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No. 0     Original Topic: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Feb 15, 2015 at 12:45 PM   Viewed 10413 times     
Hola. This is on my new non-political Youtube channel, begun to present a different type of material. These are easier to produce as well.



The camera work is less than professional quality though still probably good enough for various purposes at the royalty-free level, especially in this particular case if merely wanting the sound of a jet flying over.

I get most of the background music and sound effects for my videos from sites that offer free open-source clips. There are, as it turns out, bunches of people like me seeking and grateful for finding them. Otherwise, ya gotta pay somebody or risk violating copyright law. So I figured to be a tiny source myself due to the growing library of sounds and sights in my collection, some of them unlike what is generally found.

The goal in posting here is not really sharing a creation but rather part of the early process of building viewership for a channel toward the goal of gaining subscribers and ultimately perhaps earning a few pennies by letting youtube include ads on them.

For anyone curious, the technical story behind capturing this video is at least to me quite interesting.

Before the recent times (like since 2012) of super-zoom cameras, one could never have accomplished what this short video offers. Even professional photographers (I used to be a news photographer back in the days of film) today would lack the tools for it because their cameras have a much smaller breadth of zoom than the one used here (24-1200mm or 50x zoom).

A pro with a larger sensor would have to change lenses during the approach to flyover, then again for the landing and taxi-off. That would obviously break up the whole thing. The massive zoom I utilized requires a smaller (lesser quality, non-professional, cheaper) sensor.

On the negative side, the massive zoom amplifies camera shake in a huge way, especially visible in video, all the more so if panning to stay up with a moving target. Internal vibration reduction mechanisms help a lot. These were never around in the old days. Not completely though. So I leaned against a wall, then pivoted at the hips during the flyby, for the last part with full zoom carefully bringing an arm down to rest on that wall.

Also, five minutes earlier, and you lack the dramatic effect of runway lighting against the other objects, the sunset too. Five minutes later, and it becomes too dark for the camera to focus. I shot bunches of landings, most before, a couple after, more on a prior day a week earlier. None came out perfect minus errors in the pivot that led to jarring the image frame. Maybe some kind of a fluid rapid-rotating no-doubt expensive tripod is available out there.
No. 1     Reply: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Gary208   Gender: M   Age: 67   on  Feb 16, 2015 at 10:58 AM     
Great work Randall!

I never did video, but back in the '70s was a freelance photographer. Had a few pretty amazing accounts which paid well. One was a calendar shoot for the Missouri Historical Society. Although I provided three to five images for each month of the calendar, my images were used for only ten of the twelve months, only because of two special events during the year where they chose activity photos instead of the designated image photos.

One contract not paid up front, but paid well at the end, was of various art sculptures, not statues, in and around St. Louis and St. Louis County. Most of these were not impressive during the day, but at night took on an aura unique to themselves. It often took numerous shots from different angles before the final images had that oh-so-very look they were after.

I know from working with with a few guys how time consuming and hard it is to edit a film and getting the sounds right. More time is spent in editing than in the actual shoot. So much needs to be cut for one reason or another.

Nice work!

TTUL
Gary
No. 2     Reply: Re: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Feb 17, 2015 at 9:55 AM     
Gary208 wrote:

Great work Randall!

You like the video, or just being polite? No requirement to answer here. Thus far I have heard no feedback except from my sister who was there with me one week earlier taking similar shots. The rest comes down to counting the negative noise of views with no comment (which I do, like everyone else). To that end, thank you for showing any interest at all. Getting older, I am seeking new ways to generate lasting income that can pay even while my role has long been completed.

That one operation is or at least can really be an excellent opportunity. I know of one mechanic (EricTheCarGuy) who quit his full-time auto repair job because the videos generated enough money for him to make the leap. His and other testimonies have been rolling back and forth in my mind for a while, along with experimenting on my own. I did a review of an audio recording device that now has 12,000 views. Other people, lots of others, reach 100,000 and higher for just camera reviews and stuff. I am in fact working on a camera review right now.

Building viewership for a channel is no doubt part of attracting a lot of views. Yet that isn't enough. My political channel has more than 1,000 subscribers. But the most recent upload is barely peeking above 100 views after more than a week online. One must get into the Google search results too, and of course land on or near page one.

For me, I simply love looking at the dramatic runway lights next to the taxiway blue lights and other colors, along with there being enough light left in the sky to see the fuselage and parts of the ground. I can simply stare at it. Then again, I am one of the few kooks who can be found hanging out near the approach end of an airport with about 3-6 other dudes who just like watching flying things land. Could be in another week my opinion will change on the matter of this one image though. It's a risk posting anywhere that people you know can view because of all the mixed feelings. They don't want to wound. Even being too busy for bothering with the activities of another person's life, however, can be a factor.

Anyway, the clip has more views here than it did on Youtube at the time of posting here. So I guess it is possible the decision will serve as a needed launching pad. Youtube does not help people by revealing the algorhythm behind how certain uploads make it to the "Related Videos" column. So a guy simply gets to experiment hoping to ultimately be found by viewers.


I never did video,

I had video on the first digital camera owned for 3-4 years before using it. On that one, you could not zoom during video recording, only extend out 10x before beginning to record. Big limitation, yet I did end up making my first couple video productions while back in college enrolled in among other courses a video editing class that was part of my major. It worked. Those things are still on my youtube channel, me thinking they came out decent enough to keep around.


but back in the '70s was a freelance photographer. Had a few pretty amazing accounts which paid well. One was a calendar shoot for the Missouri Historical Society.

Not just paid but paid well. Key word there. Both are good. One is better. Way to go. I took 200+ pictures one afternoon for Time magazine after the night before sending them in some wildfire shots. They paid $450 for the effort, but I would rather the pictures have gone in. Instead, a Las Vegas hotel fire beat me out that week. Pity. Got paid for a year as a part-time newspaper photographer, then had a couple postcards pay me pennies. That's about it. All things considered, you might have earned more on just the one calendar.


One contract not paid up front, but paid well at the end, was of various art sculptures, not statues, in and around St. Louis and St. Louis County. Most of these were not impressive during the day, but at night took on an aura unique to themselves. It often took numerous shots from different angles before the final images had that oh-so-very look they were after.

Lighting and other factors outside of the actual image I find often make the difference between a snapshot and an image worth hanging on the wall.


I know from working with with a few guys how time consuming and hard it is to edit a film and getting the sounds right.

I have surprised myself how my limited patience is now and then willing to put in the rather significant production time after capturing the image.


More time is spent in editing than in the actual shoot.

On my political vidoes, I have roughly calculated around one hour for each minute of video ready to go. Mucho. Not all is editing. Some if online searching for headlines to accompany things being talked about on the video. Other time goes to fetching sound effects, shrinking the video, occasionally repairing audio, adding transitions, adding text, adding visual effects from within the editing program (panning around, zooming in, moving an image off the screen while displayed).


So much needs to be cut for one reason or another.

You mean thrown out? I still need work there. While trying to limit shooting time to stuff meant for final use, I tend to keep parts in that should probably for the sake of zippiness be cut.
No. 3     Reply: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 32   on  Feb 17, 2015 at 6:22 PM     
As a fairly avid photographer and videographer myself, I am impressed. Good job.
No. 4     Reply: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Gary208   Gender: M   Age: 67   on  Feb 18, 2015 at 2:52 PM     
Hi Dev

I was being honest!

We were without Internet for forty hours, which set me way behind schedule on everything I do each day. So I'm running in catch-up mode today.

If you like working with short videos, I have something which may be just up your alley.

Short Video Trailers for Books has become a very big thing recently.
Most of the el cheapo's are nothing but still frames moving by like watching slides. Some use fade-ins, but the better ones all have a movie like video with them.

Currently, the ones winning Book Trailer Contests are nothing to write home about. Many are overly simple and reek of home-brew beginners work. But because of lack of more professional ones to compare them too, they keep winning.

It is hard to find outlets for short video clips unless you find a niche where they are popular and in demand. Outside of TV advertising, book trailers is just one great niche to be in right now. Too many wanting, not enough artists doing, so they are getting top dollar.

You can check out book trailers on-line to see what the majority consist of and the kind of prices they are fetching.

TTUL
Gary
No. 5     Reply: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  123john62   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Feb 21, 2015 at 12:00 AM     
I also like the video very much as well as the post, Deveray.
So, please keep up posting similar things and videos.
May God continue blessing you.
No. 6     Reply: Re: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Feb 21, 2015 at 1:43 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

As a fairly avid photographer and videographer myself, I am impressed. Good job.

Thanks for offering the perspective. I like that you have apparently gained some understanding of capturing difficult scenes. Not everyone goes beyond regular snapshot photography. I was actually surprised at my inability to nail down the whole thing more steadily. Definitely one for the practice regime.
No. 7     Reply: Re: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Feb 21, 2015 at 1:47 PM     
Gary208 wrote:

Hi Dev

I was being honest!

Bravo then.


If you like working with short videos, I have something which may be just up your alley.

Short Video Trailers for Books has become a very big thing recently.
Most of the el cheapo's are nothing but still frames moving by like watching slides. Some use fade-ins, but the better ones all have a movie like video with them.

Currently, the ones winning Book Trailer Contests are nothing to write home about. Many are overly simple and reek of home-brew beginners work. But because of lack of more professional ones to compare them too, they keep winning.

It is hard to find outlets for short video clips unless you find a niche where they are popular and in demand. Outside of TV advertising, book trailers is just one great niche to be in right now. Too many wanting, not enough artists doing, so they are getting top dollar.

You can check out book trailers on-line to see what the majority consist of and the kind of prices they are fetching.

TTUL
Gary

Could be a great tip there. I will do a search. Thanks.
No. 8     Reply: Re: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Feb 21, 2015 at 1:56 PM     
123john62 wrote:

I also like the video very much as well as the post, Deveray.
So, please keep up posting similar things and videos.
May God continue blessing you.

Hmm, okay, I will maybe try posting another when uploading something worth viewing. Great to hear your encouragement. I wouldn't mind criticism either, for anyone wondering. Feedback is good. It helps a person gauge whether time spend is useful.

This video on my Youtube channel has LESS views than the views for just the thread here. A lot less, fewer than 10 as of maybe 2 days ago. I don't get that unless bunches are peeking inside the thread while choosing not to watch the video. At any rate, the comments here are the only ones anywhere at this point. That whole new channel is languishing as if hidden, which would be a cause for curiosity other than an actual number moving up and one comment received on another video.
No. 9     Reply: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Gary208   Gender: M   Age: 67   on  Feb 22, 2015 at 9:26 AM     
Hi Dev

Here is a link to a page with numerous trailers.
As you can see, most are like slides, almost no true video in any of them.
Skip the first one as it is a story, #3 and #5 at the top are OK for slide type.

I viewed several and did not find one which used actual video footage throughout.

The authors of the books provide the text or narration, and often the still images.

I hope you were able to find some that had true video strips instead of just a bunch of noise and hype, hi hi...

A simple 60 to 90 second slide type book trailer starts around $250.00, and goes up from there. The average cost of the types of book trailers in the link I posted is around $500.00 to $750.00
Needless to say, there are some out there which cost well over ten grand. But they are usually reserved for long time best selling authors. One of the Harry Potter book trailers came it at just under fifty thousand bucks.

Some important information must be included at the end of each book trailer, namely where to buy the book.

It seems certain segments of our population only buy a book if it has a trailer they can watch first. Often ages 16 to 30, so they have become a popular tool.

http://coldcoffeecafe.com/video/video

TTUL
Gary
No. 10     Reply: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  listenandhear   Gender: F   Age: 57   on  Mar 5, 2015 at 2:02 AM     
thanks for sharing Dev.Very well done.
No. 11     Reply: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Kari   Gender: F   Age: 101   on  Mar 9, 2015 at 8:17 AM     
It could be the opening scene for a movie. I was very impressed.. the angles, the attention to adding the city sounds, the zooming wasn't chopped or out of focus. Excellent work! It made me want to see who got off the plane.
No. 12     Reply: Re: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Mar 15, 2015 at 8:22 PM     
listenandhear

thanks for sharing Dev.Very well done.




Kari wrote:

It could be the opening scene for a movie. I was very impressed.. the angles, the attention to adding the city sounds, the zooming wasn't chopped or out of focus. Excellent work! It made me want to see who got off the plane.

Thank you two. And Kari, reading your breakdown into parts was cool.
No. 13     Reply: Re: Boeing 767 sunset night-time approach, flyover, landing through taxi off of runway   
By:  Curtis   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Mar 22, 2015 at 11:29 PM     
Cool video, Randal !!

:thumb_up:

Curt,