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No. 0     Original Topic:  Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 10:45 PM   Viewed 1637 times     
Better get the Lifeboats ready down in Texas, she's a comin!

Parts of Texas are predicted to get up to 35" of rain because Harvey is predicted to, "stall" over Texas for 5-6 days. That will unload an unbelievable amount of rain causing widespread flash flooding.

30 Counties in TX have already been declared disaster areas before the Hurricane even gets there to do it's damage.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/harvey-texas-louisiana-preps-impacts


Hurricane Harvey: Widespread Evacuations Ordered in Texas
By Ada Carr and Eric Chaney and Pam Wright
Aug 24 2017 10:30 PM EDT
weather.com

Texas Races to Prepare for Harvey

Texas is racing to prepare as Hurricane Harvey intensifies in the Gulf of Mexico.

Story Highlights

"Runs on food, water, gas and other supplies have already begun as residents along the Texas coast prepare for Harvey.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has declared a disaster for 30 Texas counties.

At least one college campus will close and evacuate Thursday and workers are being evacuated off oil rigs in the Gulf.

Widespread evacuations have been ordered along Texas' Gulf Coast ahead of Hurricane Harvey.

Officials in Calhoun, Victoria, Jackson, San Patricio and Refugio counties north of Corpus Christi issued orders on Thursday, along with the cities of Portland, Rockport, Port Aransas, Aransas Pass, Ingleside and Robstown. All residents of Brazoria County living on the Gulf side of the Intracoastal Canal have been ordered to evacuate, as well.

Harvey became a hurricane around 1 p.m. Eastern Thursday and is still gaining strength as it churns through the Gulf of Mexico. Harvey is forecast to make landfall as a major Category 3 hurricane sometime early Saturday morning. The last storm of that category to hit the U.S. was Hurricane Wilma in October 2005 in Florida.

The Texas Department of Transportation has released an evacuation guide with highlighted routes and important tips.

Nueces County and the City of Corpus Christi have also issued a mandatory evacuation for high profile vehicles, KZTV reports, but no full evacuation has been ordered yet.

(MORE: Hurricane Harvey Could Impact Gas Prices Nationwide; Oil Rig Workers Evacuated)

Corpus Christi Mayor Joe McComb said in a Thursday afternoon press conference that the city is strongly encouraging evacuations, and officials are "almost at the threshold for mandatory evacuation, but we are not going to cross that line right now."

"We could mandate it, but people need to make a decision of their own. I'm not going to risk our police and fire people going to try and drag somebody out of the house if they don't want to go," McComb said. "Because our fire and police, they're fathers and mothers, brothers, sisters, uncles. They've got relatives and they've got family, and we don't want to put them in harm's way because someone just wanted to stay."

The US Navy has closed Naval Air Station Corpus Christi until further notice and has ordered the evacuation of all non-essential active-duty military personnel.

Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi announced its campus would close and everyone would be required to evacuate by noon Thursday, according to a release.

Oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico had already begun to evacuate workers earlier in the day, and residents along the Texas coast have been stocking up on food water and other supplies in the face of Hurricane Harvey.

"We got all of our food supplies yesterday," Corpus Christi resident Robert Cavanaugh told the Corpus Christi Caller-Times. "The closer it (the storm) gets, the more crazy the stores will be."

(MORE: The Latest Harvey Forecast)

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott declared a state of disaster for at least 30 counties and urged residents to prepare for the powerful storm.

"Texans believe in taking action and always being prepared in the event of an emergency," Abbott said in a release. "That is why I am taking every precaution prior to Tropical (Storm) Harvey making landfall. Preemptively declaring a state of disaster will allow Texas to quickly deploy resources for the emergency response effort in anticipation of the storm's hazardous conditions."

On Thursday, Abbott activated about 700 members of the state National Guard. Military helicopters were also on standby in Austin and San Antonio in preparation for search and rescues and emergency evacuations.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said President Donald Trump was "briefed and will continue to be updated as the storm progresses."

The Padre Island National Seashore in Corpus Christi, Texas, closed its North and South beaches at noon Thursday due to the storm, according to a local tourism agency.

Texas Senator Ted Cruz issued a statement Thursday asking Texans in the path of the storm to remain vigilant.

“As Texas prepares for the potential impact in the Gulf Coast region from [Hurricane] Harvey, I urge all Texans in the path of the storm to heed warnings from local officials, know your evacuation route, and avoid all high water areas," the statement reads.
Houston Area Impacts

The Houston Independent School District announced Thursday that all district schools and administrative offices will be closed on Monday, August 28 due to the threat of inclement weather.

The closure will affect more than 200,000 students — Houston ISD is the largest in Texas and the eighth-largest in the U.S. Classes are scheduled to resume on Tuesday, August 29.

Officials on Galveston Island are planning for possible major flooding by clearing storm drains and other infrastructure, KHOU.com reported.

"We are looking at this as a rain event at this point," Galveston Office of Emergency Management Coordinator Niki Bender told KHOU. "We are watching, like everyone else, what the National Weather Service and the hurricane center are putting out."
Runs on Food, Water, Gasoline Have Already Begun

Residents along the Texas coast flocked to grocery and hardware stores and gas stations to stock up on last-minute supplies. In the Houston area, ABC 13 reported long lines at Wal-Mart and local grocery stores. Social media photos showed bare shelves, especially in the bottled water aisle.

According to WFAA, Kroger is sending nearly 80 truckloads of water and other supplies from warehouses in the Dallas-Fort Worth area to Southeast Texas as Harvey approaches.

Local farmers are anticipating the storm as well. Rice farmers in coastal Matagorda County are moving quickly to harvest their crops before the storm hits, the AP reported. Cotton farmers are doing the same in Victoria County, Matt Bochat, a county agent for Texas A&M's AgriLife Extension Service program, told the Victoria Advocate.

"We've been seeing some really good yields this year in cotton," he said. "That would be sad to see them not be able to get anything out of it."
Airports to Remain Open

Officials at Houston airports say they expect to remain open after Hurricane Harvey hits South Texas, but airlines are encouraging customers to change travel plans, according to the Associated Press.

United, Southwest and American are offering waivers for customers scheduled to fly to, from or through Houston and several other Texas cities from Friday through Sunday. Delta will waive charges for changes to flight plans through Saturday."
No. 1     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 10:52 PM     
Shelves are already being stripped bare.

No. 2     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 10:56 PM     
The Home Depot in Corpus Christi TX have already sold out of Generators...

No. 3     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 11:04 PM     
Corpus Christi is in the Bullseye but, "Houston, we have a problem!"

Hurricane Harvey Expected to Strengthen to Category 3 Status; Strongest Texas Coastal Bend Landfall in At Least 47 Years Likely; Extreme Flood Threat

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-forecast-gulf-coast-texas-louisiana
No. 4     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 11:13 PM     
I saw people writing comments about the hurricane and one man said he's in Corpus Christi and he's staying at home. I thought to ask him if he 's suicidal. Im just gonna get rain here in louisiana. I felt bad for a man who just bought a home where the hurricane is just about a month ago, what rotten luck he has.
No. 5     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

I saw people writing comments about the hurricane and one man said he's in Corpus Christi and he's staying at home. I thought to ask him if he wants to committ suicide. Im just gonna get rain in louisiana.


Every single year there are fools like that who often either pay with that decision with their lives or place the lives of 1st responders in peril who attempt to save them.

They are like moths to a flame.

When conditions worsen enough, even 1st responders will not go outside for their own safety.

This is not a regular Hurricane. The biggest threat from it will not be from the Winds, or even the storm surge, although that will definitely cause some destruction.

The biggest threat from this baby will be from the rain, and the subsequent flash flooding that will follow it.

Because it is predicted to, "stall" and hover between 2 high pressure systems it may stay in one place for up to 5 or so days dumping all it's moisture on one area.

That will be the biggest threat from this one.

Up to 35" of rain they are saying, that's an awful lot!

Some reports are saying this will be the worst Hurricane scenario to hit the coast of TX in 11 years.

And the worst in some respects in 46 or so years.

We shall see. I know one thing, I would not want to bet my life staying anywhere down there along the coast.

I would be going far inland and up to higher ground somewhere and camp for a week or so.
No. 6     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 11:27 PM     
just another day in paradise & none seem worried
yet, But there is an a escape route. in fact i have
an investigator friend who lives on the inner side
of the Corpus ship channel in an old heavy duty pirate
pylon shack. they're all redeks down there; mail boxes
shaped like shXXT Gxn shells & not to far from the Naval
Air Station. wouldnt worry much.

But i'm up here near OK and because of all the rain i've
killed dozens of of snakes on my piece of dirt today and will
be hauling them to the bootmaker tomorrow.
No. 7     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 11:31 PM     
Here's a cool page. Current conditions of Hurricane Harvey in real time, including the track it is taking.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane-central/harvey-2017/AL092017

Right now,

Cat 1
Winds 85mph
Pressure: 959mb
Speed: NW @ 10mph
No. 8     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 11:36 PM     
crayons wrote:

just another day in paradise & none seem worried
yet
, But there is an a escape route. in fact i have
an investigator friend who lives on the inner side
of the Corpus ship channel in an old heavy duty pirate
pylon shack. they're all redeks down there; mail boxes
shaped like shXXT Gxn shells & not to far from the Naval
Air Station. wouldnt worry much.

But i'm up here near OK and because of all the rain i've
killed dozens of of snakes on my piece of dirt today and will
be hauling them to the bootmaker tomorrow.


No it isn't.

And your friend is a fool...

There will be death and destruction from this Hurricane.
No. 9     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 12:08 AM     
As of Midnight a few minutes ago she strengthened to a Cat 2 now, winds of 100mph.
No. 10     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 12:13 AM     
his phone/landline is still workin; he's asleep right now;
he'll let me know. we talk every other day. Plus i'll
make money off more than a few flood vehicles if i can get to them
before they file with their insurance co's.
No. 11     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 12:20 AM     
Hurricane Harvey's storm path: What you should know
By Zoe Szathmary
Published August 24, 2017
Fox News

Now Playing

Texans prepare for Hurricane Harvey

"Tropical Storm Harvey was upgraded to a hurricane Thursday -- and is headed toward the United States.

The storm is currently considered a Category 2 but is “on its way to becoming” Category 3, National Hurricane Center (NHC) spokesman Dennis Feltgen told Fox News.

There can be “very, very, serious damage” with a Category 3 storm, he explained, “even to well-built homes and businesses.”

With a storm of that potential magnitude expected, it’s important to know Hurricane Harvey’s path.

Where is Hurricane Harvey today?

Here are the key messages for rapidly intensifying #Hurricane #Harvey for the 1 pm CDT Special Advisory. https://t.co/tW4KeGdBFb pic.twitter.com/V9fXLewx1L
— NHC Atlantic Ops (@NHC_Atlantic) August 24, 2017

Harvey was approximately 335 miles southeast of Corpus Christi forecasters said in a 2 p.m. ET NHC advisory on Thursday. Feltgen said that the storm is headed toward the middle Texas coastline at about 10 mph.

The storm’s maximum sustained winds were 85 mph on Thursday, according to the advisory.

When will the hurricane make landfall?

Very serious. #Harvey is forecast to be a Cat 3 Hurricane before landfall. Catastrophic flooding expected. Not a lot of time to prep. pic.twitter.com/z1UCCk71Wd
— Janice Dean (@JaniceDean) August 24, 2017

The storm is predicted to make landfall “very late Friday to early Saturday morning,” Feltgen said, adding that there’s no way to determine the exact time.

The NHC said Thursday that the storm will make landfall on the Texas coast.

Harvey will “be hanging inland over Texas” on Sunday and Monday, Feltgen said, with rains and “blustering winds” continuing.

People in #Texas should prepare today for #Hurricane #Harvey as winds could be too strong for preparations on Friday https://t.co/tW4KeGdBFb pic.twitter.com/uEOgdtDnQD
— NHC Atlantic Ops (@NHC_Atlantic) August 24, 2017

What else should I know about the storm?

Speaking Thursday, Fox News' Senior Meteorologist Janice Dean said, “We haven’t had a major hurricane (cat 3 or higher) hit the U.S. since Wilma in 2005. Texas hasn’t had a hurricane make landfall since 2008, and the fact that this storm is expected to slow down and potentially bring epic floods to the coast from Louisiana to Texas is just dire.”

“Harvey is expected to produce total rain accumulations of 12 to 20 inches and isolated maximum amounts of 30 inches over the middle and upper Texas coast through next Wednesday,” the NHC advisory warned.

Feltgen also said that the storm isn’t a “dot on the map,” and there’s a “lot of impact” over a large area.

He gave an example that someone seeing a “skinny black line” showing the hurricane’s path over Corpus Christi, but who doesn’t live immediately in the city and thinks the storm wouldn’t affect them, would be wrong.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/24/hurricane-harveys-storm-path-what-should-know.html
No. 12     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 12:28 AM     
crayons wrote:
"...not to far from the Naval
Air Station. wouldnt worry much..."


From the earlier article I posted:

"...The US Navy has closed Naval Air Station Corpus Christi until further notice and has ordered the evacuation of all non-essential active-duty military personnel. ..."
No. 13     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 12:32 AM     
No. 14     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 12:35 AM     
No. 15     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 12:41 AM     
Hurricane Harvey Expected to Strengthen to Category 3 Status; Strongest Texas Coastal Bend Landfall in At Least 47 Years Likely; Extreme Flood Threat

"...This would be the nation's first Category 3 or stronger hurricane landfall since Hurricane Wilma struck south Florida in October 2005, an almost 12-year run.

Harvey may also be the strongest landfall in this area known as the Texas Coastal Bend since the infamous Category 3 Hurricane Celia hammered the Corpus Christi area in August 1970 with wind gusts up to 161 mph, damaging almost 90 percent of the city's businesses and 70 percent of its residences and destroying two hangars at the city's airport.

The Coastal Bend hasn't seen a Category 4 landfall since Hurricane Carla in September 1961 produced catastrophic damage from storm surge and high winds in Port O'Connor and Palacios, Texas, among other locations.

The only other Category 4 landfall of record near the Texas Coastal Bend was the infamous Indianola hurricane of August 1886, which devastated the town of Indianola just 11 years after another Category 3 hurricane, eventually turning the former bustling port into a ghost town...."


https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-forecast-gulf-coast-texas-louisiana
No. 16     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 12:45 AM     
No. 17     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 12:49 AM     
Expected rainfall amounts through Wednesday...

No. 18     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 12:55 AM     
Predicted power outage areas:


No. 19     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 1:21 AM     
the more hysteria you hippy's stir up
the more money i'm gonna make.

"keep stirrin the pot Yankee'...
"$$$.$$$.00" ((laugh))
No. 20     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 1:55 AM     
crayons wrote:

the more hysteria you hippy's stir up
the more money i'm gonna make.

"keep stirrin the pot Yankee'...
"$$$.$$$.00" ((laugh))


Hysteria?

I can see you've never had any kind of Emergency Management training...

And by the way...

The Weather Channel is located in Atlanta, GA, That would be Confederate turf, not Yankee...

And the National Storm Prediction Center is located in Norman, OK not too awfully far from you...

All the articles and photos I posted (with the exception of one from Fox News) are from those 2 entities.

Keep laughing, somehow I don't think the people of south Texas would find your mockery of them too funny come this weekend and next week after all the damage take place...

Who knows maybe someday a Texas Twister may do you in.

Wouldn't that be something!
No. 21     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 11:41 AM     
Thanks for the updates and info BF!

I have family in TX and have Texas in my prayers!

No. 22     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 12:14 PM     
like i said hysteria, many dont realize
if you live down there you cant have a bunch
of stuff or have the herd mentality.((laugh))

just another storm thats gonna take out areas
where masses of people shouldn't be living anyhow,
galveston, mustang island...even Native American Indians
knew better than to permanently set up shop there.

my buddy told me the media is crazy, and while everyone is headed
north like a herd of spooked cattle he drove west early AM seeing hardly
any traffic and is sitting at a bar right now in Larado.

he told me he hopes Harvey takes out all the meth lab/trailer parks;
but it's not bad enough to take out refinery infrastructure;
he said maybe the Saudis will will get scared and sell off the
Shell refinery for pennies on the dollar((laughin))



No. 23     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  LOLOKGal   Gender: F   Age: 41   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 1:34 PM     
WOW! I wonder how I've missed this news! Thanks for this post. Sure will be praying for all!

No. 24     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 1:54 PM     
I have many acquaintances in Texas. None have reported any real issues thus far.
No. 25     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 5:06 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

I have many acquaintances in Texas. None have reported any real issues thus far.


The worst is yet to come. The major damage from flooding won't be apparent until next week.
No. 26     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Kari   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 5:20 PM     
the worse IS FOR sure yet to come. I would never take things like this lightly. Now it's been upgraded to a level 3. An ex mcer lives in Texas and even though she isn't in the path... they are expecting 60-70 mph winds and 14 inches of rain. They are prepared. But so many will not be.
No. 27     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 7:01 PM     
Now a Cat 4 with Maximum sustained winds of 130mph. I would not want to be anywhere near the coast!

6 to 12 foot storm surges predicted in some areas.
No. 28     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 8:04 PM     
after 15 years Mustang isle Beachfront property
might once again be a steal! Ca-Ching $$$

i bid on half that island once and was only beat
by one bid. hope the toilet gets flushed this time.
No. 29     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 8:33 PM     
Bread shelves at a Walmart in Houston, TX:

No. 30     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 8:50 PM     
:group_prayer:
No. 31     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 8:52 PM     
A Power Generator in front of a Hospital in Corpus Christi...

No. 32     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 9:12 PM     
Watching Hannity on Fox News ... reporting on Hurricane Harvey ... showing different scenes ... 130 mph winds ... again praying for the people there.
No. 33     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 9:23 PM     
That so called Generator
looks like a local container
that someone just ditched,
I own 3 of em. i know what they
look like.

CNN is just gonna blame all this BS on trump...
They'll be callin it hurricane Trump!((laugh))
Just another day in TX Paradise.
No. 34     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 9:55 PM     
crayons wrote:

That so called Generator
looks like a local container
that someone just ditched,
I own 3 of em. i know what they
look like.

CNN is just gonna blame all this BS on trump...
They'll be callin it hurricane Trump!((laugh))
Just another day in TX Paradise.


It's a cargo container, and the generator is likely inside of it to protect it from the weather.

The caption did say it was a generator, and outside of a Hospital in Corpus Christi. They would need backup generators at such a time like this. I'm sure they have their own permanent ones installed on the property as well, but oftentimes those are only to run critical infrastructure.

Longer term portable generators in cargo containers for example would be needed for any extended outages, like what they are about to experience now.

We have one permanently installed outside our facility at work, as do many sites I have worked over the years.
No. 35     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 25, 2017 at 11:20 PM     
you'll fall fer anything;
most all businesses here have
natural gas generators((laugh))
No. 36     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:46 AM     
crayons wrote:

you'll fall fer anything;
most all businesses here have
natural gas generators((laugh))


You are talking about a fixed generator.

Large Portable generators generally use diesel, not natural gas.

I've seen and dealt with them for years, some as big as a car.

And I was in charge of contract security at more than a half a dozen RR Intermodal facilities in the NE IL area for 14 years and that's all we did was deal with cargo containers and trailers, and truckers.

They often ship them inside cargo trailers mounted on skids. Especially if they want to protect them from vandalism.

The Hospital may just keep them stored inside there until needed, possibly even just for this storm. They may have ordered it and had it dropped off just for this storm too.

Let me guess...a trucker just happened to be driving along in front of the Hospital and he decided to just drop off his trailer right there at that particular spot directly in front of the Hosiptal for no reason whatsoever...

Doubtful...
No. 37     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 2:20 AM     
crayons wrote:
Just another day in TX Paradise.


But you don't live anywhere near the coast.

You live in North TX near OK, nowhere near the Hurricane area.

Therefore you do not speak for nor represent any of the people in TX who are having to go through it right now.

So your prideful boasting is pointless.
No. 38     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 2:55 AM     
"...Abbott warned that the storm is a “very complex and dangerous” hurricane that could bring devastating flooding along the middle Texas coast as Harvey is expected to dump more than 2 feet of rain over parts of the region.

“It’s a hurricane that’s going to prove more dangerous than many hurricanes,” Abbott said. “We are going to be dealing with immense, really record-setting flooding in multiple regions across the state of Texas...”


"...At least 10 people were treated for injuries at a local jail in the town of Rockport, about 31 miles northeast of Corpus Christi, after the roof of a senior citizens’ complex collapsed, local media reported.

Part of a local high school also collapsed, and a portion of the exterior of a hotel peeled off in the heavy winds, KXAN reported.

“People are trapped inside at least one collapsed building. We can't get rescue teams to them right now,” Rockport City Manager Kevin Carruth told KIII News.

Emergency officials reported large numbers of downed trees and more than 86,000 people around the state without power...."

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-hurricane-harvey-20170825-story.html
No. 39     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 3:25 AM     
With this Hurricane it won't be the wind that causes the most damage.

It will be the flooding, which is still yet to come days from now as it dumps it's cargo of moisture continuously picked up from the Ocean hovering over the same general area for days in a row.

That flooding is what will cause the most damage with this Hurricane.
No. 40     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 4:02 AM     
"Houston: Harvey Will Bring Flooding, Severe"

Video: https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/houston-harvey-will-bring-flooding-severe
No. 41     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 6:04 AM     
4:20 a.m. CDT Saturday:


"...According to a MesoWest weather station in Victoria, Texas, 16.43 inches of rain in the past 24 hours.

BREAKING: Three homes destroyed by wind whipped flames on Bolivar Peninsula pic.twitter.com/7nJ4oFNKWW

— 12NewsNow (@12NewsNow) August 26, 2017


A fire on Bolivar Peninsula destroyed at least three homes late Friday night. The flames were exacerbated by Harvey's high winds. No word yet on any injuries or if any residents were home at the time of the fire.

3:30 a.m. CDT Saturday:


A boat crew is reportedly missing after their boat sank near Port Aransas Friday afternoon. The wife of one of the crew members says she was in contact with her husband until 11 p.m. Friday night, but hasn't heard from him since. The man was able to share video aboard the boat before he and his wife lost contact..."

https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/reports-conditions-deteriorating-across-coastal-texas-as-harvey-nears-landfall/70002563
No. 42     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 6:40 AM     

Why storm experts are so scared about Hurricane Harvey’s rain

Feet of rain are in the forecast. An expert explains why that’s so concerning.

Updated by Brian Resnick@B_resnickbrian@vox.com Aug 26, 2017, 7:00am EDT

Hurricane Harvey is a huge, life-threatening storm. It struck the Central Texas coast Friday night and brought with it 130 mph winds and several feet of storm surge. But perhaps more concerning is the rain still to come.

“Catastrophic and life-threatening flooding is expected across the middle and upper Texas coast from heavy rainfall of 15 to 30 inches, with isolated amounts as high as 40 inches, through Wednesday,” the National Hurricane Center reports in its forecast. That’s almost an entire year’s worth of rain over the course of a few days.

And, it’s kind of mind-boggling. So I called up Hal Needham to help put in in perspective.

Needham is a scientist (a geographer by training) and consultant who studies storm surge risk. He’s based in Galveston, Texas, and writes about storm surge science on his blog. He says when a storm like Harvey comes along, we tend to think too simply about storm risk: We fixate on wind speed, or storm surge height, or rain. But what makes this particular storm risky (and complex) is how all those elements mix together.

My interview with Needham is below, edited for length and clarity.
Brian Resnick

What worries you most with Harvey?
Hal Needham

Harvey is a hybrid type of event we haven’t seen before. The storm surge itself has not been forecast to be that catastrophic in the Houston-Galveston region. It may reach 3, 4, or 5 feet. A lot of people are saying, “Wow, that’s so much less than Hurricane Ike [in 2008].”

But the really unusual thing about Harvey is it’s expected to stall near the coast for days. We may have Galveston Bay elevated by several feet for many days [from the storm surge]. On top of that, we may see 20 or more inches of rain in the extended region. To get that much rain, over a wide area, and have the costal areas elevated with storm surge — the waters are going to struggle to drain. Some areas are going to flood that haven’t before in recent memory.

That combination may be confusing to people. You can have two storms with the same amount of rain, and one of them floods your house and the other does not.

In this case, we have complex combined risk of storm surge and heavy rainfall. If people just look at one or the other, they may underestimate their risk.
Brian Resnick

Why is Harvey likely to stall by the coast?
Hal Needham

Hurricanes are steered by upper-level winds. And these winds are basically going to break down and stop steering the storm as it arrives here on the Texas coast. It may drift south, north. What does look pretty confident — in several models — is that it should stall for several days.
Brian Resnick

Here’s something I can’t quite wrap my mind around: The forecast is calling for 30-or-40-plus inches of rain in some areas. I have no mental reference for what that means.
Hal Needham

Let’s put it in context. Much of the Northeast Corridor — Washington to New York and Boston — maybe receives maybe between 40 and 45 inches of rain a year. Think of all the rain you get in July through Christmas and put that in a couple days. It’s a lot of rain.
Brian Resnick

Backing up a bit, here’s a simple question: What’s a storm surge?
Hal Needham

A storm surge is when the onshore winds of the hurricane elevate the level of the ocean. The entire column of water in the ocean is rising, due to onshore winds and lower pressure. We have less pressure pushing down on the surface of the ocean, and the water can actually rise a little. But most of the force creating the surge is the onshore winds.

When you hear about a 6-foot storm surge, the sea is actually rising by 6 feet. On top of that, we get large destructive waves.
Brian Resnick

Looking at this storm, the potential for surge, and the geography of the Texas coast, which areas are you most concerned about?
Hal Needham

The storm will make landfall in the Central Texas coast, and it’s going to produce the largest storm surge since Hurricane Carla in 1961. So it’s been more than 50 years that we’ve seen a storm surge this high in some of these regions. Maybe a 6- to 12-foot storm surge.
Brian Resnick

Why does the “more than 50 years” concern you?
Hal Needham

The biggest concern is public awareness and risk perception [with] this area around the coast.
Brian Resnick

Do the areas south of Houston and Galveston also face the same threat: combined storm surge, huge rain, and nowhere for all that water to drain?
Hal Needham

Absolutely.
Brian Resnick

I’ve read that officials in the Houston-Galveston area have discussed building a “costal spine” or a dike in the bay to keep storm surge waters out of the cities. The plans haven’t gone very far. Would such barriers be helpful to protect the area from this storm?
Hal Needham

That would be an extensive flood barrier along the coast. There would be a gate, a flood barrier for Galveston Bay, and the idea is that it could potentially keep back one of these storm surges.

[But here,] we have a moderate storm surge. We also have many feet of rain. If we put [in] a barrier and shut it, we may keep the saltwater out and the freshwater in.

Brian Resnick

So it’s not a simple answer.

What’s the most dangerous aspect of this storm as far as human lives are concerned?
Hal Needham

Just the prolonged nature of it, that it’s really going to go into the middle of next week. That it’s just going to park, and perhaps we’re going to see many feet of rain. There will be some substantial wind damage along the Central Texas coast, but when we look back on this, in historical context, I think it will really be the flood that’s the main story.

If it just passed through, it would be a wind and moderate surge event for the Central Texas coast, and it would be gone and we could start the cleanup. But it’s going to last quite a bit."

https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/8/26/16206554/hurricane-harvey-2017-flood
No. 43     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 6:58 AM     
there are people who wouldn't leave and on the news they said if you dont leave write your name and your social security on your body so we can easily identify you. lol. If that didnt scare them nothing will.
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 7:05 AM     
After reading the above article I checked to see what our yearly rainfall total is here where I live. It is 37".

I cannot even imagine what the conditions will be like in some of those areas of TX that are forecast to receive as much as 40" of rain over a 5 or so day period! :icon_eek:

They will have to be rowing boats down the middle of the streets there.

Small streams will become raging torrents turning into rivers.

Roads will wash out as culverts under them are overburdened.

They are saying this is a new type of Hurricane situation they have never seen or experienced before because the Hurricane is due to stall and just sit over the same general area for about 5 days dumping buckets of rain all over a wide area with nowhere for it to go.
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By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 12:30 PM     

A lot of devastation and prayers lifted for those who lived by the coast or who are suffering through the flooding.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-texas-impacts

No. 46     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 12:49 PM     
Some photos of the damage are starting to trickle in. Here are a few....

Harvey
The roof of a gas station sits in flood waters in the wake of Hurricane Harvey, Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Aransas Pass, Texas. Harvey rolled over the Texas Gulf Coast on Saturday, smashing homes and businesses and lashing the shore with wind and rain so intense that drivers were forced off the road because they could not see in front of them. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

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By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 12:49 PM     
Was just listening to the Weather Channel in the background. The announcer was saying something like if you have problems, contact... [he meant something like contact your provider]...but he instead said, "If you have problems, contact your aircraft carrier." LOL
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 12:59 PM     
Notice the Pitbull doing guard duty, lol.

Harvey
A trailer overturned in the wake of Hurricane Harvey lies on it's side, Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Aransas Pass, Texas. Harvey rolled over the Texas Gulf Coast on Saturday, smashing homes and businesses and lashing the shore with wind and rain so intense that drivers were forced off the road because they could not see in front of them. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:04 PM     
Resident
A resident, who wished not to be identified, cleans up debris after a tornado from Hurricane Harvey Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Missouri City, Texas. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)

No. 50     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:10 PM     
Yep Hurricanes can spawn Tornadoes also, like Harvey is doing.

Roofers
Roofers repair damage after a tornado from Hurricane Harvey Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Missouri City, Texas. Harvey rolled over the Texas Gulf Coast on Saturday, smashing homes and businesses and lashing the shore with wind and rain so intense that drivers were forced off the road because they could not see in front of them. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:14 PM     
US-WEATHER-STORM-HARVEY
A house suffers roof damage after Hurricane Harvey hit Corpus Christi, Texas on August 26, 2017. Hurricane Harvey slammed into the Texas coast late Friday, unleashing torrents of rain and packing powerful winds, the first major storm to hit the US mainland in 12 years. / AFP PHOTO / MARK RALSTONMARK RALSTON/AFP/Getty Images

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:19 PM     
US-WEATHER-STORM-HARVEY
A burnt out house and cars that caught fire are seen after Hurricane Harvey hit Corpus Christi, Texas on August 26, 2017. Hurricane Harvey slammed into the Texas coast late Friday, unleashing torrents of rain and packing powerful winds, the first major storm to hit the US mainland in 12 years. / AFP PHOTO / MARK RALSTONMARK RALSTON/AFP/Getty Images

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:24 PM     
US-WEATHER-STORM-HARVEY
A burnt out house and cars that caught fire are seen after Hurricane Harvey hit Corpus Christi, Texas on August 26, 2017. Hurricane Harvey slammed into the Texas coast late Friday, unleashing torrents of rain and packing powerful winds, the first major storm to hit the US mainland in 12 years. / AFP PHOTO / MARK RALSTONMARK RALSTON/AFP/Getty Images

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:33 PM     
A Tornado spawned by Harvey peeled some of the bricks right off this home.

Tornado damage
Fallen bricks from a home damaged by Hurricane Harvey sit on the ground Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Missouri City, Texas. Harvey rolled over the Texas Gulf Coast on Saturday, smashing homes and businesses and lashing the shore with wind and rain so intense that drivers were forced off the road because they could not see in front of them. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:37 PM     
TOPSHOT-US-WEATHER-STORM-HARVEY
TOPSHOT - A burnt out house and cars that caught fire are seen after Hurricane Harvey hit Corpus Christi, Texas on August 26, 2017. Hurricane Harvey slammed into the Texas coast late Friday, unleashing torrents of rain and packing powerful winds, the first major storm to hit the US mainland in 12 years. / AFP PHOTO / MARK RALSTONMARK RALSTON/AFP/Getty Images

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:41 PM     
J.G. Roberson
J.G. Roberson walks his dog Peace past an trailer overturned by the winds of Hurricane Harvey, Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Aransas Pass, Texas. Roberson rode the storm out in his own trailer. Harvey rolled over the Texas Gulf Coast on Saturday, smashing homes and businesses and lashing the shore with wind and rain so intense that drivers were forced off the road because they could not see in front of them. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)
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No. 57     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:41 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Notice the Pitbull doing guard duty, lol.

Harvey
A trailer overturned in the wake of Hurricane Harvey lies on it's side, Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Aransas Pass, Texas. Harvey rolled over the Texas Gulf Coast on Saturday, smashing homes and businesses and lashing the shore with wind and rain so intense that drivers were forced off the road because they could not see in front of them. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)



looks like something else is overturned in that photo next to the car (and I'm glad the pup is okay).

No. 58     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:47 PM     
The view from the International Space Station looks so serene and peaceful...

Hurricane Harvey makes landfall as category 4 storm
epa06163588 A handout photo made available by NASA shows an image taken from the International Space Station (ISS) of Hurricane Harvey approaching Texas, USA, 25 August 2017. Hurricane Harvey made landfall as a category 4 storm with sustained winds of up to 215 km per hour on the night of 25 August. EPA/NASA HANDOUT ALTERNATIVE CROP HANDOUT EDITORIAL USE ONLY/NO SALES
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:51 PM     
Hurricane Harvey makes landfall as category 4 storm
epa06163565 A handout photo made available by NASA shows an image acquired by Geostationary Operational Environmental Satellite system (GOES) Project of Hurricane Harvey approaching Texas, USA, 25 August 2017. Hurricane Harvey made landfall as a category 4 storm with sustained winds of up to 215 km per hour on the night of 25 August. EPA/NASA/NOAA/GOES PROJECT HANDOUT HANDOUT EDITORIAL USE ONLY/NO SALES
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 1:56 PM     
Hurricane Harvey Slams Into Texas Gulf Coast
UNITED STATES, GULF COAST - AUGUST 25: In this NOAA handout image, NOAA's GOES East satellite capture of Hurricane Harvey shows the storm making landfall shortly after 10:00pm CDT on August 25, 2017 on the mid-Texas coast. Now at category 4 strength, Harvey's maximum sustained winds had increased to 130 miles per hour. (Photo by NASA/NOAA GOES Project via Getty Images)

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 2:01 PM     
Harvey
Ripped sails of boats whip in the wind, damaged by Hurricane Harvey, Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Corpus Christi, Texas. Harvey has been further downgraded to a Category 1 hurricane as it churns slowly inland from the Texas Gulf Coast, already depositing more than 9 inches of rain in South Texas. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 2:05 PM     
Harvey
A trailer overturned in the wake of Hurricane Harvey lies upside down, Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Aransas Pass, Texas. Harvey rolled over the Texas Gulf Coast on Saturday, smashing homes and businesses and lashing the shore with wind and rain so intense that drivers were forced off the road because they could not see in front of them. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 2:11 PM     
Harvey
A fishing boat is left partial submerged after Hurricane Harvey swept through the area, Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Corpus Christi, Texas. Harvey has been further downgraded to a Category 1 hurricane as it churns slowly inland from the Texas Gulf Coast, already depositing more than 9 inches of rain in South Texas. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 2:19 PM     
APTOPIX Harvey
A drives moves through flood waters left behind by Hurricane Harvey, Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Aransas Pass, Texas. Harvey rolled over the Texas Gulf Coast on Saturday, smashing homes and businesses and lashing the shore with wind and rain so intense that drivers were forced off the road because they could not see in front of them. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)


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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 2:22 PM     
A truck in flood waters passes a home damaged in the wake of Hurricane Harvey, Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Aransas Pass, Texas. Harvey rolled over the Texas Gulf Coast on Saturday, smashing homes and businesses and lashing the shore with wind and rain so intense that drivers were forced off the road because they could not see in front of them. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 2:25 PM     
APTOPIX Harvey
An overturned trailer sits in a park in the wake of Hurricane Harvey, Saturday, Aug. 26, 2017, in Aransas Pass, Texas. Harvey rolled over the Texas Gulf Coast on Saturday, smashing homes and businesses and lashing the shore with wind and rain so intense that drivers were forced off the road because they could not see in front of them. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

No. 67     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 3:06 PM     
Rockport, TX mobile home damage and flooding.

No. 68     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 8:03 PM     
A damaged home is surrounded by floodwaters on August 26, 2017, in Rockport, Texas, in the wake of Hurricane Harvey.
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 8:08 PM     
A small plane sits damaged in a destroyed hangar August 26 after Hurricane Harvey hit Rockport, Texas.
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 8:11 PM     
A downed traffic signal lies in a street in Corpus Christi, Texas, on August 26.
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 8:14 PM     
A boarded-up Red Roof Inn in Port Aransas shows the damage it suffered on August 26.
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 8:17 PM     
Houston:

No. 73     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 8:34 PM     
This Meteorologist nails it about Harvey. the worst is likely yet to come over the next 4 days as Harvey piles up the rain over the same general area in historic and unimaginable amounts dumping what normally would take a year's time in only a few days.

Four Dangers Of Hurricane Harvey That May Not Be Obvious To The Public
Marshall Shepherd , Contributor

"I write about weather and climate related topics (and study them too)
Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.

Coastal Texas is in line for a significant hurricane threat. Hurricane Harvey is in the western Gulf of Mexico, and our best weather models bring it directly to the central Texas coast by early Saturday. There are so many things that worry me about this storm, and many of them are not the obvious threats that the public may immediately think of with a potentially major (Category 3 or higher) hurricane bearing down on the United States. Herein, I discuss four of them.
NASA Goddard

Hurricane Harvey

Hurricane Amnesia: The hurricane was expected to make landfall near Corpus Christi late Friday or early Saturday as a major hurricane. As of Thursday afternoon, the National Hurricane Center was issuing the following key warnings about Hurricane Harvey, which rapidly strengthened Thursday morning,

Harvey has intensified rapidly, and is forecast to be a major hurricane at landfall, bringing life-threatening storm surge, rainfall, and wind hazards to portions of the Texas coast. Preparations to protect life and property should be completed by tonight, as tropical-storm-force winds will first arrive in the hurricane and storm surge warning areas on Friday......A Storm Surge Warning is in effect for much of the Texas coast. Life-threatening storm surge flooding could reach heights of 6 to 12 feet above ground level at the coast between the north entrance of the Padre Island National Seashore and Sargent.

These are routine warnings for a storm of this potential magnitude. However, the problem is that the United States has not had a major hurricane make landfall in some time. I think the "landfalling hurricane drought" is about to end. Unfortunately, that drought has probably left much of the public with "hurricane amnesia." One of my greatest fears as a meteorologist is that complacency will cause people to let down their guard. In some cases, new residents to the Texas coastal and inland regions may not have experienced a hurricane at all. Hurricane expert Dr. Phil Klotzbach of Colorado State University tweeted that the last hurricane to impact Texas with winds greater than 125 mph, the National Hurricane Center projection for Harvey, was Hurricane Celia in 1970. The last major hurricane to make landfall in Texas was Hurricane Bret in 1999. This means that if you are a Texan younger than 18, you have not experienced a storm of this magnitude. This link provides valuable information on how to prepare.
NOAA NHC

Forecast for Hurricane Harvey as of Thursday, August 24th.
Recommended by Forbes

The Post-Landfall Flood Threat: To complicate matters, the most dangerous aspect of this hurricane may be days of rainfall and associated flooding. Many of our best models suggests that Harvey will make landfall, which brings immediate problems, and then linger for days as a weak tropical system. This danger may be lost on the average citizen that mistakenly perceives the danger to be "over" once the storm makes landfall. Some early model guidance suggests that a weakened version of Harvey could remain parked over the area for almost a week. The National Weather Service is estimating over 15-20 inches of rainfall. Frankly, I cannot rule out isolated amounts of 2 to 3 feet. As a reference, Corpus Christi gets about 31 inches a rainfall for the year. These numbers are staggering for an area that is already prone to flooding. The weather community has long warned that water (storm surge and inland freshwater flooding) is the most deadly aspects of hurricanes. This sustained threat of rainfall worries me greatly.

Residents of this same region may remember Tropical Storm Allison. Allison made an initial landfall and then meandered for days. It ultimately produced nearly 3 feet of rainfall and caused life-altering flooding. Some of my own published research in the journal, Geophysical Research Letters, has shown that weaker tropical systems can be some of the most high-impact flooding events. It is for this reason that coastal (and some inland) residents must not be lulled by the initial landfall of Harvey. In some ways, the landfall is just the beginning of this dangerous situation.
National Weather Service

Rainfall potential over the next 7 days.

Power Loss: A constant threat from this type of storm is loss of power. Professor Steven Quiring is a geographer at The Ohio State University. He and his colleagues from the University of Michigan and Texas A&M University have developed a model for estimating power outages prior to the actual event. Quiring emailed me the following message,

The NHC official forecast (OFCI), based on information Thursday afternoon, estimates that approximately 1.5 million people (which is roughly equivalent to 500,000 utility customers) will lose power. This is a substantial increase from earlier today. While changes in the forecast intensity of Harvey will have an impact of the power outage predictions, there is also substantial uncertainty due to the track of the storm. If we use the COTI model from 18 UTC, this track shifts the landfall location to the east. If the storm makes landfall closer to Houston, the model estimates that the number of people who will lose power will approach 3.4 million (which is roughly equivalent to 500,000 utility customers). This illustrates that there is significant uncertainty in the power outage predictions due to uncertainty in the track and intensity forecasts.

The prototype power loss forecasts can be found at this link. Quiring pointed out that Harvey will cause trouble and that they have shared their information with the Texas Department of Emergency Management, FEMA, DHS and utilities in Texas.

Economic and "daily life" disruption: As school systems and businesses modify their schedules, it may be difficult for the region to grasp that this may be a high-impact event for a week. It could be tempting to assume that things will start "looking up" once the hurricane makes landfall. Unfortunately, the duration of this event will create significant stress on food supply, gasoline, energy, and day-to-day functionality. The affected area is also home to one-third of the nation's refining capacity. Analysis are already reporting that gasoline futures and other aspects of the market are already responding to the threat.

Dr. Rheeda Walker is an associate professor of psychology at The University of Houston. She is also a former colleague at The University of Georgia. She told me,

I'm glad to see that people are taking the alerts seriously so much so that as of this afternoon, local stores are completely out of water. Some area schools are issuing closing announcements. My biggest concern is that this storm and the amount of rain and flooding could exceed all of our preparations and anything that we could have imagined living through. I pray that doesn't happen.

Dr. Walker's instincts are correct. I fear this may the last time we use the name "Harvey" since historically-high impact storms have their name retired. I hope that I am wrong.

Dr. Marshall Shepherd, Dir., Atmospheric Sciences Program/GA Athletic Assoc. Distinguished Professor (Univ of Georgia), Host, Weather Channel's Sunday Talk Show, Weather (Wx) Geeks, 2013 AMS President"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marshallshepherd/2017/08/24/four-dangers-of-hurricane-harvey-that-may-not-be-obvious-to-the-public/#14b5e78e5e17
No. 74     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 8:50 PM     
The news here on this chart is bad news, and a recipe for disaster. Notice how the storm is predicted to just hang around in the same place for the next 5-6 days?

Those people down there are in trouble, in many ways. This could be another Katrina like event in some ways about to unfold down there...

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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 9:03 PM     
As much as I hate NPR...

Warnings Of 'Catastrophic Flooding' As Tropical Storm Harvey Lingers Over Texas

August 26, 20179:30 AM ET

Updated at 4:02 p.m. ET

"Tropical Storm Harvey remains a serious threat as it continues a slow march across Texas, killing at least one person, even as the National Hurricane Center downgraded it from a hurricane on Saturday.

While the wind was weakening, the rain proved to be relentless.

"We could see isolated areas with rainfall amounts as much as 40 inches, and that's going to cause life-threatening flooding over the next several days," said Mike Brennan, senior hurricane specialist at the National Hurricane Center. "We're really looking at a multiday rainfall disaster unfolding."



Harvey is expected to linger for the next few days, dropping significant rainfall over Texas.
National Hurricane Center, National Oceanic And Atmospheric Administration

When Harvey hit land about 30 miles northeast of Corpus Christi around 10 p.m. CT Friday, it was a massive Category 4 storm bringing winds of 130 mph, says The Associated Press. It was the strongest hurricane to hit Texas in decades.

The storm Saturday

It took Harvey just a few hours to drop to a Category 1 hurricane, and by around 1 p.m. CT Saturday, it had been downgraded to a tropical storm, with maximum sustained winds of 70 mph.

Closely monitoring #HurricaneHarvey from Camp David. We are leaving nothing to chance. City, State and Federal Govs. working great together!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 26, 2017

By 7 a.m. CT Saturday, Harvey was centered less than 50 miles from the middle Texas coast near the city of Victoria, Brennan said, and moving north-northwest at around 6 mph.

"The center of Harvey is going to meander here over the middle Texas coast basically through the weekend and into the early and middle portions of next week and that is going to result in catastrophic flooding — life-threatening flooding," Brennan said. "We're seeing tide levels, storm surge inundation reports, of still 4 to 5 feet above ground level among portions of the middle Texas coast."

In the small coastal city of Rockport, Texas, a local county judge said one person has died as a result of the storm. The judge also said that the number of injured had risen to about 12 to 14 individuals.

Earlier in the day, City Manager Kevin Carruth told media outlets at least 10 people were being treated for storm-related injuries. Among the injured were people at a senior housing complex where the roof had collapsed. A local jail was serving as a makeshift hospital, Carruth said.

If you venture outside, there are many active power lines down or compromised citywide. Proceed with extreme caution. #StaySafeCC
— CityOfCorpusChristi (@cityofcc) August 26, 2017

On Saturday, more than 300,000 Texas residents were without power, according to the Electric Reliability Council of Texas.

At a press conference Saturday around 1 p.m. CT, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott expanded a disaster declaration to 50 counties.

"The state and various agencies remain very active in the search and rescue process and that will be one of the foremost tasks that we undertake in the coming days," the governor said.

On the ground in Corpus Christi, Texas

Much road debris and downed power lines. Most traffic lights are out. Please be patient. Let us get things safe for your return. #Harvey
— Corpus Christi PD (@CorpusChristiPD) August 26, 2017

Corpus Christi had already seen around 20 inches of rain by midday Saturday, according to Abbott.

The city's police department tweeted Saturday, "Much road debris and downed power lines. Most traffic lights are out. Please be patient."

The city urged "extreme caution" to those venturing outside because there were "many active power lines down or compromised citywide."

Corpus Christi has also issued a "precautionary" boil water notification "to ensure destruction of all harmful bacteria and other microbes." Residents are being urged to limit toilet and faucet use because power was knocked out at the city's wastewater treatment plants.

NPR's Russell Lewis spent a rough night in Corpus Christi at a hotel overlooking the Corpus Christi Bay.

"All night long, you could feel the windows rattling," Lewis says. "You could feel the building swaying, and there was just debris hitting the hotel all night long."

On Friday, Lewis reported that he could see shingles blowing off the hotel. He said there were hundreds of Corpus Christi residents who opted to hunker down at the hotel rather than leave town.

Mixed messages from state, local officials on Friday

On Friday, Abbott had urged residents between Corpus Christi and Houston "to strongly consider evacuating." But Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner tweeted Friday, "Please think twice before trying to leave Houston en masse. No evacuation orders have been issued for the city."

AlertHouston - Hurricane Harvey's Effects Beginning to Impact Houston https://t.co/fD5GOWtGGS #houwx
— AlertHouston (@AlertHouston) August 26, 2017

Houston, the nation's fourth biggest city, is notoriously prone to flooding, reports the AP. By Saturday morning, high-water areas were already reported in the city, according to The Houston Chronicle.

Severe weather continues, forecast into next week

A reporter with The Texas Tribune tweeted that three prisons near Houston were being evacuated, affecting about 4,500 inmates, as a nearby river rose.

The capital city of Austin, about 165 miles west of Houston, could see up to 20 inches of rain over the coming days, reports NPR's Windsor Johnston.

3 Texas prisons are now being evacuated near Houston as the nearby river rises. #HurricaneHarvey #Harvey pic.twitter.com/gEaZt2sNzV
— Jolie McCullough (@jsmccullou) August 26, 2017

Nevertheless, Austin Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Management spokesman Jake Dirr tells Johnston that the city is preparing to take in evacuees from harder-hit areas and is asking for volunteers to assist.

A complicating factor on Saturday was a tornado threat for the middle and upper Texas coast, which remains in effect throughout the day, Brennan said.

Houston was under a tornado watch on Saturday, meaning tornadoes could form at any time. The city reported that tornadoes "have already formed and caused damage in neighboring communities this morning."

Federal help

On Saturday, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt waived "certain fuel requirements" to address shortages caused by Harvey.

An EPA statement said Pruitt determined "extreme and unusual fuel supply circumstances exist in portions of Texas as a result of the hurricane, and has granted a temporary waiver to help ensure an adequate supply of gasoline is available in the affected areas until normal supply to the region can be restored."

On Friday, President Trump approved a federal disaster declaration for impacted areas, freeing up funding for aid including temporary housing."

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/26/546326246/warnings-of-catastrophic-flooding-as-tropical-storm-harvey-lingers-over-texas
No. 76     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 9:18 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

Thanks for the updates and info BF!

I have family in TX and have Texas in my prayers!



What part of TX are they in?

And yeah, many people in TX certainly do need Prayer right now, and over the next week and even beyond...
No. 77     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 9:22 PM     
LOLOKGal wrote:

WOW! I wonder how I've missed this news! Thanks for this post. Sure will be praying for all!



This Hurricane formed rapidly in less than 48 hours. Before then it had weakened to a Tropical Depression, and they thought it was nothing to worry about at some point. But it fooled and surprised even Meteorologists at the speed at which it had reformed and strengthened back into a Cat4 status by the time it hit the coast.
No. 78     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 9:27 PM     
crayons wrote:

after 15 years Mustang isle Beachfront property
might once again be a steal! Ca-Ching $$$

i bid on half that island once and was only beat
by one bid. hope the toilet gets flushed this time.


One of the biggest natural disasters in over a decade and all crayons can think about is how much $$$ he can make off the misfortunes of others. :rolleyes:

Amazing.
No. 79     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 10:18 PM     
Thats Right; i'm very Interested in Mustang;
as well as one certain deep water port investment property.

and i'm Very Happy today the rockport/magnolia/lolita/long
doper clan is Now Out of Business; waited a long time for this.
No. 80     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 11:19 PM     
just a tip; go long on D9 rental co's
No. 81     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  LOLOKGal   Gender: F   Age: 41   on  Aug 26, 2017 at 11:38 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

there are people who wouldn't leave and on the news they said if you dont leave write your name and your social security on your body so we can easily identify you. lol. If that didnt scare them nothing will.

WOW! That would scare me! O.O
No. 82     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 12:05 AM     
Lowe's Donates $500,000 To American Red Cross Disaster Relief After Hurricane Harvey

http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/Lowe-s-Donates-500-000-To-American-Red-Cross-Disaster-Relief-After-Hurricane-Harvey-1002286591

Aug. 26, 2017, 04:33 PM

"MOORESVILLE, N.C., Aug. 26, 2017 /PRNewswire/ -- In response to the widespread devastation caused by Hurricane Harvey in Texas, Lowe's announced today a $500,000 contribution to American Red Cross Disaster Relief to help the Red Cross provide food, emergency shelter, relief supplies and comfort to those affected by disasters like Hurricane Harvey and countless other crises. Lowe's is working with its national nonprofit partners to provide both immediate and long-term support to local communities.

Lowe's has also activated its American Red Cross customer donation program at its Texas stores to provide a convenient place for customers to make a donation. People also can make a contribution online through the Lowe's American Red Cross Online Donation Site.

Lowe's Emergency Command Center continues to expedite truckloads of needed clean-up and recovery supplies including generators, bottled water, gas cans, chainsaws, water removal equipment, insect repellant, shovels, rakes and other tools to our Lowe's stores impacted by the storm.

"Our thoughts and concerns are with those impacted by this storm, including our own Lowe's employees," said James Frison, Lowe's community relations director. "As families begin the difficult recovery process, we want them to know Lowe's will work closely with the Red Cross and our other partners to support their rebuilding efforts every step of the way."

Lowe's employs more than 23,000 people in Texas and in the coming weeks, Lowe's Heroes volunteers will help with relief and recovery efforts in communities affected by the storm.

"Hurricane Harvey has caused widespread destruction and has impacted thousands of people," said Don Herring, chief development officer at the American Red Cross. "We are so grateful for the generous support of Lowe's to American Red Cross Disaster Relief, which enables us to prepare for, respond to and help people recover from disasters big and small."

Lowe's is also supporting employees affected by the storm through its Employee Relief Fund which provides financial assistance in times of crisis. Since it was established in 1999, the fund has helped approximately 26,000 employees by providing more than $29 million in financial aid.

As a member of the Red Cross' Annual Disaster Giving Program, Lowe's pledges donations on an ongoing basis in advance of disasters to help ensure the Red Cross can take immediate action. Since partnering with the Red Cross in 1999, Lowe's and its customers have contributed more than $28 million for disaster relief.

About Lowe's
Lowe's, a FORTUNE® 50 home improvement company, has a 60-year legacy of supporting the communities it serves through programs that focus on K-12 public education and community improvement projects. In the past decade, Lowe's and the Lowe's Charitable and Educational Foundation together have contributed nearly $300 million to these efforts, and for more than two decades Lowe's Heroes volunteers have donated their time to make our communities better places to live. For the latest news, visit Newsroom.Lowes.com or follow @LowesMedia on Twitter."
No. 83     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 12:11 AM     
Thats where my SS number went.
now it will be on EBay>((laugh))
No. 84     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 12:41 AM     
"THE WORST IS YET TO COME: CATASTROPHIC RAINFALL FLOODING AHEAD"

Flooding and Destructive Winds Could Leave Areas Uninhabitable for Extended Period of Time"


"Flash Flood Emergencies: Harvey's Catastrophic Texas Rainfall Flooding Ahead a Possible Double Whammy for Surge-Flooded, Wind-Damaged Coast
By Jon Erdman
Aug 27 2017 12:45 AM EDT
weather.com

Story Highlights

After landfall late Friday night, Harvey has now stalled, as expected.

Periods of torrential rain will continue over parts of Texas the next several days.

This will lead to catastrophic river flooding in parts of Texas that may last for weeks.

This river flooding will deliver a second round of flooding to areas along the coast hit by storm surge.

What is now Tropical Storm Harvey's siege of torrential rain has only just begun and will likely lead to record-breaking, catastrophic flooding in some parts of Texas that will last for weeks, including in areas ravaged by Harvey's destructive Category 4 winds and storm surge.

FLASH FLOOD EMERGENCIES have been issued for parts of the Houston metro area. Nearly 10 inches of rain has fallen near Houston Hobby Airport in the last 90 minutes, and extremely high rainfall rates will cause flash flooding through 1:45 AM CDT.

Numerous water rescues are ongoing in Houston.

Portions of southeastern Texas have seen 6-15 inches of rainfall already.

Buffalo and Brays Bayous on the west side of The Loop are climbing out of their banks due to torrential rainfall.

In addition, Mary's Creek in Friendswood has surged out its banks.

Harvey made landfall Friday night near Rockport, Texas, north of Corpus Christi, as the first Category 4 hurricane to landfall in the U.S. since Charley in August 2004.

(MORE: Hurricane Central | Latest Impacts | How You Can Help Victims)

Harvey's weakening over land does not mean the rainfall threat is diminishing. Just the opposite, it is only beginning.
Already Over a Foot of Rain

Harvey's center of circulation is moving at a snail's pace across southern Texas, as expected, roughly 95 miles from where it made landfall late Friday night.

Bands of heavy rain have already wrapped around Harvey's circulation, as far north as central Texas, including the Austin and Houston metro areas, and even into southwest Louisiana.

(MORE: Latest Houston Impacts)

Rainfall amounts of more than 12 inches have already accumulated in southeast Texas.

(MORE: Harvey By the Numbers)

Days of Heavy Rain

Harvey is caught in a zone of light steering winds aloft, and therefore will meander near the Texas coast for days to come.

The tropical storm is currently caught in between two areas of high pressure and without another weather system to scoop Harvey up, it will be stuck for the next few days.

(MORE: Interactive Harvey Forecast Path)

A tropical cyclone's rainfall potential is a function of its forward speed, not its intensity. Several days of torrential rain will add up to prolific multi-day totals, regardless of any downgrade of Harvey.

Areas of heavy rain may persist in parts of Texas or the adjacent Lower Mississippi Valley into at least part of Labor Day weekend.

(MORE: Water, Not Wind, the Deadliest Factor in U.S. Tropical Storms, Hurricanes)

Here are the latest five-day rainfall forecasts from the NHC and NOAA's Weather Prediction Center:

Middle/upper Texas coast: 15 to 25 inches, with isolated totals up to 40 inches
Deep South Texas and Texas Hill Country eastward to central and southwest Louisiana: 5 to 15 inches

These peak rain totals are roughly the average yearly precipitation in Austin (34.29 inches) and Corpus Christi, Texas (31.73 inches). So, a year's worth of rain may fall in the span of a few days.
Long-Lived Flooding

Local National Weather Service (NWS) offices have not minced words about the rainfall flooding, warning that some structures could become uninhabitable or be washed away. Road and bridges could be closed, with some weakened or washed out, due to the record river flooding expected in some areas.

Rivers are rapidly rising in the Houston metro area due to extremely heavy rain.

(MORE: Your Vehicle Can Be the Biggest Danger in a Flood)

The NWS is forecasting major river flooding in roughly four dozen locations in southeast Texas.

(MORE: NWS River Flood Forecasts)

Homes may be flooded along stretches of the Brazos, Colorado, Guadalupe, Navidad and San Bernard Rivers.

Flooding along the Brazos River in Richmond, Texas, could top the previous record crest set just one summer ago, on June 2, 2016.

Much of the west and southwest sides of Wharton, Texas, could be under water from the Colorado River. The river may overtop levees by several feet in Bay City.

The Guadalupe River may flood parts of the city of Victoria. Upstream, the west side of the town of Cuero may experience disastrous flooding, potentially forcing all roads to be shut down into town except highway 87. Near Thomaston, hundreds of homes may be flooded to over 10 feet, according to National Weather Service accounts of previous floods.

Given the longevity of the rainfall, and flood water draining from smaller tributaries, it's likely mainstem rivers such as the Brazos, Colorado and Guadalupe rivers will remain above flood stage into Labor Day weekend, possibly beyond.
River Flooding After Surge Flooding

These flood waters will drain toward areas near the middle Texas coast hammered by storm surge flooding and destructive winds from Harvey's initial landfall.

Persistent onshore winds are still keeping water levels higher than normal along the middle Texas coast, including such areas as Port O' Connor and Port Lavaca. This coastal flooding may continue through multiple high-tide cycles the next few days, only slowly subsiding with time.

(MORE: Three Reasons Slow-Moving Tropical Storms and Hurricanes Are the Worst)

These surge-choked bays and inlets won't allow these swollen rivers to drain fast enough, backing up these rivers and worsening flooding upstream, just as the floodwater upstream arrives.

It will be an arudously slow process to first get coastal water levels down, then drain the massive volume of floodwater upstream. This process will likely continue past Labor Day, in some areas.

Recap: A Truly Historic Hurricane

Harvey made landfall Friday night near Rockport, a town of less than 10,000 people and about 30 miles up the Texas coast from Corpus Christi.

Harvey is this nation's first major (Category 3 or stronger) hurricane landfall since Hurricane Wilma struck South Florida in October 2005, an almost 12-year run. A multi-day deluge of the Texas Gulf Coast with catastrophic and life-threatening flooding and destructive winds through could leave areas uninhabitable for an extended period of time, the National Weather Service has warned.

Harvey went from a tropical depression to a major hurricane in 56 hours. It intensified rapidly to a Category 4 hurricane with winds up to 130 mph after moving over a pocket of hot water in the Gulf.

Harvey is also the strongest landfall in this area, known as the Texas Coastal Bend, since Hurricane Carla, in September 1961, produced catastrophic damage from storm surge and high winds in Port O'Connor and Palacios, Texas, among other locations.

The only other Category 4 landfall of record near the Texas Coastal Bend was the infamous Indianola hurricane of August 1886, which devastated the town of Indianola just 11 years after another Category 3 hurricane, eventually turning the former bustling port into a ghost town.

A storm surge of more than 6.6 feet was recorded at Port Lavaca, Texas, with destructive surge reported in other locations along the Texas Coastal Bend.

There have been at least 12 tornadoes, so far, with the total number of tornadoes still yet to be determined.

One apparent tornado crossed Interstate 10 and hit a storage facility in the west Houston metro suburb of Katy around 5:30-6:00 a.m. Saturday.

At least one tornado was confirmed in northwestern Harris County, Texas.

In the southwest suburb of Missouri City, more than 50 homes were damaged in the Sienna Plantation neighborhood.
Rainfall Totals

Here are the latest rainfall totals through 4 p.m. CDT Saturday:

15.10 inches near Austwell
13.82 inches San Antonio River near McFadden
10.54 inches in Aransas
9.92 inches near Richmond
9.37 inches near Victoria
8.58 inches near Sugar Land
7.73 inches in Palacios
7.33 inches at Houston Hull Field
6.81 inches in Galveston
3.97 inches in Meyerland or near Houston (one hour total between 9pm-10pm CDT Saturday)
2.90 inches near Corpus Christi

Strongest Wind Gusts

Here are the highest wind gusts we've seen from Harvey:

Port Aransas: 132 mph, sustained to 110 mph
Near Copano Village: 125 mph
Near Lamar: 110 mph
Rockport: 108 mph
Near Taft: 90 mph
Near Magnolia Beach: 79 mph
Palacios: 69 mph
Corpus Christi Int'l Airport: 63 mph
Austin Bergstrom Int'l Airport: 52 mph

Check back with weather.com for updates on Harvey.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-hurricane-harvey-rain-flood-forecast-texas-louisiana


No. 85     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 1:03 AM     
Three Reasons Slow-Moving Tropical Storms and Hurricanes Are the Worst

Story Highlights

"The impacts from slow-moving tropical storms and hurricanes can be drawn out over several days in a particular location.

Rainfall flooding is a particularly dangerous concern.

Tropical storms and hurricanes that move slowly near the coast or inland are among the most feared by forecasters.

Sometimes, these tropical cyclones may not have powerful wind speeds, but the threats posed can be amplified due to their sluggish pace.

We'll be tracking Harvey for many days to come and it's a reminder of the dangers of slow-moving storms. Here are three things we typically watch for.

(MORE: Latest Details on Harvey)
1. Slow Forward Speed Means Major Flooding

The amount of rainfall a tropical storm or hurricane can produce is a function of its forward speed. As illustrated in the graphic to the right, the slower the speed, the more incredible the rainfall amounts can become.

A storm chugging along at just 5 mph has a rainfall potential upwards of 30 inches, while one moving briskly at 20 mph typically produces much smaller rain totals in any given location.

The amount of rain expected from a tropical storm or hurricane is just as important – if not more important, in some cases – than the wind speeds.

About 27 percent of all U.S. hurricane deaths from 1963 to 2012 were from rainfall flooding. For comparison, strong winds contributed to 8 percent of the deaths during that time.

(MORE: Water is Deadliest Factor in U.S. Hurricanes and Tropical Storms)

Tropical Storm Allison and its remnants loitered for days in the Houston area in June 2001, unleashing more than 40 inches of rain which resulted in massive flooding and 23 deaths in Texas alone.

Southeast Texas saw another soaker in late-July 1979 from Tropical Storm Claudette. The heaviest rain amount was recorded just to the south of Houston in the town of Alvin. An observer measured a record 43 inches of rainfall in just 24 hours, which stands as the greatest 24-hour rainfall total in U.S. history.

In 1994, flooding from Tropical Storm Alberto killed 31 people as it moved slowly across the western Florida Panhandle, Alabama and Georgia. Americus, Georgia, saw 21 inches of rain in just 24 hours.

2. Piling Up the Water

Storms that stall or move at a snail's pace near the coastline are known to pile up water and prolong the coastal flooding potential.

This is because the winds blow onshore for a longer period of time. It doesn't allow the water to recede from inlets, bays and rivers as it would normally with a storm that moves inland at a more progressive pace.

One of the most recent examples was Hurricane Isaac in 2012, which moved slowly and even stalled at one point near the Louisiana coast. Though Isaac's maximum strength was a Category 1, its large wind field and slow movement prolonged the storm surge inundation.

The persistent east to southeast winds produced an 11-foot storm surge at Shell Beach, Louisiana – higher than that of Hurricane Gustav in 2008.

A so-called back levee was overwhelmed by storm surge in Plaquemines Parish, Louisiana, on Aug. 29, 2012, sending water up to 12 feet high into the town of Braithwaite, Louisiana, an area that did not flood significantly in Hurricane Katrina.

Major surge flooding also affected the south side of Slidell, Louisiana, as well as St. John the Baptist Parish near La Place at the west edge of Lake Pontchartrain.

3. Persistent Winds

Although winds decrease within a tropical storm or hurricane as it moves inland, they can remain strong for a longer period of time.

These long-lasting winds compound the stress on trees. If the soil is saturated or outright flooded by heavy rain, trees can topple easier at lower wind speeds than otherwise with drier soil.

This can lead to widespread tree damage and power outages."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/slow-moving-tropical-storms-hurricanes-dangerous
No. 86     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 2:01 AM     
As is common in the aftermath of Hurricanes, the true scope and extent of the destruction often does not become apparent until days afterwards as the outside world gets into the battered areas.

Looking at these photos Harvey sure left his mark on many areas totally decimating structures in many cases. Boats stacked up on top of one another like dominoes, and many left stranded up on dry land by the storm surge.

Too many photos to post here, but here are 293 photos of the devastation left behind by Harvey.

This gallery will be updated regularly by the Weather Channel as new photos of the damage come in so check back frequently to see the new ones.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-hurricane-harvey-images
No. 87     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 2:45 AM     
Flash flooding now happening in Houston. 1 Woman killed when she tried to exit her vehicle.

Numerous swiftwater rescues taking place there.

People being forced to climb into their attics like during Katrina to escape the rising floodwaters.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/harvey-texas-impacts-flooding
No. 88     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 2:55 AM     
Record breaking flooding occurring in Houston area right now. 1 Creek in Houston surpassed it's 500 year floodwater mark.

Shelves stripped bare in all stores there, no bottled water left.

Comcast Xfinity unlocked all 53,000 of their WiFi Hotspots all around the Houston area to assist people.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-houston-texas-impacts
No. 89     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 4:08 AM     
Days of Dangerous Flooding Ahead

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-hurricane-harvey-rain-flood-forecast-texas-louisiana
No. 90     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 4:52 AM     
Continued prayers for all of those being affected by Hurricane Harvery. :pray:

Thank you Bullfighter for all you have done in sharing the reports of it. :thumb_up:
No. 91     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 5:46 AM     
Over 400 water rescues performed in the Houston area Saturday night. Hundreds more stranded in cars across roads in the area. Thousands of homes are taking on water and hundreds of people are trapped and stranded in rising floodwaters across the Houston metro after Harvey dumped more than 20" of rain. The death toll from Harvey has risen to at least 3 as hundreds of water rescues are underway across the area.

“There is life-threatening, catastrophic flooding happening now in Southeast Harris County,” Jeff Lindner of the Harris County Flood Control District told The Weather Channel.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-houston-texas-impacts
No. 92     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 6:02 AM     
RadioPreacherMan wrote:

Continued prayers for all of those being affected by Hurricane Harvery. :pray:

Thank you Bullfighter for all you have done in sharing the reports of it. :thumb_up:


Yep, it's a good time to be Praying for those many people devastated by by the flooding.

I share the reports for a number of reasons, and working 3rd shift I have time between rounds it helps keep me awake, lol.

I myself have experienced severe flooding on a number of occasions over the years so in some ways can identify with it. Most recently near work here in Town! And the plant DID flood here at work too, storm sewers backed up into the plant!

It took about a whole month for the Fox River to recede back down to normal levels.
No. 93     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 6:16 AM     
"CATASTROPHE IN PROGRESS IN HOUSTON"

Thousands of homes under water, many trapped and stranded, interstates under water, 1,000+ rescued

"...Hundreds of water rescues were underway in the Houston metro as water levels rose.

Feet of water is reportedly in homes across Houston.

Hobby airport is closed due to the storm.

Thousands of homes are taking on water and hundreds of people are trapped and stranded in rising floodwaters across the Houston metro after Harvey dumped more than 20" of rain. Hundreds of water rescues were underway across the area as the death toll from Harvey rose to three.

“There is life-threatening, catastrophic flooding happening now in Southeast Harris County,” Jeff Lindner of the Harris County Flood Control District told The Weather Channel.

Lindner said water had overtopped Interstate 10, that there had been more than 1,000 water rescues overnight in the Houston area and that hundreds more were stranded in cars across roadways in the area..."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-houston-texas-flooding
No. 94     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 6:32 AM     
"Harvey's Catastrophic Texas Rainfall Flooding Threat to Continue For Days; More Than 20 Inches of Rain Reported"

By Jon Erdman and Chris Dolce
Aug 27 2017 06:15 AM EDT
weather.com

"Story Highlights

Harvey has stalled inland over Texas.

Periods of torrential rain will continue over parts of Texas the next several days.

Catastrophic and record flooding has already occurred.

Some locations southeast of Houston have seen more than 20 inches of rain in 24 hours.

Tropical Storm Harvey has stalled over Texas where extreme rainfall has occurred in the Houston metro area, leading to record-breaking, catastrophic flooding. Days of drenching downpours are ahead along with the potential for tornadoes and lingering coastal flooding.

Localized rain amounts of 40-50 inches are not out of the question once Harvey's rain is finished later this week. This may end up being one of the worst flood disasters in U.S. history.

In the 24 hours through Sunday 4 a.m. CDT, parts of the southeast Houston metro area had received more than 20 inches of rain. One location in far southeast Harris County near Webster logged 23.72 inches of rain in 24 hours and 25.92 inches in 48 hours.

Last 24-Hour Rainfall Estimate

Last 24-Hour Rainfall Estimate

Record flooding has occurred and the flooding has rivaled what occurred in Tropical Storm Allison (2001) in at least one location. Reports from the Harris County Flood Control District (HCFCD) include:

Record flooding in Harris County has been observed at Little Cedar Bayou, Willow Spring Bayou, Armand Bayou, Turkey Creek, Beamer Ditch, Berry Bayou, Buffalo Bayou at West Belt, Horsepen Bayou
Little Vince Bayou in the Houston suburb of Pasadena had reportedly equaled the level it reached during Tropical Storm Allison in 2001 early Sunday morning.
Devastating flooding was occurring on the middle and lower Clear Creek.
Lower Hunting Bayou flooding was likely very deep in homes.
More than 1,000 water rescues have occurred due to flooding in Harris County.

(MORE: Latest Houston Impacts)

Harvey made landfall Friday night near Rockport, Texas, north of Corpus Christi, as the first Category 4 hurricane to landfall in the U.S. since Charley in August 2004.

(MORE: Hurricane Central | Latest Impacts | How You Can Help Victims)

The circulation from Harvey will meander over the state for days to come, resulting in additional double digit rainfall amounts. Here's what to expect.
Days of Heavy Rain Ahead

Harvey's center of circulation is moving very slowly over south Texas and is expected to crawl southeast towards the Texas coast in the next couple of days.

Bands of heavy rain are wrapping into the east side of the circulation center, resulting in the disastrous flooding that has unfolded in parts of southeast Texas. Rain from Harvey is also affecting areas north and west of its circulation to the I-35 corridor.

(MORE: Harvey By the Numbers)

Current Radar, Watches and Warnings

Current Radar, Watches and Warnings

Harvey is caught in a zone of light steering winds aloft, and therefore will meander near the Texas coast for days to come.

The tropical storm is currently caught in between two areas of high pressure and without another weather system to scoop Harvey up, it will be stuck for the next few days.

Projected Path

Projected Path

The projected path shows the expected track of the circulation center. Note that impacts such as heavy rain and storm surge can extend beyond this forecast path.

A tropical cyclone's rainfall potential is a function of its forward speed, not its intensity. Several days of torrential rain will add up to prolific multi-day totals, regardless of any downgrade of Harvey.

Areas of heavy rain may persist in parts of Texas or the adjacent Lower Mississippi Valley into at least part of Labor Day weekend.

(MORE: Water, Not Wind, the Deadliest Factor in U.S. Tropical Storms, Hurricanes)

Here are the latest five-day rainfall forecasts from the NHC and NOAA's Weather Prediction Center:

Middle/upper Texas coast: 15 to 25 inches, with isolated totals up to 40 inches
Deep South Texas and Texas Hill Country eastward to central and southwest Louisiana: 5 to 15 inches

Rainfall Outlook

Rainfall Outlook

Areas in red, purple, pink and white are in the highest threat for flooding rainfall from Harvey through the weekend. Some of this rain may linger into Thursday or beyond in some areas.

Long-Lived Flooding

Local National Weather Service (NWS) offices have not minced words about the rainfall flooding, warning that some structures could become uninhabitable or be washed away. Road and bridges could be closed, with some weakened or washed out, due to the record river flooding expected in some areas.

(MORE: Your Vehicle Can Be the Biggest Danger in a Flood)

The NWS is forecasting major river flooding in roughly four dozen locations in southeast Texas.

(MORE: NWS River Flood Forecasts)

Rivers forecast to be above flood stage by the National Weather Service River Forecast Centers, as of Saturday, August 26, 2017. Locations in major flood are denoted by purple dots, moderate flood by red dots, and minor flood by orange dots. (NOAA/NWS)

Homes may be flooded along stretches of the Brazos, Colorado, Guadalupe, Navidad and San Bernard Rivers.

Flooding along the Brazos River in Richmond, Texas, could top the previous record crest set just one summer ago, on June 2, 2016.

Much of the west and southwest sides of Wharton, Texas, could be under water from the Colorado River. The river may overtop levees by several feet in Bay City.

The Guadalupe River may flood parts of the city of Victoria. Upstream, the west side of the town of Cuero may experience disastrous flooding, potentially forcing all roads to be shut down into town except highway 87. Near Thomaston, hundreds of homes may be flooded to over 10 feet, according to National Weather Service accounts of previous floods.

Given the longevity of the rainfall, and flood water draining from smaller tributaries, it's likely mainstem rivers such as the Brazos, Colorado and Guadalupe rivers will remain above flood stage into Labor Day weekend, possibly beyond.
River Flooding After Surge Flooding

These flood waters will drain toward areas near the middle Texas coast hammered by storm surge flooding and destructive winds from Harvey's initial landfall.

Persistent onshore winds are still keeping water levels higher than normal along the middle Texas coast, including such areas as Port O' Connor and Port Lavaca. This coastal flooding may continue through multiple high-tide cycles the next few days, only slowly subsiding with time.

(MORE: Three Reasons Slow-Moving Tropical Storms and Hurricanes Are the Worst)

These surge-choked bays and inlets won't allow these swollen rivers to drain fast enough, backing up these rivers and worsening flooding upstream, just as the floodwater upstream arrives.

It will be an arudously slow process to first get coastal water levels down, then drain the massive volume of floodwater upstream. This process will likely continue past Labor Day, in some areas.

As a growing volume of water from swollen rivers tries to drain downstream, it will be met by still elevated water levels driven by onshore winds from the Gulf of Mexico.

Recap: A Truly Historic Hurricane

Harvey made landfall Friday night near Rockport, a town of less than 10,000 people and about 30 miles up the Texas coast from Corpus Christi.

Harvey is this nation's first major (Category 3 or stronger) hurricane landfall since Hurricane Wilma struck South Florida in October 2005, an almost 12-year run. A multi-day deluge of the Texas Gulf Coast with catastrophic and life-threatening flooding and destructive winds through could leave areas uninhabitable for an extended period of time, the National Weather Service has warned.

Harvey went from a tropical depression to a major hurricane in 56 hours. It intensified rapidly to a Category 4 hurricane with winds up to 130 mph after moving over a pocket of hot water in the Gulf.

Harvey is also the strongest landfall in this area, known as the Texas Coastal Bend, since Hurricane Carla, in September 1961, produced catastrophic damage from storm surge and high winds in Port O'Connor and Palacios, Texas, among other locations.

The only other Category 4 landfall of record near the Texas Coastal Bend was the infamous Indianola hurricane of August 1886, which devastated the town of Indianola just 11 years after another Category 3 hurricane, eventually turning the former bustling port into a ghost town.

A storm surge of more than 6.6 feet was recorded at Port Lavaca, Texas, with destructive surge reported in other locations along the Texas Coastal Bend.

There have been at least 12 tornadoes, so far, with the total number of tornadoes still yet to be determined.

One apparent tornado crossed Interstate 10 and hit a storage facility in the west Houston metro suburb of Katy around 5:30-6:00 a.m. Saturday.

At least one tornado was confirmed in northwestern Harris County, Texas.

In the southwest suburb of Missouri City, more than 50 homes were damaged in the Sienna Plantation neighborhood.
Rainfall Totals

Here are the latest rainfall totals through 1 a.m. CDT Sunday:

21.08 inches in League City
18.28 inches near Pasadena
15.10 inches near Austwell
15.10 inches near Smithville
13.82 inches San Antonio River near McFadden
15.00 inches near South Houston (six hour total)
13.52 inches near Sugar Land
10.54 inches in Aransas
9.92 inches near Richmond
9.37 inches near Victoria
7.73 inches in Palacios
7.33 inches at Houston Hull Field
6.81 inches in Galveston
5.96 inches in Berry Bayou (Harris County - three hour total between 9 pm -12 am CDT Sat/Sun)
3.97 inches in Meyerland or near Houston (one hour total between 9pm-10pm CDT Saturday)
2.90 inches near Corpus Christi

Strongest Wind Gusts

Here are the highest wind gusts we've seen from Harvey:

Port Aransas: 132 mph, sustained to 110 mph
Near Copano Village: 125 mph
Near Lamar: 110 mph
Rockport: 108 mph
Near Taft: 90 mph
Near Magnolia Beach: 79 mph
Palacios: 69 mph
Corpus Christi Int'l Airport: 63 mph
Austin Bergstrom Int'l Airport: 52 mph

Check back with weather.com for updates on Harvey."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-hurricane-harvey-rain-flood-forecast-texas-louisiana
No. 95     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 6:39 AM     

"Hurricane Harvey: How You Can Help the Victims"
By Eric Chaney
Aug 26 2017 01:00 PM EDT
weather.com

"Hundreds of High-Water Rescues in Houston

Catastrophic flooding in Houston prompts hundreds of high-water rescues.

Story Highlights

Hurricane Harvey is forecast to bring catastrophic flooding to much of Texas' Gulf Coast.

Thousands have already been displaced.

The impacts from Hurricane Harvey are just getting started on the Texas Gulf Coast, but the storm has already displaced thousands of people from their homes.

Catastrophic flooding is forecast from a combination of heavy rainfall, storm surge and normal tides –- up to 12 feet in certain areas along the coast – and countless homes and businesses will be inundated.

Hundreds if not thousands of people will return to find their lives and livelihoods upended, but there are plenty of organizations on the ground to help those victims rebuild.

If you want to donate, here are a few places to get started.

Red Cross

The Red Cross is mobilizing trained Red Cross disaster relief workers to support this response effort, and has more than shelters ready to open and support thousands of people if needed. Trailers full of shelter and relief supplies have been pre-positioned including cots, blankets, comfort and cleaning supplies.

Donate: Visit http://redcross.org, call 1-800-RED CROSS or text the word REDCROSS to 90999 to make a $10 donation.

Salvation Army

The Salvation Army has already begun collecting funds to help those affected by the storm. Though most people think of donating clothing or household items first, SA spokesperson Alvin Migues, said physical donations can be a challenge during a disaster.

“Then you have to spend manpower to deal with sorting and other things as they come into the warehouses instead of having those folks out in the field doing the work," he said. "So, we always asked people to send a cash donation instead,” he said.

Donate: You can donate cash online at http://disaster.salvationarmyusa.org or by phone at 1-800-725-2769.

South Texas Blood and Tissue Center

The STBTC is in dire need of blood donations to prepare South Texas Hospitals for Hurricane Harvey. The center says although O negative and O positive blood is at critically low levels, all blood type donations are welcome. The center says less than a day's supply is available. The center is asking the public in the San Antonio and New Braunfels areas to donate right now.

Donate: Visit http://southtexasblood.org or call 210-731-5590 to schedule an appointment to donate blood.

Texas Diaper Bank

"Diapers are not provided by disaster relief agencies," the TDB posted on Facebook Friday. To alleviate that need, the TDB is requesting donations of cash and diapers to provide emergency diaper kits for families that are being displaced due to Hurricane Harvey.

Donate: Visit the donation page at http://texasdiaperbank.org and designate your donation for Disaster Relief."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/how-you-can-help-hurricane-harvey-victims
No. 96     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 6:53 AM     
Franklin Graham's Ministry Samaritan's Purse has semi trailer loads of disaster relief supplies headed to TX right now. To see what he and his partners are doing about assisting Texans see his update page here:

https://www.samaritanspurse.org/article/relief-units-rolling-texas-hurricane-harveys-punch/

You can donate at the above link as well.

If you would like to physically Volunteer and go to help disaster victims with Franklin Graham's Ministry you can do so by signing up right here:

https://spvolunteernetwork.samaritanspurse.org/hurricane-harvey-reponse/
No. 97     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 7:04 AM     
"Catastrophic, Historic Flooding Happening Now in Houston, Death Toll Rising in Harvey"

Story Highlights

"Five people were killed in flooding in Houston, raising the death toll from Harvey to six.

Hundreds of water rescues were underway in the Houston metro as water levels rose.

Feet of water is reportedly in homes across Houston.

Hobby airport is closed due to the storm.

Thousands of homes are taking on water and hundreds of people are trapped and stranded in rising floodwaters across the Houston metro after Harvey dumped more than 20" of rain. More than 1,000 people have been rescued across the area so far as the death toll from Harvey rose to six.

“There is life-threatening, catastrophic flooding happening now in Southeast Harris County,” Jeff Lindner of the Harris County Flood Control District told The Weather Channel.

Five people have died in the Houston area in unconfirmed flood-related deaths as torrential rain continues to fall, according to the National Weather Service.

Dr. Greg Postel, meteorologist and hurricane specialist for The Weather Channel, said the flooding unfolding in the Houston area "could be the worst flooding disaster in U.S. history."

Included in the rescues were 50 children from two apartment complexes, according to the Associated Press.

Lindner said water had overtopped Interstate 10, that there had been more than 1,000 water rescues overnight in the Houston area and that hundreds more were stranded in cars across roadways in the area...."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-houston-texas-flooding
No. 98     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 7:12 AM     
"Hundreds Of High Water Rescues In Houston"

VIDEO: https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/hundreds-of-high-water-rescues-in-houston
No. 99     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 7:18 AM     
Drone flys over Rockport, TX and shows the destruction:

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/drone-shows-destruction-in-rockport-texas
No. 100     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 7:23 AM     
Another video showing the devastation in Rockport, TX:

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/devastation-after-harvey-hits-rockport-texas
No. 101     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 7:28 AM     
"Shelter Cats Moved To Safety From Harvey Path"



https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/shelter-cats-moved-to-safety-from-harvey-path
No. 102     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 8:32 AM     
170 photo slideshow from the Houston Chronicle showing the devastation:

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Harvey-impacts-Texas-Latest-tropical-weather-11953474.php
No. 103     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 8:36 AM     
Dog carrying bag of food after Hurricane Harvey becomes viral hero

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-weather/hurricaneharvey/article/hurricane-harvey-otis-dog-texas-food-mouth-viral-11990775.php?utm_content=chron_ap_zonec_hold_v1&ipid=chronapholdreccos
No. 104     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 8:59 AM     
"PHOTOS: Harvey Turns Houston Into Lake"

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-hurricane-harvey-images
No. 105     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 10:09 AM     
BF -- I got in touch with family yesterday (all - A-Okay -- praise God). TY for asking. Yet as you have brought out ... there is a wider span of flooding now and this brings a new threat...the flooding is even into Louisiana.

TCG -- I hope you are okay.

Those people down there are in trouble, in many ways. This could be another Katrina like event in some ways about to unfold down there...


It's a true tragedy that is quite expansive (the continued optimist in me did not think it would be this bad, but the hurricane did not soften/remained a cat 4 when hitting landfall). Prayers continue to be sent out for families in need because of Harvey and the flooding to follow.

No. 106     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 12:02 PM     
Nothing happened where I am. We had rain for 5 minutes maybe. My trouble will come only if harvery goes back into the gulf, gets strong again and then hits louisiana. Thats not so likely to happen but they dont know. Anyway, Alot of people say this hurricane harvey was not a natural disaster but a man made disaster by HAARP. Texas was targeted. Does anyone believe that?
No. 107     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 12:31 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

BF -- I got in touch with family yesterday (all - A-Okay -- praise God). TY for asking. Yet as you have brought out ... there is a wider span of flooding now and this brings a new threat...the flooding is even into Louisiana.

TCG -- I hope you are okay.

Those people down there are in trouble, in many ways. This could be another Katrina like event in some ways about to unfold down there...


It's a true tragedy that is quite expansive (the continued optimist in me did not think it would be this bad, but the hurricane did not soften/remained a cat 4 when hitting landfall). Prayers continue to be sent out for families in need because of Harvey and the flooding to follow.




I knew it would be bad, all the warning signs were there.

The biggest threat from this monster was not that it made landfall as a Cat4, although that did cause alot of catastrophic damage.

The bigger threat I was seeing was that it was forecast to, "stall" and hover over one area for days in a row.

And we are now seeing the results of that action unfolding right now and will continue to do so over the next few days as it dumps it's payload of moisture all over the same area with no place for it to drain away in time.

The bigger threat from this one is as a Tropical Storm and all the moisture it is now unleashing.

The bigger threat this Hurricane will be remembered for is it's ability to produce massive flooding because it simply isn't going anywhere being trapped between two high pressure air masses.

I followed the storm's speed all last night and it varied between, "0" mph and "1" mph that's it! Winds of 45-50mph but the entire storm is simply not moving, just hovering over one spot.

More people die in Hurricanes due to storm surge or drowning/flooding than because of high winds.
No. 108     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 12:36 PM     
If you notice most of the deaths thus far are centered in Houston and due to drownings not where the Hurricane made landfall with it's high winds.
No. 109     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 12:56 PM     
"Catastrophic, Historic Flooding Happening Now in Houston, Death Toll Rising in Harvey"
By Pam Wright
Aug 27 2017 12:30 PM EDT
weather.com

"Houston: Harvey Not Over Days of Rain Expected

Meteorologist Domenica Davis looks at the forecast for Tropical Storm Harvey, that has brought historic flash flooding to Houston, TX.

Story Highlights

Two people were reportedly killed in flooding in Houston, raising the death toll from Harvey to three.

Hundreds of water rescues were underway in the Houston metro as water levels rose.

Feet of water is reportedly in homes across Houston.

More than two feet of rain has fallen on Houston; More is expected.

Houston's Hobby airport was closed Sunday morning due to the storm and will remain closed until at least Wednesday.

Thousands of homes are taking on water and hundreds of people are trapped and stranded in rising floodwaters across the Houston metro after Harvey dumped more than two feet of rain. More than 1,000 people have been rescued across the area so far as the death toll from Harvey rose to three.

“There is life-threatening, catastrophic flooding happening now in Southeast Harris County,” Jeff Lindner of the Harris County Flood Control District told The Weather Channel.

Two people have died in the Houston area in flood-related deaths as torrential rain continues to fall, according to the National Weather Service.

Dr. Greg Postel, meteorologist and hurricane specialist for The Weather Channel, said the flooding unfolding in the Houston area "could be the worst flooding disaster in U.S. history;" and Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, appearing on Fox News Sunday, said: "We're measuring rain these days not in inches but in feet."

Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner said during a Sunday morning press conference that the city has received more than 2000 emergency calls and urged people to "remain calm, remain patient." He noted that most thoroughfares are impassable and said he's ordered neighborhoods to open libraries and multi-service centers to offer "lilypad" safe havens for people who cannot flee the city because of flooded roads.

"I don't care if there is no food or water there, I just need to have a safe place for people to go," he said.

When reporters asked why no evacuations were ordered despite days of warnings from the National Weather Service, Turner said it would have been "too dangerous" to have millions of residents on the road, noting that "if you think the situation right now is bad and you give an order to evacuate, you are creating a nightmare."

"The best place is for people to remain in their homes," he said.

(MORE: Why Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner Didn't Order Evacuations Before Harvey's Flooding Rains Arrived)

The mayor and Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez urged people to only use 911 in dire emergencies, noting that dispatchers were struggling to keep up with the calls.

"Difficult to get to everyone right away," Gonzalez tweeted. "Hang tight."

Residents have been forced to climb into their attics to escape rising water, KTRK-TV reports, and Gonzalez noted that a family of 10 were rescued from an attic early Sunday by the mayor pro tem of South Houston.

The National Weather Service is warning people to seek shelter on their roofs rather than in attics to avoid becoming trapped by rushing water.

U.S. Coast Guard Air Station Houston says it has five MH-65 Dolphin Helicopters conducting rescues in the greater Houston area and is requesting additional HH-60 Jayhawk Helicopters from New Orleans and support from the Air National Guard to support rescue efforts..."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-houston-texas-flooding
No. 110     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 1:09 PM     
"Downtown Houston Covered In Floodwaters"

"Downtown Houston is bracing for what could be the worst flooding event in US history"

VIDEO: https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/downtown-houston-covered-in-floodwaters
No. 111     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 1:14 PM     
"Streets become rivers in Houston"

VIDEO: https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/streets-become-rivers-in-houston-from-harvey

No. 112     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 1:30 PM     
"Devastating scenes from Houston flooding".

VIDEO: https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/devastating-scenes-from-houston-flooding
No. 113     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 1:39 PM     
"We're Going To Be There For Years" FEMA Director Says of Houston

By Eric Chaney
Aug 27 2017 11:45 AM EDT
weather.com

"Long before Hurricane Harvey came ashore on Texas' Gulf Coast on Friday night, meteorologists, state officials, and first responders were warning people that it had the potential to be a historic weather event. Even though Harvey has downgraded to a tropical storm again, it continues to dump flooding rains over large areas of the state and experts have not dialed their language back.

(FORECAST: Harvey's Catastrophic Flooding Threat to Continue For Days)

Here are some of the most incredible statements about this historic storm:

- “We’re going to be there for years."
FEMA director Brock Long to CNN

"This event is unprecedented & all impacts are unknown & beyond anything experienced." - the National Weather Service in a tweet

- "Scale of damage not yet specifically quantifiable in Houston. Likelihood? We are facing a catastrophic multi-billion-dollar loss."
Steve Bowen, meteorologist at Aon Benfield insurance analytics, in a tweet

- "There is a national disaster unfolding in Texas right now. The scale and scope is unimaginable."
University Corporation for Atmospheric Research meteorologist Michael Lowry in a tweet

- "It's catastrophic, unprecedented, epic – whatever adjective you want to use. It's pretty horrible right now." - National Weather Service meteorologist Patrick Blood to the Houston Chronicle about flooding in the city

- "I know for a fact this is the worst flood Houston has ever experienced. Worse than (Tropical Storm) Allison. It's so widespread." - National Weather Service meteorologist Patrick Blood to the Houston Chronicle about flooding in the city

- "I've never seen anything like it and I'll never see anything like it for the rest of my life." - Rockport resident Robert Zbranek to The Associated Press

- "We’re suggesting if people are going to stay here, mark their arm with a Sharpie pen with their name and Social Security number. We hate to talk about things like that. It's not something we like to do but it’s the reality, people don’t listen." - Rockport Mayor Pro Tem Patrick Rios at a press conference

- "Trying not to be dramatic, but I fear epic flood catastrophe." - University of Georgia Atmospheric Science Program Director in a tweet

- "That's the strongest looking hurricane on satellite I have ever seen." - NBC Charlotte Chief Meteorologist Brad Panovich in a tweet

The Weather Company’s primary journalistic mission is to report on breaking weather news, the environment and the importance of science to our lives. This story does not necessarily represent the position of our parent company, IBM.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/harvey-hurricane-tropical-storm-historic-dire-statements
No. 114     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 1:41 PM     
BF -- Devastating and heartbreaking for the families suffering. Praying for no more deaths and the water to recede (here we have heat warnings and threats of fire...truly there is nowhere that is completely safe against natural disasters).

TCG -- glad to hear you are okay. Not believing in conspiracy stuff myself. God bless.

No. 115     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 2:02 PM     
"Storm Tracker Describes Houston Flood Scene"

VIDEO: https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/storm-tracker-describes-houston-flood-scenehttps://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/storm-tracker-describes-houston-flood-scene
No. 116     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 2:21 PM     
"Governor of Texas activates 3,000 State & National Guard members"

"Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has activated 3,000 national and state guard members after Harvey dumped more than two feet of rain on Houston metro, causing historic and catastrophic flooding from rainfall that was characterized by the National Weather Service as "beyond anything experienced before."

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-houston-texas-flooding
No. 117     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 2:41 PM     
Harvey causes 'catastrophic flooding' in Houston, thousands of rescue calls made
Published August 27, 2017
Fox News

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Hurricane Harvey brings catastrophic flooding to Houston

"Hurricane Harvey continued to pound southeastern Texas on Sunday with "catastrophic flooding" in Houston, forcing residents to flee to their roofs and higher ground as officials respond to thousands of 911 calls for rescues in the "unprecedented" event.

More than 20 inches of rain fell in Houston on Sunday, with the latest forecasts showing 15 to 25 inches in Texas was possible over the next several days. Rainfall from Harvey could reach up to 50 inches in some spots, making it the highest ever recorded in the state, the National Weather Service announced. NWS meteorologist Patrick Burke said rainfall totals will end up around 40 inches or more for Houston on average.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said during a news conference Sunday afternoon that Texas has now activated 3,000 National and State Guard members to combat the severe flooding and damage resulting from the storm. Abbott added that 500 vehicles and 14 aircraft have been put into service.

This event is unprecedented & all impacts are unknown & beyond anything experienced. Follow orders from officials to ensure safety. #Harvey pic.twitter.com/IjpWLey1h8
— NWS (@NWS) August 27, 2017

"This event is unprecedented and all impacts are unknown and beyond anything experienced. Follow orders from officials to ensure safety," the National Weather Service wrote on Twitter.

Between 1,500 and 2,000 high-water rescues have been conducted since Harvey began wreaking havoc in the area, the Harris County Sheriff's Department wrote. Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo also wrote on is Twitter page more than 1,200 residents have been rescued in Houston, "with more to come."

Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner said in a news conference Sunday more than 2,000 calls to 911 for rescues have been made, assuring priority has been given to life-threatening calls. Turner also defended his previous decision not to ask residents to evacuate before the heavy rain swamped roads.

This storm will not break our spirit. We are in this together and we will rebuild even greater together after #HurricaneHarvey
— Sylvester Turner (@SylvesterTurner) August 27, 2017

"If you think the situation right now is bad and you give an order to evacuate, you are creating a nightmare," Turner said.
Two kayakers try to beat the current pushing them down an overflowing Brays Bayou from Tropical Storm Harvey in Houston, Texas, Sunday, Aug. 27, 2017. (Mark Mulligan/Houston Chronicle via AP) Expand / Collapse

Irving Lebleu helps Keshia Walker push her car out of a flooded intersection after Hurricane Harvey made landfall on the Texas Gulf coast, in Houston. (Reuters)

Officials have also called on residents with boats and high-water vehicles to assist with rescues. The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Brock Long, said the government is expected to conduct a "mass care mission" and predicted that the aftermath of the storm would require FEMA's involvement for years. More than 1,200 FEMA employees have been deployed to assist with Harvey response.

"This disaster's going to be a landmark event," Long said.

Acevedo said the city's 911 system has been "overwhelmed" since Harvey struck.

"Do not call 911 unless it is a life or death situation... [we're telling people] not to panic," Acevedo said, adding that "we haven't seen the worst of it yet."

Houston residents, attempting to escape the water quickly rising in their homes, were spotted on top of gates outside their homes and on kayaks. Acevedo urged residents not to go to their attics and instead seek refuge on their roofs.

"Reports of people getting into attic to escape floodwater -- do not do so unless you have an ax or means to break through onto your roof," Acevedo wrote on Twitter.

CBS affiliate KHOU tweeted images showing water pushing through a front door and flooding the lobby. Anchors and the crew continued news coverage on the second floor of the building until it was evacuated due to the flooding.

Rising rainwater also forced Ben Taub Hospital, Harris County's public hospital, to be evacuated and patients to be dispersed to nearby hospitals because flooding problems in the basement are disrupting power service. The water was waist-deep at the Level 1 trauma center.

"We're going to get the sickest patients out first," Bryan McLeon, a spokesman for the Harris Health System said. "We have 16 or 17 people on ventilators."

McLeod said the staff is making sure everything is being done properly, including the transfer of medical records and charts.
tom schlueter houston flooding Expand / Collapse

Tom Schlueter told Fox News the water in his home from Harvey reached up to his chin. (Fox News/Barnini Chakraborty)

"Our staff has been performing heroically."

Harris County sheriff's spokesman Jason Spencer said flooding throughout the county that includes Houston and the region is so widespread that it's "difficult to pinpoint the worst area."
Hurricane Harvey: Killer storm dumps 24 inches of rain on Texas slideshow
Hurricane Harvey: Killer storm dumps 24 inches of rain on Texas

"It's heartbreaking," Spencer said.

Acevedo said rainwater threatens to bring more flooding into the city in the coming days as it trickles down from other parts of the state.

"[I] cannot emphasize enough how much flooding there is on roadways. You are endangering yourself and our first responders by being out. Stay put," Acevedo wrote on Twitter earlier.

Meanwhile, Harris County Sheriff Ed Gonzalez and Turner continued urging residents on Twitter to "shelter in place" and stay off rain-swollen roadways.
Residents sit on a fence surrounded by floodwaters from Tropical Storm Harvey on Sunday, Aug. 27, 2017, in Houston, Texas. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip) Expand / Collapse

Residents sit on a fence surrounded by floodwaters from Tropical Storm Harvey on Sunday. (AP)

Gonzalez actively used Twitter overnight Sunday to field assistance for those trapped inside water-soaked homes, attics and vehicles. Those appealing for assistance or being steered to help via Gonzalez's Twitter feed included a person suffering "cardiac-arrest," and a woman who posted: "I have 2 children with me and the water is swallowing us up. Please send help."

Gonzalez at one point appealed for calm and patience, saying officials were "trying to make it to everyone as best we can."

Flights from William P. Hobby and George Bush Intercontinental airports were halted due to standing water on the runways, according to Fox 26. Thousands of flights were canceled and travelers were left stranded in the area.

Harvey made landfall as a Category 4 hurricane late Friday night, but downgraded to a tropical storm by Saturday. The hurricane center said in its 4 a.m. Sunday update that the tropical storm has maximum sustained winds of 45 mph and remains stationary about 45 miles northwest of Victoria, Texas.

At least one person died due to the flooding, Houston Fire Department's Sheldra Brigham said. Paramedics found the individual in a vehicle just before 10 p.m. A doctor, a passerby who stopped to help, was already at the scene and pronounced the person dead. A second person was confirmed dead in a house fire as the hurricane came ashore Friday night. Aransas County Judge C.H. "Burt" Mills Jr. told the Austin American-Statesman that 12 to 14 other people were injured.
A family evacuates their Meyerland home in Houston, Sunday, Aug. 27, 2017. Rescuers answered hundreds of calls for help Sunday as floodwaters from the remnants of Hurricane Harvey rose high enough to begin filling second-story homes, and authorities urged stranded families to seek refuge on their rooftops. (Mark Mulligan/Houston Chronicle via AP) Expand / Collapse

A family evacuates their Meyerland home in Houston on Sunday. (AP)

Trump announced on Sunday he will be heading to Texas as soon as possible and praised emergency crews and government officials for search and rescue efforts.

"I will be going to Texas as soon as that trip can be made without causing disruption. The focus must be life and safety," Trump tweeted.

Trump said on Saturday he was "closely monitoring" the storm from Camp David.

I will be going to Texas as soon as that trip can be made without causing disruption. The focus must be life and safety.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 27, 2017

Abbott said Trump's response to the storm was "extremely professional, very helpful" and offered any resources the governor needed. He added it's still unclear what amount of money will be needed for storm damage repairs, but estimated to be "billions of dollars."

During the news conference Sunday, Abbott thanked a number of states for their help providing resources in Texas, including Nebraska, Tennessee, Utah, California, Missouri, Ohio, Arizona and New York.

The Coast Guard, which received more than 300 requests for help, deployed five helicopters and asked for additional aircraft from New Orleans.

Harvey arrived as the fiercest hurricane to hit the U.S. in 13 years and the strongest to strike Texas since 1961's Hurricane Carla, the most powerful Texas hurricane on record.

Fox News' Barnini Chakraborty and The Associated Press contributed to this report"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/27/harvey-causes-catastrophic-flooding-in-houston-shuts-down-airport.html
No. 118     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 2:45 PM     
No. 119     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 2:48 PM     
No. 120     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 3:15 PM     
"Harvey sends floodwaters into Texas nursing home, 15 seniors rescued"

"As Tropical Storm Harvey continued to pound southeastern Texas on Sunday with "catastrophic flooding," residents of a nursing home southeast of Houston had to be evacuated from waist-deep water.

Fifteen senior citizens were evacuated from the La Vita Bella nursing home in Dickinson, David Popoff, the city’s emergency management coordinator, told the Galveston County Daily News.

Popoff told the newspaper all 15 were rescued by helicopter.

La vita Bella nursing home in Dickinson Texas is almost underwater with nursing home patients pic.twitter.com/oCNkrgoRZY

— Timothy J. McIntosh (@DividendsMGR) August 27, 2017

“We were air-lifting grandmothers and grandfathers,” Popoff said.

A picture of the residents sitting in waist-deep water shared to Twitter Sunday went viral after it was posted by Timothy McIntosh, who told the newspaper his mother-in-law owns the assisted-living home.

His wife, Kimberly McIntosh, said her mother sent the picture at 9 a.m. this morning.

“She said it was a disaster and they were hoping the national guard would come,” Kimberly McInstosh said."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/27/harvey-sends-floodwaters-into-texas-nursing-home-15-seniors-rescued.html
No. 121     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 3:24 PM     
"Texas Governor: President Called and Said 'Whatever You Need, You've Got'

"Texas Governor Greg Abbott (R) expressed his gratitude to President Trump for his help in the wake of Hurricane Harvey's devastation in the Houston area.

Hurricane Harvey hit southeast Texas as a category 4 storm on Friday after Texans were encouraged to evacuate the area. President Trump declared the hurricane a major disaster even before it hit, ensuring resources were ready to go after the storm passed.

President Trump's response to the crisis has been "extremely professional, very helpful," the governor assured, adding that the two spoke on the phone several times.

"He called and said, 'Governor, whatever you need, you've got.'"

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/27/harvey-texas-governor-president-trump-called-whatever-you-need-youve-got
No. 122     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 3:43 PM     
Wouldn't that be something! :icon_eek:

"New Orleans braces for possible Harvey flooding amid pump failures"

"New Orleans, already bogged down by inches of rain from previous storms, braced for more flooding from Hurricane Harvey on Sunday as the city scrambles to repair its malfunctioning pump system.

Rain from Harvey, which downgraded to a tropical storm a day after making landfall as a Category 4 hurricane late Friday, threatens to dump up the 8 inches of rain starting Sunday. New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu said in an update on Saturday the city's contractors are working "around the clock" to repair all power and pumps."

"Yesterday, contractors completed repairs to another large drainage pump at Drainage Pump Station No. 6, which brings the total to four large pumps returned to service since August 6," the city said in an update.
Andrea Dube, right, and John Flemming fill sandbags as a precaution for the potential of more flooding from rain storms, in New Orleans, Friday, Aug. 11, 2017. With debris from last weekend's flash flood still piled up on sidewalks and their city under a state of emergency, New Orleans residents looked ahead warily on Friday to the prospect of more rain to tax the city's malfunctioning pump system. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert) Expand / Collapse

New Orleans residents fill more sandbags for potential more flooding from rain storms on Aug. 11. (AP)

Nearly 40 boats and 20 high-water vehicles with rescue supplies were scattered at various fire and police station in preparation. A mandatory evacuation was not put in place since the storm did not directly hit New Orleans, but residents were urged to prepare for a "shelter in place" if flooding worsens.

Mike Shields, a forecaster with the National Weather Service's Slidell office, told NOLA.com the storm seems to likely shift farther west than previously predicted, but New Orleans is still not completely clear of Harvey's path.

"It's looking much better than it was, but we're still not off the hook," Shields told the news site.

"The threat has decreased somewhat and shifted further west, but there is still some threat," he added.

The city's pump system failed after a storm dropped 9.4 inches of rain in three hours earlier this month. Pumping stations in two of the hardest-hit areas went down to half to two-thirds capacity. City officials and spokespeople then said repeatedly all 24 stations were working at full capacity.

Harvey wreaked havoc in southeastern Texas and caused "catastrophic flooding" in Houston as of Sunday. Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo said its 911 system was "overwhelmed" by the number of calls coming in.
FILE - This Saturday, Aug. 5, 2017, file photo shows the Circle Food Store engulfed in floodwaters in New Orleans. With more rain in the forecast and city water pumps malfunctioning after weekend floods, New Orleans' mayor is urging residents of some waterlogged neighborhoods to move their vehicles to higher ground. Mayor Mitch Landrieu's office said early Thursday, Aug. 10, 2017, the city has lost service to one of its power turbines, which powers most of the pumping stations service the East Bank of New Orleans. (Brett Duke/NOLA.com The Times-Picayune via AP, File) Expand / Collapse

Circle Food Store engulfed in floodwaters in New Orleans after a storm on Aug. 5. (AP)

President Trump announced on Twitter Sunday he will be making a trip down to Texas to access the damage.

"I will be going to Texas as soon as that trip can be made without causing disruption. The focus must be life and safety," Trump tweeted.

I will be going to Texas as soon as that trip can be made without causing disruption. The focus must be life and safety.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 27, 2017

He sent out an earlier tweet saying he was "closely monitoring" the storm from Camp David."


Circle Food Store engulfed in floodwaters in New Orleans after a storm on Aug. 5

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/27/new-orleans-braces-for-possible-harvey-flooding-amid-pump-failures.html
No. 123     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 6:23 PM     
A few days ago I predicted culverts and roads would washout.

Here is an example of what I was talking about.

This was shot today at 2pm by a Weather Channel Meterologist in Rosenberg, TX.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/watch-road-crumble-in-texas-flooding
No. 124     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 7:17 PM     
"Houston Mayor Defends Decision Not To Evacuate"

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/houston-mayor-defends-decision-not-to-evacuate

Some people are attempting to criticize the Mayor of Houston for not giving an evacuation order.

While the Governor of Texas was advising it might be a good idea to get out of Houston.

In reality, both of them are right.

It all depended on "when".

If a person was to leave early enough, days before Harvey's arrival in Houston for example before the rains hit, they would have done the right thing.

But the speed at which this Hurricane developed and went from practically nothing and then strengthened into a Cat4 Hurricane was unprecedented.

To give an evacuation order to leave the 4th largest city in the USA suddenly by 6.5 million people would have been disastrous. Roads would have been clogged for days without anyone even moving.

That scenario has happened before in Houston.

The results would have been a nightmare with thousands of cars trapped in the floodwaters, stalled vehicles, no gas, and just as many people possibly dying.

So actually, both of them were right, it all depended on the timing. After a certain point it would no longer be safe to evacuate and the better option is to shelter in place at home, at least until rescuers can get to you, which has a far higher height than your car, plus you have certain amenities there you might not have with you in your car if stranded.
No. 125     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 7:32 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

BF -- Devastating and heartbreaking for the families suffering. Praying for no more deaths and the water to recede (here we have heat warnings and threats of fire...truly there is nowhere that is completely safe against natural disasters).

TCG -- glad to hear you are okay. Not believing in conspiracy stuff myself. God bless.



Unfortunately there will be more deaths, lots of them, many by drowning.

There are still a few more days left of the unrelenting rain piling onto what is already there.

Roads will become impassable, people trapped in cars and homes, many will drown.

It will take weeks for floodwaters to recede, it took a month for the Fox River here to descend back down to a normal level below flood stage.

SAR Personnel, along with SAR & Cadaber dogs will be brought out and go house to house in search of any survivors as well as the dead. Many elderly will have perished.

The final body count will take many weeks and you will see it jump dramatically as the days pass by.

Disease will set in because of a sewage problem.

1200 FEMA Personnel have been sent to the Houston area to help deal with the Emergency Disaster there.

This is going to go down in history as one of the worst floods in modern times.
No. 126     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 9:12 PM     
Water is the Deadliest Factor in U.S. Hurricanes and Tropical Storms

By Jon Erdman
Jul 25 2017 07:00 PM EDT
weather.com

Story Highlights

"No, it's not wind that kills nearly most often in U.S. tropical cyclones.

Recent examples illustrate the deadly power of flooding from rainfall and storm surge.

A hurricane's intensity frequently doesn't correlate to its deadly potential.

Deaths from U.S. hurricanes, tropical storms and tropical depressions are more likely from water, not wind, despite how they're rated and classified, according to a study from the National Hurricane Center.

(MORE: Hurricane Central)

Seven of eight fatalities from tropical cyclones in the U.S. from 1963 through 2012 were from either storm surge, rainfall flooding, high surf, or occurred offshore within 50 nautical miles of the coast, the study by Dr. Ed Rappaport, deputy director of the National Hurricane Center, found.

Percent of U.S. tropical cyclone fatalities by cause from 1963 through 2012. (Data: Rappaport, 2014)

A tropical cyclone's winds or embedded tornadoes accounted for only 11 percent of fatalities in the U.S. during that time.

This may sound counterintuitive since Category 1, 2, 3 hurricanes are rated based on their maximum sustained winds.

(MORE: Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale)

Certainly a hurricane or even a strong tropical storm is capable of wind damage.

The intense eyewall winds of Category 5 Hurricane Andrew destroyed over 25,000 homes and damaged 101,000 more in Homestead and the south Miami suburbs in August 1992.

Despite that devastation, 26 deaths – 15 in South Florida – were directly attributed to Hurricane Andrew.

Of the 650 to 700 Atlantic tropical cyclones in the study's 50-year period, 2 to 3 systems were deadly in the U.S. each year, on average.
Storm Surge: The Deadliest Threat

Roughly half of all U.S. deaths from tropical cyclones are due to the storm surge, the rise in water levels from the tropical cyclone's winds piling water toward the coast just before and during landfall.

Storm surge is not simply a function of the maximum winds.

A U.S. military helicopter flies over destruction along Highway 90 in Biloxi, Mississippi, on Aug. 30, 2005 after Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast. (Nicholas Kamm/AFP/Getty Images)

Hurricane Ike was not a "major" (Category 3 or stronger) hurricane at landfall in Galveston, Texas in September 2008. Yet the size of Ike's wind field generated a 15-20 foot storm surge that wiped out most structures on the Bolivar Peninsula of Texas.

Well before the modern age of satellites, television, and instant communication, a storm surge of up to 15 feet, with battering waves, claimed most of the 8,000 to 12,000 lives lost in the Galveston, Texas 1900 hurricane, the nation's deadliest.

To more clearly communicate the threat from storm surge, the National Hurricane Center will prepare experimental storm surge inundation maps when a hurricane or tropical storm is near landfall.

These maps will identify how deep the storm surge inundation may be above ground level in a worst-case scenario based on the forecast track, intensity and wind field.

Before a hurricane threatens, find out if you live in an evacuation zone. Knowing this – and heeding evacuation orders from local emergency managers – could save your life and those of your family members.
Rainfall Flood Threat

Of all causes of death in U.S. tropical cyclones in the 50 years of the study, drowning from excessive rainfall occurred more often than from any other cause.

There are two reasons for this.

First, a tropical cyclone's rainfall potential does not depend on its wind intensity, but rather its forward speed. The slower it moves, the more rain it can produce. Therfore, heavy rain can occur in the lion's share of tropical cyclones.

Secondly, the Rappaport study noted areas of heavy rain in tropical cyclones can occur far from the storm's center, and well after the storm has fizzled as a tropical cyclone.

Hurricane Irene in 2011 may be one of the most forgotten U.S. landfalls, given Superstorm Sandy was just a year later.

There was surge flooding along the coast from the Outer Banks of North Carolina to southern New England, but this storm wasn't just a coastal danger.

In this Aug. 22, 2013 photo, an abandoned home still lies askew in Pittsfield, Vermont. (AP/Toby Talbot)

Irene's legacy was its epic inland rainfall flooding from parts of New York state into New England, particularly in Vermont, where almost 2,400 roads, 800 homes and businesses and 300 bridges were destroyed or damaged from the flooding.

Of the 41 total U.S. deaths attributed to Irene, 21 of those were from rainfall flooding.

Now consider a system that wasn't officially a depression anymore when it inflicted its havoc.

Tropical Storm Allison in June 2001 soaked the Houston metro area as it made landfall, then dropped a massive second delugewhen its remnants moved south back over the Texas coast a few days later. Up to 37 inches of rain swamped parts of America's fourth largest city.

This $9 billion tropical storm, the costliest tropical storm in U.S. history, claimed 41 lives in the U.S. Twenty-seven of those died from rainfall flooding.

Hurricane Agnes in 1972 was barely so at landfall, Category 1 at its Florida panhandle landfall. However, it's final move and subsequent stalling over the Northeast triggered massive flooding. Of the 122 U.S. deaths, 113 were due to rainfall flooding.

Did you know the infamous Hurricane Camille in 1969 also had a second deadly chapter in the Appalachians?

Flash floods and mudslides from 12 to 20 inches of rain claimed 113 lives in Virginia, almost as many as were killed from its Category 5 landfall.
The Deadliest Six

Approximately two-thirds of the deaths in the U.S. in the 50-year period of study were from six tropical cyclones.
Deadliest U.S. Tropical Cyclones (1963-2012)
Source: National Hurricane Center
(* = Sandy was a post-tropical cyclone at landfall in New Jersey) Katrina (2005) 1200
Camille (1969) 256
Agnes (1972) 122
Betsy (1965) 75
Sandy (2012)* 72
Floyd (1999) 56

With Katrina and Camille extreme examples, over half of the total U.S. tropical cyclone fatalities in the study occurred in either Louisiana or Mississippi.

The study noted even if the levee failure deaths from Katrina were removed, roughly 1 in 4 U.S. tropical cyclone deaths would still have been from Louisiana or Mississippi.

A resident emerges from his home and braves high winds and waist-deep water to assess the damage that Hurricane Betsy has done to his property, Miami Beach, Florida, September 13, 1965. (Hulton Archive/Getty Images)

By contrast, Rappaport found only roughly 5 percent of U.S. deaths in that time happened in Florida and Alabama, combined, despite experiencing 2 to 3 times the number of landfalls as Louisiana and Mississippi.

This was attributed to the surge-prone nature (shallow slope) of the northern Gulf Coast compared to, say, Florida's Atlantic coast.

Despite this, it's worth mentioning the two deadliest U.S. tropical cyclones of record – Galveston, Texas (1900, at least 8,000 killed) and Lake Okeechobee, Florida (1928, 2,500 killed), did not occur in Louisiana or Mississippi.

Interestingly, the storm's strength at landfall didn't necessarily correlate with death tolls. Only 3 of the 10 deadliest storms from 1963-2012 were "major" hurricanes at landfall, Category 3 or stronger.

Instead, the study found 6 of the 10 deadliest storms were either tropical storms or Category 1 hurricanes, due in part to the rainfall flooding threat discussed above.

The bottom line here is to respect the power of water in tropical cyclones. Don't become a statistic.

Jonathan Erdman is a senior meteorologist at weather.com and has been an incurable weather geek since a tornado narrowly missed his childhood home in Wisconsin at age 7. Follow him on Facebook and Twitter."

https://weather.com/safety/hurricane/news/us-deaths-hurricanes-tropical-storms-nhc-study
No. 127     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 9:21 PM     


As the above chart shows Storm Surge causes 49% of deaths during a Hurricane.

27% of deaths are from rainfall flooding.

Only 8% are caused by winds.
No. 128     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 10:16 PM     
more copy paste? Thats Not goin to make ya any money.

My phone is ringin off the hook...18 plus calls today.

they're all tellin me "#1" always kick ass" when it comes
to this flood property stuff. Had to remind them that i haven't
concentrated on this Game much lately;;;but I'm on it Now.
Still know all the players/lenders.


No. 129     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 10:46 PM     
and i'm gonna tell y'all hippys a thing or two;
i dont do anything on, nor do i use use google;
fakebook, bing or IE. It' all a bunch of payed in
advance corporate scripted garbage.
No. 130     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 11:17 PM     
"MORE DANGER ON THE WAY
Devastating Texas floods overwhelm rescuers, send residents to rooftops as forecast shows little relief"


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/27/harvey-causes-catastrophic-flooding-in-houston-shuts-down-airport.html

No. 131     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 27, 2017 at 11:34 PM     
Rev. Franklin Graham: Texas needs our prayers

Aug. 27, 2017 - 3:20 - Samaritan's Purse president says Americans need to pray for the victims of devastating storm Harvey

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5553731998001/?#sp=show-clips
No. 132     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 12:01 AM     
so are you goin ta buy anything?
I suspect yer just another BS'n Yankee tire kicker.
No. 133     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 1:36 AM     
LONE STAR STATE NOT ALONE
Harvey flooding ravages Texas as Gov. Abbott orders 1,000 more National Guard members to help


"Harvey sent devastating floods pouring into the nation’s fourth-largest city Sunday as rising water chased thousands of people to rooftops or higher ground and overwhelmed rescuers who could not keep up with the constant calls for help.

The dire situation prompted Gov. Greg Abbott to order another 1,000 National Guard members to Houston. Abbott said the state activated 3,000 National Guard and State Guard members as a result of the storm damage. He also said 500 vehicles and 14 aircraft had been put into service.

The National Weather Service tweeted early Monday that the region can expect dangerous flooding for parts of Texas and Louisiana. The agency said additional rainfall accumulations of 15 to 25 inches are expected across the upper Texas coast, with isolated storm totals as high as 50 inches.

Days of dangerous flooding potential ahead for parts of TX & LA. Keep up with forecasts. Listen to state/local emergency management. #Harvey pic.twitter.com/WyzkeqfN70
— NWS (@NWS) August 28, 2017

"This event is unprecedented and all impacts are unknown and beyond anything experienced. Follow orders from officials to ensure safety," the National Weather Service wrote on Twitter.

The storm has so far affected about a quarter of the Texas population, or 6.8 million people in 18 counties.

As of 10 p.m. local time, the National Hurricane Center reported that the storm still has sustained winds of up to 40 mph and is centered 20 miles east of Victoria, Texas, about 120 miles southwest of Houston. It continues to creep to the east-southeast at 3 m.p.h.

That means it remains virtually stalled near the coast and continues to drop heavy rain on the Houston and Galveston areas. In the past 48 hours, numerous spots in the region have measured more than 25 inches of rainfall.

The hurricane center says Harvey's center was expected to drift off the middle Texas coast on Monday and meander offshore through Tuesday before beginning "a slow northeastward motion."

Several hundred people arrived at the George R. Brown Convention Center in downtown Houston, which officials are using as a shelter as floodwaters have inundated much of the city. The center was also used as a shelter for Hurricane Katrina refugees in 2005.

Harris County Judge Ed Emmett asked that anyone who has a boat or a high water vehicle to help with rescue efforts in the Houston area.

"We desperately need boats and high water vehicles," Emmett said. "We can't wait for assets to come from outside."

#UPDATE: #Texas #NationalGuard rescues #Texans in flooded areas around #Houston. #Harvey #TMDHarvey @USNationalGuard #houstonflood pic.twitter.com/lSdPMmy3le
— Texas Military Dept (@TXMilitary) August 27, 2017

Flights from William P. Hobby and George Bush Intercontinental airports were halted due to standing water on the runways, according to Fox 26. Thousands of flights were canceled and travelers were left stranded in the area.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers plan to begin releasing water Monday morning from the Barker and Addicks Reservoirs to prevent uncontrollable flooding of downtown Houston and the Houston Ship Channel. The dams were built during the 1940s in response to a 1935 flood that inundated much of downtown Houston.

Col. Lars Zetterstrom said the water contained in the dams is "unparalleled in the dams' history," with waters rising about 4 inches per hour. A meteorologist for a Houston-area flood-control district is warning that thousands of residents could be affected by the release of water from a pair of flood-control reservoirs.

The White House confirmed Sunday that Trump will travel to Texas on Tuesday. Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said the White House is working to coordinate the logistics of his trip with state and local officials.

HISTORIC rainfall in Houston, and all over Texas. Floods are unprecedented, and more rain coming. Spirit of the people is incredible.Thanks!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 27, 2017

Houston Mayor Sylvester Turner is responding to an overwhelming number of corporate and citizen inquiries by establishing the Hurricane Harvey Relief Fund to accept tax-deductible flood relief donations.

Checks and money orders can be mailed to the Greater Houston Community Foundation, while online credit card donations can be made at www.ghcf.org. Online credit card donations will be assessed a small fee by the credit card companies. Donors have the option of increasing their credit card donations to cover this fee.

The evacuation of Houston's main public hospital hasn't begun yet because it is surrounded by waist-deep water as a result of Tropical Storm Harvey.

Bryan McLeod is a spokesman for Harris Health System. He said Sunday that minor flooding in the basement of Ben Taub Hospital and a busted sewer pipe forced officials to close the kitchen.

This is Buffalo Bayou at Waugh. If you're not from here it might be hard to tell but the water is up significantly. @Fox26Houston #Harvey pic.twitter.com/as4eNYoIAf
— Lindsey Henry (@LindseyFOX26) August 28, 2017

McLeod says the flooding resulted in only a small amount of water in the basement and did not affect the hospital's power supply. But shutting down the kitchen leaves the hospital with a limited supply of dry food for patients.

McLeod says the evacuations won't start until the water recedes from around the facility and will likely take several days. The hospital is part of the Texas Medical Center, and has 350 patients."

Fox News' Barnini Chakraborty and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/28/harvey-flooding-ravages-texas-as-abbott-orders-another-1000-national-guards.html



No. 134     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 2:21 AM     
Sam Speights' desperate effort to stay alive during Harvey
By FRANK BAJAK
Published August 27, 2017
Associated Press



"ROCKPORT, Texas – Sam Speights takes medication for extreme anxiety and panic attacks.

But there's no pill for a hurricane — especially when he ventured into it at the height of its fury.

"You don't see the flying debris until it's right in front of you," said Speights. "You can't see it coming."

Emergency officials coordinating triage in the coastal city of Rockport, where Hurricane Harvey barreled into Texas, said they considered it almost miraculous that as of Sunday there was only one confirmed death from the area where the storm made landfall. Two deaths have been confirmed in the state.

Speights easily could have been a victim.

Unable to get a relative or friend to come and pick him up or to find a ride out — Speights doesn't have a car — he hunkered down with his six dogs, a husky and five rat terriers, in his three-bedroom lime green trailer.

His wife and 15-year-old son had fled along with nearly everyone else on Ruby Allen Street, a line of trailer homes on a 10-foot rise three miles from the Gulf of Mexico.

The wiry 37-year-old with gold-capped teeth and deck-of-cards suits tattooed on his fingers made it through the storm's first lashing Friday night. His world exploded, after the calm of the storm's eye passed, in the fury of swirling, sustained 130 mph winds.

People who rode out Harvey in devastated Rockport, where emergency management spokesman Bill Terry estimated Sunday it would be three to four weeks before essential services could be restored, described how their houses felt like they were breathing.

Speights' trailer was absolutely panting.

First the tin canopy tore off over the living room. Then the ceiling peeled up in his son's room.

"I was sitting on my couch and it bounced up and down twice. That's when I decided it was time to get out."

He put the rat terriers — Tex, Rocky, Buck, Angel and Itty Bitty — in a room and looked out toward the street. "I said, 'Oh God, I'm going to die.'"

He grabbed his husky, Nanook, and headed outside. The drainage ditch roiled with water. The storm surge was about 5 feet and had nearly filled it.

"I almost drowned in that creek," said Speights, whose only light was his cellphone's flashlight. "I was worried about a big wave coming and dragging me out to sea."

He could barely see. Something hit him in his right shoulder, he recalled, rubbing it as he stood next to his neighbor's toppled mobile home, its steel base twisted. Nearly every mobile home on the block was tossed, flattened or pierced and vacuumed by Harvey.

The wind was absolute confusion.

"It was coming from every direction. It was circling around. It was hard to determine, to be honest."

First, Speights made for an open green corrugated steel vehicle shed and sheltered there until it started crumpling. Then he ran past another three houses to a concrete bunker-like structure his landlord had heavily reinforced with rebar. It was locked.

Next to it stood his landlord's pickup.

"I grabbed the door handle," he said. "Thank God it was unlocked."

"I got in there, locked all the doors, pushed down the emergency brake and rode it out until about 4:30 (in the morning."

That's when the carport ceiling began to curl. The pickup was vibrating, debris crashing along its sides. Tree limbs flew. He feared the truck's window would explode.

"I didn't want my head to get torn off," said Speights.

Scores of vehicle windows in Rockport — a city of 10,000 — shattered in the storm, including police cruisers parked downtown.

Speights jumped out and made for the concrete-block house adjacent.

"I just snuck into the back window and jumped in. That thing is solid."

He and Nanook, still at his side, were finally safe.

But Speights has lost everything he owns.

He bicycled three miles to the emergency management center in Rockport's center Sunday, where he was given emergency food rations and a cooking kit. He has no insurance. His wife works as a waitress and he, a former telephone sales representative, hasn't worked for about a decade.

Two Border Patrol agents, who along with state troopers, National Guard soldiers and others are assisting in recovery efforts, came by Speights' trailer Sunday afternoon to check on him and tell him authorities had a welfare check for him.

Of course there's no place open to cash it, no power, running water and other essential services.

"We're just a low-income family and this hurts," he said after they left, holding back a sob that later came when he squatted in his puddled backyard, surveying the roofless, wall-less back of his trailer, his rat terriers heaping on affection.

Speights spent Saturday night on his rain-sodden couch.

"It's disgusting. I wrapped it in plastic so I could sleep on it. I woke up smelling like mold."

He'd called his father in Austin but wasn't sure he'd be able to come get him.

Where did he and the dogs plan to sleep Sunday night?

"I don't have a clue."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/27/sam-speights-desperate-effort-to-stay-alive-during-harvey.html
No. 135     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 3:03 AM     
Flood safety tips from FEMA including printable and downloadable .pdf's, etc.

(Resources towards end of page).

https://www.ready.gov/floods

No. 136     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 3:14 AM     
Official FEMA web page pertaining to Harvey, including applying for disaster assistance, etc.

https://www.fema.gov/hurricane-harvey?utm_source=hp_promo&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=disaster
No. 137     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 9:04 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:



As the above chart shows Storm Surge causes 49% of deaths during a Hurricane.

27% of deaths are from rainfall flooding.

Only 8% are caused by winds.


This is good information to know for preparedness. Thanks BF for reporting all this. Prayers continuing.

No. 138     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 9:47 AM     
And Crayons you are too young to have served in NAM. My Dad served in that era and had attacks by hippies that were unwarranted. You do not here. You 'finally' have a liberal in the political forums now to keep you awake and waste your time on those on your own team...

Yet...I am glad you are posting and to know you are safe and were not affected by Harvey!

No. 139     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 2:06 PM     
All 12,000 TX National Guard members have now been activated, the entire State.

No. 140     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 2:19 PM     
Fire Ant colony spotted floating on the floodwaters.

Fire Ants activate a survival defense mechanism during floods.

They simply attach themselves to each other and form a large floating mass until they reach dry land.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2017/08/28/island-fire-ants-spotted-on-houston-floodwaters.html
No. 141     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 2:28 PM     
"Animal Rescue Groups Save Abandoned Pets in Texas Floods"

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/28/animal-rescue-groups-save-abandoned-pets-texas-floods
No. 142     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 2:41 PM     
"15 States send Search & Rescue Teams to TX"

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5554940330001/?#sp=show-clips
No. 143     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 2:42 PM     
hey "CA" Have Never said i was in ''as you say "NAM"
Passed All my Maff tests...folks be jealous((grin))
we need 10 more hippys around here at night; ya know it?
No. 144     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 2:56 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

And Crayons you are too young to have served in NAM. My Dad served in that era and had attacks by hippies that were unwarranted. You do not here. You 'finally' have a liberal in the political forums now to keep you awake and waste your time on those on your own team...

Yet...I am glad you are posting and to know you are safe and were not affected by Harvey!

.

Crayons is definitely not too young to have served in NAM.
No. 145     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 3:26 PM     
No. 146     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 3:30 PM     
Survivor698 wrote

Crayons is definitely not too young to have served in NAM.


On second thought, he is maybe right on the borderline. He is a year or two younger than I.

They got 2 away from my draft number. Figuring I would be drafted soon anyway, in an effort to be ahead of the game and maybe have some choice in what I would do, in the summer of 72 I found myself sitting in recruiter offices. I was hoping to become a fighter jet pilot. But at that time, my vision did not meet minimum requirements without corrective lens. I declined all the other so called opportunities they had for me, and started college that fall. Viet Nam is where they had me destined in those opportunities.

A few months later I was informed I did meet vision requirements for copters, but my interests in pursuing such adventures had changed by that time. I was attending U of M fulltime, had started a promising corporate career, taking private pilot lessons, and there was girls .

A couple years later I was informed my vision met revised requirements qualifying me for any type of military pilot position, but by that time I had my private pilot certificate, was piloting high performance aircraft anyway, jumping out of planes, and had simply lost interest in pursuing such "macho" ambitions via a military career. Although such military and government opportunities were revisited down the road. There did remain a somewhat "silent" ambition to serve.

Americans did not officially all leave Viet Nam until 1975. It was a 20 year war period.
No. 147     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 5:13 PM     
Tropical Storm Harvey Brings Flood, Tornado Threats to Louisiana, Including Baton Rouge, Lake Charles and New Orleans

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-harvey-louisiana-forecast-new-orleans-baton-rouge-lake-charles
No. 148     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 5:23 PM     
Projected path of Harvey for this week...

No. 149     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 7:01 PM     
I'm in gonzales, la which is in between new orleans and baton rouge. 20 min away from baton rouge. As far as i can see im getting 2 to 4 inches which sounds like nothing to me lol. That is assuming it stays on track they think and doesn't stay in water too long to become a worse storm. Eeverything really depends on if they track it right. For now im just waiting for the 10 pm update on my local news and in the morning as well because things have a way of changing and I want to stay updated. We have a canal on my street that runs into the mississippi river and so my road floods over the smallest amount of rain. that canal is already overflowing out here and we have only had a small amount of rain. If it rains alittle more my neighbor will be floating around in his boat in his yard. He's funny, he does this everytime he floods and waves at us and everyone as they drive by. lol. His yard has already party flooded becuase the canal has over ran into his yard.
No. 150     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 7:12 PM     
crayons wrote:

more copy paste? Thats Not goin to make ya any money.

My phone is ringin off the hook...18 plus calls today.

they're all tellin me "#1" always kick ass" when it comes
to this flood property stuff. Had to remind them that i haven't
concentrated on this Game much lately;;;but I'm on it Now.
Still know all the players/lenders.





Myself, getting lots of orders right now for portable battery chargers/jump starters. Orders started last week and came in heavy all weekend. When ever a disaster like this hits, my sales of such items and other survival gear increase. I cannot keep up with requests for my custom portable solar generators. I was not ready for that, but keeping up with the demand for all else thus far.
No. 151     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 7:56 PM     
actually i've always been into real estate;
just found a flipper lender for an old contact today...
always snoopin around down there for high end
motorized vehicles, but for the past month it's been nothing
but interstate fraud scammers who are still out in full force.

but it looks like the toilet got flushed this time and there'll be some decent auctions...
most all of matagorda,jackson,brazoria are just libtard
dopers and that area/nest needed to be flushed...that whole area except
for san patricio n' nueces are blue counties. by the way, i was given the opportunity
to take the USCG test's and passed,so i did a few fishin expeditions back then.
No. 152     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 8:23 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

I'm in gonzales, la which is in between new orleans and baton rouge. 20 min away from baton rouge. As far as i can see im getting 2 to 4 inches which sounds like nothing to me lol. That is assuming it stays on track they think and doesn't stay in water too long to become a worse storm. Eeverything really depends on if they track it right. For now im just waiting for the 10 pm update on my local news and in the morning as well because things have a way of changing and I want to stay updated. We have a canal on my street that runs into the mississippi river and so my road floods over the smallest amount of rain. that canal is already overflowing out here and we have only had a small amount of rain. If it rains alittle more my neighbor will be floating around in his boat in his yard. He's funny, he does this everytime he floods and waves at us and everyone as they drive by. lol. His yard has already party flooded becuase the canal has over ran into his yard.


Hoping you remain safe. Your neighbor sounds like he makes the best of a bad situation (you have to respect people who remain calm under pressure)!




No. 153     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 9:00 PM     
Thanks casandie. So far im under flash flood watch and tornado watch. But its not raining here yet but the rain for me is suppose to start later tonight and continue for 3 days. The rain doesn't bother me, what does is the snakes that come out of that canal during the flood, its already flooding over some which is why my neighbors yard is half flooded. his house runs right beside the canal. Im a few houses down.
No. 154     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 10:34 PM     
"Family of 6 feared drowned while trying to escape Harvey, reports say"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/28/family-6-feared-drowned-while-trying-to-escape-harvey-reports-say.html
No. 155     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 10:40 PM     
MEGASTORM EYES LOUISIANA
State fears floods as waterlogged Texas prepares for more feet of rain


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/28/harvey-flood-fears-expand-to-louisiana-as-texas-braces-for-more-feet-rain.html

No. 156     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 11:00 PM     
guess ol' bull rider is just another lefty
"copy paste faux/fox news"""tire kicker""

try watchin OANN, it's what i leave on
in the office fer customers. n' i dont even
watch TV...
No. 157     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 11:02 PM     
I don't blame them for staying either. For those with a 2nd story on their home staying could be a better option than being jammed into some huge public place as an evacuee. And frees up more space and resources for those who more seriously need it.

As long as the current isn't strong and no danger of any force of sweeping the house away, and no wind danger, and you have stockpiled plenty of water and food, staying behind is an option.

Here is a prime example of where water filters, Lifestraws, etc would be a necessity.

For those with only a 1 story home however, they'd likely be better off evacuating.

"Houston residents conduct rescues by boat -- but some don't want to leave their homes"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/28/houston-residents-conduct-rescues-by-boat-but-some-dont-want-to-leave.html
No. 158     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 11:13 PM     
"Joel Osteen's church staff rescued from Texas floods as critics blast lack of outreach"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/28/joel-osteens-church-staff-rescued-from-texas-floods-as-critics-blast-lack-outreach.html
No. 159     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 11:17 PM     
"Bush family says their 'hearts are in Houston'; announce aid donations"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/28/bush-family-says-their-hearts-are-in-houston-announce-aid-donations.html
No. 160     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 11:25 PM     
People traversing through floodwaters down there not only have Poisonous snakes and floating piles of thousands of fire ants to be on the lookout for but Alligators as well.

"Texas woman records alligators swimming in flooded backyard"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/28/texas-woman-records-alligators-swimming-in-flooded-backyard.html
No. 161     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 11:31 PM     
"Trump vows ‘100 percent’ support, rapid federal aid to Harvey victims ahead of Texas visit"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/28/trump-vows-100-percent-support-rapid-federal-aid-to-harvey-victims-ahead-texas-visit.html
No. 162     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 11:36 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Thanks casandie. So far im under flash flood watch and tornado watch. But its not raining here yet but the rain for me is suppose to start later tonight and continue for 3 days. The rain doesn't bother me, what does is the snakes that come out of that canal during the flood, its already flooding over some which is why my neighbors yard is half flooded. his house runs right beside the canal. Im a few houses down.


Do you live on a 1st or 2nd story floor?
No. 163     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 11:49 PM     
so according to Faux/Fox news the Trumpy is gonna
give 100% aid to all the doper democrat losers?

Ye-ah; good luck with that! we've been tryin to run
those idiots off for decades!
No. 164     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 11:53 PM     
No. 165     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 28, 2017 at 11:58 PM     
No. 166     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:03 AM     
A Marina in Corpus Christi, TX.

No. 167     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:06 AM     
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:09 AM     
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:12 AM     
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:16 AM     
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By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:23 AM     
No. 172     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:25 AM     
No. 173     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:35 AM     
Flood refugees waiting to be checked in by Police at the Georg R. Brown Convention Center. Yep, your weapons will be seized, temporarily anyway.

No. 174     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 AM     
No. 175     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:41 AM     
No. 176     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:44 AM     
No. 177     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:46 AM     

Demetria Fair holds a towel over her four-day-old daughter Dakota Fair, as they are rescued by boat by members of the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries and the Houston Fire Department during flooding from Tropical Storm Harvey in Houston, Monday, Aug. 28, 2017. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert
No. 178     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:53 AM     
bullshyyter appears to be a typical brainwashed
libtard...he feels sorry for the unemployed welfare idiots.
and we'll have to pay as they wind up in a FEMA camp where they belong.

we know what they look like and what those unemployed morons cost us.
it's a shame the media wont show us the MS13, Gulf cartel doper idiots
that we had to waste State of Texas Dollars On...go to
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/if ya want see reality.





No. 179     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:53 AM     

Vinh Nguyen rests his daughter Kailie, 18 months, as he hops over a highway divider after being rescued in boats by the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries, during flooding from Tropical Storm Harvey, which hit Texas last week as a Category 4 hurricane in Houston, Monday, Aug. 28, 2017. (AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
No. 180     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:58 AM     

Volunteers bring 96-year-old Art Kolten ashore after evacuating him out of his home, as floodwaters from Tropical Storm Harvey rise, Monday, Aug. 28, 2017, in Houston. (Mark Mulligan/Houston Chronicle via AP)
No. 181     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 1:27 AM     
30 to 60 people/doper democrats a week killed in
bullshyyters own town and now he wants to post pictures
of fat illegal alien democrat retards that we've had to support?
Go Home Yankees! I can see people comin unglued or startin a war over this;
many are tired and only want to take care of our own, not Yankee doper morons.Yankee democrat dopers want everything for free on our dime.

fortunately all the doper democrats property will be going on the auction block soon; we've been waitin for decades for this to come to fruition.
No. 182     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 1:55 AM     
crapola wrote:

bullshyyter appears to be a typical brainwashed
libtard...


"Appears" would be the key word there.

And not everything is as it appears to be.

feels sorry for the unemployed welfare idiots.


Is it their fault they are being flooded out?

Is everyone in Houston on welfare?

I dealt firsthand with multi-generational welfare leeches as an apartment building manager and have had my fair share of dealing with and suffering at their hands with them in the security industry as well and know what they are about firsthand.

I often hated it, and having to deal with their garbage everyday.

That doesn't mean we should just ignore or abandon them when a natural disaster strikes forcing them out of their home or where they live.

To do so makes you no better or different than a Nazi.

Are you a Nazi?

You have stated you were once a police officer.

What is that infamous motto? "To serve and protect"...

Had you been working as a Police Officer down there or in the National Guard you would have to help rescue those same people whether you liked it or not.

Because it would have been your duty.

I'm seeing an awful lot of nice looking wealthy upper middle class houses being flooded out.

Is everyone in Houston unemployed?

Would it also be your fault if a Twister came and destroyed your home and or business?

and we'll have to pay as they wind up in a FEMA camp where they belong.


That's right you have to pay your Taxes, Jesus commanded you to, because it is the right thing to do...

we know what they look like and what those unemployed morons cost us.


Not all the flood victims are unemployed black and Hispanics on welfare.
No. 183     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 2:03 AM     
crapola wrote:

30 to 60 people/doper democrats a week killed in
bullshyyters own town and now he wants to post pictures
of fat illegal alien democrat retards that we've had to support?
Go Home Yankees! I can see people comin unglued or startin a war over this;
many are tired and only want to take care of our own, not Yankee doper morons.Yankee democrat dopers want everything for free on our dime.

fortunately all the doper democrats property will be going on the auction block soon; we've been waitin for decades for this to come to fruition.


I don't live in Chicago, and never will.

Again not everyone in Houston is a fat, lazy, illegal alien democrat on welfare.

If you think that is the case you simply haven't a clue.

There are Republicans and Independents in Houston also.

And those who work everyday for a living, hold a job, contribute to society, you know, fine upstanding people and productive members of society.

And all you can think about is satisfying your covetous lust for $.

That says and shows us more about your heart condition than theirs!
No. 184     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 2:14 AM     
No. 185     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 2:23 AM     

TX Firefighter helps a Woman and her Daughters aboard a TX Air National Guard C-130 in Galveston, TX
No. 186     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 2:36 AM     


An elderly woman preparing to board a TX Air National Guard C-130 at Scholes International Airport in Galveston, TX.
No. 187     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 2:48 AM     


Someone set up 2 Tents on top of their roof in Dickinson, TX in preparation for the oncoming floodwaters which were about to rise.
No. 188     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 2:53 AM     
Note the person in a wheelchair being pushed down the street.

No. 189     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 3:20 AM     
Harvey relief donations overwhelm at Dallas drop-off center
Published August 29, 2017
Fox News

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"Lack of basic resources a concern for Galveston residents

Donation sites in Dallas are so overwhelmed with items provided by the public for Hurricane Harvey relief that they need to quickly find a warehouse to store the overflow.

Trusted World, a donation management group that has set up shop on Dallas Parkway has seen cars line up along the road, waiting up to 30 minutes to drop off items for relief efforts in south Texas according to WFAA.com.

"I know what it's like to lose everything,” Sanja Bogdanovic, a former refugee from Bosnia, who was waiting to donate, told the news station. “We asked what they needed, they said diapers and formula, so we came out.”

The collection site has been operating like a well-oiled machine. Dozens of volunteers have been working at the location since Saturday, carefully separating items into their respective piles for transport to Houston and other areas hit by Harvey.

"We're just gonna keep sending stuff to the shelters but only what they need," said Trusted World CEO Michael Garrett.

Garrett has added that the items are quickly piling up and that the modest volunteer organization needs a larger facility to store the donations. Despite the lack of storage, Trusted World is still accepting any and all donations.

Even those from the area hit hardest have come to volunteer with Trusted World.

"It's heartbreaking even seeing that on TV not knowing what to come home to. It's tough, it's really tough. I'm trying to keep it all in," Dominque Furuta, a Houston resident who fled for Dallas on Friday and was volunteering at the donation center, told WFAA.

“You cannot know a single person down south and still feel compelled to be at a donation site because what hurts one of us...hurts all of us.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/harvey-relief-donations-overwhelm-at-dallas-drop-off-center.html
No. 190     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 3:27 AM     
People who would take advantage of others during a time like this are the very worst leeches upon society there are...

Houston combating Harvey looters with mandatory jail time

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/houston-combating-harvey-looters-with-mandatory-jail-time.html
No. 191     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 3:35 AM     
I was just thinking the other day, "Gee, Bass Pro should donate some Bass boats for this Houston disaster".

Looks like they just did!

Houston area to get rescue boats from Bass Pro Shops
Published August 29, 2017
Fox News

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How the American Red Cross is handling the Texas catastrophe

"Bass Pro Shops is pitching in with Hurricane Harvey relief efforts in Texas, providing dozens of boats to rescue and relief efforts.

The outdoor retail giant is coordinating with local, state and federal agencies, which includes police, fire and rescue teams on the ground, according to a news release. They will be providing over 80 Tracker boats to area government agencies and rescue organizations in Houston and surrounding communities that were impacted by Hurricane Harvey.

The company is supporting the efforts through its Bass Pro Cares Fund and are supporting disaster response organizations by donating relief supplies totaling $40,000.

The contributions support Convoy of Hope, a Springfield, Missouri-based humanitarian organization, and the American Red Cross.

Donated supplies include protein-rich foods like Uncle Buck’s Premium Jerky and peanuts for those in the field.

Bass Pro Shops has also suggested to their customers that they donate if they can.

“The company remains in close contact with the governor’s office, first responders and associates on the ground to monitor response efforts and assess ongoing needs,” reads the release. “Bass Pro Shops encourages all customers and community members who want to support relief efforts to donate directly to the American Red Cross."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/houston-area-to-get-rescue-boats-from-bass-pro-shops.html
No. 192     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 4:04 AM     
Wouldn't surprise me if he gets fired for making this comment.

Florida professor suggests Texans deserve Harvey for supporting Trump

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/28/florida-professor-suggests-texans-deserve-harvey-for-supporting-trump.html
No. 193     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 4:11 AM     
Water Gushes From Dam Near Houston

Authorities release a huge amount of water at a dam at Lake Conroe north of Houston.

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/water-gushes-from-dam-near-houston
No. 194     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 9:02 AM     
ya know assuming this harvey was man made and controlled by man, which it bigtime seems to be, it makes ya wonder why God didn't stop it. Makes me believe it was part of God's will from the beginning of time. But I believe every thing that goes on in this world was already planned for this earth from the beginning of its creation to end of the world. If all that goes on in this world wasnt part of God's plan from the beginning to the end, why else would God not stop all the bad stuff.
No. 195     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 9:43 AM     
When it's all said and done it will likely be in the hundreds. They will be finding people who drowned in their attics.

Tropical Storm Harvey: 'I'm Really Worried about How Many Bodies We're Going to Find'
Aug 29 2017 08:30 AM EDT
weather.com

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/harvey-hurricane-tropical-storm-houston-texas-flooding-impacts
No. 196     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 10:02 AM     
WATER RISING IN TEXAS, LOUISIANA UP NEXT

Tropical Storm Harvey Brings Flood, Tornado Threats to Louisiana, Including Baton Rouge, Lake Charles and New Orleans


https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-harvey-louisiana-forecast-new-orleans-baton-rouge-lake-charles
No. 197     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 10:14 AM     
CAsandie wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

I'm in gonzales, la which is in between new orleans and baton rouge. 20 min away from baton rouge. As far as i can see im getting 2 to 4 inches which sounds like nothing to me lol. That is assuming it stays on track they think and doesn't stay in water too long to become a worse storm. Eeverything really depends on if they track it right. For now im just waiting for the 10 pm update on my local news and in the morning as well because things have a way of changing and I want to stay updated. We have a canal on my street that runs into the mississippi river and so my road floods over the smallest amount of rain. that canal is already overflowing out here and we have only had a small amount of rain. If it rains alittle more my neighbor will be floating around in his boat in his yard. He's funny, he does this everytime he floods and waves at us and everyone as they drive by. lol. His yard has already party flooded becuase the canal has over ran into his yard.


Hoping you remain safe. Your neighbor sounds like he makes the best of a bad situation (you have to respect people who remain calm under pressure)!



During last month's flood in town near work 2 kids were out paddling in all their neighbor's backyards going from lot to lot, lol.

We did the same thing when we got flooded in the town I lived in as a kid.

Our basement was totally flooded.

There was about 1 foot of water in the middle of the street and 3' deep in some spots.

We simply blew up our inflatable raft and were rowing right down the middle of the street, lol. We thought it was the coolest thing!

That was the worst flooding I personally have ever experienced.
No. 198     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 10:44 AM     
'GET OUT NOW' TEXAS LEVEE BREACHED

Texas Neighborhoods in Danger; Floodwaters Spilling Over Reservoirs

Chaos as catastrophe worsens

2 Houston Reservoirs Now Overflowing; Officials Say Some Homes Will Be Inundated For Up to a Month


https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/harvey-hurricane-tropical-storm-houston-texas-flooding-impacts



No. 199     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 11:11 AM     
This is a good read. It shows what it is like to experience being flooded out in your home.

In the end it was Facebook, a Rabbi, and some local volunteers with boats who saved them.

Even though he had called the Fire Department for help, they were not able to help. This is a prime example that during a major disaster the local Police or Fire Department may not be able to help you.

You are often on your own!

My Family Rode Out Harvey Until Water Poured Through Walls

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/my-family-rode-out-harvey-until-water-poured-through-walls

No. 200     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 11:29 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

ya know assuming this harvey was man made and controlled by man, which it bigtime seems to be, it makes ya wonder why God didn't stop it. Makes me believe it was part of God's will from the beginning of time. But I believe every thing that goes on in this world was already planned for this earth from the beginning of its creation to end of the world. If all that goes on in this world wasnt part of God's plan from the beginning to the end, why else would God not stop all the bad stuff.


"The prudent sees danger and hides himself,
but the simple go on and suffer for it."
~ Proverbs 22:3


I knew DAYS before this hit that it would be a DISASTER! Partly due to the Holy Spirit, partly due to prior experience with flooding, and partly due to a fair amount of Emergency Management training i've had through FEMA and various other organizations.

If I lived down there I would have hi-tailed it outta there as a result. ESPECIALLY if I had a Family and kids!

I probably would have just gone on a long term camping trip somewhere hundreds of miles away.

Go back and read some of my original posts such as #'s 0, 3, 5, and 8!
No. 201     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM     
One of the first sites I worked at in the security industry was at a Hydroelectric Power Plant for a few years.

Although the Plant did have 2 Generators totaling 14.4 Megawatts it's primary function was that of flood control for the entire Chicagoland Metropolitan area.

It is owned and operated by the MWRD, a regional Waterway Agency covering the entire Northeastern area of IL for Chicago and the surrounding suburbs.

This agency is so big they actually have their own Police Department to patrol and protect the many miles of property and infrastructure they own.

You can actually tour the place (by appointment only) and it is now on the US National Register Of Historic Places by the US National Park Service.

Their primary function is Flood control for that whole area.

I worked at about a half dozen of their other sites also off and on. One being a Flood control reservoir with a small dam and pumphouse, and another a large regional sewage treatment plant they owned, as well as 2 former chemical depots along the Chicago Sanitary & Ship Canal.

Anyway at the Hydroelectric Power Plant I worked at we had a 1" thick emergency action disaster plan drawn up by them that I had to know and memorize and all the various State and Federal Agencies I had to call in the event of a disaster there. And there were a ton of them, lol.

Basically it dealt with if the Dam or Levee were to breech they said it would inundate (flood) the entire northern half of Joliet, IL.

I was told the Levee DID in fact breech a few times making the road into the plant on top of it impassable.

But they were able to plug it in time before it washed away any large sections of the Levee.
No. 202     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 1:49 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

"Houston Mayor Defends Decision Not To Evacuate"

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/houston-mayor-defends-decision-not-to-evacuate

Some people are attempting to criticize the Mayor of Houston for not giving an evacuation order.

While the Governor of Texas was advising it might be a good idea to get out of Houston.

In reality, both of them are right.

It all depended on "when".

If a person was to leave early enough, days before Harvey's arrival in Houston for example before the rains hit, they would have done the right thing.

But the speed at which this Hurricane developed and went from practically nothing and then strengthened into a Cat4 Hurricane was unprecedented.

To give an evacuation order to leave the 4th largest city in the USA suddenly by 6.5 million people would have been disastrous. Roads would have been clogged for days without anyone even moving.

That scenario has happened before in Houston.

The results would have been a nightmare with thousands of cars trapped in the floodwaters, stalled vehicles, no gas, and just as many people possibly dying.

So actually, both of them were right, it all depended on the timing. After a certain point it would no longer be safe to evacuate and the better option is to shelter in place at home, at least until rescuers can get to you, which has a far higher height than your car, plus you have certain amenities there you might not have with you in your car if stranded.


I am hearing on radio news this AM that the decision to not evacuate Houston likely saved thousands of lives. But on the other hand, such appears to be an after thought. They admit weather predictions did not indicate that Houston would get hit as it did, thus also supporting the decision to not evacuate.
No. 203     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 2:01 PM     
wow I havent had much rain at all, its been on and off and more off than on where i live and they let schools out here early today which blew me away when son came in the door this morning, due to flooding and of course its out tomorrow too. I thought what flooding and I was surprised to see pics of my area flooding that my daughters friend sent to her phone. so I went to take a drive to look and yes there is flooding everywhere just not at my house yet. They have one of the lanes on hwy 44 blocked off due to it flooding. I didnt know all thise was happening here due to my yard not flooded and lack of real rain. So im wondering wherew all the water is coming from. HOwever its now raining
No. 204     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 2:18 PM     
ok tornado spotted im now under a tornado warning.
No. 205     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 2:27 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

wow I havent had much rain at all, its been on and off and more off than on where i live and they let schools out here early today which blew me away when son came in the door this morning, due to flooding and of course its out tomorrow too. I thought what flooding and I was surprised to see pics of my area flooding that my daughters friend sent to her phone. so I went to take a drive to look and yes there is flooding everywhere just not at my house yet. They have one of the lanes on hwy 44 blocked off due to it flooding. I didnt know all thise was happening here due to my yard not flooded and lack of real rain. So im wondering wherew all the water is coming from. HOwever its now raining


Pay attention to local news, Police & Fire channels on the scanner, local Facebook and Twitter groups, etc. during times like this to stay abreast of what is happening locally.

Flash flooding out west can come from miles away. A person could be out in the hot desert with NO clouds in sight when suddenly they are swept away in a flash flood which came down from some rain on Mountains dozens of miles away.

I have seen videos of this and it is quite shocking!

One year here at home I was surprised one day when driving to work they had the bridge closed off completely due to some flooding from the creek below which overran it's banks and flooded the bridge out.

That creek is only a couple blocks north of where I live. It "could" reach here in the event of some rare disaster like the current Houston event.

At the Automobile facility I worked at for 14 years the main entrance to our RR yard was shut down more than a few times due to flooding making the road impassable. It got about 4' deep there.

When that happened I had to get into work by driving in through a rear dirt road at the other end of our half mile long facility.

Our lot on the south side of the tracks which held 4,000 automobiles had a retention pond next to it that would flood sometimes.

A few times the water started creeping up onto the road near our Guardhouse, we had to watch it throughout the night and make phone calls if it reached a certain point.
No. 206     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 2:35 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

ok tornado spotted im now under a tornado warning.


Double whammies! Flooding and Tornadoes ouch!
No. 207     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 2:50 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Wouldn't surprise me if he gets fired for making this comment.

Florida professor suggests Texans deserve Harvey for supporting Trump

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/28/florida-professor-suggests-texans-deserve-harvey-for-supporting-trump.html


Well I was right, today he got fired. That's one less liberal college propagandist who cannot brainwash kids!

Florida professor who tweeted Texans deserved Harvey for supporting Trump is relieved of teaching duties

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/florida-professor-who-tweeted-texans-deserved-harvey-for-supporting-trump-is-relieved-teaching-duties.html

No. 208     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 3:19 PM     
And the professor got what he deserved.....fired.
No. 209     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 3:22 PM     
Trump surveys Harvey damage, calls for recovery ‘better than ever before’

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/29/trump-surveys-harvey-damage-calls-for-recovery-better-than-ever-before.html
No. 210     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 3:32 PM     
Harvey pounds Louisiana with heavy rain, triggering flash flood warning

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/harvey-pounds-louisiana-with-heavy-rain-triggering-flash-flood-warning.html
No. 211     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 3:43 PM     
It's only rated to hold 5,000. Now there are 9,000 there.

Houston shelters filling with Harvey evacuees, convention center holding over 9,000 people

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/houston-shelters-filling-with-harvey-evacuees-convention-center-holding-over-9000-people.html
No. 212     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 3:49 PM     
He died while driving in to work on Sunday when he drove into some floodwaters. He was 60 years old with 34 years on the Department.

:salute:

Houston police officer, part of Harvey response, confirmed dead



http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/houston-police-officer-part-harvey-response-drowns-in-car-report-says.html
No. 213     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 4:04 PM     
A neighborhood near Addicks Reservoir in Houston

No. 214     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 6:00 PM     
I have an invite/opportunity to go to Texas and assist with providing relief and support. If it were not for being so hampered by my injured knee, I would likely be packing to go right now. With my current restricted mobility, I would likely be more in the way than of any help.
No. 215     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 8:38 PM     
It's Not Over: Harvey Accelerating Inward
Increasing Flood Threat to New Orleans


https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-harvey-forecast-texas-louisiana-arkansas
No. 216     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 9:19 PM     
crayons wrote:

the more hysteria you hippy's stir up
the more money i'm gonna make.

"keep stirrin the pot Yankee'...
"$$$.$$$.00" ((laugh))


Hysteria?

The biggest flood disaster in US history breaking all kinds of records and he thought people were being a little too concerned about it.

What a dufus. Remind me never to take any weather related advice from you.

Oh I forgot, you never had any Emergency Management training from FEMA, you might have learned something...

But in your mind, assuming you have one that is, education is a bad thing, lol.
No. 217     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 10:19 PM     
Guess you forgot that Galveston was Wiped
out TWICE; Oh i forget yer an uninformed Brainwashed
Yankee/Hippy((laugh))... the first time Galveston got Wiped
off the Map; 6000 People were washed away/died!
(00)
---/


No. 218     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 10:28 PM     
crapola wrote:

Guess you forgot that Galveston was Wiped
out TWICE; Oh i forget yer an uninformed Brainwashed
Yankee/Hippy((laugh))... the first time Galveston got Wiped
off the Map; 6000 People were washed away/died!
(00)
---/



I am well aware of the Galveston disasters.

Most of them died from storm surge, not flooding from rainfall.

Look it up!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Galveston_hurricane

No. 219     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 10:35 PM     
Many more horror stories to come. Wait until they start finding all kinds of dead bodies in attics and homes, as well as in cars.

Texas woman found dead in Harvey floods; young daughter clinging to her is alive

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/texas-woman-found-dead-in-harvey-floods-young-daughter-clinging-to-her-is-alive.html
No. 220     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 10:54 PM     
Harvey breaks rain record in Texas as rescues surge

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/rain-record-broken-in-texas-as-harvey-dumps-nearly-52-inches.html
No. 221     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 11:10 PM     
Many years ago I had considered purchasing a small barrier island along the Texas coast. I knew it wasn't worth building anything on, maybe for use as a camping island to park a boat on for a few months in winter or something but that's about it.

Years ago I had considered purchasing land on the big island of Hawaii also. But eventually walked away from that idea.
No. 222     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 29, 2017 at 11:33 PM     
AccuWeather predicts Hurricane Harvey to be the most costly natural disaster in US history

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/29/accuweather-predicts-hurricane-harvey-to-be-most-costly-natural-disaster-in-us-history.html


Humble, TX August 29th.
No. 223     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 12:16 AM     
Texas Gov. Abbott: Houston suffering 'once-in-a-lifetime flooding event'

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/29/texas-gov-abbott-houston-suffering-once-in-lifetime-flooding-event.html
No. 224     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 1:15 AM     
The body count is going to go up substantially. It will likely be in the hundreds. It wouldn't surprise me if it approaches Katrina's.

There are likely many people still trapped, no electric, no water, perhaps some canned goods or other foods they may have been able to shove into the attic.

No electric means no communication and no way to call for help unless someone passes by.

There have been 30,000 people rescued thus far according to one article.

With many more tens of thousands still trapped.
No. 225     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 6:13 AM     
I dont understand the people that purposely sat there and let a category 4 hurricane hit them in the face. Why didn't they leave? I hear them say if I had of known but they did know but they chose to risk their life and the lives of their innocent kids who depend on the parents to keep them safe and out of harms way, and for what....so they could make it on the news maybe? People dont listen to warnings becuase they think its gonna be fun. I dont think those needing rescued were logical people at all. There shouldn't have been people there to need rescued in the first place. HOpefully, those that survived, learned a hard lesson from this and will leave next time. I read a comment from a texan who wanted to get some beer and have a party becuase of the hurricane coming. To some its just a big fun party. Sometimes lessons come hard. they only thing they couldn't help is the loss of their homes but the loss of their cars and their needing rescued is their own fault. I guess texans are unfailiar with the phrase better to be safe then sorry, and especially those with small children. I wouldnt sit still to be hit with a cat 1 much less a cat 4. I mean the ignorance of some people is just baffling.
No. 226     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 8:26 AM     
Got another contact late yesterday evening providing me another opportunity to go to Texas and assist. Three more teams I am affiliated with have been mobilized. My choice of which one I go with is up to me. But I simply cannot do such at this time with my knee the way it is.

At least I do not think I can. I am headed to the gym this AM for some self-directed rehab on the knee. May hold off my decision on Texas until after.

I went yesterday AM and she was feeling better and more mobile than she has in over 3 weeks now. At least until the evening she did. After the gym and being up and around all day, it was a different story at end of the day.

But this is a new day.
No. 227     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 9:02 AM     
NEW CITIES IN 'CRISIS': HOMES ON FIRE, RESIDENTS TRAPPED WITH WATER RISING
Floodwaters Rushing Into Shelter, Evacuees Flee to Bleachers

Port Arthur Tweets Plea for Boats as Harvey Floods Evacuees in Shelter



https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/harvey-flood-port-arthur-texas-shelter
No. 228     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 9:33 AM     
Harvey Flooding Horror: Rescuers Find Shivering Toddler Clinging to Drowned Mother

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/texas-mother-sacrifices-life-to-save-toddler-from-harvey-flooding
No. 229     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 11:13 AM     
NEW CITIES IN 'CRISIS': MANY STILL TRAPPED, NURSING HOMES 'INACCESSIBLE'

2 Flooded Port Arthur Nursing Homes 'Inaccessible'; City Tweets Plea for Boats as Waters Rise


https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/harvey-flood-port-arthur-texas-shelter
No. 230     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 11:21 AM     
Well at least he has a Kayak....


No. 231     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 11:27 AM     
The wealthy tend to build a little higher.

No. 232     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 11:29 AM     
Another example.

No. 233     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 11:47 AM     
Other States are sending 1st responders to assist in rescues.

"Natural disasters have an inspiring way of bringing communities and neighbors together. And as Tropical Storm Harvey lashed Houston and surrounding areas with strong winds and rising waters, it was clear that the spirit of Texas was alive and well.

First responders, police officers and firefighters rescued many people from floodwaters. On Sunday, thousands of state and national guardsmen, 20 helicopters, and 60 boats and high-water vehicles had been deployed, according to Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.

(MORE: How You Can Help Victims of Harvey)

But there were also reports of citizens helping neighbors—Texans helping Texans. People connected on social media and launched boats and kayaks to help neighbors struggling to escape the catastrophic flooding.

Nationally, states and cities have sent emergency personnel to help with rescue and relief efforts. Colorado sent 45 first responders, Missouri sent 47 first responders from across the state, and New York City sent 120 emergency personnel to assist in the aftermath of Harvey.

Click through the slideshow above to see some of the most dramatic rescues during one of the worst flooding events in Texas' history."

https://weather.com/tv/shows/responding-by-storm/news/dramatic-rescues-harvey-photos
No. 234     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 12:51 PM     
Sheriff’s Deputies Rescue Pets in Hankamer, TX

https://weather.com/safety/hurricane/video/sheriffs-deputies-rescue-pets-in-hankamer-tx
No. 235     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Vickie   Gender: F   Age: 62   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 1:01 PM     
:goodpost:

Thank you for following the events and sharing here.

I do wish millions had evacuated; but that would have caused another set of problems.

I don't know how anyone could look at the pictures you've shared and not simply PRAY for all affected.


Another side to this I'd like to forget, but with so many I know headed down to help, please be aware of the element that would take advantage of this situation.
Go prepared to defend yourselves and don't assume everyone asking for help is legitimate! Not sure if this report is accurate but we all know this element of people exists everywhere:
https://bluelivesmatter.blue/cajun-navy-shot-houston/
No. 236     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Vickie   Gender: F   Age: 62   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 1:05 PM     
Another perspective:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/28/546721363/why-didn-t-officials-order-the-evacuation-of-houston?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170828
No. 237     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 1:09 PM     
Missing Van Recovered in Harris County, Texas; 2 of 6 Missing Found Dead in Van

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/missing-van-recovered-harris-county-texas

No. 238     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 1:36 PM     
Vickie wrote:

Another perspective:

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/08/28/546721363/why-didn-t-officials-order-the-evacuation-of-houston?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170828


There simply wasn't enough time. They have learned through experience that the act of issuing an evacuation order can be a disaster in itself.

It takes DAYS for that many people to clear out.

I saw the warning signs coming, and either would have left early enough had I lived down there or made some quick preps with a boat.

If a person lives in an area prone to flooding or the possibility of breech of a levee, torrential rainfall from a tropical storm or what have you they had better make sure they have a means of escape or fleeing the danger.

Climatologists and Scientists are saying this is like a, "1,000 year event" never before having been experienced.

For a Hurricane/Tropical storm to be locked into place by 2 high pressure fronts unable to move like that for 5-6 days is rare indeed.

We will probably never see it again in out lifetime.

One thing is certain, many of those victims and survivors will be owning a boat of some sort in the future! Even if just a cheap inflatable rowboat.

After our flooding experience as a kid I have always owned one, or 2!
No. 239     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 2:01 PM     
Tropical Storm Harvey damage in Texas expected to be 'many-year' recovery, death toll rises to 20

10,000 National Guard Troops from other States sent


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/30/harvey-makes-2nd-landfall-just-west-cameron-louisiana.html
No. 240     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 2:09 PM     
"A levee has breached near Gueydan, La., and the National Guard is working in the area to address the issue, according to Edwards."
No. 241     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM     
Harvey's death toll climbs in Texas; at least 21 killed

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/30/harvey-makes-2nd-landfall-just-west-cameron-louisiana.html
No. 242     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 4:46 PM     
There's No Way to Prevent Explosion at Southeast Texas Chemical Plant, Owner Says

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/harvey-texas-chemical-plant-evacuations
No. 243     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 4:51 PM     
Lost During Harvey: Help Reunite These Children With Their Family

https://weather.com/news/news/help-reunite-stewart-children-family
No. 244     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 5:56 PM     
I heard on the news this afternoon that all confirmed deaths thus far, have been due to attempting to evacuate, versus sheltering in place. It is a timing decision for sure.
No. 245     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 8:07 PM     
Of all the dirty low down scum that humanity can cook up, parasites like these are the very worst. Lock them up and throw away the key!

Or give them to point of your gun barrel.

INSULT TO INJURY: Fake DHS agents order Harvey victims to evacuate so homes can get robbed, feds warn

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/30/houston-dhs-officials-warn-residents-fake-agents.html
No. 246     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 8:25 PM     
Human Chain Saves Elderly Man

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/human-chain-saves-elderly-man
No. 247     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 8:37 PM     
"A country boy can survive!" ` Hank Williams Jr.

Hunters, Fishermen Out in Force to Rescue Houston Flood Victims

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/30/duck-hunters-fisherman-outnumber-government/

No. 248     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 8:46 PM     
Of course they will offer aid, a lot of Mexico's Citizens live in Houston!

Texas Will Accept Mexico’s Offer for Harvey Relief

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/30/texas-will-accept-mexicos-offer-harvey-relief/
No. 249     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 8:51 PM     
Chick-fil-A Manager Organizes Jet Ski Rescue for Harvey Victims

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/30/chick-fil-manager-organizes-jet-ski-rescue-harvey-victims/
No. 250     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 8:56 PM     
Anheuser-Busch, MillerCoors Send Cans of Water to Harvey Victims



http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/29/anheuser-busch-millercoors-send-cans-of-water-to-harvey-victims/
No. 251     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 9:12 PM     
Sickening...

Linda Sarsour Solicits Donations to Left-Wing Community Organizers for ‘Hurricane Relief Fund

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/30/linda-sarsour-solicits-donations-to-left-wing-community-organizers-for-hurricane-relief-fund/

No. 252     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 10:40 PM     
That should get their attention eh? Straight and to the point! In more rural areas they can get away with everyone evacuating, not as much in the way of traffic jams.

Texas county warns residents, 'GET OUT OR DIE!' as Harvey moves inland

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/30/texas-county-warns-residents-get-out-or-die-as-harvey-moves-inland.html
No. 253     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 10:48 PM     
I sure wouldn't want their job right now.

'Hell's breaking loose': A 911 center under siege by Harvey

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/30/hells-breaking-loose-911-center-under-siege-by-harvey.html
No. 254     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 30, 2017 at 11:05 PM     
Israel Sends relief Aid To Texas

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/08/30/israel-sends-relief-aid-to-texas/
No. 255     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 12:02 AM     
US Military Mobilizes Warships, Aircraft

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/harvey-deadly-storm-flooding-south-texas-impacts
No. 256     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 12:10 AM     
Tropical Depression Harvey Trekking Toward the Ohio Valley; Major Flooding Swamps East Texas; Heavy Rain Threat From Louisiana to Kentucky

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/tropical-storm-harvey-forecast-texas-louisiana-arkansas
No. 257     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 10:36 AM     
Looks like Harvey is coming to Ohio, my state.

http://www.13abc.com/content/news/UPDATE-ON-TROPICAL-STORM-HARVEY-442067423.html
No. 258     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 10:38 AM     
Isn't harvey dead pretty much and really harmless now days.
No. 259     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 11:02 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Isn't harvey dead pretty much and really harmless now days.


No. It has simply been downgraded to a tropical storm which is still bringing a lot of rain.
No. 260     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 12:19 PM     
no its downgraded to a depression.
No. 261     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 1:42 PM     
When it reaches Ohio, it will be known as...are you ready?...

Rain
No. 262     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 4:15 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

no its downgraded to a depression.


It had to become a tropical storm before it could be downgraded to a depression. Which is what it was before it became a depression.
No. 263     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 5:05 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

no its downgraded to a depression.


It had to become a tropical storm before it could be downgraded to a depression. Which is what it was before it became a depression.


What she meant was it had been downgraded to a Tropical Depression.

You had stated it was currently a "Tropical Storm", and at the time it had already been downgraded to a depression.

You probably hadn't yet seen the change yet in the news yet.
No. 264     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 5:13 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Survivor698 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

no its downgraded to a depression.


It had to become a tropical storm before it could be downgraded to a depression. Which is what it was before it became a depression.


What she meant was it had been downgraded to a Tropical Depression.

You had stated it was currently a "Tropical Storm", and at the time it had already been downgraded to a depression.

You probably hadn't yet seen the change yet in the news yet.



Either way, they are still warning of flood threats. That was the point.

TCG stated it is now harmless.
No. 265     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 5:21 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

no its downgraded to a depression.


It had to become a tropical storm before it could be downgraded to a depression. Which is what it was before it became a depression.

I know that. But a depression is nothing and where im at even tropical storms dont bother me unless its right next being a hurricane. Thats the only time I get concerned.
No. 266     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 5:33 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Survivor698 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

no its downgraded to a depression.


It had to become a tropical storm before it could be downgraded to a depression. Which is what it was before it became a depression.

I know that. But a depression is nothing and where im at even tropical storms dont bother me unless its right next being a hurricane. Thats the only time I get concerned.


We were not talking about whether it only bothered or only concerned you. Even with it being a depression they are warning of the threat of floods from the rains that go along with a depression.
No. 267     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 5:49 PM     
If the ground was already saturated, a depression would not be good. All the depressions I ever got was only light rain for short time, nothing severe. But harvey is acting all kinds of strange so who knows what they will recieve.
No. 268     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 6:50 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

If the ground was already saturated, a depression would not be good. All the depressions I ever got was only light rain for short time, nothing severe. But harvey is acting all kinds of strange so who knows what they will recieve.


So you are now saying people should not heed warnings? When just yesterday to no more than a day or so ago, you criticized those that may have not heeded warnings.
No. 269     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 7:35 PM     
no thats not what I said.
No. 270     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 7:40 PM     
Someone from tx siad they know who made that storm and they can prove it so there is gonna be class action suits. I dont know how that will work out since its kinda hard to prove in a court of law that it was a man made hurricane and by whomever he or she is accusing.
No. 271     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 7:53 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

no thats not what I said.


That is essentially what you said.
No. 272     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 8:20 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Survivor698 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

no its downgraded to a depression.


It had to become a tropical storm before it could be downgraded to a depression. Which is what it was before it became a depression.

I know that. But a depression is nothing and where im at even tropical storms dont bother me unless its right next being a hurricane. Thats the only time I get concerned.


I would not say that.

Harvey did most of it's damage AS a tropical Storm!

What made it so deadly is that it stayed in one general area for 5-6 days unloading a historic amount of rain before moving Northward.

It being stationary is what caused most of the trouble.
No. 273     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 8:22 PM     
that was the answer to what you are falsely accusing me of in a question form. The answer was no. Survivor, You alwasy want to do your best to start a fight with me but im not gonna let you do it so you might as well go away.
No. 274     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 8:29 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

Survivor698 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

no its downgraded to a depression.


It had to become a tropical storm before it could be downgraded to a depression. Which is what it was before it became a depression.

I know that. But a depression is nothing and where im at even tropical storms dont bother me unless its right next being a hurricane. Thats the only time I get concerned.


I would not say that.

Harvey did most of it's damage AS a tropical Storm!

What made it so deadly is that it stayed in one general area for 5-6 days unloading a historic amount of rain before moving Northward.

It being stationary is what caused most of the trouble.

Yes the problem was it stayed and wouldn't move but most storms do not do that and also it was a hurricane before it downgraded to a tropical storm. But the storms im talking about for me was not accompained by a hurricane much less a major one. But harvey is no longer a hurricane or a tropical storm, just a depression.
No. 275     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 9:19 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

that was the answer to what you are falsely accusing me of in a question form. The answer was no. Survivor, You alwasy want to do your best to start a fight with me but im not gonna let you do it so you might as well go away.


No, you have took the efforts to make this a fight.

I simply shared facts that you disagree with. People are clearly still in danger and they are being warned of the potential danger. That is the only point I attempted to make.

It is you that stated Harvey is now harmless, now that Harvey is not at your door. Just because you have experienced something different with depressions does not make them harmless. Apparently many weather experts do not agree with you.
No. 276     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 9:31 PM     
One disaster after another due to Harvey.

Now the entire City of Beaumont, TX, population 117,000+ is without water. As a result the Hospital there had to be evac

Harvey's Impacts Outside of Houston: Hospital Evacuated, Water Supply Lost in Beaumont

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/beaumont-texas-loses-water-supply-due-to-neches-river-flooding
No. 277     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 9:34 PM     
Harvey Likely Totaled 500,000 Cars: What Happens Next?

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/harvey-has-likely-totaled-500000-cars
No. 278     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 9:44 PM     
Texas teen uses boat to rescue at least 50 Harvey victims

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/5559620157001/?#sp=show-clips
No. 279     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 9:52 PM     
Have received two more invites this evening to go to Texas and assist.

One from the Red Cross earlier today. I have had training with them and on a list of potential volunteers, but what they invited me for was to be a "shelter manager". They offer specific certification training for that of which I have not had, thus I am not formally qualified per their own requirements to serve in that capacity.

The other was just minutes ago from a personal friend. She has made her group of volunteers available as On Stand By with an organization called Convoy of Hope. She does not yet know exactly when her group will be called up, but she put out the contacts this evening for those that can go, to now be ready to go at a moments notice.
No. 280     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 9:56 PM     
And he should as far as i'm concerned! I can agree with and even sanction looting in order to sustain one's life. Like attempting to get water, food, clothing, shelter, etc for yourself or your Family and friends. But loading your boat up with TV's and Electronics for example (assuming they weren't damaged) with the intention of making a future profit off of them would be way out of line.

WATCH: Shotgun-Toting ‘Ex-SWAT Deputy’ to Houston Looters — ‘I Will Cut You in Half’

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/31/watch-shotgun-toting-ex-swat-deputy-houston-looters-will-cut-half/

No. 281     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 9:56 PM     
Blessing in disguise as far as the used car
market goes...This will Prop up New Car Sales

All flood cars will become black market/Can Not be Financed
they will be considered totaled; orange title.
eventually sold for penny's on the dollar and ultimately
crushed because no one has the money for bargains.

BUT I'll always take on another late model 3500 Dodge Dually
flood vehicle, or Volvo Automatic ten speed Sleeper Cab's
No. 282     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 10:14 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

The other was just minutes ago from a personal friend. She has made her group of volunteers available as On Stand By with an organization called Convoy of Hope. She does not yet know exactly when her group will be called up, but she put out the contacts this evening for those that can go, to now be ready to go at a moments notice.


LOL. Just heard from her again a couple minutes ago.

She works for a local high school. One of her positions is recreation manager. In addition to looking for volunteers to go to Texas with her, she needs a football coach.
No. 283     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 10:18 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

Have received two more invites this evening to go to Texas and assist.

One from the Red Cross earlier today. I have had training with them and on a list of potential volunteers, but what they invited me for was to be a "shelter manager". They offer specific certification training for that of which I have not had, thus I am not formally qualified per their own requirements to serve in that capacity.

The other was just minutes ago from a personal friend. She has made her group of volunteers available as On Stand By with an organization called Convoy of Hope. She does not yet know exactly when her group will be called up, but she put out the contacts this evening for those that can go, to now be ready to go at a moments notice.


My original dream for retirement was to not only travel, but to be on-call for emergency disaster response, specifically for SATERN (Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network) - Ham Radio volunteers working directly for The Salvation Army's Emergency Disaster Service (EDS).

I trained with SATERN, bought my teardrop trailer and upgraded its electronics to be a communication vehicle.

And then the 2008 crash happened and I began waking up to what was happening politically in this country - specifically the corruption of government, and that's when I switched priorities and began thinking of re-location, initially to the American Redoubt and later offshore.

Over the years, I've sort of lost touch with SATERN, and the director, a personal friend, also relocated...to Heaven.

And now? Could I go to Texas and still volunteer?

Yes and no. Yes, I have the freedom to do so since I am 'retired,' but in reality I need to carefully allocate my financial resources to obtain citizenship (expensive lawyer services), carefully allocate my time priorities, and I now have a medical condition with my feet to consider.

I wish I could go, but it just doesn't fit into my present-day priorities any more. If it were closer, say, my state (Ohio...or Michigan) then yes, maybe I would.
No. 284     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 10:40 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

Survivor698 wrote:

Have received two more invites this evening to go to Texas and assist.

One from the Red Cross earlier today. I have had training with them and on a list of potential volunteers, but what they invited me for was to be a "shelter manager". They offer specific certification training for that of which I have not had, thus I am not formally qualified per their own requirements to serve in that capacity.

The other was just minutes ago from a personal friend. She has made her group of volunteers available as On Stand By with an organization called Convoy of Hope. She does not yet know exactly when her group will be called up, but she put out the contacts this evening for those that can go, to now be ready to go at a moments notice.


My original dream for retirement was to not only travel, but to be on-call for emergency disaster response, specifically for SATERN (Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Network) - Ham Radio volunteers working directly for The Salvation Army's Emergency Disaster Service (EDS).

I trained with SATERN, bought my teardrop trailer and upgraded its electronics to be a communication vehicle.

And then the 2008 crash happened and I began waking up to what was happening politically in this country - specifically the corruption of government, and that's when I switched priorities and began thinking of re-location, initially to the American Redoubt and later offshore.

Over the years, I've sort of lost touch with SATERN, and the director, a personal friend, also relocated...to Heaven.

And now? Could I go to Texas and still volunteer?

Yes and no. Yes, I have the freedom to do so since I am 'retired,' but in reality I need to carefully allocate my financial resources to obtain citizenship (expensive lawyer services), carefully allocate my time priorities, and I now have a medical condition with my feet to consider.

I wish I could go, but it just doesn't fit into my present-day priorities any more. If it were closer, say, my state (Ohio...or Michigan) then yes, maybe I would.


I intended to be well involved with HAM before I attended the next Great Lakes Emergency Preparedness Expo next month, but I have kept pushing her to the back burner. One of my best friends just completed setting up an impressive HAM home-base system. He just recently became involved and went gung-ho immediately.
No. 285     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 10:56 PM     
Over 200 Houston Police Officers have either lost their homes or sustained damage from flooding.

They are working 12 hour shifts.

EXCLUSIVE: Despite Losing Homes, Houston Cops Put Duty First, Says Chief Acevedo

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/31/exclusive-despite-losing-homes-houston-cops-put-duty-first-says-chief-acevedo/

No. 286     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 11:13 PM     
I'm sure the left will try and find something wrong with this....

WH: Trump Will ‘Pledge Proudly $1 Million of His Own Personal Money’ to Harvey Relief

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/08/31/wh-trump-will-pledge-proudly-1-million-personal-money-harvey-relief/
No. 287     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 11:27 PM     
Left Wing Politico Defends Mocking Harvey Flood Victims In Cartoons

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/08/31/explanations-from-politicos-hate-toonist-are-total-bs/

No. 288     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 11:34 PM     
Anything comin from scumbag libtard "Acevedo's office"
should be takin with a grain of salt, he floats from
one libtard bastion to the next,He was a disaster for
Austin.
No. 289     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 11:40 PM     
Pizza Hut Employees Delivering Free Pizzas by Kayak for Harvey Victims

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/31/pizza-hut-employees-delivering-free-pizzas-kayak-harvey-victims/



No. 290     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 12:16 AM     
Due to, "panic buying" by the public...

North Texas Temporarily Runs Low on Gas in Hurricane Harvey’s Aftermath

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/08/31/north-texas-temporarily-runs-low-gas-hurricane-harveys-aftermath/
No. 291     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 12:25 AM     
Gas Buddy reported 270 stations had run out of fuel in San Antonio. Are there that many there??? People are getting violent at gas wait lines.

Shouting matches punctuate growing lines at San Antonio gas stations, more than 100 now without fuel

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Gas-shortages-reported-at-several-Exxon-Chevron-12163629.phphttp://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Gas-shortages-reported-at-several-Exxon-Chevron-12163629.php
No. 292     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 12:31 AM     
Thats why we mostly drive Diesel!
""Laugh""
No. 293     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 12:33 AM     
Fill ’er up. Some Dallas - Fort Worth Gas Stations may run out of gas by this Labor Day weekend

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/news/traffic/gas-prices/article170270997.html#storylink=cpy
No. 294     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 12:56 AM     
It could take a month for all that to recede.

Flyover Reveals Extent Of Flooding in Beaumont, TX

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5558379399001/
No. 295     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 1:01 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Someone from tx siad they know who made that storm and they can prove it so there is gonna be class action suits. I dont know how that will work out since its kinda hard to prove in a court of law that it was a man made hurricane and by whomever he or she is accusing.


It will likely work by tossing it right out of Court...
No. 296     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 1:08 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Isn't harvey dead pretty much and really harmless now days.


No, it is still causing flooding and Tornadoes in some areas.

Possible Tornado Causes Damages in Alabama, Residents Urged to Evacuate in Tennessee

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/beaumont-texas-loses-water-supply-due-to-neches-river-flooding
No. 297     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 1:16 AM     
Appears Like many Yankee libtards """ Want To Be Here"""
"Makin the money we are Makin NOW"..."To Bad<>So Sad!

Have a Wonderful Day! ""Laughin!""
No. 298     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 1:17 AM     
No. 299     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 1:26 AM     
No. 300     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 1:37 AM     
Vice President Mike Pence & Texas Governor Greg Abbott in wheelchair helping clear debris in Rockport, TX.

No. 301     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 1:40 AM     
Homeless Yankee SJW Anarchist's CANT AFFORD H2O!
GO HOME YANKEES! (((laughin)))(((WHOOOOOOOOOOOO)))
No. 302     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 1:40 AM     
Port Arthur, TX

No. 303     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 1:55 AM     
Hilarious... BullShyyter Advertises His Survival Garbage
Wanting Us to Buy IT;

But I Ain't Buyin HIS Libtard FEMA "Jesuit Propaganda" ((laughin))
No. 304     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 3:04 AM     
Harvey hit many wealthy areas too, and did not discriminate. Many wealthy people have quite expansive 2nd stories though so they probably faired better than those with only single story homes.

Harvey Hit Rich and Poor Alike

https://weather.com/safety/hurricane/video/harvey-hit-ri
No. 305     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 8:14 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

Someone from tx siad they know who made that storm and they can prove it so there is gonna be class action suits. I dont know how that will work out since its kinda hard to prove in a court of law that it was a man made hurricane and by whomever he or she is accusing.


It will likely work by tossing it right out of Court...


Correct. There will never be enough evidence for it ever go to court.
No. 306     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 8:30 AM     
Ya thats what I figure too but some texans want revenge and I dont blame them.
No. 307     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 10:20 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Vice President Mike Pence & Texas Governor Greg Abbott in wheelchair helping clear debris in Rockport, TX.



:thumb_up:

I am very impressed with Trump reaching in his own pocket as well for relief efforts.

This is truly devastating (has it been determined worse than the New Orleans flooding?

It is tearful to witness for certain. My heart goes out for the victims of this horrific natural disaster for certain.



No. 308     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 12:14 PM     
Well, Harvey's clouds have reached us (but no rain) and our skies in NW Ohio are overcast, giving us a temp. of the mid-60's, rather than the normal 80's.
No. 309     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 1:59 PM     
Here where I am ( North Central West Virginia ) ... we are only getting a very mild rainshower.
No. 310     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 8:26 PM     
Houston Mayor Strongly Encouraging Evacuations Near Reservoirs

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/harvey-deadly-storm-flooding-houston-south-texas-impacts
No. 311     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 9:07 PM     
'Don't Touch Me. I'm Dying': Harrowing Stories of Harvey Heroism Emerge

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-tropical-storm-harvey-sad-stories-dont-touch-me-im-dying
No. 312     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 9:16 PM     
Beaumont, TX Pastor rescues 80 people

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/video/performing-rescues-and-offering-relief
No. 313     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 9:34 PM     
Harvey Remnants Hit Ohio And Tennessee Valleys

https://weather.com/news/weather/video/harvey-remnants-hit-tennessee-ohio-valleys
No. 314     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 1, 2017 at 10:31 PM     
I wonder why this woman refuses to be rescued? She must have heard about fema camps lol



No. 315     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 2, 2017 at 2:53 AM     
crapola wrote:

Hilarious... BullShyyter Advertises His Survival Garbage
Wanting Us to Buy IT;

But I Ain't Buyin HIS Libtard FEMA "Jesuit Propaganda" ((laughin))



https://silvertechsales.com/cart/clothing/patches.html/12pc-confederate-rebel-flag-patches.html
No. 316     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 2, 2017 at 3:20 AM     
crapola wrote:

Hilarious... BullShyyter Advertises His Survival Garbage
Wanting Us to Buy IT;

But I Ain't Buyin HIS Libtard FEMA "Jesuit Propaganda" ((laughin))


This should be big enough to hold your daily dose of Whiskey...

1 Gallon Stainless Steel Flask with TEXAS SIZED Imprint. Gift boxed.

Features:

Brushed Finish on Sides, Polished Finish on Top & Bottom
Screw-Down Cap
Measures 8-1/8" x 15" x 2-1/8"
Limited Lifetime Warranty



https://silvertechsales.com/cart/home/collectibles/flasks.html/1-gallon-stainless-steel-flask-with-texas-sized-imprint.html
No. 317     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 3:40 AM     
Harvey Beyond Houston: Beaumont Residents Wait in Mile-Long Lines for Bottled Water

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/beaumont-texas-loses-water-supply-due-to-neches-river-flooding
No. 318     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 3:57 AM     
I'm sure the liberal looney left will find something wrong in this...

President Donald Trump Serves Meals to Hurricane Victims at Houston Relief Center

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/02/president-donald-trump-serves-meals-to-hurricane-victims-at-houston-relief-center/

No. 319     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 4:11 AM     
The Latest: Houston-area reservoirs to drain for months


http://www.breitbart.com/news/the-latest-houston-area-reservoirs-to-drain-for-months/
No. 320     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 4:14 AM     
The final death toll will likely be in the hundreds...

More than 50 Believed Killed by Hurricane Harvey — Many More Expected as Floods Recede

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/09/02/50-believed-killed-hurricane-harvey-many-expected-floods-recede/
No. 321     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 4:18 AM     
Donald and Melania Trump Bring Sunshine After Rain in Texas

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/02/donald-and-melania-trump-bring-sunshine-after-rain-in-texas/
No. 322     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 4:21 AM     
HARVEY: Rockport 60 Percent Destroyed or Totaled, Says Mayor

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/09/02/harvey-rockport-60-percent-destroyed-totaled-says-mayor/
No. 323     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 4:25 AM     
Trump’s National Day of Prayer Follows Tradition of Washington, Lincoln, and Reagan

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/02/trumps-national-day-of-prayer-follows-tradition-of-washington-lincoln-and-reagan/
No. 324     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 7:20 PM     
I hate the Puffington Host but...

"Wisconsin Sends 17,000 Pounds Of Cheese To Texas For Hurricane Harvey Victims"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wisconsin-cheese-hurricane-harvey_us_59abf713e4b0b5e530ff40b1
No. 325     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Sep 4, 2017 at 11:18 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

I'm sure the liberal looney left will find something wrong in this...

President Donald Trump Serves Meals to Hurricane Victims at Houston Relief Center

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/02/president-donald-trump-serves-meals-to-hurricane-victims-at-houston-relief-center/



I am happy and proud to see this!



No. 326     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 10:40 PM     
People Stealing Property From Homes, Yards in Flood-Ravaged Houston

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/09/05/hurricane-harvey-victims-texas-dealing-pickers-stealing-property-homes-yards
No. 327     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 10:52 PM     
Almost 500 Houston Police Officers Homes were flooded during Hurricane Harvey.

Houston police union, donations helping officers who lost everything after Harvey

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/05/houston-police-union-donations-helping-officers-who-lost-everything-after-harvey.html
No. 328     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 5:36 AM     
Engineers warned Houston 20 years ago about their flood control reservoirs were antiquated.

Engineers 20 years ago warned of flooding risk

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/05/engineers-20-years-ago-warned-flooding-risk.html
No. 329     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Vickie   Gender: F   Age: 62   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 11:01 AM     

It is said more than 80% of those flooded in Texas did not have flood insurance. It was not even available to most because they were not in flood planes.

One thing is very clear, Houston is NOT a place to live. Evacuation is near impossible and disasters guaranteed.

I pray for all affected and that help continue to pour in, that they look to the Lord Jesus for comfort and clarity in all the decisions that must be made. I pray for unity and peace in families and communities and that we all allow God to take this and work good throughout, in Jesus Name.

No. 330     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 11:06 AM     
one of my daughter friends lot her home in the horrible flood last yr in denham springs, la and she moved to tx and lost her home there this yr. she has two small children. I feel so sorry for her.
No. 331     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 11:09 AM     
Vickie wrote:


It is said more than 80% of those flooded in Texas did not have flood insurance. It was not even available to most because they were not in flood planes.

One thing is very clear, Houston is NOT a place to live. Evacuation is near impossible and disasters guaranteed.

I pray for all affected and that help continue to pour in, that they look to the Lord Jesus for comfort and clarity in all the decisions that must be made. I pray for unity and peace in families and communities and that we all allow God to take this and work good throughout, in Jesus Name.



Amen.

How devastating concerning the lack of Insurance.

I am so happy to see the donations coming forth and hope this lack of insurance is kept in mind and people continue to give.
No. 332     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 11:13 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Engineers warned Houston 20 years ago about their flood control reservoirs were antiquated.

Engineers 20 years ago warned of flooding risk

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/05/engineers-20-years-ago-warned-flooding-risk.html


As it was with the Louisiana dams/levees.

No. 333     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 11:15 AM     
Vickie wrote:

I pray for all affected and that help continue to pour in, that they look to the Lord Jesus for comfort and clarity in all the decisions that must be made. I pray for unity and peace in families and communities and that we all allow God to take this and work good throughout, in Jesus Name.



Very well stated ... and amen ! :high5:
No. 334     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 9:30 PM     
Harvey death toll now stands at 70

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/06/harvey-death-toll-now-stands-at-70.html
No. 335     Reply: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 10:15 PM     
that dont sound like many. I thought it would be in the hundreds. But I guess they will find more every day as flood waters go down. I quit watching the houston news when crazy Irma came about
No. 336     Reply: Re: Re: Hurricane Harvey And Texas   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 6, 2017 at 10:48 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

that dont sound like many. I thought it would be in the hundreds. But I guess they will find more every day as flood waters go down. I quit watching the houston news when crazy Irma came about


It will still take awhile to account for all who are missing/drowned.

I am thinking it will be over 100 at least.

It may not be as many as Katrina but still bad enough.