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No. 0     Original Topic:  No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Jan 13, 2017 at 6:56 AM   Viewed 3824 times     
There is no true knowledge of God ... if there is no conversion in Christ.

No. 1     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Verbatim   Gender: F   Age: 64   on  Jan 13, 2017 at 11:36 AM     
I'm tweeking your one liner RPM, so it makes more sense to me.

"There is no knowledge of God, if there is no true conversion in Christ Jesus Lord."

The Bible tells us there are four conversions.



Matthew 13.18-23

Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.


Received teachings from a false teacher

When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

Apostate

But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it; Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

Worldly

He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.

True Biblical follower of Lord Jesus

But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it ; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.


Some who think they are converted aren't converted at all!
They grow among the wheat.

No. 2     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Jan 14, 2017 at 12:28 PM     
Verbatim wrote:

"There is no knowledge of God, if there is no true conversion in Christ Jesus Lord."



Now ... that's a good tweek ... right there !

Thank You Verbatim !

Goes to show how we can work together to polish up something ! :2thumbs:

:goodpost:
No. 3     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Feb 1, 2017 at 9:37 AM     
There is a vast difference in knowing God versus simply knowing of God.
No. 4     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 1, 2017 at 10:39 AM     
Survivor698 wrote:

There is a vast difference in knowing God versus simply knowing of God.



Amen Survivor ... Amen ! :thumb_up:
No. 5     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  BorrowedAngel52   Gender: F   Age: 64   on  Feb 1, 2017 at 8:41 PM     
Ohh Survivor...I second, and third that statement! AMEN! Thank you!
No. 6     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 72   on  Feb 2, 2017 at 12:45 AM     
RadioPreacherMan wrote:

There is no true knowledge of God ... if there is no conversion in Christ.



We will never come to the true knowledge of God fully, partially possible if we sought it with diligence and devotion.
No. 7     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 2, 2017 at 4:27 AM     
We will never come to the true knowledge of God fully,

In this life we live today you are correct.
No. 8     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Feb 2, 2017 at 8:25 AM     
Devaprakash wrote:

RadioPreacherMan wrote:

There is no true knowledge of God ... if there is no conversion in Christ.



We will never come to the true knowledge of God fully, partially possible if we sought it with diligence and devotion.


Likely true as far as knowing all there is to know. Otherwise for what we are meant to understand, God's Word says we need to simply see and listen.
No. 9     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 2, 2017 at 4:59 PM     
:popcorn:
No. 10     Reply: Re: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 3, 2017 at 7:09 AM     
Otherwise for what we are meant to understand

thats the key statement that is overlooked by many.

God's Word says we need to simply see and listen.

No its not just that simple as you state. We all see and hear yet dont understand. Whats the point in seeing and hearing if you still dont understand. Its the same problem the disciples had until Jesus finally let them understand.
One little detail that most disregard and thats that seeing and hearing WITH UNDERSTANDING comes by Jesus letting you understand. It is not a freewill choice to understand what you see and hear.
No. 11     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 3, 2017 at 9:57 AM     
:wavey: :Hole:
No. 12     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Feb 3, 2017 at 10:27 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Otherwise for what we are meant to understand

thats the key statement that is overlooked by many.

God's Word says we need to simply see and listen.

No its not just that simple as you state. We all see and hear yet dont understand. Whats the point in seeing and hearing if you still dont understand. Its the same problem the disciples had until Jesus finally let them understand.
One little detail that most disregard and thats that seeing and hearing WITH UNDERSTANDING comes by Jesus letting you understand. It is not a freewill choice to understand what you see and hear.


The parable is the same with people today as it was then. Per His own Words Jesus did not simply let the disciples understand. They understood because they accepted Him as the Messiah IE: "8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold". Ironically, even when shared in a parable, appears it is not really grasped until one has the faith to accept Jesus as the Messiah.

Of course all that have no hearing defect audibly/physically hear. But as Jesus expressed, it was not simply audible hearing that brings understanding. You have to take the Scriptures in context and grasp that

8 But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


are Scriptures having greater meaning than audibly hearing. Those that accept Jesus as the Messiah acquire Spiritual hearing leading to understanding.

It never dawned on me that you were possibly taking His Word to simply mean only audibly hearing.

I would suggest reading Matthew 13 fully, several times.
No. 13     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 3, 2017 at 10:53 AM     
it was not simply audible hearing that brings understanding. You have to take the Scriptures in context and grasp that

Well we can certainly agree on that one becuase thats why the disciples didnt understand. but I already grasped that yrs ago. But it wouldn't hurt you to inform the other christians of that who listen to the audible teachings of their human sinful preachers in their local churches around the corner every week.
No. 14     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Feb 3, 2017 at 11:01 AM     
I will clarify and repost this with supporting Scripture later. Out of time at the moment.
No. 15     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 3, 2017 at 4:16 PM     
ok
No. 16     Reply: Re: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Feb 3, 2017 at 7:54 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

I will clarify and repost this with supporting Scripture later. Out of time at the moment.


Actually, now that I have read your last post to Kari in the other thread, I am not sure I see any reason to continue this.

I know what I know, I know what God's Word clearly shares, and I understand. You claim to know what God's Word says, but obviously do not accept His Word as written, thus do not understand.

What is the point in continuing such a debate?
No. 17     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 3, 2017 at 9:08 PM     
becuase I know you have scriptures but those scriptures do not stand alone and I feel you take them as they do which is misleading. I will find some examples tomorrow casue im heading to bed soon. Im not feeling so good tonight and feel tired.

As far as Kari, Kari has attitude issues with me and i dont deserve it. This is like the third time lately she has been rude to me when I wasn't even talking to her and I dont know why she's doing it. she jsut comes and makes her snide comments which causes an arguemnt, which is obviously her hearts desire, and its very irritating to me. I don't even care why she is doing it, its still wrong. For someone who claims to love God she sure has a funny way of showing it. It reminds me of the verse in the bible that says people honor him with their lips but their hearts are far from him.
No. 18     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Feb 4, 2017 at 7:18 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

becuase I know you have scriptures but those scriptures do not stand alone and I feel you take them as they do which is misleading. I will find some examples tomorrow casue im heading to bed soon. Im not feeling so good tonight and feel tired.


That is not accurate. I do quite the opposite, not taking Scripture as it stands alone. I take Scripture in context as a whole. And I have proven that.
No. 19     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 4, 2017 at 8:32 AM     
Alright
No. 20     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Kari   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Feb 4, 2017 at 5:24 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

becuase I know you have scriptures but those scriptures do not stand alone and I feel you take them as they do which is misleading. I will find some examples tomorrow casue im heading to bed soon. Im not feeling so good tonight and feel tired.

As far as Kari, Kari has attitude issues with me and i dont deserve it. This is like the third time lately she has been rude to me when I wasn't even talking to her and I dont know why she's doing it. she jsut comes and makes her snide comments which causes an arguemnt, which is obviously her hearts desire, and its very irritating to me. I don't even care why she is doing it, its still wrong. For someone who claims to love God she sure has a funny way of showing it. It reminds me of the verse in the bible that says people honor him with their lips but their hearts are far from him.


well, since you referenced me, and twisted anything I was doing, and actually have lied, I will say something.

I did respond to a thread, and did direct my comments to you, since it was your thread and I was answering you. I wasn't rude or snide. I was honest but loving. I was firm but loving. I was more patient with your remarks back than I even should have been. You twist and you turn, and you look for negative if we don't agree with your theology, Roxanne.

But, that's ok. The truth is shared with you by myself and many members here that say what I say, but your choice is to reject that and find fault in us. Like I said, it's sad that you can't see clearly or hear clearly.

I have no issues with you whatsoever, no matter what you think or say about me. I know you are coming from an angry place. It's hard to hear things that you don't want to hear. So I'm good with it.

But accusing members who try to help you is wrong. Every one always is so kind to you, including me.... you try and make us angry by lying, twisting, and running our character down. But it doesn't work. We have the joy and the peace you need, the peace you could have if you let Christ in.

sooooooo, carry on. I pray for you. also, adding, I am so sorry you lost your cat yesterday. I know how painful that is :hug:


take care ... ~Kari
No. 21     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 4, 2017 at 6:46 PM     
what thread did you answer kari. You did not answer me in the comments in fact you were responding to another comment by another memeber who were not so nice to me and agreeing with them in your remarks. You have done this several times in the last two days minus today. I have no idea why. If your comments cannot be worthy keep them to yourself. End of story. I dont like people who irritate people on purpose jsut becuase they can and laugh about it. Its not funny to me.

No. 22     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 7, 2017 at 5:12 AM     
:group_prayer:

No. 23     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 8:14 AM     
They understood because they accepted Him as the Messiah IE:

But thats not what the bible says. It says, Because it is given to you [the disciples] to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them [the people or listeners] it is NOT GIVEN. Matt 13:11

The LORD has to give you a heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear. Thats the only way to have ears to hear and eyes to see and understand.
No. 24     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 8:57 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

They understood because they accepted Him as the Messiah IE:

But thats not what the bible says. It says, Because it is given to you [the disciples] to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them [the people or listeners] it is NOT GIVEN. Matt 13:11

The LORD has to give you a heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear. Thats the only way to have ears to hear and eyes to see and understand.


It was given unto them because they accepted Him.

Accept Scripture in context.

Matthew 13 essentially shares it is given unto anyone whom accepts Jesus as the Messiah.
No. 25     Reply: Re: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 63   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 12:50 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

texascowgirl283 wrote:

They understood because they accepted Him as the Messiah IE:

But thats not what the bible says. It says, Because it is given to you [the disciples] to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them [the people or listeners] it is NOT GIVEN. Matt 13:11

The LORD has to give you a heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear. Thats the only way to have ears to hear and eyes to see and understand.


It was given unto them because they accepted Him.

Accept Scripture in context.

Matthew 13 essentially shares it is given unto anyone whom accepts Jesus as the Messiah.


Yes, it is strange how the scriptures are so clear, yet many still do not understand - "Behold, I stand at the door and knock: if any man hear my voice and open the door, I will come in to him" Rev.3:20

Yet some ignore that you have to open the door and let Him in!
No. 26     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 1:49 PM     
:group_prayer:
No. 27     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 5:22 PM     
Storm no one is going to so called open the door without God being the cause. No man does that of their own doing. You want to delete God out of the picture and u take credit for all and u just can't do that. God gets all credit u get none.
Don't u get it. It is lying preachers that teach people to take credit themselves instead of giving credit to God where it belongs.
No. 28     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 63   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 6:11 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Storm no one is going to so called open the door without God being the cause. No man does that of their own doing. You want to delete God out of the picture and u take credit for all and u just can't do that. God gets all credit u get none.
Don't u get it. It is lying preachers that teach people to take credit themselves instead of giving credit to God where it belongs.


Other than the out-of-context 'lying preachers' comment, you are quite right.

God is the cause. He loved us first.

And so he knocks on our doors...first. We still have to answer...or not.

Hear that knocking at your door? Why are you wasting time here?

Answer it.
No. 29     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 6:18 PM     
I'll bring this from the one liner post in this forum ... here it is ...

When God acts ... we can respond ... in favor or against ... His act.

Okay ... may we go back to praying.

:group_prayer:
No. 30     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 6:29 PM     
Storm u are not going to answer UNTIL GOD SAYS YOU ARE not because u say u are.
And I'm wasting time here as YOU say because God has me here.

All are called storm few chosen but eventually all will be chosen and it is not u who chooses him. It's him that chooses u.
No. 31     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 7:10 PM     
RadioPreacherMan wrote:

I'll bring this from the one liner post in this forum ... here it is ...

When God acts ... we can respond ... in favor or against

It isn't ur choosing. That's why what ur saying is wrong.
No. 32     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 7:10 PM     
RadioPreacherMan wrote:

There is no true knowledge of God ... if there is no conversion in Christ.



Worth Repeating ☺
No. 33     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 7:13 PM     
:group_prayer:
No. 34     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 63   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 7:14 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:


And I'm wasting time here as YOU say because God has me here.



He has you here to learn, not to preach. And He's still knocking on your door but He won't pound on it and He won't knock forever.
No. 35     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 7:23 PM     
Your knowledge is based on freewill of man but freewill of man doesn't exist except in ur own eyes. Freewill of man is taught by ravening wolves in sheep's clothing and it's pure deceit.

I cannot make you see that. Only God can take ur blindfold off.
No. 36     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 63   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 7:53 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Your knowledge is based on freewill of man but freewill of man doesn't exist except in ur own eyes. Freewill of man is taught by ravening wolves in sheep's clothing and it's pure deceit.

I cannot make you see that. Only God can take ur blindfold off.


And YOUR knowledge is described by the OP -

"There is no true knowledge of God ... if there is no conversion in Christ."


Sorry, I'll stick to mine, for I know it has a great ending.
No. 37     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 8:22 PM     
Storm ur very prideful but it will get u nowhere and fast.
No. 38     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 8:35 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

ur very prideful but it will get u nowhere and fast.



Please be careful TCG ...

Your comment comes back and bites you in the behind.

Can't you see what you " accuse " ... is what you are guilty of ??

Something to Ponder ...

Okay ... time for me to stop for now :Hole:

But still praying ... along with others ... :group_prayer:


No. 39     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 8:39 PM     
Can't u and storm see it comes back to bite u in the butt too. That's something for u to ponder. U think ur all wise and I must follow u or put up with ur bad comments if I dont. but ur not wise at all.
No. 40     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 10:26 PM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

All are called storm few chosen but eventually all will be chosen and it is not u who chooses him. It's him that chooses u.


As Scripture shares, and as it was with Paul/Saul, when one accepts Jesus as the Messiah the "blinders" fall off.
No. 41     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 8, 2017 at 11:02 PM     
Saul never accepted nothing. Go read again on how Saul became paul
No. 42     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 9, 2017 at 5:13 AM     
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No. 43     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 10, 2017 at 2:05 AM     
Survivor Christianity preachers teach against these verses because they are in into freewill of man because they think they are so good and can do what God says they cannot do. It is the ignorance of extremely prideful liars. Freewill of man teaches the crucifixion of Christ meant absoultely nothing. But here is what it really means

Rom 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

All mankind WILL repent and accept Jesus as their Lord and Master and Saviour Phil. 2:9-11, and this is ONLY possible by the work of the HOLY SPIRIT See I Cor. 12:3.

Did you catch that? the work of the holy spirit not the work of man and his freewill choice foolishness. Do you know why preachers deceive people? because God put lying spirits in the mouth's of prophets and where can you find them? ALL IN THE WORLD. You cannot see and hear true knowledge as long as freewill of man is embedded in your mind by ravening wolves that are all in the world. anyone who teaches freewill of man is ignorant of the scriptures.

People constantly telling me we make our own choices well we do have a mind of our own BUT what we decide to do is caused by a higher source and that higher source is God. Those ravening wolf Preachers love to eliminate God out of our choices/decisions and they are so wrong for doing that but its their top priority to deceive the sheep. It is them that deceived the whole world. But I cannot make you or anyone else see, hear and understand this...only God can open your eyes to the falsehoods that's been taught to you by those lying ravening wolves in sheeps clothing.

How come I know this? I guess God let me see and hear. There is no other way I could know. God had to let me see, hear and understand concerning what I asked him. But yet my eyes are not opened to everything. No one will know everything in this life about God. One day I asked God in private to show me how he could be so cruel as the Christians teach and what I speak today in here is what he let me see and understand concerning salvation and hellfire. And he showed me the same day right after asking him. It was like a light bulb turned on in my head and I could see falsehood after falsehood after falsehood in Christianity's hellfire and salvation teachings. I know people don't believe me about God letting me see, hear and understand and its because they think God will only help them because they do everything for God that God says they can't do of themselves and not me because I disagree with them and its really a prideful thing to think, but God did help me see, hear and understand what I asked him to show me. I was stressed out about what Christianity was teaching and God knew it and comforted me by showing me the truth when I asked for his help.

And guess what. When God warned they were all in te world he meant it. It isn't just in the physical church building people visit every week, its everywhere. We have one right here in this very site posting himself floating on his soft comfy clouds with a smile beucase he chose the right choices in life, based on his freewill choice complete and utter ignorance.

Why hasn't God let you all see yet? All I know is everything in order. He will eventually open the eyes and ears of all men when he's ready to do so.

No. 44     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 10, 2017 at 5:58 AM     
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No. 45     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 10, 2017 at 9:07 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

I know people don't believe me about God letting me see, hear and understand ...

but God did help me see, hear and understand what I asked him to show me.

I was stressed out about what Christianity was teaching and God knew it and comforted me by showing me the truth when I asked for his help.



TCG ...

I am working at the shop today ... so I do not have the time right now to share some things with you, but I did notice you stated in the quote above ...

" I was stressed out " ... and then ... being " comforted. "

Please know ... I do not have any desire to come across as a know-it-all or even being wise ... but ... I had something come to me that may be interesting for you to read about ... which is " false peace. "

Again, my time is limited for now ... and I will not be able to discuss it with you at this time ... but if you wish to google the words " false peace " and click the " Bible Hub " webpage ... maybe this will give you some time to check it out for yourself first ( before any other discussion takes place ).

Yes, there is such a thing as " false peace."

Okay ... gotta go ... but if you do decide to read it ... may God bless you in doing so.

See Ya Later !

No. 46     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 10, 2017 at 9:40 AM     
Save it. I don't want to hear u lie to me telling me God didn't bring me comfort by showing me what's real. You can preach all day long about how God don't bring comfort to man. It won't change the fact that he does and did for me that day about what concerned me and u have no right to say he didn't. And if u even think of telling anyone that God didn't bring them comfort than I suggest u start repenting immediately.

but if you wish to google the words " false peace "

I have a better idea, why don't you go google "Christ is our comforter"
No. 47     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 10, 2017 at 10:53 AM     
Okay TCG ...

If you don't want to read it ... that's your " choice."

Sorry ... I did not mean to hit a nerve ... no need to go any farther in discussing this topic of " false hope " with you ... if you say " no " ... again ... it's your choice.

But ... as time permits ... I will be sharing some information about it ... and you are always welcome to comment ... if you decide to do so.

No. 48     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 10, 2017 at 1:07 PM     
I did not mean to hit a nerve

Sure you did that's why you said what you did. It was your conclusion that I have false hope and false peace beucase I was shown things that you apparently haven't yet. How dare I disagree with you huh rpm. You think God comforting me is my false hope?? Your judgment of me is incorrect but according to you, you're never wrong right. You're a preacher and cannot be wrong and we must listen to the ravening wolf right. :icon_rolleyes: You are a jerk rpm. I cannot help what God has opened my eyes and ears to and I could care less of your unqualified opinion that any comfort and knowledge from God given to me is just your idea of false hope and false peace. It would do you good to stop accusing God's working in people a false anything even if you don't believe he did anything for that person.
No. 49     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 10, 2017 at 4:19 PM     
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No. 50     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 10, 2017 at 5:06 PM     
Ya it's that time for both of us. At least we can agree on that. Sorry I called u a jerk.
No. 51     Reply: Re: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 11, 2017 at 6:49 AM     
texascowgirl283 wrote:

Ya it's that time for both of us. At least we can agree on that.

Sorry I called u a jerk.



Yep ! We are both doing pretty good at " knowing when to stop."

And ... we do agree on that ! :thumb_up:

It doesn't bother me to be called a jerk ... and your apology is appreciated. I believe both of us know we still have our " human moments " ... when we both know ... we need to stop and take a look at how we are responding ... or coming across ... to someone.

The ( ............. Silence ................ ) reply I make is a way of helping me to stop and take a look at how I am coming across to others.

As far as the topic of " false peace " ... I did bring it up ... where both of us can examine " what it is " ... and then come to our own conclusions on how we all can be affected by it.

If you thought I was directing the topic of false peace at you personally, please accept my apology ... but I did bring it up ... to see if you were " open " to taking a look at it ... if nothing else ... to get your thoughts about it.

I believe I am being as honest as I can be ... and yes ... I did wonder if you ever had any experiences with " false peace " ... for I know I have in the past.

As we go along in life ... it's healthy for us to " examine " what does happen and pray God will enlighten us ... to help us see and understand ... and yes ... to comfort us as truth is being revealed.

I'm still open to discuss " false peace " with anyone ... and you are included if you have any thoughts about it.

Who knows ... people may actually see how they have been influenced by false peace. Truth does have a way of " stirring us up " before we come to a place of accepting it ... so I do my best to wait it out until people have some time to work it out with the Good Lord.

I will admit ... I did wonder if you, TCG, have had any issues with false peace ... for again ... I know I have gone through it myself.

No. 52     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 11, 2017 at 9:31 AM     
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No. 53     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 11, 2017 at 11:30 AM     
When God does something for me, I well know it and I know why. But you talk false peace because you don't like the idea that God would help me when I asked for his help becuase anyone who disagrees with you and your freewill foolishness, you believe God wouldn't help which resulted in your false peace comment. It is also a sin to tell people God didn't or wouldn't help someone or try to lead them to believe God didn't help them. Your trying to turn me away from God because I don't believe in freewill of man and its never going to work. God did let me see and understand about salvation and hellfire just as I asked. It matters none to me if you belive God let me see or not. I know he did. And him letting me see is not up for debate.
No. 54     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 11, 2017 at 11:51 AM     
:smile: Okee ... Doekee ... TCG ... :biggrin:

Another discussion coming to an end between us on this topic.

Maybe on another topic ... :Hole:
No. 55     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 50   on  Feb 11, 2017 at 11:54 AM     
ok Thank you.
No. 56     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Feb 11, 2017 at 11:57 AM     
You are welcome.
No. 57     Reply: Re: No True Knowledge of God ...   
By:  RadioPreacherMan   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Apr 6, 2017 at 5:59 PM     
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