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No. 0     Original Topic: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 62   on  Aug 16, 2017 at 10:19 PM   Viewed 2145 times     
Uploaded yesterday, this is the top video on the channel page below. It should open in a new tab.

Like others are doing or possibly learning to do, the project presents just another small and somewhat lousy effort by an amateur to help out in the war of evil deceit raging about where America is heading and how we got here. Things are getting weirder and more dangerous by the week, as everyone can see.

The Great American Racism Hoax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBLD2rYo4Tc

[ Modified to change for revised video. The reviews are in from here, another site posted at and even at home. NOBODY likes the presentation. Sorry for being boring or dumb, speaking too slowly. I might take it down out of trying to avoid looking like a dummy. But for now I want the title out there because people are getting beaten and sometimes murdered on the streets based on liars convincing 90% of the population to swallow a lie about racism history and racism current events. ]
No. 1     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 16, 2017 at 11:02 PM     
thanks...listening to steve pieczenik's "agiprop" interview on infowars
at the moment...he gets to the point...will listen to your's next.
No. 2     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  sweetmusicman   Gender: M   Age: 42   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 2:12 AM     
So the recent(Saturday) Nazi,KKK and Alt-Right in Charlotte'sville didn't happened and it's all a lie/hoax? It's all a ploy by Democrats and the MSM to get at Trump?
No. 3     Reply: Re: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 3:29 AM     
sweetmusicman wrote:

So the recent(Saturday) Nazi,KKK and Alt-Right in Charlotte'sville didn't happened and it's all a lie/hoax? It's all a ploy by Democrats and the MSM to get at Trump?


I noticed you left out the ultra racist far left Antifa and BLM groups.

Why???
No. 4     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 3:50 AM     
Notice how the US Bureau Of Prisons conveniently, "skews" and distorts the true facts in order to make it, "appear" as if "white" people make up most of the prison population.

First look at this, "Race" chart, notice there is only, Black, White, Native American, and Asian.

They leave out any Hispanics entirely but rather lump them into the, "white" section thereby inflating the figures and making it appear as if, "whites" are committing most of the crimes:

https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_race.jsp

Now look at this chart on, "Ethnicity" which only shows, "Non-Hispanic" and "Hispanic":

https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_ethnicity.jsp

Notice how they do not offer any charts that break down the various ethnic groups according to black, white, Hispanic, etc.

The reason they do this is to hide the truth from you!

I am betting this trickery is leftover from the oblama administration to make it appear as if whites are the ones committing the majority of crimes in this country when in fact when you take a closer examination at the facts it is blacks who make up the majority of prison populations.
No. 5     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 3:59 AM     
The real truth is that blacks commit 5 times as much crime as whites do.

And Hispanics twice as much crime as whites.

Why is that?

https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/rates.html

Hint: It has to do with what is inside them, and what is not.
No. 6     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 4:30 AM     
What I am about to present here may not sit well with some yet it is the absolute truth. It is not meant to be racist but is reality.

Whites overall who come from European ancestry have had 2,000 years of Christianity hammered into them.

Blacks overall have only had a few hundred years of being exposed to the Gospel. Before that time most were in Africa worshipping pagan false idols and ideologies and deeply involved in Voodoo/Witchcraft.

It was only when they were brought to America and Europe that they were eventually exposed to the Gospel. Christianity was not strong in Africa and was not the predominant religion. Paganism was.

Hispanic are a combination of Spanish ancestry which has strong roots in catholicism and pagan Native American Indian beliefs. So they too have trouble being that much of catholicism goes against what is in the Bible and what it teaches.

So in a sense whites overall have been fortunate in that they have been blessed with 2,000 years of Christianity.

Blacks as a race are relatively new to the Gospel.

As are Hispanics/Native Americans.

I am talking about generations as a whole added together, not one person's lifelong Christian walk.

That may sound rough but sit back and think about it for awhile, it's true!
No. 7     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 4:36 AM     
No. 8     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 10:43 AM     
except for ingrahmm/hannity Fox is like CNN now.
but i have to ask "is that you in the video Randal"?

I hope you're OK, and be careful.
No. 9     Reply: Re: Re: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 9:57 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

sweetmusicman wrote:

So the recent(Saturday) Nazi,KKK and Alt-Right in Charlotte'sville didn't happened and it's all a lie/hoax? It's all a ploy by Democrats and the MSM to get at Trump?


I noticed you left out the ultra racist far left Antifa and BLM groups.

Why???


I think it is fairly obvious. He is not interested in truth; he is only interested in leftist agenda, though like many SJW's he tries to mask it with pseudo-intelligent questions and comments.

He may even believe in his delusions - the leftist ground troops often do.

As I said elsewhere...canon-fodder.
No. 10     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 73   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 10:44 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

sweetmusicman wrote:

So the recent(Saturday) Nazi,KKK and Alt-Right in Charlotte'sville didn't happened and it's all a lie/hoax? It's all a ploy by Democrats and the MSM to get at Trump?


I noticed you left out the ultra racist far left Antifa and BLM groups.

Why???


I think it is fairly obvious. He is not interested in truth; he is only interested in leftist agenda, though like many SJW's he tries to mask it with pseudo-intelligent questions and comments.

He may even believe in his delusions - the leftist ground troops often do.

As I said elsewhere...canon-fodder.


canon-fodder.

Is canon a kind of fodder or people are chewing it to spew out more dung? :rolleyes::icon_eek:
No. 11     Reply: Re: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 62   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 10:49 PM     
sweetmusicman wrote:

So the recent(Saturday) Nazi,KKK and Alt-Right in Charlotte'sville didn't happened and it's all a lie/hoax? It's all a ploy by Democrats and the MSM to get at Trump?

Try to resist the hateful marxist professional liars in the lib media. The fill the minds of people with disgusting attacks on patriots, on Christians. on anyone threatening their New World Order. Did you listen to the talk? It is all self-explanatory and should have left you with thoughts nothing like the one expressed above.

PS: I used to believe the paid lib media liars too. I know how it works and how it feels. Their job is to keep people voting for Democrat traitors and to shame anyone standing up for freedom, fairness, common sense. This has been done in many nations before ours. Listen to the audio for your own sake is my recommendation. Good luck. It is tough for some getting out of their grip.

Just know that we are NOT the awful people depicted by them. We are, in fact, the good guys in this war of words.
No. 12     Reply: Re: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 62   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 10:52 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Notice how the US Bureau Of Prisons conveniently, "skews" and distorts the true facts in order to make it, "appear" as if "white" people make up most of the prison population.

I've heard about them doing that. Now you've got evidence.

Sneaky little demons in our government and media. It's kind of cool how the presence of Trump caused so many Republican frauds to out themselves in the name of feigned moral outrage.
No. 13     Reply: Re: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 62   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 11:01 PM     
crayons wrote:

except for ingrahmm/hannity Fox is like CNN now.

I would add in for the most part Tucker Carlson too, which is a surprise to me. And Jesse Watters. Plenty of them on the wrong side down there, however.


but i have to ask "is that you in the video Randal"?

Sorry to say, yes. My apology for the lame attempts at getting in the fight.


I hope you're OK, and be careful.

Thanks for that. Okay in some ways, not so in others. I am safe though, and maybe learning, enjoying the site of history unfolding so dramatically, the stunning spectacle of traitors in the media, Demonic Party and probably 98% of Republicans. So there's that.

Hope you are okay as well, and safe. These times are more weird probably than any of us imagined not so long ago.
No. 14     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 17, 2017 at 11:40 PM     
No; I have to apologize for askin you to
pull your LBjr thread a while back...i thought
many would figure it out. i was mistaken/people don't
know squat.

Truth is I knew LB from Houston/NOPD & affiliates;
but todays political climate Now makes LB look
like a Boy Scout/Saint.
No. 15     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  sweetmusicman   Gender: M   Age: 42   on  Aug 18, 2017 at 1:20 PM     
In the hours and days following the deadly “Unite the Right” rally on 12 August 2017, President Donald Trump laid the blame for the violence that took the lives of three people in Charlottesville, Virginia on “many sides.”

The claim that white supremacists and counter-demonstrators carry equal responsibility for the weekend melee in Charlottesville has been widely rejected — both Democrat and Republican lawmakers have repudiated the views espoused by rally attendees who were seen using racist and anti-Semitic epithets and carrying Nazi symbols. But the president’s comments have drawn attention to far left demonstrators known as “antifa” (short for anti-fascist), who have been showing up to counter white supremacist rallies, sometimes violently).

However, videos of a car ramming into a group of pedestrians protesting the rally doesn’t show any antifa members of in the crowd. Instead, Heather Heyer, the 32-year-old woman who was killed, was a Charlottesville local and many of the people in the area appeared to be regular demonstrators. Nevertheless on the day she was killed, President Trump said:

We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence, on many sides. On many sides.

Two days later, under pressure to condemn white supremacist violence, President Trump revisited the issue, but blamed the “alt-left,” a term probably meant to refer to “antifa.” He said:

Okay, what about the alt-left that came charging at [indiscernible] — excuse me — what about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, the alt-right? Do they have any semblance of guilt?


Even though the people who died amid the unrest have not been linked to antifa (the other two victims were police officers), questions have since been raised about the violence at the weekend rally and further potential for violence at upcoming events by both the alt-right (a term that encompasses different strands of white supremacist factions) and the antifa activists who come out to meet them. Experts tell us that statistically, historically, and in terms of philosophy the alt-right poses a bigger threat and greater evil, but the violence at political demonstrations has ratcheting up in recent months.

Brian Levin, criminal justice professor at California State University at San Bernardino who is an expert on hate groups, said ideology aside, street violence is generally increasing at political demonstrations, as extremist groups are egged on by each other’s words and actions:


To be sure, there is a violent subsection of antifa which is getting much publicity and much more prominent — to say they’re not is just false. By the same token there isn’t a moral equivalency in philosophy, but there is an escalating arms race with regard to extremists on different sides, of which I think alt-right are now at the forefront.



But, he pointed out, “antifa” isn’t as organized as the alt-right, and doesn’t have the access to the channels of publicity and governmental influence that the alt-right does:


The alt-right is far more organized and has greater access to the political mainstream than their less-organized cohorts on the hard left who do not enjoy or do not have the same structure or access into the political mainstream. Both are anti-establishments and socio-political entities that can radicalize constituents to violence but the alt-right just as an organism is far larger, more sophisticated and more able to participate in the political mainstream, particularly through messaging.


Marilyn Mayo, senior research fellow for the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, said that statistics show that radical leftists have been dramatically less likely to kill people than their counterparts on the opposite side of the political spectrum. Over the past decade, extremists of every stripe have killed 372 Americans. 74 percent of those killings were committed by right wing extremists. Only 2 percent of those deaths were at the hands of left wing extremists. Mayo told us:


I don’t want to give moral equivalence to the two sides because one side is fighting against white supremacy. On the Antifa side, they’ve never murdered anyone but there have been many murders done by white supremacists, so we have to be concerned about that movement.



But, she said:


You have an escalation of rhetoric and you have people who are willing to fight it out in the streets. With this political polarization in the country right now, you have people who come dressed for battle, and when they confront each other it can lead to violence.

This is kind of a watershed moments because we saw one of the largest and most violent white supremacist rallies in over a decade. It brought together a lot of strains under one umbrella and the fact these groups were able to unite shows they feel the moment is very ripe to get their message out and be in the streets. They’re not afraid to be out and open in their views. When you have people who have so much hate and bigotry, shouting things like “Jews will not replace us,” it shows that they are rearing for action. And there’s always the potential for violence when you have hate groups going out into the streets.




John Sepulvado, a reporter who has been covering far-right groups for Bay Area public radio station KQED, told us the violence at recent alt-right demonstrations has been used to recruit, and when “antifa” shows up to fight them it can play into their game plan. “They’re turning the traditional desire for objectivity by the media on its head,” he told us.

Citing a lyric from rapper Jay Z’s song “Takeover” that says, “A wise man told me don’t argue with fools, cause people from a distance can’t tell who is who,” Sepulvado told us the pattern of inciting violence at rallies from the alt-right has gone this way:



Announce an event that’s going to piss everyone who has common sense off, something so outrageous it’s going to piss 99 percent of the population off, then when someone gets on Twitter [and threatens them], send out a press release saying, “we can’t practice our free speech rights because of leftist violence.” Then show up anyway. They have canceled so many rallies that they showed up at anyway and still rallied. The “threat of leftist violence” means they need to wear body armor and bring weapons. If it’s an open carry state they’ll have [firearms]. If it’s not an open carry state they’ll bring firecrackers and sticks.

And then when someone… pushes them or spits on them, they’ll use that as an excuse to strike out. Then the leftists will strike out, and the media won’t know who’s who.



The important distinction, he said, is that “the leftists aren’t organizing the protests.” They’re just responding to them. Sepulvado added:


You know [the alt-right] is guiltiest when they say, “look at them, we’re not the only ones.” They’re not arguing whether the [car attack] was actually committed, they’re just trying to bring everyone down in the muck with them. This is like a bottom feeding monster trying to convince the world that dolphins are ugly creatures.



http://www.snopes.com/2017/08/17/are-antifa-and-the-alt-right-equally-violent/
No. 16     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  sweetmusicman   Gender: M   Age: 42   on  Aug 18, 2017 at 1:24 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

Bullfighter279 wrote:

sweetmusicman wrote:

So the recent(Saturday) Nazi,KKK and Alt-Right in Charlotte'sville didn't happened and it's all a lie/hoax? It's all a ploy by Democrats and the MSM to get at Trump?


I noticed you left out the ultra racist far left Antifa and BLM groups.

Why???


I think it is fairly obvious. He is not interested in truth; he is only interested in leftist agenda, though like many SJW's he tries to mask it with pseudo-intelligent questions and comments.

He may even believe in his delusions - the leftist ground troops often do.

As I said elsewhere...canon-fodder.



I'm fully capable of drawing my own conclusions thank you very much, unlike the sheeple on the Right. When Trump and Faux tell you that the moon is actually Green you all fall over and start worshipping them.
No. 17     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Aug 18, 2017 at 2:38 PM     
More information to counter the false propaganda of the Left -

LEFT Preparing To Plunge America Into 2nd Civil War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sGtR5p3sOs



No. 18     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 64   on  Aug 18, 2017 at 2:39 PM     
Hey Randal, glad to see you back posting on Political. The stakes are higher than ever before, so stick around.
No. 19     Reply: Re: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 18, 2017 at 4:29 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:



On Native populations, I have difficulty believing these figures. First the stats from 2013 show only a .05% other:

Race/Ethnicity
White 14,137 29.1% Total Population: 8,173,563 63.5%
Black 28,190 57.9% 1,887,329 14.7%
Hispanic 6,059 12.5% 2,121,248 16.5%
Other 266 0.5% 699,995 5.4%


http://www.icjia.org/cjreform2015/research/illinois-prison-overview.html

The second percentage accounts for total population. Native Americans typical fall under 'other' in gov stats.


Secondly, Native Americans have different jurisdiction provisions than other nationalities. Prosecution standards and their own justice system exist, while it is true that outside crimes that fall under federal or state jurisdiction are punishable by our courts, there are governing policies that differ as seen in the link below. Non-major crimes are often transferred back to Tribal Jurisdiction (and most often fought for by Native Americans by Native attorneys).

http://www.tribal-institute.org/lists/jurisdiction.htm

Third, although the census claims over 100,000 Native Americans in IL in 2010, the gov have lumped some Asian communities in with Native due to secular teachings on race.

In comparison to other nationalities, Native Americans are not in great numbers, since the US partial genocide of the Native Nations.

https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-10.pdf

The alleged Native pop convicts at a high number represented in this graph are just very difficult to belief (not that I believe stats show the true picture anyway knowing they can be skewed for one's political agenda and they do not take into account of the number of innocent/wrongly charged citizens [of all nationalities]).

I've seen and studied credible statistics suggesting there is a larger number of blacks, Mexicans and perhaps Natives (rather than whites) that are in prison/jails for lower-grade drug crimes, whereas there are more whites responsible for the larger crimes of murder, serial murders and pedophilia.

Not what one wants to hear as a citizen of European decent, but facts are facts when considering death roll inmates for the most heinous crimes.

I'm not in this thread for quarrel or to argue the suggestion of racial hoaxes or not. I know racism is an issue for both blacks and whites as well as other nationalities.

As some might know here, I won a case for white discrimination in employment. It was a horrendous battle, since my family have members of the differently assigned categories by the gov. of 'race.' I only know humans have different national origins (but are one race).

Mod to add: BF -- this is nothing personal against you (but you probably already know this. It's just difficult to belief the stats given from the article).
No. 22     Reply: Re: Re: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 62   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 9:59 AM     
CAsandie wrote:

I've seen and studied credible statistics suggesting there is a larger number of blacks, Mexicans and perhaps Natives (rather than whites) that are in prison/jails for lower-grade drug crimes, whereasthere are more whites responsible for the larger crimes of murder, serial murders and pedophilia.

Leftist media and academic lies. More blacks are in prison because MORE BLACKS COMMIT FELONIES, many of them violent. One only needs to see videos of 50 blacks raiding a store to steal things followed by no reporting about it that night at all to acquire a feeling for what is going on in America.
No. 23     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 62   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 10:05 AM     
This one is called,

The Great American Racism Hoax - (remix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBLD2rYo4Tc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBLD2rYo4Tc

- Twice because video not showing up. Might be just my browser.

[ Modified OP to change for revised video, posted above. This version required an additional 15 hours in an attempt to make it more interesting and useful. Yet the reviews are kind of already known from here (original version), another site posted at and even at home. NOBODY likes the presentation. Sorry for being boring or dumb, speaking too slowly, arrogance whatever failings.

I might take it down out of trying to avoid looking like a dummy. But for now I want the title out there as a billboard because people are getting beaten and sometimes murdered on the streets based on liars convincing 90% of the population to swallow hateful propaganda about racism history and racism current events. Most of those who do know the truth and dare saying anything are falsely accused of white supremacy. Dangerous thing going on. ]
No. 24     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 24, 2017 at 10:34 AM     
your video was good. spoken from the heart; not scripted!

the global funded anarchist groups espouse violence against
ANY ONE who is productive/employable... & the anarchist libtard
devils just want more free shyyt and expect all of us to pay for it.
No. 25     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 8:21 PM     
Looks like DC Comics is delving into the political arena now...brainwash the kids at an early age with false "white supremacist" propaganda...

Superman Shields Illegal Immigrants from White Supremacist in Latest DC Comic

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/09/13/in-new-comic-superman-beats-up-white-people-for-attacking-illegal-aliens/


Superman steps in to save a group of illegal immigrants from a white supremacist upset about losing his job in the latest Man of Steel comic from DC Comics, due out in stores this week.


No. 26     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 8:44 PM     
Protesters Toting Black Lives Matter Signs Cover UVA’s Thomas Jefferson Statue in Black Shroud



http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/09/13/protesters-toting-black-lives-matter-signs-cover-uvas-thomas-jefferson-statue/
No. 27     Reply: Re: The Great American Racism Hoax - an audio commentary   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 13, 2017 at 9:36 PM     
Outrage as well-known rapper 'lynches' small white child in music video

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/09/13/rap-video-showing-child-being-hanged-causes-uproar.html