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By: Becca288 Gender: F Age: 36 on Sep 12, 2015 at 2:28 AM Viewed 7901 times
| It's a question of authority and there's only two choices
God or man: God's truth or man's textual criticism coupled together with their subjective spiritual experiences
'No Bible is My Final Authority, God is!' says the Bible agnostic and/or mystic, whose final authority then becomes themselves by default, because you can't know God without his word. You can protest and say that I am wrong, but the fact of the matter is the Bible, the holy men of God who wrote God's word, the Holy Spirit, and God himself all prove you wrong, by the word of God.
A Bible agnostic and/or mystic is forced to rely on themselves to discern between good and evil spirits, not relying on God or the Holy Spirit, because they don't believe a more sure word of prophecy exists outside of their personal spiritual experience. That's spiritually dangerous for the individual who doesn't believe the pure and inerrant word of God exists. They have no proof that what they are experiencing is from the Holy Spirit or from the Devil, because they have no final authority except their experience and feelings.
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?.
- Jeremiah 17:9
He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.
- Proverbs 28:26
Man's own heart and feelings are not the Holy Spirit. Man's interpretation, then, becomes a private interpretation and is not from the Holy Spirit. This is why you have a lot of New Age ideas flooding into the churches now a days - they all trust in a spiritual experience in place of God's word, and they believe their experience is of the Holy Spirit, but it isn't, it's just their flesh being led by the Devil.
The Devil Is A Liar
The Devil twists Scripture, and challenges Christians like he did Jesus Christ. Unless you know what God actually said, you won't know what was the truth and what was the lie by some spiritual experience you perceived to be the Holy Spirit. The only way to know what God said for sure is by reading God's words, but first you have to realize that God did perfectly preserve his words for us to go to, to gain true understanding so we could have true discernment of the spirits.
Only God's words are from the Holy Spirit, who guides us into all truth by using God's word, not your heart or your mind nor a sketchy-at-best spiritual experience apart from God's holy word!
If your heart, mind, or spiritual experience is wrong, which happens more frequently than people will care to admit, or even realize - but look at the state of the church and all the worldly and New Age garbage and modern Bible per-Versions that have infiltrated the church and you can plainly see how it has devastated them - then the only way to find out is by checking your heart, mind, and spiritual experience by what God has actually written in his word; otherwise, you are left with guessing, and worse: believing your guesses to be from the Holy Spirit, when they may actually be from the Devil! This is how many Christians have been led astray from the truth, and even away from the Truth. Which brings me to my next point...
The Word is the word made flesh
Many Christians don't realize their is a difference, that God makes a distinction between the word of God and the Word of God, in his word. One is his written word, which is his book, which we have contained in the KJV, and the other is Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who is the Word made flesh. It is poor exegesis of Scripture that leads people into swapping out the lower-case "w" for the upper-case "w". Since God wrote his word, he knows if he wants a lower case or an upper case "w". Thinking God is mistaken, or that you know better because you're trusting in your heart, which you mistakenly believe to be the Holy Spirit, or a textual critic, rather than in God's word for discernment, makes you your own final authority, not God, and certainly not the true Holy Spirit!
If the Holy Spirit were your final authority, then you would accept God's holy word, and not be a Bible agnostic and/or mystic. The only way to discern and test the spirits, to see whether it is from God or not, is to read and understand God's word. You can't read Jesus, but you can read the book that contain his words. If you throw that option out the window, then all you have left are your feelings; how a spiritual situation feels to you. That is mysticism, my friends, not obeying the Holy Spirit, nor obeying God's Word!
A lot of "Christians" practice witchcraft and mysticism. I wouldn't recommend it at all.
God Loves His Children
In truth, no man can know what truth is unless they read God's actual word, and then understand it, which understanding is given by the Holy Spirit, Who is only given to those who believe on Jesus Christ.
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
48 And ye are witnesses of these things.
49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.
And if you think a person can know God's word by guessing at it through some vague spiritual experience, then you don't understand God's character of love. He would never leave his children without his word. The loving Father doesn't make his children guess about what he said and what he meant. He wrote it down and preserved his words, and expects us to study it to show ourselves approved before him, and a workman who doesn't need to be ashamed because we rightly divided the word of truth. The Bible even says this plainly, and it's clearly not talking about rightly dividing Jesus Christ. So you need to realize the difference between when God is talking about his book and when God is talking about his Son, or you're not going to understand very much, and the Devil's gonna take advantage of that and attack you - I speak from personal experience, because I was once a Bible agnostic/mystic myself. Now I cherish God's written word. I cherish the Word of God even more, now that I know him better through his written word. His word is precious to me (Proverbs 3) - through it I can know my God! That is how I came to know the gospel of grace and how much he loved me.
Every word of God
There are no capital "w"'s in the following verses:
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
- 2 Timothy 2:15
To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
- Isaiah 8:20
And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
- John 20:30-31
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
- Romans 10:17
As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby.
- 1 Peter 2:2
Thy words are found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.
- Jeremiah 15:16
Give us day by day our daily bread.
- Luke 11:3
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
- John 6:63
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
- Hebrews 4:12
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
- John 17:17
16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
Hmmm, I don't know what the Bible agnostics and mystics are going to do with this next verse, because there isn't more than one Jesus!
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
- Proverbs 30:5-6
Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail
- Isaiah 34:16
Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
- Hebrews 10:7
So, you mean there's actually a literal book? Why yes, yes there is. Let's continue...
Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
- John 18:37
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
- John 8:47
Jesus and his apostles were constantly quoting from the Old Testament: God's word, which he has preserved for us today, along with the New Testament, if you can receive the truth.
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him; the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
- John 12:48
The Holy Bible is not merely a book we are left to throw guesses at. It contains the very words of God that anyone can hold in their hands and read for themselves, and it is the book by which all men are going to be judged by, because it has the very words of God in it, so Christians had better learn it.
There is no other means by which we can know what God truly said than by his own word, which he had holy men of God write down for all our sakes. That is exactly what one would expect from the loving Creator, who commands us to do all of his words. How can we do all of his words, if we don't even think we have all of his words - well, I will agree that you certainly don't have them in the Vatican per-Versions! If someone chooses themselves as their final authority in all matters of faith and practice, and not God's actual words, then they're in deep trouble with God, who has said that we should have no other gods before him.
The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law. - Deuteronomy 29:29
Our Daily Bread
God's word is our daily bread. The words of God are spirit and life to the hearer and doer.
10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews.
11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
12 Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few.
1 These are also proverbs of Solomon, which the men of Hezekiah king of Judah copied out.
2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old.
- Matthew 13:52
It Is Written
The words, "It is written" occurs in 93 verses of the holy Bible.
Do you think God wants us to read his book and submit to his authority, or do you think he wants us to trust in our own subjective reasoning based on textual criticism and spiritual experiences, which by default makes us our own authority, and worse yet, a tyrannical authority over God's word. (Genesis 3; Isaiah 14).
I pray that God will help you to see the truth.
The proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel;
2 To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding;
3 To receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, and judgment, and equity;
4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.
5 A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
6 To understand a proverb, and the interpretation; the words of the wise, and their dark sayings.
7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
8 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
9 For they shall be an ornament of grace unto thy head, and chains about thy neck.
1 Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,
2 Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
3 It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.
2 Peter 1:
16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
2 Timothy 3:
10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?
- Ecclesiastes 8:4
mod to add a few more verses
Reply: Re: It's a question of authority and there's only two choices
By: CAsandie Gender: F Age: 48 on Sep 15, 2015 at 1:32 PM
| Very good post (suitable for theo as well).
Reply: Re: It's a question of authority and there's only two choices
By: Becca288 Gender: F Age: 36 on Sep 20, 2015 at 6:16 AM
| Do you know how you read God's word, and then you read it again, and something new jumps out at you? I think every Christian experiences this phenomenon.
Just today I came across more interesting things that I want to share here.
1) Paul asks for "the books, but especially the parchments", in 2 Timothy 4:13.
a) Could "the books" be the law and the prophets and the psalms, which we know the Israelites had back then?
"And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." - Luke 24:44
b) Could "the parchments" be the New Testament books in their beginning state, not yet made into bound books?
When I searched for a timeline of Paul's life, I found a a visual overview that puts the book of 2 Timothy as the last book Paul wrote before he was martyred - somewhere around 66 or 67 A.D.
Maybe, being led by God and knowing he was going to be martyred soon, he wanted to collect all the books, but especially the parchments together, making sure to leave the correct parchments with those he knew would be faithful in keeping them and copying them word for word for future generations. I don't know, but his words make me wonder.
From history, we do know that the Christian churches had the Traditional text from as early as the second century.
2) Daniel says he understands the prophecy God gave to Jeremiah because "by books" in Daniel 9:2
Proving that, even the holy prophets of God read and relied on God's written word to know the truth, and didn't rely on spiritual experiences.
Not only that, but we find the Israelites turning to their holy books numerous times in the Old Testament. They had the holy prophets, but they also read the word of God. I suspect that by reading God's word, they would be able to know which prophet was from God and which was a liar. Same as today: we read God's word to have proper spiritual discernment.
Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he. - Proverbs 29:18
3) How long has it been since anyone has read Jeremiah 36 or Jeremiah 51?
How is it that we have the words which were written to Jehoiakim in Jeremiah 36?
How is it that we have the words which were written to Babylon in Jeremiah 51?
I hear textual critics say that "only the originals are God's inspired infallible words." Well, I have bad news for them. The originals deteriorated long ago, and, in a couple cases, as in the book of Jeremiah, one original was cut up with a penknife and thrown into a fire, and the other, God told Jeremiah to "bind a stone to it, and cast it into the midst of Euphrates." :shock:
And yet, we have both of those chapters safe and sound and just as good as the originals, and even better, in the case of Jeremiah 36, because God added to the original.
The "originals" argument has lots of holes in it.
4) I think the Bible is not just a book, but a legal document.
"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." - Revelation 20:12
If so, then there is no way that God would allow any part of his word to get lost, especially if people are going to be judged by it. God is just. He would never hid the very thing he was going to judge people by. He wants everyone to read it and understand it. It's the law. I think people forget that God is the King of kings and he has a Kingdom, and he has laws..., which is really awesome when you think about it.
Christians have a King and country, and it is The King and his kingdom: the kingdom of God.
It makes me feel very patriotic.
I used to be very sad thinking that I had no country where I felt like I belonged, or wanted to belong; thinking also, I had no leader who I really could support or trust 100%. As a Christian, I don't have this sadness anymore. God is my King and Heaven is my country. Praise God!
5) God uses "Word" and "word" in the same chapter. Making the difference between his Son and his written word, and in this case the gospel, specifically, which can be written or spoken (more on that in #6), obvious. I love these little clues hidden throughout God's word, pointing us, instructing us in how to properly understand what we're reading. It's great! Glory to God!
1 John 1:
THAT which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
4 And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
6) "The word" can also simply mean the gospel message
This is a wonderful discovery. "Scriptures" doesn't mean the gospel, but the law, the prophets and the psalms, which contain history, the coming of Jesus Christ, as well as the gospel message. "The word" doesn't always refer to "the gospel", but "the word" is most often used to mean "the gospel", and "the word", in this sense, is usually followed by "of life", "of Christ", "of God", & etc. So, some discernment and following the context is needed to figure out which is being discussed: a collection of books or the gospel message or both, because what was once spoken is now also written too.
Many of the verses about the word = the gospel, but not the entire list of them:
When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
"But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." - Matthew 4:4
"Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye." - Mark 7:13
And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
And it came to pass, that, as the people pressed upon him to hear the word of God, he stood by the lake of Gennesaret,
Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.
But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.
Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables.
And the word of God increased; and the number of the disciples multiplied in Jerusalem greatly; and a great company of the priests were obedient to the faith.
Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all
And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God.
But the word of God grew and multiplied.
And when they were at Salamis, they preached the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews: and they had also John to their minister.
Which was with the deputy of the country, Sergius Paulus, a prudent man; who called for Barnabas and Saul, and desired to hear the word of God.
Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.
And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.
Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
But when the Jews of Thessalonica had knowledge that the word of God was preached of Paul at Berea, they came thither also, and stirred up the people.
And he continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them.
So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.
Here are the remaining matches.
And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.
"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." - Romans 10:17
"To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation." - 2 Corinthians 5:19
"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise," - Ephesians 1:13
"And many of the brethren in the Lord, waxing confident by my bonds, are much more bold to speak the word without fear." - Philippians 1:14
"Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain." - Philippians 2:16
"And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost:" - 1 Thessalonians 1:6
"Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine." - 1 Timothy 5:17
"Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine." - 2 Timothy 4:2
"Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers." - Titus 1:9
"Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;" - Hebrews 1:3
"For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it." - Hebrews 4:2
"For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe." - Hebrews 5:13
"But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:" - James 1:22-23
1 Peter 1:23
Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
1 Peter 1:25
But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
1 Peter 2:2
As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
1 Peter 2:8
And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1 Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
1 John 2:5
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1 John 2:7
Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
1 John 2:14
I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.
Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
7) The Living, Breathing Gospel
Jesus = "Jehovah is salvation"
Joshua = "Jehovah is salvation"
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.