 members of the Florida National Guard to be deployed across the state, and 7,000 National Guard members were to report for duty Friday when the storm could be approaching the area. On Monday, Scott declared a state of emergency in all of Florida's 67 counties.

Officials in the Florida Keys geared up to get tourists and residents out of Irma's path, and the mayor of Miami-Dade county said people should be prepared to evacuate Miami Beach and most of the county's coastal areas.

Mayor Carlos Gimenez said the voluntary evacuations could begin as soon as Wednesday evening. He activated the emergency operation center and urged residents to have three days' worth of food and water.

More information on state preparedness efforts ahead of #HurricaneIrma here: https://t.co/604HVjsYdT
— Rick Scott (@FLGovScott) September 6, 2017

On the 108-square-mile-island Antigua, people who live in low-lying areas were staying with friends and relatives on higher ground or sleeping in churches, schools and community facilities built to withstand hurricanes. None of the shelters have yet been tested by Category 5 winds, however.

Many homes in Antigua and Barbuda are not built on concrete foundations or have poorly constructed wooden roofs that are susceptible to wind damage. Other islands in the path of the storm included the Virgin Islands and Anguilla, a small, low-lying territory of about 15,000 people.

President Trump declared emergencies in Florida, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, and authorities in the Bahamas said they would evacuate six southern islands.

Warm water is fuel for hurricanes and Irma is over water that is 1.8 degrees warmer than normal. The 79 degree water that hurricanes need goes about 250 feet deep, said Jeff Masters, meteorology director of the private forecasting service Weather Underground.

Four other storms have had winds as strong in the overall Atlantic region but they were in the Caribbean Sea or the Gulf of Mexico, which are usually home to warmer waters that fuel cyclones.

Hurricane Allen hit 190 mph in 1980, while 2005's Wilma, 1988's Gilbert and a 1935 great Florida Key storm all had 185 mph winds.

The northern Leeward Islands were expected to see waves as high as 11 feet, while the Turks and Caicos Islands and southeastern Bahamas could see towering 20-foot waves later in the week, forecasters said.

Bahamas Prime Minister Hubert Minnis said his government was evacuating the six islands in the south because authorities would not be able to help anyone caught in the "potentially catastrophic" wind, flooding and storm surge. People there would be flown to Nassau starting Wednesday in what he called the largest storm evacuation in the country's history.

"The price you may pay for not evacuating is your life or serious physical harm," Minnis said.

The National Weather Service said Puerto Rico had not seen a hurricane of Irma's magnitude since Hurricane San Felipe in 1928, which killed a total of 2,748 people in Guadeloupe, Puerto Rico and Florida.

"The dangerousness of this event is like nothing we've ever seen," Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rossello said. "A lot of infrastructure won't be able to withstand this kind of force."

A new tropical storm also formed in the Atlantic on Tuesday, to the east of Irma. The hurricane center said Tropical Storm Jose was about 1,330 miles east of the Lesser Antilles late Tuesday and its maximum sustained winds had risen to 50 mph (85 kph). It was moving west-northwest at 14 mph and could become a hurricane by Wednesday night.

Meanwhile, a tropical depression formed in the southwestern Gulf of Mexico off the coast of Mexico. The hurricane center said the system could become a tropical storm while meandering in the Gulf for several days before making landfall in Mexico on Saturday."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/09/06/hurricane-irma-makes-landfall-in-caribbean-islands.html
No. 50     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 3:03 PM     
Category 5 Hurricane Irma pounds Saint Martin with Winds Over 200mph!

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5566299392001/?#sp=show-clips
No. 51     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM     
Hurricane Irma slams Caribbean islands as Category 5 storm, Puerto Rico braces for impacts


By Travis Fedschun
Published September 06, 2017
Fox News

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Category 5 Hurricane Irma pounds Saint Martin

"Hurricane Irma roared into the Caribbean Wednesday, passing over the islands of Saint Martin and Barbuda with 185 mph winds as the most powerful Atlantic Ocean hurricane in recorded history which Florida's governor warned was "stronger" than the last Category 5 storm to hit the U.S.

The center of the storm was about 20 miles east of St. Thomas and 90 miles east of San Juan, Puerto Rico about 2 p.m. Wednesday, the National Hurricane Center said. It was heading west-northwest at 16 mph, passing over the northernmost Virgin Islands.
Police patrol the area as Hurricane Irma slams across islands in the northern Caribbean on Wednesday, in San Juan, Puerto Rico September 6, 2017. REUTERS/Alvin Baez TPX IMAGES OF THE DAY - RC117E41FAD0 Expand / Collapse

Police patrol the area as Hurricane Irma slams across islands in the northern Caribbean on Wednesday, in San Juan, Puerto Rico September 6, 2017. (REUTERS/Alvin Baez)

As the eye of Irma passed over Barbuda around 2 a.m., phone lines went down under heavy rain and howling winds that sent debris flying as people huddled in their homes or government shelters.

TRACK THE STORM AT MYFOXHURRICANE.COM.
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The forecast track of Hurricane Irma. (MyFoxHurricane.com)

The storm tore off rooftops and knocked out all electricity on the French islands of Saint Martin and Saint Barthelemy, and France has requisitioned planes and sent in emergency food and water rations.

The regional authority for Guadeloupe and neighboring islands said in a statement Wednesday the fire station in Saint Barthelemy was under more than three feet of water and no rescue vehicles could move. Electricity was also partially down on the larger island of Guadeloupe, where the threat receded despite danger of heavy flooding.

Photos des rues de Gustavia à #SaintMartin après le passage du cyclone #irma pic.twitter.com/XBb4bKeQnR
— La1ere.fr (@la1ere) September 6, 2017

French minister for overseas territories Annick Girardin expressed fear "for a certain number of our compatriots who unfortunately didn't want to listen to the protection measures and go to more secure sites," the Associated Press reported.

On Saint Martin, video posted to Twitter Radio Caraïbes International Guadeloupe showed damage to the Beach Plaza hotel, with debris strewn throughout the area.

[IRMA] Les dégâts à l'hôtel le Beach Plaza à Saint Martin dans le mur de l'oeil subit les effets de l'ouragan IRMA #irma #SaintMartin pic.twitter.com/Qsw0YsftAk
— RCI Guadeloupe (@RCI_GP) September 6, 2017

Another video showed Saint Martin as Irma's eye passed, with streets flooded and boats piled up on each other in a harbor area.

[IRMA] Saint Martin dans le mur de l'oeil subit les effets de l'ouragan IRMA #iram #ouragan #SaintMartin (Source : Rinsy Xieng) pic.twitter.com/e2j7e9KtOu
— RCI Guadeloupe (@RCI_GP) September 6, 2017

A subsequent video posted to Facebook by someone in nearby St. Barhts with the caption "disaster" shows massive flooding, with some cars floating in city streets.

Further east, Antigua and Barbuda Prime Minister Gaston Browne said the twin-island nation appears to have weathered its brush, saying in a statement that there were no deaths in Antigua.

Preliminary reports also indicate there are no deaths in Barbuda, despite widespread reports of damaged buildings and downed trees. The prime minister says the airport will reopen at 2 p.m.

As Hurricane Irma continued its track west, the storm's most dangerous winds, usually nearest to the eye, were forecast to pass near the northern Virgin Islands and near or just north of Puerto Rico on Wednesday.

Video of a flight through the eye of #Irma on #NOAA42. Flights on both the WP-3D Orion and G-IV #NOAA49 continue. Credit Nick Underwood/NOAA pic.twitter.com/9ini4bOnYF
— NOAAHurricaneHunters (@NOAA_HurrHunter) September 5, 2017

Hurricane Irma even forced Pope Francis to change his flight plan late Wednesday morning in order to avoid the storm, as he heads to Colombia to help solidify the South American nation's peace process. He was originally scheduled to fly over Puerto Rico and Venezuela before arriving in Colombia.

The National Weather Service said Puerto Rico had not seen a hurricane of Irma's magnitude since Hurricane San Felipe in 1928, which killed a total of 2,748 people in Guadeloupe, Puerto Rico and Florida.

"The dangerousness of this event is like nothing we've ever seen," Puerto Rico Gov. Ricardo Rossello said. "A lot of infrastructure won't be able to withstand this kind of force."

Since Tuesday, the island has opened 456 shelters for people living in vulnerable areas, El Nuevo Día newspaper reported.

Rossello said as of Wednesday morning there were about 700 people in shelters, mostly on the island's northeast coast and in Ponce.

DETALLES] Rosselló: “Debemos prepararnos para lo peor. El resultado de no hacerlo sería devastador” #HuracánIrma https://t.co/9kmSKHSzkg
— El Nuevo Día (@ElNuevoDia) September 6, 2017

"We must prepare ourselves for the worst," he said at a news conference. "The result of not doing so would be devastating."

While the impacts of Irma on the U.S. mainland are still to be determined, Florida Gov. Rick Scott activated 1,000 members of the Florida National Guard to be deployed across the state, and 7,000 National Guard members were to report for duty Friday when the storm could be approaching the area.

More information on state preparedness efforts ahead of #HurricaneIrma here: https://t.co/604HVjsYdT
— Rick Scott (@FLGovScott) September 6, 2017

"The storm is bigger, faster, and stronger than Hurricane Andrew," Scott said Wednesday, referring to the last Category 5 storm to hit the U.S in 1992. He warned Irma may bring "significant storm surge" to the state not seen during Andrew.

On Monday, Scott declared a state of emergency in all of Florida's 67 counties.

Officials in the Florida Keys geared up to get tourists and residents out of Irma's path, and the mayor of Miami-Dade county said people should be prepared to evacuate Miami Beach and most of the county's coastal areas.

Mayor Carlos Gimenez said the voluntary evacuations could begin as soon as Wednesday evening. He activated the emergency operation center and urged residents to have three days' worth of food and water.

President Trump declared emergencies in Florida, Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands, and authorities in the Bahamas said they would evacuate six southern islands.

Four other storms have had winds as strong in the overall Atlantic region but they were in the Caribbean Sea or the Gulf of Mexico, which are usually home to warmer waters that fuel cyclones.

Hurricane Allen hit with 190 mph winds in 1980, while 2005's Wilma, 1988's Gilbert and a 1935 great Florida Key storm all had 185 mph winds.

Bahamas Prime Minister Hubert Minnis said his government was evacuating the six islands in the south because authorities would not be able to help anyone caught in the "potentially catastrophic" wind, flooding and storm surge. People there would be flown to Nassau starting Wednesday in what he called the largest storm evacuation in the country's history.

"The price you may pay for not evacuating is your life or serious physical harm," Minnis said.

A new tropical storm also formed in the Atlantic on Tuesday, to the east of Irma. The hurricane center said Tropical Storm Jose was about 1,255 miles east of the Lesser Antilles late Tuesday and its maximum sustained winds had risen to 60 mph. It was moving west at 13 mph and is expected to become a hurricane by Wednesday night.

Meanwhile, Tropical Storm Katia formed early Wednesday in the Gulf of Mexico off Mexico’s coast. The storm has maximum sustained winds near 40 mph and is expected to strengthen in the next few days, according to the hurricane center. However, the storm is thought to stay offshore through Friday morning."
No. 52     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 3:14 PM     
Report: Florida Facing Gas Shortages Ahead of Hurricane Irma

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/09/06/hurricane-irma-headed-toward-florida-residents-get-supplies-gas-stations-run-dry
No. 53     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 3:25 PM     
Hurricane Irma's storm path: What you should know

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/06/hurricane-irmas-storm-path-what-should-know.html

No. 54     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 8:10 PM     
Deadly Hurricane Irma Left Barbuda 'Practically Uninhabitable,' Officials Say

The Island of St. Maarten sustained major damage as the slideshow at the below link shows. (Towards bottom of page).

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-storm-caribbean-impacts
No. 55     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 9:14 PM     
(Duplicate Map)
No. 56     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 9:18 PM     
MORE DANGEROUS THAN ANDREW
New evacuation orders as Hurricane Irma feared to strike Florida Sunday


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/06/hurricane-irma-may-bring-significant-storm-surge-to-florida-governor-says.html
No. 57     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 9:36 PM     
Category 5 Hurricane Irma pounds Saint Martin

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5566299392001/?#sp=show-clips
No. 58     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 9:39 PM     
Floridians face dwindling options to escape Hurricane Irma

Sep. 06, 2017 - 3:53 - Gas stations begin closing, rental cars are sold out and flights are in short supply


http://video.foxnews.com/v/5566926312001/?#sp=show-clips
No. 59     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 7, 2017 at 11:19 AM     
I just watch a video that irma was gonna slow way down or barly move from day to day and if thats true it might miss the low that suppose to push it in florida and enter the gulf instead.
No. 60     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 7, 2017 at 1:42 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

I just watch a video that irma was gonna slow way down or barly move from day to day and if thats true it might miss the low that suppose to push it in florida and enter the gulf instead.


Yes, for Friday over Cuba to Sunday over Miami it's forward speed will slow down.

Hurricane force winds will weaken some down to a Cat4 or so as it goes over land masses like Cuba.
No. 61     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 7, 2017 at 3:14 PM     
I'm am not talking about the wind speed, im talking about the storm sitting or not moving much at all. moving very slowly at some point in time. It has been crusin but its about to slow down. Instead of going 14 or 12 miles an hr its about to practically stop. Thats what i heard in a video based on the models as to how little it moves from day to day. This hasnt happened yet but its suppose to and if it does well it could miss the cold front that was suppose to push it into florida.
No. 62     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 7, 2017 at 8:11 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

I'm am not talking about the wind speed, im talking about the storm sitting or not moving much at all. moving very slowly at some point in time. It has been crusin but its about to slow down. Instead of going 14 or 12 miles an hr its about to practically stop. Thats what i heard in a video based on the models as to how little it moves from day to day. This hasnt happened yet but its suppose to and if it does well it could miss the cold front that was suppose to push it into florida.


Once again as I stated in the prior post it is predicted to, "slow down" it's "forward movement speed" from Friday to Sunday.

It's Hurricane force winds will also slow down slightly once it goes over land masses such as Cuba, etc.

At no time is it predicted to "stall", or, "stop moving" like Harvey did for 5-6 days. That was a once in 1,000 year event they are saying.
No. 63     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 10:19 AM     
Latest models show a shift westward - VERY bad news for Florida.

No. 64     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Vickie   Gender: F   Age: 62   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 12:35 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

Latest models show a shift westward - VERY bad news for Florida.



Great overall perspective, thanks.
No. 65     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 12:58 PM     
one of the news stations showed 6 models (lines) going into the gulf which I have said all along I think its going into the gulf before hitting whomever it hits. Doesn't need to go much more west to do so. But as i have watched all kinds of news stations, I no longer trust any of them. We will see where its going once it gets there. The news crew does not know exactly when it will go north. Their guess is as good as mine.
No. 66     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 1:28 PM     
And I dont believe the track on Jose. they said the same thing about Irma. These hurricanes are man made and directed and they didnt do it to not hit somewhere and cause damage.
No. 67     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 1:48 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

And I dont believe the track on Jose. they said the same thing about Irma. These hurricanes are man made and directed and they didnt do it to not hit somewhere and cause damage.


Hurricanes have been forming and slamming into the southern and east coasts of the USA for thousands of years.

Who do you think was creating and directing them back then Aliens from outer space?

:rolleyes:
No. 68     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 1:52 PM     
oh wake up bullfighter. You got alot to learn.
No. 69     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 5:08 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

oh wake up bullfighter. You got alot to learn.


Really?

Ok answer this question...

At which point did man suddenly take over the job mother nature has been performing for Thousands of years?

And why would mother nature suddenly decide to stop creating Hurricanes and man start creating them instead?
No. 70     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 5:53 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

oh wake up bullfighter. You got alot to learn.


Really?

Ok answer this question...

At which point did man suddenly take over the job mother nature has been performing for Thousands of years?

And why would mother nature suddenly decide to stop creating Hurricanes and man start creating them instead?

This is not up for argument since NOAA has already admitted to doing it. They have been modifying the weather for yrs. Research it all. You will be in shock. When asked why since they can modify the weather wont they calm down these hurricanes and the man from NOAA laughed before answering and I turned it off. There is all kinds of proof out there outside of NOAA outright admitting it. Don't disregard it as false until you research it yourself. Granted these non ending videos could all be lying or paranoid people but you should check it out for yourself first before saying yes or no.
No. 71     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 8:35 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

oh wake up bullfighter. You got alot to learn.


Really?

Ok answer this question...

At which point did man suddenly take over the job mother nature has been performing for Thousands of years?

And why would mother nature suddenly decide to stop creating Hurricanes and man start creating them instead?

This is not up for argument since NOAA has already admitted to doing it. They have been modifying the weather for yrs. Research it all. You will be in shock. When asked why since they can modify the weather wont they calm down these hurricanes and the man from NOAA laughed before answering and I turned it off. There is all kinds of proof out there outside of NOAA outright admitting it. Don't disregard it as false until you research it yourself. Granted these non ending videos could all be lying or paranoid people but you should check it out for yourself first before saying yes or no.


You have not provided one single shred of evidence to back up your above claim that NOAA has, "admitted" to creating and or altering Hurricanes.

Not even one link.

Not one.

In Court they call your above comment, "hearsay" which holds no water.

And your sentence I highlighted in blue is exactly right!
No. 72     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 8:40 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

And I dont believe the track on Jose. they said the same thing about Irma. These hurricanes are man made and directed and they didnt do it to not hit somewhere and cause damage.


Prove it!
No. 73     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 8:47 PM     
HURRICANE IRMA: 'THIS IS AS REAL AS IT GETS'

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-bahamas-florida-georgia-carolinas-forecast
No. 74     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 8:50 PM     
If you live in parts of FL, GA, SC, TN better get your flashlights ready!

Here are the predicted power outages...

No. 75     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 8:55 PM     
Tortola, BVI after Irma.

No. 76     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 8:57 PM     
Car overturned in Anguilla after Irma.

No. 77     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 9:00 PM     
Building damaged on St Martin after Irma.

No. 78     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 9:06 PM     
Cars piled up on each other at a Hotel in St. Martin.

No. 79     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 9:14 PM     
Satellite photo showing all 3 Hurricanes, Katia, Irma & Jose.

No. 80     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 9:20 PM     
The Worst-Case Hurricane Irma Scenarios For Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/worst-case-hurricane-irma-miami-tampa-orlando-jacksonville
No. 81     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 9:23 PM     
The Miami area has grown in population by over 40% since Hurricane Andrew struck it.
No. 82     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 9:38 PM     
Florida Keys issued mandatory evacuation orders.

'It's Not Clear That It's a Survivable Situation ... in the Keys': Officials Issue Stern Warnings as Hurricane Irma Threatens Florida

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-florida-tampa-miami-preparations-evacuations

"...Using the Baker Act, officials are detaining any homeless who still refuse to enter shelters.

"Today is the day to do what's right for your family and get inland for safety," Florida's governor said.

Former FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate: "Let me be blunt: anybody who didn't evacuate will drown, that's the risk...."

"... FEMA Director Brock Long said Friday 8,000 workers were being deployed to Florida...."

"...• Comcast has opened 137,000 Xfinity wifi hotspots across Florida to help people trying to evacuate...."
No. 83     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM     
Fools...

Mobile Home Park Residents In Miami Beach Staying Put, Refuse To Evacuate

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/mobile-home-park-residents-staying-put
No. 84     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 8, 2017 at 10:25 PM     
They must be suicidal. however I looked at the new 11pm update and it seems to be still moving west. I dont think the eye of the hurricane is getting on land in florida. This thing may just go right into the gulf and that would be awful for me.
No. 85     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 1:26 AM     
Actually, or rather, according to the guy I've been following on this, he now says the models have changed, and the hurricane may go up the WEST side of the Florida coastline, possibly making landfall at Naples.

The jetstream is/would be responsible for this, creating a high pressure area over the eastern seaboard and pressuring the hurricane to move further westward.

Miami and Miami Beach might now miss the Big One, though still being subject to some storm winds and perhaps surges.

This guy is fascinating. Again, I recommend giving him a listen...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRt4Nfo6c1o
No. 86     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 7:10 AM     
I like that guy too. However,I don't think they can predict it anymore becuaes it moves more west practically every single update. the newscasters been predicting its north turn for over a week and it still has not made that turn. another day of this westward track and im gonna start packing my car so im ready if need to leave.
No. 87     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 10:51 AM     
Not only has Key West been evacuated, but now Key West police have been given the order to evacuate. Some residents that had decided to weather out the storm are now also evacuating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNHUHnsRERQ
No. 88     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 11:01 AM     
it seems to late to evacuate
No. 89     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 4:53 PM     
IRMA SETS EYE ON TAMPA
Cat. 3 storm barrels toward Florida's western coast, residents told to flee


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/09/strengthening-hurricane-irma-shifts-west-bears-down-on-tampa.html
No. 90     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 5:07 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

it seems to late to evacuate


For many, that is exactly the case.

This is going to catch and trap a lot of people on the west coast of FL by surprise. They were so convinced it was going to skirt up the east coast instead. Many homes and businesses along the west coast did not even bother to board up their windows because they thought the worst would be on the east side of FL.

According to it's current track the treacherous Northeast quadrant of the storm will be slamming wind and waves into the shore causing a huge storm surge in many areas.

South Florida Resident: 'We Couldn't Get Out ... Flights Were Canceled'

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/09/09/hurricane-irma-south-florida-resident-couldnt-get-out-flights-cancelled
No. 91     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 5:15 PM     
FEMA Director: Rain and Wind Already Hitting South Florida, Get Out Now

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/09/09/fema-hurricane-irma-rain-and-wind-already-hitting-south-florida-get-out-now
No. 92     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 5:22 PM     
Storm Chaser Says Parts of Florida Will Look Like a Third World Country

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/09/08/storm-chaser-ben-mcmillan-hurricane-irma-parts-florida-will-be-devastated
No. 93     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 5:49 PM     
He's right too and not exaggerating. There isn't a thing any Government entity can do to save anyone left trapped in the Keys now.

If they are alive today they likely won't be soon.

Anyone still on the Keys are toast!

Sanibel and Captiva Islands outside of Ft. Myers where i vacationed years ago are going to get slammed with a storm surge I read.

FEMA Chief to Florida Keys Residents: "You're on Your Own"

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-florida-tampa-miami-impacts
No. 94     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 6:10 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

Actually, or rather, according to the guy I've been following on this, he now says the models have changed, and the hurricane may go up the WEST side of the Florida coastline, possibly making landfall at Naples.

The jetstream is/would be responsible for this, creating a high pressure area over the eastern seaboard and pressuring the hurricane to move further westward.

Miami and Miami Beach might now miss the Big One, though still being subject to some storm winds and perhaps surges.

This guy is fascinating. Again, I recommend giving him a listen...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRt4Nfo6c1o


The Miami area is still getting clobbered. This is a huge storm, and it covers the entire state.

45,000 are currently without power there in the Miami area right now according to Florida Power & Light's website:

http://www.fplmaps.com/#
No. 95     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 6:24 PM     
This map shows the extent of just how far from the eye the "Hurricane Force Winds" can extend! Everything you see in red is under a Hurricane Warning.

The purple is Tropical force storm wind Warning.

No. 96     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 6:33 PM     
This map shows the probability of Tropical Force storm winds, in otherwords SUSTAINED winds of between 39mph-73mph. Everything in purple will likely be subject to winds of those speeds. And that can still cause a lot of damage.





No. 97     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 6:35 PM     
Rainfall potential in inches:

No. 98     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 8:30 PM     
Storm surge predictions up to 15' for the areas in pink.

Notice the ENTIRE coastline of Florida both east and west is predicted to have at least some storm surge.

Hurricane Irma Spreading Tropical Storm Conditions Across Florida Keys; Dangerous Major Hurricane Strike Expected in Florida Keys Sunday Morning

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-bahamas-florida-georgia-carolinas-forecast

No. 99     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 9, 2017 at 11:44 PM     
Here is the outlook for Sanibel Island, FL where I went on vacation several years ago...

"...Sanibel Island Was Devastated During Charley. Will the Aftermath Be Similar?

Sanibel Island experienced a storm surge of 7 feet from Hurricane Charley and maximum winds near 150 mph. Unfortunately, due to Irma’s larger horizontal size and its angle of approach relative to the western Florida peninsula, the storm surge and wind forecasts have significantly increased from yesterday. We now can expect a storm surge that exceeds that of Hurricane Charley, with water level heights 8-12 ft above ground level. Irma’s strongest winds to Sanibel Island will occur Sunday evening with wind gusts approaching 160 mph. However, just as the forecast impacts from Irma on Sanibel Island have significantly increased from yesterday, it is important for residents in this area to realize that very small differences in Irma’s final path can lead to large changes in potential impacts. Therefore, residents of Sanibel Island and all across the region from Naples to Ft. Myers and now farther north into the Tampa/St. Petersburg area must heed evacuation orders and move inland given these forecast impacts from storm surge...."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-questions-answers
No. 100     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 1:33 AM     
Hurricane Irma has broken a number of records. Here is a good read...

Hurricane Irma: 'We've Never Seen a Storm This Strong'

“I have little doubt Irma will go down as one of the most infamous in Atlantic hurricane history.”


https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/09/hurricane-irma-closes-in-on-miami/539217/
No. 101     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 1:38 AM     

Hurricane Irma Sucked The Ocean Away From Beaches In The Bahamas
This natural phenomenon occurs after extremely powerful storms.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bahamas-water-receded-hurricane-irma_us_59b49f1de4b0dfaafcf84e86
No. 102     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 2:18 AM     
Irma's Notable Extremes: All the Historical Benchmarks It Has Hit So Far

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-extremes-records
No. 103     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 2:25 AM     
More Than 315,000 Without Power in Florida as Deadly Hurricane Irma Approaches

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-florida-keys-tampa-miami-impacts

"Former FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate was even more direct in an interview with CNN: "Let me be blunt: anybody who didn't evacuate will drown; that's the risk."
No. 104     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 2:58 AM     
Trump Stations 1,000 Marines Off Florida Coast For Irma Relief Operations

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/09/09/trump-stations-1000-marines-off-florida-coast-irma-relief-operations/
No. 105     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 3:13 AM     
How forecasters will ride out Hurricane Irma

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/09/08/how-forecasters-ride-out-hurricane-irma/648545001/
No. 106     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 3:25 AM     
As expected Irma has restrengthened to a Cat 4 before hitting the Keys.

Hurricane Irma Upgraded to a Category 4 Ahead of Life-Threatening Strike in Florida Keys Sunday Morning

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-bahamas-florida-georgia-carolinas-forecast
No. 107     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 7:43 AM     
Category 4 Hurricane Irma Landfalling on Florida Keys is Strongest Keys Strike in 57 Years

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-bahamas-florida-georgia-carolinas-forecast
No. 108     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 7:49 AM     
Hurricane Irma Hammers Florida Keys; More Than 600,000 Lose Power

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-florida-impacts
No. 109     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 9:24 AM     
in a new thread
No. 110     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 12:15 PM     
Hurricane Irma's Potentially Catastrophic Strike on Southwest Florida Just Hours Away After Category 4 Hit on the Keys

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-bahamas-florida-georgia-carolinas-forecast
No. 111     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 12:32 PM     
Crane collapses in Miami from Hurricane Irma winds

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/10/crane-collapses-in-miami-from-hurricane-irma-winds.html
No. 112     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 12:47 PM     
Elaine Duke: Irma's shift to west hasn't changed predictions

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5571183481001/?#sp=show-clips
No. 113     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 12:58 PM     
Tampa Mayor: ‘We’re About to Be Punched in the Face’

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/09/09/tampa-mayor-punched-face/
No. 114     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 1:13 PM     
Hurricane Irma slams Key West, Florida Keys: 'Everything is underwater, I mean everything'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/09/10/hurricane-irma-batters-key-west-florida-keys/651064001/
No. 115     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 1:32 PM     
IRMA: CATASTROPHIC STORM SURGE, DESTRUCTIVE WINDS HAMMERING FL

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-bahamas-florida-georgia-carolinas-forecast
No. 116     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 1:36 PM     
The Governor of FL is asking for your Prayers...

'Pray for Us': Hurricane Irma Hammers Florida; More Than 1.5 Million Lose Power

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-florida-impacts
No. 117     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 1:42 PM     
All Georgia Counties Under State of Emergency Ahead of Irma: Gas Outages Begin

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-georgia-preparations-impacts-2017-09-10
No. 118     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 1:55 PM     
Once the winds reverse however, the water will return with a vengeance flooding the whole area.

The only other type of natural event that can cause this phenomena is an Earthquake causing a Tsunami.

VIDEO:

Irma Sucks Bay Dry In Naples, FL.

https://weather.com/safety/hurricane/video/amazing-phenomenon-in-naples-fl-from-irma
No. 119     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 2:06 PM     
The #1 killer in Hurricanes is death due to storm surges.

VIDEO:

Irma Storm Surge Floods South Florida

https://weather.com/safety/hurricane/video/irma-storm-surge-floods-south-florida
No. 120     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 2:12 PM     
This video seems to just be a video advertising state farm over and over and over again.
No. 121     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 2:21 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

This video seems to just be a video advertising state farm over and over and over again.


Still a pretty good little video though.
No. 122     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 2:28 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

This video seems to just be a video advertising state farm over and over and over again.


I don't know where you're getting that from.

All I am seeing is the video of the storm surge flooding from the Weather Channel.

You may have some Malware on your computer or something.
No. 123     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 2:50 PM     
VIDEO:

Watch Roof Blow Off In Miami

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/watch-roof-blow-off-in-miami
No. 124     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 2:56 PM     
VIDEO:

Near Waist Deep Water In Miami

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/near-waist-deep-water-in-miami
No. 125     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 3:20 PM     
Florida's Largest Power Company Lost Power At Their 112 Man "Command Center"

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/09/10/largest-power-company-florida-just-lost-power-during-news-conference/651215001/

All the Counties in red have reported power outages.

No. 126     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 3:43 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

This video seems to just be a video advertising state farm over and over and over again.


I don't know where you're getting that from.

All I am seeing is the video of the storm surge flooding from the Weather Channel.

You may have some Malware on your computer or something.

I dont know. When i tried to watch it all i got was commercial after commercial for state farm
No. 127     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 5:08 PM     
Florida Light & Power reports 2.1 Million customers reported without power now.

They are stating many will likely be without power for weeks.

845,000 of those are based in Miami-Dade County.

Duke Energy, the dominant utility company in the northern part of Florida, has around 13,000 outages.
No. 128     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 5:18 PM     
Hurricane Irma Brings Wind Gusts Over 140 MPH to Naples After Marco Island Landfall; Catastrophic Strike on Southwest Florida Underway

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2017-09-10-hurricane-irma-landfall-florida-georgia-carolinas-forecast
No. 129     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 5:22 PM     
EXTREME WIND: Marco Island Blasted

VIDEO:

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/extreme-wind-in-marco-island-florida
No. 130     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 5:31 PM     
I dont think the miami weatherman is playing with a full deck of cards. He told people the wind is not gonna blow your home down, im not saying it wont blow some of your roof off or roof might leak water and he told them there might be some tornados but you dont need to get in a bathtub and throw a mattress over you. And to just put some ear buds in and listen to music so the wind isn't so scarey and they will get through it. but I mean who is gonna remain calm if their roof is flying away pieces at a time and its raining in their home.

I know he just wants them to relax but he kinda overlooked safety for them.
No. 131     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 6:20 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

I dont think the miami weatherman is playing with a full deck of cards. He told people the wind is not gonna blow your home down, im not saying it wont blow some of your roof off or roof might leak water and he told them there might be some tornados but you dont need to get in a bathtub and throw a mattress over you. And to just put some ear buds in and listen to music so the wind isn't so scarey and they will get through it. but I mean who is gonna remain calm if their roof is flying away pieces at a time and its raining in their home.

I know he just wants them to relax but he kinda overlooked safety for them.


I think he is having a rude awakening right about now.

I have already seen videos of entire roofs being ripped off of buildings right there in Miami.

A few Tornadoes have been reported there as well.

The Storm Surge has flooded downtown Miami.

here is a video showing the 1st floor of a hi rise flooded there, as well as the streets in the downtown Miami area underwater.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/miami-highrise-flooded
No. 132     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 6:42 PM     
Just talked to an older guy who is here regularly at Dunkin Donuts. He is originally from Puerto Rico so I asked him, "if he has any Family down there?"

He said "yes he just talked to them this morning and they are alright. They live on the north side of the island where the Hurricane hit."

He said "most of the Houses near the coast including the roofs are built of concrete, but houses in the interior of the island are built of wood."
No. 133     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 7:15 PM     
‘People are roaming like zombies.’ Virgin Islands stagger after storm passes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/people-are-roaming-like-zombies-virgin-islands-stagger-after-storm-passes/2017/09/10/d428f16e-965a-11e7-b569-3360011663b4_story.html?utm_term=.5bf4180b4389
No. 134     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 7:20 PM     
9 looting suspects caught on camera later arrested in Ft. Lauderdale

http://abc7ny.com/9-looting-suspects-arrested-in-ft-lauderdale/2400745/
No. 135     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 7:24 PM     
Watch: Dual Tornadoes Touch Down as Irma Ravages Florida

http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/09/970539-watch-dual-tornadoes-touch-irma-ravages-florida/
No. 136     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 8:11 PM     
Every week we read a few verses from the book of Proverbs in our study of the Gospel. After more than three years, we just completed the book of Psalms. These verses were read this week. How relevant are these even now?(!)

Proverbs 1: 24 Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded;
25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh;
27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you.
28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD:
30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof.
31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices.
32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them.
33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil.

Posted as a separate thread too
No. 137     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 9:46 PM     
Aerial Views Of The Devastation Left behind In Naples, FL

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/irmas-wind-and-rain-pummeled-naples
No. 138     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 9:50 PM     
'SAY A PRAYER' FOR FLORIDA
Tampa braces for Irma destruction as Cat. 2 hurricane marches up coast


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/10/hurricane-irma-powers-up-as-it-nears-florida-keys-back-to-category-4.html
No. 139     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 10:50 PM     
Hurricane Irma strands manatees on beach -- until Floridians come to the rescue

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/10/hurricane-irma-strands-manatees-on-beach-until-floridians-come-to-rescue.html

No. 140     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 10:59 PM     
Glass panels plummet from 85-story Miami building after Irma hits

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/10/glass-panels-plummet-from-85-story-miami-building-after-irma-hits.html

No. 141     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 10, 2017 at 11:11 PM     
More Than 3.3 Million Without Power as Irma Continues Assault on Florida

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-florida-naples-orlando-tampa-jacksonville-tallahassee-impacts
No. 142     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 2:20 AM     
Keep the stories coming//
No. 143     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 3:19 AM     
Cape Coral, FL

No. 144     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 3:28 AM     
4.1 Million without power now in FL.

Irma Leaves Millions Without Power in Florida As It Continues Its Assault


https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-florida-naples-orlando-tampa-jacksonville-tallahassee-impacts
No. 145     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 3:31 AM     
First-Ever Tropical Storm Warning Issued in Atlanta as Georgia Braces for Irma

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-georgia-preparations-impacts-2017-09-10
No. 146     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 3:57 AM     
FLORIDIANS STUCK IN DARKNESS
Nearly half of the state without power as Hurricane Irma thrashes Tampa


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/11/hurricane-irma-nearly-half-florida-in-dark-tampa-takes-pounding.html
No. 147     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 4:28 PM     
Irma Continues Its Assault As Storm Surge Brings Flash Flooding In 3 States; 6 Deaths Reported In Florida and Georgia

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/irma-aftermath-florida-south-carolina-georgia
No. 148     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 4:40 PM     
Florida Keys a Total Disaster After Cat4 Strike.

Estimated 10,000 Florida Keys Residents Who Rode Out Irma May Need to Be Evacuated, U.S. Dept. of Defense Says


https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/florida-keys-hurricane-irma-humanitarian-crisis
No. 149     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 4:42 PM     
Flooding in Jacksonville, FL.

No. 150     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 4:44 PM     
East Naples, FL.

No. 151     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 4:48 PM     
Gas Station in Leesburg, FL.

No. 152     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 4:50 PM     
Van in sinkhole in Winter Springs, FL.

No. 153     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 4:57 PM     
Jacksonville, FL.

No. 154     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 5:24 PM     
Flash Flood Emergency Declared in Charleston, SC: Irma Prompts Water Rescues, Massive Power Outages

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2017-09-11-hurricane-irma-north-carolina-south-carolina-impacts
No. 155     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 5:26 PM     
Tropical Storm Irma's Next Move:

VIDEO:

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/tropical-storm-irmas-next-move-0
No. 156     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 5:36 PM     
TRAIL OF DESTRUCTION: Officials warn residents of Florida Keys to stay away as scope of damage emerges

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/11/irma-s-trail-destruction-in-florida-keys-revealed.html
No. 157     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Tavita   Gender: M   Age: 82   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 8:21 PM     
I read that St Pete's Beach has been in the path of Irma. Wasn't that Sandi (Beachbrat)'s home. Is she still there and is anyone in touch with her? I do trust she is okay.
No. 158     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 11, 2017 at 8:28 PM     
I use to have to her number in my old phone. If I can find my old phone I will get the number and call her. My old phone been done away with long time ago. But I look for it.
No. 159     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 12:21 AM     
IRMA'S WRATH: OVER 500 MILES OF DESTRUCTION IN SOUTHEAST

6.7 Million without power in FL.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/irma-aftermath-florida-south-carolina-georgia
No. 160     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 12:28 AM     
Looks like Tropical Depression Irma is headed up to IL eventually.

That might bring a little rain but that's about it.

Winds will be down to 25mph by the time it reaches Nashville.

I don't think it will have anywhere near the impact up here in Chicago that Hurricane Sandy did generating 20' + waves along the Lake Michigan Shoreline!
No. 161     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 12:37 AM     
Hurricane Irma's Most Unforgettable Moments

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-most-unforgettable-moments
No. 162     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 12:40 AM     
Caribbean Crushed: Islands Now Uninhabitable

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/deadly-hurricane-irma-caribbean-impacts-0
No. 163     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 2:04 AM     
CARRIER HEADS TO THE KEYS
USS Abraham Lincoln to be employed in search-and-rescue effort after Irma


"...Statewide, an estimated 13 million people, or two-thirds of Florida's population, remained without power. That's more than the population of New York and Los Angeles combined. Officials warned it could take weeks for electricity to be restored to everyone...."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/12/hurricane-irma-us-navy-dispatches-carrier-to-help-search-and-rescue-operations-in-florida-keys.html
No. 164     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 8:09 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:



"...Statewide, an estimated 13 million people, or two-thirds of Florida's population, remained without power. That's more than the population of New York and Los Angeles combined. Officials warned it could take weeks for electricity to be restored to everyone...."



Just read something that I had not considered. As the above quoted statement says, no power for 2/3rds of Florida.

Florida, where Sept. temps tend to be in the 90's.

I remember a comment made to me by my (former) father-in-law.
"Air-conditioning made the South."

No power.

No air-conditioning.

No electric fans.

90 degrees.

Think about it.
No. 165     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 10:24 AM     
And high HUMIDITY down there too!

Yep that in itself would add to some pretty unpleasant living conditions.

I remember getting out of the shower when camping on Sanibel Island and the sweat was just pouring off of me, lol.

It was like a sauna. It was towards the end of spring and early summer. It was ok down by the beach with the breeze off of the gulf, but once you got a little inland it got a little toasty.

I'll take that dry desert heat anyday over that stuff!
No. 166     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 10:35 AM     
IRMA'S CRISIS: NAVY SENT TO FLORIDA

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/irma-aftermath-florida-south-carolina-georgia
No. 167     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 10:49 AM     
This is no exaggeration either.

I remember when the Plainfield F5 Tornado of 1990 ripped through our neighborhood in Joliet where I was living.

It knocked hundreds of big old growth trees down as well as power lines.

All those trees have to be cut and cleared before electrical crews can even enter the areas.

Some areas near me were without power for weeks before they were able to restore it all.

And by the time it had reached us, it wasn't even a Tornado any longer, but still high winds. We had caught the tail end of it.

Florida Utility Says It Could Take Weeks to Restore Power to Parts of State

"...Ahead of the storm that toppled trees and power lines throughout the state, FPL positioned roughly 17,000 restoration workers from 30 states to be ready to begin the long road to restoration. ..."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/florida-power-electricity-irma
No. 168     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 11:03 AM     
1st Flyover Of Ravaged Keys

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/seeing-irmas-damage-from-the-air

No. 169     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 11:09 AM     
After I left the gym this AM, I ran over to The Home Depot to pick up a few things that I resell that they stock. While there I noticed Florida licensed plated contactor trucks/vans in the lot with such as "Florida Hurricane Recovery Specialists", etc. on the side. Appears they were loading up with required materials.

Surprised to see them this far north to obtain such with small individual vehicles. Maybe no other means of transportation available. I would also think such materials would be available closer to the scene. But it is quite possible we here in Michigan are sitting on an excess of such materials. Every week for months I am seeing and hearing in the news of our demand for housing, but not enough available workforce to build and/or repair/update what is scheduled.
No. 170     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 11:19 AM     
HELLISH HOMECOMING: Floridians return to damaged homes, rotting food, soaring temps and no power

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/12/hurricane-irma-leaves-millions-without-power-in-florida-as-evacuees-return-home.html
No. 171     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 12:03 PM     
Hurricane Irma leaves 1 million Georgia residents without electricity

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/12/hurricane-irma-leaves-1-million-georgia-residents-without-electricity.html
No. 172     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 3:28 PM     
And she's a Woman...

Soldier cancels wedding to deploy for Hurricane Irma relief

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/12/soldier-cancels-wedding-to-deploy-for-hurricane-irma-relief.html
No. 173     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 3:45 PM     
I'd say that Manager is likely toast....

Pizza Hut threatens evacuating Florida employees with disciplinary action

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2017/09/11/pizza-hut-threatens-evacuating-florida-employees-with-disciplinary-action.html
No. 174     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 5:04 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

After I left the gym this AM, I ran over to The Home Depot to pick up a few things that I resell that they stock. While there I noticed Florida licensed plated contactor trucks/vans in the lot with such as "Florida Hurricane Recovery Specialists", etc. on the side. Appears they were loading up with required materials.

Surprised to see them this far north to obtain such with small individual vehicles. Maybe no other means of transportation available. I would also think such materials would be available closer to the scene. But it is quite possible we here in Michigan are sitting on an excess of such materials. Every week for months I am seeing and hearing in the news of our demand for housing, but not enough available workforce to build and/or repair/update what is scheduled.


It is also possible that the prices on such material had went so high down there, that coming all the way to Michigan for such material was actually a savings including the cost to transport.
No. 175     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 7:07 PM     
Irma is done.
No. 176     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 9:01 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Irma is done.


I think people are quite aware of that.

However what she left behind is certainly not done.

It will take YEARS to fully recover from the damage this Hurricane caused.
No. 177     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Sep 12, 2017 at 9:32 PM     
BR; you've never lived in the south...
we're used to open house scenarios.

thats why we're always long on D9 sales and rentals
((laugh))
No. 178     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 12:34 AM     
Bullfighter wrote: It will take YEARS to fully recover from the damage this Hurricane caused.


This is so true.

I have friends in FL and family and friends in TX.

Compassion and prayers lifted for those affected.



No. 179     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 5:45 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Irma is done.


They are still experiencing flooding issues as a result of Irma. Especially the rivers. And millions still without power, including people up into Georgia.
No. 180     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 5:47 AM     
I'm still here but not for long.
No. 181     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 6:03 AM     
CAsandie wrote:

Bullfighter wrote: It will take YEARS to fully recover from the damage this Hurricane caused.


This is so true.

I have friends in FL and family and friends in TX.

Compassion and prayers lifted for those affected.





My friends and family in Texas, Florida, and Georgia are all well as far as no injuries. Some did incur damage to their property.

The only ones I am aware of that evacuated, already had plans to leave coming here to Michigan for a vacation, and thus came on anyway and are here right now. They hit traffic issues on the freeways slowing them down to only moving at like 25 MPH. Said one stretch that is typically a 4 hour drive, took 11+ hours.

I hit a winter storm going south to North Carolina a couple winters ago. Traffic came to a standstill on the freeway, and I was stuck in a car for like 5 hours. Traffic not moving at all lined up bumper to bumper with essentially 0 visibility except for the back of the car in front of you. Only ran the car for heat when really needed, for fear of running out of fuel before the ordeal was over. Turns out the biggest contribution to the long delay was two semis had jackknifed on icy roads up ahead, and had the freeway blocked until they could be removed. Was a "task" to get the equipment to the location.
No. 182     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 12:14 PM     
Not directly related to this thread, but all the talk in the news about Key West pops vivid memories in my mind of when I last visited Key West. Along the docks the water was full of sharks. There were some guys that appeared to be catching them with baited hooks while others appeared to simply have grappling hooks they were tossing in and easily snagging them with the hooks, being there was so many. Both ways they were piling them on the docks one after another. Seemed somewhat cruel and inhuman to me, even though they were sharks.

Seems I have read somewhere since that the grappling hook method is illegal.
No. 183     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 1:39 PM     
insular926 wrote:

I'm still here ...



:2thumbs: :biggrin:
No. 184     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 3:14 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

Irma is done.


They are still experiencing flooding issues as a result of Irma. Especially the rivers. And millions still without power, including people up into Georgia.

Well Irma is done was not what i originally wrote but I changed what I originally wrote to that beucase I couldn't find the video I saw and irma appeared done anyway. Originally I had saw a video that said irma was making a turn toward la and miss line bringing rain and could end up in the gulf. but i was heading out and didn't have to time to watch the video. I only read the title of the video. That was the topic of what I originally posted on. But wehn i got back home I coudln't find that video so I changed my comment. Today I see many videos about it but dont think irma has enough life to make it and plus it doesn't seem to be a concern by the news anymore.
No. 185     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 5:03 PM     
Irma's Staggering Toll: At Least 67 Dead, Billions In Damage From the Caribbean to the U.S.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/irma-aftermath-southeast-florida-south-carolina-georgia
No. 186     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 5:08 PM     
What Happened to Endangered Deer in the Florida Keys During Irma?

https://weather.com/news/news/what-happened-to-the-key-deer-in-irma
No. 187     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 5:14 PM     
Irma Toll Rises: Florida Gov. Will 'Aggressively Demand Answers' After 8 Die at a Hollywood FL Nursing Home

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hollywood-florida-retirement-home-dead-irma
No. 188     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 5:46 PM     
although they could have a died from heat, im wondering if thats actually what killed them. I have my doubts.
No. 189     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 9:12 PM     
Photos of the Destruction Hurricane Irma Left Behind

https://weather.com/safety/hurricane/news/hurricane-irma-images
No. 190     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 9:32 PM     
Chinook Helicopters Deliver Supplies To Stranded Florida Keys Residents

VIDEO:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5575483450001/
No. 191     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 14, 2017 at 11:24 PM     
Interesting...and what's ironic is many of Trump's Hollywood liberal critics who owned property in the caribbean were demolished. God works in mysterious ways...

President Trump's $17 million "chateau" on the Caribbean island of St. Martin survived Hurricane Irma nearly unscathed, unlike the rest of the French/Dutch island — and in contrast to the fate suffered by other celebrities' properties in the path of the monster storm still raging in Florida.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2017/09/11/trumps-caribbean-villa-survives-irma-other-celebs-werent-so-lucky/654792001/
No. 192     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Sep 15, 2017 at 12:15 PM     
I guess it is all a matter of perspective, especially if you are a victim, but I am seeing many news reports that the damage caused by Irma is not as bad as it appeared from the air in most areas. Lots of tree, vegetation and power line damage making it look bad from the air, but once on the ground taking a closer look, most homes and other buildings are in much better condition than expected.
No. 193     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 15, 2017 at 9:28 PM     
I just remembered an old girlfriend I used to go out with lives in FL. We lived together, this was before I became a Born Again Christian. In fact it was when we broke up that I had began seeking the Lord and became a born again Christian.

I remember her Brother, a diehard catholic, alcoholic, heroin addict, etc. wanted to kill me upon hearing I was a Born Again Christian, lol. So I heard anyway.

Anyway she is married now.

I just checked her Facebook page and although she is near the West Coast of FL West of Orlando she is ok.

I was surprised to read a post she made a few days ago that stated "she had accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour and is a Christian!" I don't know how long ago but sounds like years perhaps. I have never talked or wrote to her since I last saw her, I figured it's best to just let it stay dead where it is, lol".

She had had 3 strokes years ago I read. She smoked and drank heavily (as did I) when I knew her.

Glad to see she has, "seen the light!" and come out of her catholicsim!

I see she is a diehard Trump fan also, lol!
No. 194     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Sep 16, 2017 at 1:24 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

CAsandie wrote:

Bullfighter wrote: It will take YEARS to fully recover from the damage this Hurricane caused.


This is so true.

I have friends in FL and family and friends in TX.

Compassion and prayers lifted for those affected.





My friends and family in Texas, Florida, and Georgia are all well as far as no injuries. Some did incur damage to their property.

The only ones I am aware of that evacuated, already had plans to leave coming here to Michigan for a vacation, and thus came on anyway and are here right now. They hit traffic issues on the freeways slowing them down to only moving at like 25 MPH. Said one stretch that is typically a 4 hour drive, took 11+ hours.

I hit a winter storm going south to North Carolina a couple winters ago. Traffic came to a standstill on the freeway, and I was stuck in a car for like 5 hours. Traffic not moving at all lined up bumper to bumper with essentially 0 visibility except for the back of the car in front of you. Only ran the car for heat when really needed, for fear of running out of fuel before the ordeal was over. Turns out the biggest contribution to the long delay was two semis had jackknifed on icy roads up ahead, and had the freeway blocked until they could be removed. Was a "task" to get the equipment to the location.


Survivor -- This is good to hear (all my family/friends were spared as well, however I have not heard from Mission Specialist here on MC who I do hold a connection and concern for). Home damage can be repaired (although work).

I am also glad to hear you are enjoying time with family and friends! :thumb_up:


No. 195     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 17, 2017 at 12:05 AM     
It must upset liberals to no end that none of Trump's properties were damaged by Irma. Watch as they howl and squeal, lol.

Maher: "None Of Trump's Properties Were Damaged By Hurricane Irma, Which Shows There Is No God".

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/09/15/maher-none-of-trumps-properties-were-damaged-by-hurricane-irma-which-shows-there-is-no-god/
No. 196     Reply: Re: Hurricane Irma   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 17, 2017 at 12:18 AM     
There's more hurricanes on the way to somewhere.