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No. 0     Original Topic:  Sandy   
By:  Denise   Gender: F   Age: 57   on  Oct 26, 2012 at 6:38 AM   Viewed 25133 times     
Any Meet Christian members in the path?

:unsure:
No. 1     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 26, 2012 at 10:19 AM     
Hurricane Sandy is supposed to BE HUGE!!!
No. 2     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 46   on  Oct 26, 2012 at 10:25 AM     
Any Meet Christian members in the path?

Not for me. It has to go in the gulf to get to me and that is not its track.
No. 3     Reply: Re: Frankenstorm on the way   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 26, 2012 at 10:45 AM     


WASHINGTON (AP) — The pre-Halloween hybrid weather monster that federal forecasters call "Frankenstorm" is looking more ominous by the hour for the East Coast, and utilities and local governments are getting ready.

Meteorologists expect a natural horror show of high wind, heavy rain, extreme tides and maybe snow to the west beginning early Sunday, peaking with the arrival of Hurricane Sandy on Tuesday and lingering past Halloween on Wednesday.

With a rare mix of three big merging weather systems over a densely populated region, experts predict at least $1 billion in damage.

The stage is set as Hurricane Sandy, having blown through Haiti and Cuba, continues to barrel north. A wintry storm is chugging across the country from the west. And frigid air is streaming south from Canada.

And if they meet Tuesday morning around New York or New Jersey, as forecasters predict, they could create a big, wet mess that settles over the nation's most heavily populated corridor and reaches as far west as Ohio.

Utilities are lining up out-of-state work crews and canceling employees' days off to deal with expected power outages. From county disaster chiefs to the federal government, emergency officials are warning the public to be prepared. And President Barack Obama was briefed aboard Air Force One.

"It's looking like a very serious storm that could be historic," said Jeff Masters, meteorology director of the forecasting service Weather Underground. "Mother Nature is not saying, 'Trick or treat.' It's just going to give tricks."

National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecaster Jim Cisco, who coined the nickname Frankenstorm, said: "We don't have many modern precedents for what the models are suggesting."

Government forecasters said there is a 90 percent chance — up from 60 percent two days earlier — that the East will get pounded.

Coastal areas from Florida to Maine will feel some effects, but the storm is expected to vent the worst of its fury on New Jersey and the New York City area, which could see around 5 inches of rain and gale-force winds close to 40 mph. Eastern Ohio, southwestern Pennsylvania and western Virginia could get snow.

And the storm will take its time leaving. The weather may not start clearing in the mid-Atlantic until the day after Halloween and Nov. 2 in the upper Northeast, Cisco said.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82929.html#ixzz2AQ7XmlQN
No. 4     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 26, 2012 at 1:13 PM     
No. 5     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 26, 2012 at 1:22 PM     
Yep, this is considered "The Storm Of The Century" ! ! !

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-25/u-s-east-from-washington-to-nyc-at-risk-from-hurricane-sandy.html
No. 6     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Denise   Gender: F   Age: 57   on  Oct 26, 2012 at 1:55 PM     
Kim (JustMeKim) and her new husband are in the path.



Drudge has titled it to be a.. 'Disaster of biblical proportions'...

:shock:

Or perhaps Matt Drudge was talking about the occupants of the White House over the past 12 years.

:laugh:
No. 7     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Curtis   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Oct 26, 2012 at 9:03 PM     
WOW! Really?

I havent been paying attention to the news...Its all political now.

Which way is it headed??


Curt,:icon_eek:
No. 8     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 26, 2012 at 9:09 PM     
curtis553 wrote:

WOW! Really?

I havent been paying attention to the news...Its all political now.

Which way is it headed??


Curt,:icon_eek:


It's headed straight for New York, you know, Their State Legislature recently legalized Same-Sex Marriages.
No. 9     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM     
No. 10     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 27, 2012 at 12:32 PM     
My home is in the path of the hurricane, on the western edge not the easterly side.

We're also expecting cold north winds blowing downstream from Canada, and snows moving across the midwest to converge with the hurricane in the next couple of days.

Rains expected all week long where I am. So happy news is no yard work this weekend.

Still praying for those who will be hit hardest by this storm, and that will be the sea coast between New Jersey and New York City. Power outages may be extensive.
No. 11     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Christian_Gent   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Oct 27, 2012 at 2:03 PM     


Looks like this Hurricane is headed toward NJ & NYC. It's becoming very destructive.





:pray:

No. 12     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 27, 2012 at 3:18 PM     
Taken from New Smyrna Beach Florida, on its way up the eastern seaboard:

No. 13     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Oct 27, 2012 at 8:26 PM     
Heard from Ben (former, popular member of MC) via Facebook. He says he no longer lives in Myrtle Beach but has moved inland, so he figures he's safe.
No. 14     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Elijah674   Gender: M   Age: 79   on  Oct 27, 2012 at 9:36 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

Heard from Ben (former, popular member of MC) via Facebook. He says he no longer lives in Myrtle Beach but has moved inland, so he figures he's safe.


Our son lives in the Myrtle Beach area( extra home) & he says that they have had some wind & rain.

I think Jeff lives in Virgina some where? The storm will be felt there it looks like? It is very broad.
No. 15     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 27, 2012 at 9:45 PM     
At the supermarket this evening the shelves where the gallon jugs of water are were practically empty! People are bracing for the worst, although we'll get the tail end of it where we are I think.

Reminded me of my years living in New York City though; when there was a big Nor'easter brewing people would literally raid the store shelves of milk, bread, and water before the big storm. I imagine that's still the same, and I don't miss all the hustle and bustle one bit.

No. 16     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Joyful_In_Him   Gender: F   Age: 59   on  Oct 27, 2012 at 10:31 PM     
insular926 wrote:

curtis553 wrote:

WOW! Really?

I havent been paying attention to the news...Its all political now.

Which way is it headed??


Curt,:icon_eek:


It's headed straight for New York, you know, Their State Legislature recently legalized Same-Sex Marriages.



Yes, both true. Interesting.
No. 17     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 27, 2012 at 11:09 PM     
Okay, a hurricane alert was emailed two minutes ago by my electric company, advising what to do for emergency preparedness.

Keep my iPhone charged in the event of an outage, so I can track what's happening on Facebook, emails, and peeking in occasionally to see what you all are up to.

There was a time before computers, no?!

:rofl:
No. 18     Reply: Re: 7.7 earthquake hits British Columbia!   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 27, 2012 at 11:39 PM     
Okay, now a major earthquake has hit the Charlotte Islands off British Columbia measuring 7.7 on the Richter Scale. No injuries but one minor one reported thus far, there have been two major after shocks.

A tsunami warning is in effect for the next several hours, including off the coast of some Hawaiian islands.

:pray:
No. 19     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Denise   Gender: F   Age: 57   on  Oct 28, 2012 at 12:27 PM     
Sandy is already giving the East Coast a beating. The weather service issued photo's about 2 hours ago: http://www.weather.com/news/hurricane-sandy-pictures-photos2-20121025
No. 20     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Denise   Gender: F   Age: 57   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 9:12 AM     
CAPE HATTERAS, North Carolina — The HMS Bounty, a 180-foot, three-mast tall ship, has sunk off the coast of North Carolina, according to WITN.com. According to the BBC, all 16 crew members were rescued, however, other reports state that only 14 have been hoisted to safety. It was previously reported that this was a 17-man ship, however the Coast Guard confirms that only 16 men were on board.

I guess sailing it out of harms way may not have been a possibility? :unsure:
No. 21     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 9:28 AM     
No. 22     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  SonShines   Gender: F   Age: 33   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM     
Joyful_In_Him wrote:

insular926 wrote:

curtis553 wrote:

WOW! Really?

I havent been paying attention to the news...Its all political now.

Which way is it headed??


Curt,:icon_eek:


It's headed straight for New York, you know, Their State Legislature recently legalized Same-Sex Marriages.



Yes, both true. Interesting.



You both keep reading what you wrote as the injury, pain, and death stories start to come in.

Absolutely horrible people.
No. 23     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM     
SonShines wrote:

Joyful_In_Him wrote:

insular926 wrote:

curtis553 wrote:

WOW! Really?

I havent been paying attention to the news...Its all political now.

Which way is it headed??


Curt,:icon_eek:


It's headed straight for New York, you know, Their State Legislature recently legalized Same-Sex Marriages.



Yes, both true. Interesting.



You both keep reading what you wrote as the injury, pain, and death stories start to come in.

Absolutely horrible people.


"Does God Use Weather As An Instrument of Judgment?
Dr. Allen Barber

During my 40 years plus of Christian ministry both as a pastor and independent teacher, the majority of believers do not believe God sends judgment upon people or nations since He is a loving God. They only see one aspect of God's nature - the God of love and never judgment. Non-believers mock the thought of there being a God and usually blame Him for all the bad in the world. Isn't that interesting? On the one hand, they don't believe He exists and on the other hand, they blame him for the evil done to the innocent. You can't have it both ways, either there is a God who is both loving and judgmental or there is no supreme being and man is left to his own will and devices. The very thought of that is extremely naive given the fact there is much in life that is out of our control such as life and death. The human race cannot give life to itself even though it has invented many ways to alter the life in the womb and certainly cannot prevent death, which is the one point I always stress when debating atheists. Only the God of the Bible is the creator of Life and only He has determined that all mankind must die once and face the judgment.

Now what about vicious tornadoes and hurricanes, can they be the tool of a God who judges individuals and nations for wickedness? The Bible is clear on this issue and the answer is a resounding Yes!

First, is the United States of America a righteous or wicked nation? Anyone one with a clear mind and some knowledge of the Word of God knows that the United States is anything but a righteous nation. We lead the world in porn production - Yes, lead the world with our filth. One of the major criticism of Islam against America is our penchant for nudity, porn, and homosexuality and it is criticism well deserved even though I strongly oppose Islam. We love sex, nudity and foul language. The movies at the theaters, on TV and the internet are filled with nudity, sex and four letter words, particularly the "F" word. We recently were given a free trial subscription by our ISP provider for certain movie channels. Ninety percent of the movies are filled with total nude scenes and sex acts that leave little for the imagination. In addition, the "F" word and "G-D" inundate the actors language, all which is unnecessary even to portray earthy scenes. Obviously, we canceled the subscription.

Homosexuality has been let loose on our society by left-leaning politicians and corrupt judges. I wrote an article back in 2003 on how the U.S. Supreme Court fulfilled Luke 17:28 when they overturned the Texas Sodomy Law. The very next day, gays and lesbians celebrated in the streets around the globe proving the United States is recognized as the leading nation of the world. God also takes notice of how nation's affect the morality of other nations and holds that nation accountable, that is, He sends judgment usually in stages, mild at first to encourage repentance, then more severe if His judgment is unheeded, and last severe judgment. The Apostle Paul tells us in Romans 2:4 that the goodness (patience) of God is intended to lead men to repentance, but when that patience is ignored for long periods of time, God acts in severe judgment.

Isaiah 26:9 says that when God's judgments are in the world, its inhabitants learn righteousness, meaning they seek it after judgment has stripped away all their security blankets. Modern day America (never understood why the United States is called America while there is both a Northern and Southern hemisphere called "America." The U.S. is just one nation within the two American hemispheres), has many security blankets such as financial wealth, high standards of living, relative peace and security from foreign and domestic enemies due to our super-power status (that is changing) and liberties and freedoms unparalleled in world history (that is also changing).

In addition, we are so gospel hardened, meaning that as a nation, we have begun to turn away from the truth of the gospel that Jesus alone saves as well as the truths of Sola Scriptura. Christianity is under attack like never before since the nation was founded in 1776 by both atheists and false religions that have taken root in our society. Last, sin is an unknown vice in the United States, that is, an alarming number of the population do not believe they are born sinners or for that matter that they even sin. Instead, sin has become just a mistake and not part of human nature. I once preached to a prison pod that housed 50 inmates and when I spoke about our common inherent sin nature, many laughed and mocked such an idea. After I finished speaking, I asked one of the astute individuals if he thought he committed acts of sin and he said no. Then I asked him how and why he became a prison inmate. When he told me his crime, I asked him if he considered that a bad or good deed and he hesitated before responding and said it was bad. Then I read him the truth from Romans 3:10 and 23 and 5:12- "There is none righteous, no not a one; for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God; Wherefore as by one man, Adam, sin entered into the world, and death came by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." After reading that he was more subdued, so I ended by telling him that it did not matter whether he thought he was a sinner or not in spite of all the inner and outer evidence, for God has declared that he like all men are sinners by birth and choice. However, there was a remedy - repentance and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. There were some who believed that day and were saved.

Now back to whether God uses weather to judge nations; consider the following passages:

Job 37: 9-16 NLT

9 The stormy wind comes from its chamber,
and the driving winds bring the cold.
10 God's breath sends the ice,
freezing wide expanses of water.
11 He loads the clouds with moisture,
and they flash with his lightning.
12 The clouds churn about at his direction.
They do whatever he commands throughout the earth.
13 He makes these things happen either to punish people
or to show his unfailing love.
14 "Pay attention to this, Job.
Stop and consider the wonderful miracles of God!
15 Do you know how God controls the storm
and causes the lightning to flash from his clouds?
16 Do you understand how he moves the clouds
with wonderful perfection and skill?
17 When you are sweltering in your clothes
and the south wind dies down and everything is still,
18 he makes the skies reflect the heat like a bronze mirror.
Can you do that?

The Hebrew word for "stormy wind" is cawphah and means a hurricane.

Amos 3:6-7 NLT

6 When the ram's horn blows a warning,
shouldn't the people be alarmed?
Does disaster come to a city
unless the Lord has planned it?

7 Indeed, the Sovereign Lord never does anything
until he reveals his plans to his servants the prophets.

Amos 3:10-11 NLT

10 "My people have forgotten how to do right,"
says the Lord.
"Their fortresses are filled with wealth
taken by theft and violence.
11 Therefore," says the Sovereign Lord,
"an enemy is coming!
He will surround them and shatter their defenses.
Then he will plunder all their fortresses."

Notice that the prophet Amos in speaking to the nation of Israel says that God destroys cities of wicked nations which God addresses by saying, "Israel had forgotten how to do right." I say those same words God is speaking to America today - We have forgotten how to do right and we no longer blush at public nudity and sex. Instead we tolerate and condone it. Therefore, God is sending harsh weather conditions of every kind upon our once blessed nation.

Amos 4:6-12 NLT

6 "I brought hunger to every city and famine to every town. But still you would not return to me,"says the Lord.
7 "I kept the rain from falling when your crops needed it the most. I sent rain on one town but withheld it from another. Rain fell on one field, while another field withered away. 8 People staggered from town to town looking for water, but there was never enough. But still you would not return to me,"says the Lord.
9 "I struck your farms and vineyards with blight and mildew. Locusts devoured all your fig and olive trees. But still you would not return to me,"says the Lord.
10 "I sent plagues on you like the plagues I sent on Egypt long ago. I killed your young men in war and led all your horses away. The stench of death filled the air! But still you would not return to me,"says the Lord.
11 "I destroyed some of your cities, as I destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. Those of you who survived were like charred sticks pulled from a fire. But still you would not return to me,"says the Lord.
12 "Therefore, I will bring upon you all the disasters I have announced. Prepare to meet your God in judgment, you people of Israel!"

It is clear in this passage that the purpose of divine judgment is to bring repentance to nations and people. When God sent the prophet Jonah to preach repentance to Nineveh, he did not tell Jonah to placate Nineveh's sins, but that if they did not repent, God would destroy the nation. They repented and God delayed his judgment. However, about forty years later, He destroyed the city for they went back to loving their sin.

I have been preaching, reading and writing for about 16 years that unless the United States repented, God was going to send severe judgment. Notice in Amos 3:11 above that God says an enemy will plunder all of Israel's fortresses. In March 1994, God gave me a word from Jeremiah 46:20 and Hosea 10:10-15 that unless the United States repented that He was going to send enemies to plunder our fortresses, namely, our financial, military, and breadbasket. The financial judgment began on September 11, 2001 and continues unabated despite pockets of prosperity. The damage done to the Pentagon on 9-11 was a warning to the military brass that if they didn't get their house in order, the mighty U.S. military would sustain a major defeat (that is still unfilled, but is coming). The Pentagon has moved aggressively to condemn Christianity among the ranks while placating Islam.

Since 1994, the U.S. has lost millions of acres of forest to massive fires; widespread floods, droughts and vicious storms have taken a toll on our ability to produce enough food to feed our nation. A recent bulletin by the U.S. Agriculture Dept. admitted we now import much of our food supply. We used to feed the world. Stupid EPA regulations that prohibit farmers from having enough water for their crops or idling millions of acres of productive farm land is as much a part of judgment as the extreme weather. In several passages of Scripture, God says He will send confusion to nations that turn their back on him. The present Congress and administration are the most confused mixed-up bunch of people I have ever seen in my lifetime. The right hand doesn't know what the left-hand is doing and President Obama and his Democratic friends don't have a clue of how to successfully manage our economy and create "real jobs."

Consider Psalms 9:16 and 17: KJV

16 The Lord is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.
17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

The Hebrew meaning of "that forget God" is to pay Him no mind or ignore Him as being irrelevant. This is indicative of many in our nation and particularly among the leadership in government, business and religion.

The United States began a course of turning away from God and His Word in the 1960's and the evil fruit of it is in full bloom.

Hosea 10:13 "...You (Ephraim or the northern kingdom of Israel) have eaten the fruit of lies because you trusted in your own way and in the multitude of your mighty men." The U.S. is eating the fruit of its lies calling evil good and good evil and by trusting in its super-power status rather than in the Lord of Host.

Are hurricane's like Katrina the judgment of God? Katrina was definitely the judgment of God and almost wiped out New Orleans. The 9th Ward has not been re-built or restored. Moreover, some cities and towns on the Gulf Coast were completely destroyed.

What about the recent earthquake that rattled Washington, D.C.? Was that a warning from God of coming disaster in the nations capitol? We shall have to wait and see. I know this, that God is not happy, but angry with all the sin and wickedness He sees coming from our government. Do you know that the Freemason designers of Washington, D.C. laid out the streets to make a perfect Pentagon - the symbol of Satanic evil and a curse. The Masonic Temple is located exactly 13 blocks from the Capitol buildings (the number 13 is a high number in occult numerology).

Well, there is much more I could write about the judgment of God upon wicked nations, but this will suffice for now.

May God bless you and give you wisdom and understanding in the last days (Daniel 12:10)."

http://www.thedayofthelordministries.com/
No. 24     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  SonShines   Gender: F   Age: 33   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 1:35 PM     
You people are serious? What is this, the dark ages?


Is that why the Religious Right is so "end times"? because of climate change?
No. 25     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 2:22 PM     
No. 26     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 4:42 PM     
No. 27     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Darrell   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 4:54 PM     
I have friends and family all throughout that region in several states. Primarily Washington D.C., Maryland, Virginia, NC, and PA.
No. 28     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 6:33 PM     
Even though my middle daughter (the one of the three who didn't decide to get married in the next two months) lives in NC though not on the coastline, I am very happy she is here in Ohio for the first wedding coming up Friday.
No. 29     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 6:36 PM     
No. 30     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 7:02 PM     
Joyful_In_Him wrote:

insular926 wrote:

curtis553 wrote:

WOW! Really?

I havent been paying attention to the news...Its all political now.

Which way is it headed??


Curt,:icon_eek:


It's headed straight for New York, you know, Their State Legislature recently legalized Same-Sex Marriages.



Yes, both true. Interesting.



Gays partly to blame for Hurricane Sandy, says Christian chaplain
Andrew
By Andrew John
Oct 29, 2012 - 9 hours ago in Lifestyle






Gay people are partly to blame for Hurricane Sandy and other disasters to befall the United States, according to an American Christian chaplain.

Under the headline “Christian preacher blames gays for Hurricane Sandy”, Gay Star News says, “As the east coast of the United States prepares for the storm, which has already killed 60 people in the Caribbean, author and chaplain John McTernan has decided who is at fault.”

The paper says John McTernan is claiming that “the gathering storm must be God’s judgment on gays, and punishing the president Barack Obama for coming out in support of marriage equality.”

On his website, McTernan writes:

God is systematically destroying America. Just look at what has happened this year.

There was an incredible heatwave and drought that destroyed massive amounts of the crops. This drought has not let up and now covers about 65 percent of the country.

The drought triggered record forest fires in the West.

The East was not affected by the drought, but now the most powerful hurricane on record is heading directly towards Philadelphia and New York City. It could do catastrophic damage to the entire Northeast!

If you add the area of the drought and now the hurricane together, it would be about 80 percent of the country! As I said, the Holy God of Israel is systematically destroying America right before our eyes.

Just last August, Hurricane Isaac hit New Orleans seven years later, on the exact day of Hurricane Katrina. Both hit during the week of the homosexual event called Southern Decadence in New Orleans!

Hurricane Sandy comes 21 years after the Perfect Storm of 1991, and McTernan uses simple numerology to prove his point:

Twenty-one years breaks down to 7 x 3, which is a significant number with God. Three is perfection as the Godhead is three in one while seven is perfection.

It appears that God gave America 21 years to repent of interfering with His prophetic plan for Israel; however, it has gotten worse under all the presidents and especially Obama. Obama is 100 percent behind the Muslim Brotherhood which has vowed to destroy Israel and take Jerusalem. Both candidates are pro-homosexual and are behind the homosexual agenda. America is under political judgment and the church does not know it!

He adds that there is almost zero repentance within the Christian church.
“The fear of God has disappeared from His people,” he writes.

No. 31     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Elijah674   Gender: M   Age: 79   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 7:05 PM     
insular926 wrote:

Yep, this is considered "The Storm Of The Century" ! ! !

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-25/u-s-east-from-washington-to-nyc-at-risk-from-hurricane-sandy.html


If God had not given increased knowledge for the 'last days', just think what it would be like with no warnings of these storms?? (TV Newscasts)

And just a side/thought, most all of the world watch these things. The trial of O.J. Simpson, major sports of all kinds, the Pres. debates.

And I have had sincere folks say to me that Matt. 24:14 cannot be accomplished for years to come with the WARNING to the whole world of the Gospel. They do not even think of the World court finishing this 666 Final Testing up rather quickly in accurate 'TESTIMONY'! especially with the Latter Rain of the Holy Spirit on the sincere ones! Acts 3:19
No. 32     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Joyful_In_Him   Gender: F   Age: 59   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 8:39 PM     
Elijah674 wrote:

insular926 wrote:

Yep, this is considered "The Storm Of The Century" ! ! !

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-25/u-s-east-from-washington-to-nyc-at-risk-from-hurricane-sandy.html


If God had not given increased knowledge for the 'last days', just think what it would be like with no warnings of these storms?? (TV Newscasts)

And just a side/thought, most all of the world watch these things. The trial of O.J. Simpson, major sports of all kinds, the Pres. debates.

And I have had sincere folks say to me that Matt. 24:14 cannot be accomplished for years to come with the WARNING to the whole world of the Gospel. They do not even think of the World court finishing this 666 Final Testing up rather quickly in accurate 'TESTIMONY'! especially with the Latter Rain of the Holy Spirit on the sincere ones! Acts 3:19



Elijah,
I have been praying all day for those who are in harms way.
Did not quite get your meaning here but the increase in knowledge also makes possible the scripture that states, the whole world will see the two witnesses in Jerusalem.
No. 33     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Joyful_In_Him   Gender: F   Age: 59   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM     
SonShines wrote:

Joyful_In_Him wrote:

insular926 wrote:

curtis553 wrote:

WOW! Really?

I havent been paying attention to the news...Its all political now.

Which way is it headed??


Curt,:icon_eek:


It's headed straight for New York, you know, Their State Legislature recently legalized Same-Sex Marriages.



Yes, both true. Interesting.



You both keep reading what you wrote as the injury, pain, and death stories start to come in.

Absolutely horrible people.



Silly girl. The old testament has many examples of the wrath of God. The Revelation promises the same. Don't kill the messenger. Just consider that this is a possibility. Oh, wait! You are insulted because you see God as a one sided just "love" God? Well, he also is a jealous God. Yes, He is a loving God, but oh so much more.
No. 34     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Curtis   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 8:54 PM     
Well, Whether you believe Sandy is Political or Spiritual...Please pray for the folks in its path.

I have two nephews in NYC, Who are unable to get a flight home.


Curt,
No. 35     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  SonShines   Gender: F   Age: 33   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 8:55 PM     
It also struck NYC - Capitalist central. It is also very damaging due to our lacking to keep up our infrastructure.

Maybe it's attacking because God has had it with the GOP and Tea Party (BOSTON)
No. 36     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  SonShines   Gender: F   Age: 33   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 8:56 PM     
curtis553 wrote:

Well, Whether you believe Sandy is Political or Spiritual...Please pray for the folks in its path.

I have two nephews in NYC, Who are unable to get a flight home.


Curt,


That, they can't do. When they gleefully point to destruction and shout, "wrath of God"... they give up their ability to Love and empathize with others.
No. 37     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Joyful_In_Him   Gender: F   Age: 59   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 9:31 PM     
curtis553 wrote:

Well, Whether you believe Sandy is Political or Spiritual...Please pray for the folks in its path.

I have two nephews in NYC, Who are unable to get a flight home.


Curt,


I have been praying all day long, Curt. Very concerning.
No. 38     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 9:38 PM     

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No. 39     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Christian_Gent   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 9:39 PM     
SonShines wrote:

curtis553 wrote:

Well, Whether you believe Sandy is Political or Spiritual...Please pray for the folks in its path.

I have two nephews in NYC, Who are unable to get a flight home.


Curt,


That, they can't do. When they gleefully point to destruction and shout, "wrath of God"... they give up their ability to Love and empathize with others.


Amen to both of you (highlighted part). If this IS a judgment from God, we shouldn't ridicule those lands or its inhabitants. We do give up our ability to love them which translates to our inability to earnestly pray for them or win them to Christ.

I really don't think anyone REALLY meant to condemn the victims of this hurricane. If so, then they really have a hole in their heart for the lost, unloved, and sinners in general.

:pray:

No. 40     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Joyful_In_Him   Gender: F   Age: 59   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 9:41 PM     
SonShines wrote:

curtis553 wrote:

Well, Whether you believe Sandy is Political or Spiritual...Please pray for the folks in its path.

I have two nephews in NYC, Who are unable to get a flight home.


Curt,


That, they can't do. When they gleefully point to destruction and shout, "wrath of God"... they give up their ability to Love and empathize with others.



What's in your head, or heart that you believe anyone could be gleeful over disaster? You are projecting. I do not want the wrath of God or even just plain storms on anyone. Get real! You make poor judgement here. Get a grip. Calm down. I seriously doubt there are many getting pleasure from tragedy. You're just wrong. I forgive you for another false accusation. Yet, it is not my forgivness you need. Sorry for you.
No. 41     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 29, 2012 at 11:06 PM     
I came home this evening to find my well rooted and established twelve year old Wisteria tree I planted from a baby has been blown over where it stood next to my house! My driveway is covered with the beautiful Wisteria tree that brought us years of blooms and shade, and robins nests, is now gone.

It was brought down by winds coming from the north. North winds blowing south is the first time since meteorologists have been recording the weather patterns this wind direction has ever occurred.

The wind has always come from a westerly direction, it said in the news this evening. So the trees are not able to withstand the wind from an entirely different direction and before this storm has left there will be major tree damage, more than Hurricane Irene left in its wake one year ago.

The rains are pounding where I am and the winds are howling. So far we continue to have power where I am. There are more than three million without electric on the East coast, and that will rise before this is all over. Ten deaths are reported so far caused by the storm.

:pray: :group_prayer:
No. 42     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 12:06 AM     
Weather channel mentioned NYC getting wind gusts of 80 mph. Holy Cow!
No. 43     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 1:02 AM     
Latest commentary on the storm from Dr. Barber -

"Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans on Monday August 29, 2005 and Hurricane Sandy hit New Jersey on Monday October 29, 2012 or 7 years and 2 months apart. Notice both dates are the 29th of the month. The sum of 29 is "11" (2+9=11) a high number on the occult calendar. Black Tuesday - Stock Market crash took place on October 29, 1929 (notice the two 29's);

Two major unprecedented storms hit the United States on the same day of the week and the same day of the month. Is there a divine pattern? God does things in 3's so does that mean a third major catastrophe will occur on some future Monday and on the 29th day of the month? History attests that 3 national catastrophe's have taken place on the 29th Day of October and two of them on the same day of the month. Happenstance, circumstance, accident, or fore-ordained?

We shall have to wait and see.

You decide."


http://www.thedayofthelordministries.com/


God is ramping things up, people. His word to us?

Prepare - get right with Me, do My will, build My kingdom!
No. 44     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  SonShines   Gender: F   Age: 33   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 6:15 AM     
You all want to read into these storms, let's talk about climate change. Let's talk about God laying down the laws of nature and humans all but destroying nature.
No. 45     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Jeff74996   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 6:55 AM     
God IS in control of ALL things, and ALL things work together as we are told in Romans 8:28. God has historically taken credit for the destruction of cities, cities of His own people (Jerusalem) as well as those that do not name Him as their God (Babylon, Nineveh, Tyre, etc.). God does not change.

Who takes joy in these things? The Christian who is closest to God understands his own filth far better than the worldling who is so in the dark that he cannot even see how dirty he is. The Christian knows that had it not been for the grace of God, what his condition would be, and what he actually deserves. The storms hit Christian and worldling alike. Yet the hand of God is seen, even in the great storm, in ways that cannot be fathomed by a mere glance at the outer damage. Stories of grace came out of Katrina, and lives have been changed forever, and for the better. Yes, great loss, but also greater gain. When God moves, and He does not change, cities are leveled. Houses are burned. Cars explode. People die. Who takes joy in these things? Southern Baptists will probably be among the first to step forward to offer aid, as they were for Katrina victims, and cleaning up after 9/11. Methodists will be there. Christians from all denominations, entire congregations, will be involved in providing relief. And before anything even began, we were already in prayer for those in the path. But we do acknowledge that God is sovereign, and we as a people have departed from His ways.
No. 46     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 7:39 AM     
The HMS Bounty that went down in Sandy, The Captain is still missing so it appears that he might have gone down with the Ship.

No. 47     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Curtis   Gender: M   Age: 50   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 7:44 AM     
I believe that God can use anything he wants to get
peoples attention.Weather, War,Illness, etc...

But.
The devil doesnt just live in NYC or the east coast.

Did 9-11 cause every knee to bow? and confess Jesus as
lord and savior?
Did Katrina?

did anyone repent?

There are true bible believing christians in that city.
You dont hear much about them on the news..
Will God distroy them too?


I think to wake up a nation, it will take a lot more than
just one bad storm.

We limmit Gods capability when we think small.

We all will
know it, If God decides to bring out his wrath.sinners,
Idol worshipers,Christian and sceptics...alike. We will know
that God has spoken and there will be no mistake about it.
and will be very clear as to why.


and it will not effect just one nation, But all the earth.

He will at the same time, show is hand of mercy and grace.


Curt,









No. 48     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Elijah674   Gender: M   Age: 79   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 7:55 AM     
Joyful_In_Him wrote:

Elijah674 wrote:

insular926 wrote:

Yep, this is considered "The Storm Of The Century" ! ! !

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-25/u-s-east-from-washington-to-nyc-at-risk-from-hurricane-sandy.html


If God had not given increased knowledge for the 'last days', just think what it would be like with no warnings of these storms?? (TV Newscasts)

And just a side/thought, most all of the world watch these things. The trial of O.J. Simpson, major sports of all kinds, the Pres. debates.

And I have had sincere folks say to me that Matt. 24:14 cannot be accomplished for years to come with the WARNING to the whole world of the Gospel. They do not even think of the World court finishing this 666 Final Testing up rather quickly in accurate 'TESTIMONY'! especially with the Latter Rain of the Holy Spirit on the sincere ones! Acts 3:19



Elijah,
I have been praying all day for those who are in harms way.
Did not quite get your meaning here but the increase in knowledge also makes possible the scripture that states, the whole world will see the two witnesses in Jerusalem.



Hi, the point is as Matt. 24:14 says here:
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

And what is to be seen in the FINISHED GOSPEL is Rev. 14:6-10. But the point is that the Dan. 12
[4] But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

And Matt. 24:21 on finds things going from bad to worse. (not just these storms!) God has blessed the Lamb/like USA of Rev. 13 to no extreme, and what has it now become??? Consider NO person, but just the stand of one party as a whole. What is now taking place is the Lord's LAST recoarse IN LOVE to get mankind to repent & give it up!

So the KNOWLEDGE given has a twofold effect of where many could die from the disasters, we find ample warning broadcast worldwide. And who will be taken the 'spiritual' warning seriously? (only a few) Yet we are seeing God giving us the opportunity even by some saying to us... 'it is the economy stupid!', while even this does not even do much good! One gal on here thinks about her tree????:sleep:

Did you read Isa. 5's couple verses of verse 4-5???? + Jude 1:22-23 for the only way that God has to work? His Blessings have been on USA until He has been rejected 'thoroughly' as seen in Rev. 17:1-5.

SO: He tell's ALL what has to be done next for just the few who will still repent with True Agape REFORM. The Holy Spirit will be withdrawn from those who would not hear & GIVEN to those few who have been obedient + ALL WHO HAVE HAD NO CHANCE TO HEAR THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL before. And as was in Acts, it still will only be a REMNANT seen of the vast world + the ones of Matt. 7's BROADWAY PROFESSING only ones.

And again, 666 will be the tool of satan's bunch to force false worship to try to appease what they think is an argry God who lets satan turn earth into his death/trap!

--Elijah

No. 49     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Joyful_In_Him   Gender: F   Age: 59   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 9:02 AM     
Jeff74996 wrote:

God IS in control of ALL things, and ALL things work together as we are told in Romans 8:28. God has historically taken credit for the destruction of cities, cities of His own people (Jerusalem) as well as those that do not name Him as their God (Babylon, Nineveh, Tyre, etc.). God does not change.

Who takes joy in these things? The Christian who is closest to God understands his own filth far better than the worldling who is so in the dark that he cannot even see how dirty he is. The Christian knows that had it not been for the grace of God, what his condition would be, and what he actually deserves. The storms hit Christian and worldling alike. Yet the hand of God is seen, even in the great storm, in ways that cannot be fathomed by a mere glance at the outer damage. Stories of grace came out of Katrina, and lives have been changed forever, and for the better. Yes, great loss, but also greater gain. When God moves, and He does not change, cities are leveled. Houses are burned. Cars explode. People die. Who takes joy in these things? Southern Baptists will probably be among the first to step forward to offer aid, as they were for Katrina victims, and cleaning up after 9/11. Methodists will be there. Christians from all denominations, entire congregations, will be involved in providing relief. And before anything even began, we were already in prayer for those in the path. But we do acknowledge that God is sovereign, and we as a people have departed from His ways.


Yes, I agree, Jeff. Excellent way to communicate this truth. Hats off to you.
No. 50     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Elijah674   Gender: M   Age: 79   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 10:29 AM     
A quick question! Do you think these are workers of Christ, or satan?? And the Rev. 17:1-5 ones are known to be as the Holy Spirit has DOCUMENTED or as they see themselves??

Matt. 7

[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
[15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
....

[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

[24] Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
(Works?? are not these in verse 22 doing works that we find from the Rev. 17:1-5 ones also??)

[25] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

(OK: Catch what works seperate these Lost & Saved ones?? All of verse 22 find the Broadway ones doing works, what requirement did they lack then?

1 John 2:4
[3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.)

[26] And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

[27] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

One needs to question their self on if the lost ones even here in ibid 22 do not do 'some' good works?? If Christ's WORD can be believed??

And what 4th Commandment of the law of God that was also to be recreated in the Born Again Mind & Heart by the Holy Spirit & New Birth, has [[all of these ones]] found to be James 2:10 defunct?

--Elijah

No. 51     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 10:47 AM     
SonShines wrote:

You all want to read into these storms, let's talk about climate change. Let's talk about God laying down the laws of nature and humans all but destroying nature.


God giveth life, and taketh away. We can't understand how he operates but we do understand the laws of nature and how they work, which he personally created.

Nature is no respector of persons. When it's set on a destructive path we can't really presume to know whether its God's will that certain people are destroyed, because any in the path of the hurricane, twister, earthquake, avalanche etc. are not immune from the effects thereof.

God didn't create the atom or the nuclear bomb either. We are as responsible for climate change as stewards of our planet for all the emissions, and chemicals we pollute into the atmosphere, as we are for blowing up the world. God isn't responsible for our decisions, we are.

We must not blame God for our own irresponsibilities, presuming its always his will that things go a certain way. He, on the other hand, will hold each of us accountable for our actions and inactions over the stewardship he has appointed us with.

No. 52     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Dare2BBold   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 12:23 PM     
I don't know for certain ( & as God - in the OT - reminds us/Job none of us are to expect to know for certain ) if God is pouring His wrath on a nation/people that are not honoring Him.

I do believe we're to look at scripture in the OT through the lens of the New Testament. God sent Jesus as a gift of mercy. Mercy = grace freely given to those who've done nothing to deserve compassion.

That doesn't mean we turn a blind eye to sin in social, economical, political, religious areas. But Jesus never used coercion/laws to bring people to faith. He invited them into a personal relationship with him, to come to know repentance & his gift of life...freedom...liberty.

Soooooo, I don't know for certain if God pours out His wrath on unrepentant sinners. But I do believe He calls us to indiscriminately show compassion to ALL who have been hurt by tragedies. Via nature or man-made. We're not to get lost in judging, even when it's clearly a hate filled enemy shooting people down, who is worthy of compassion & who is not.

I do wonder sometimes if God is allowing such painful tragedies to occur because of unrepentant pride filled Christians who spend so much time on separating saints from sinners & don't come to see the sinner within themself.

Praying Gods best will be known in the aftermath of this storm. That those who have lost loved ones will find hope, healing through their grieving.
No. 53     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Darrell   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 12:34 PM     
I was out and about early this AM. Had to drive down near Detroit to Southfield and then over to Canton. When I left here, as expected, the weather was cold with sleet and snow. Very windy. As I neared Detroit I drove out of the sleet but still very windy. Returning home I drove back into the sleet and snow conditions.

I saw many trees downed. Most all appeared to have been blown down from their north side and fell onto their south sides. Lots of trees in the roads while many others look as if they could topple into the highway at any second. Saw one very tall power line pole sheared off about 5-6 feet from the top with the power lines now supporting it.



No. 54     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 12:47 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

Latest commentary on the storm from Dr. Barber -

"Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans on Monday August 29, 2005 and Hurricane Sandy hit New Jersey on Monday October 29, 2012 or 7 years and 2 months apart. Notice both dates are the 29th of the month. The sum of 29 is "11" (2+9=11) a high number on the occult calendar. Black Tuesday - Stock Market crash took place on October 29, 1929 (notice the two 29's);

Two major unprecedented storms hit the United States on the same day of the week and the same day of the month. Is there a divine pattern? God does things in 3's so does that mean a third major catastrophe will occur on some future Monday and on the 29th day of the month? History attests that 3 national catastrophe's have taken place on the 29th Day of October and two of them on the same day of the month. Happenstance, circumstance, accident, or fore-ordained?

We shall have to wait and see.

You decide."


http://www.thedayofthelordministries.com/


God is ramping things up, people. His word to us?

Prepare - get right with Me, do My will, build My kingdom!


Scientists themselves didn't understand this storm, this ought to tell us something...

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/features/2012/hurricane_sandy_and_climate_change/hurricane_sandy_hybrid_storm_kerry_emanuel_on_climate_change_and_storms.html
No. 55     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 2:55 PM     
And here's a little more from Dr. Barber, sent personally to me via email today -

"The United States is on the brink of total collapse but our leaders don't have a clue nor the people. Hurricane Sandy was another wake-up call from the Lord God of heaven and earth to repent and turn back to the Lord. The circumstances of how Sandy was formed to unite with two other weather patterns converging in the same area has the imprint of the "divine" all over it. Now what are we hearing this morning - "We are tough and resilient, we will rebuild!" Nothing along the lines of humility and asking God's forgiveness for our national sins. No sign of any need of repentance. God told Judah by the prophet Jeremiah that although He had struck them with drought, pestilence and leanness, they only grew more wicked in their sins as well as to completely ignore the judgments. They refused to repent, so God sent his army - the Babylonians to destroy their nation, the city of Jerusalem and the the pride of Judaism - the temple of Solomon. The United States no longer has a biblical worldview, so the leaders of the nation and the people have no insight into what God is doing among us and what He requires."
No. 56     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM     
A calamity of this proportion delivers as much injury to the economy as 9/11 did. It's going to take more than muscle and cleanup crews - and in the midst of a long recession only adds to the economic woes of our country, which is felt all around the world. What happens in America doesn't stay in America.
No. 57     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

And here's a little more from Dr. Barber, sent personally to me via email today -

"The United States is on the brink of total collapse but our leaders don't have a clue nor the people. Hurricane Sandy was another wake-up call from the Lord God of heaven and earth to repent and turn back to the Lord. The circumstances of how Sandy was formed to unite with two other weather patterns converging in the same area has the imprint of the "divine" all over it. Now what are we hearing this morning - "We are tough and resilient, we will rebuild!" Nothing along the lines of humility and asking God's forgiveness for our national sins. No sign of any need of repentance. God told Judah by the prophet Jeremiah that although He had struck them with drought, pestilence and leanness, they only grew more wicked in their sins as well as to completely ignore the judgments. They refused to repent, so God sent his army - the Babylonians to destroy their nation, the city of Jerusalem and the the pride of Judaism - the temple of Solomon. The United States no longer has a biblical worldview, so the leaders of the nation and the people have no insight into what God is doing among us and what He requires."


Excellent Excellent Excellent!
No. 58     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Elijah674   Gender: M   Age: 79   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 6:34 PM     
insular926 wrote:

Stormchaser wrote:

And here's a little more from Dr. Barber, sent personally to me via email today -

"The United States is on the brink of total collapse but our leaders don't have a clue nor the people. Hurricane Sandy was another wake-up call from the Lord God of heaven and earth to repent and turn back to the Lord. The circumstances of how Sandy was formed to unite with two other weather patterns converging in the same area has the imprint of the "divine" all over it. Now what are we hearing this morning - "We are tough and resilient, we will rebuild!" Nothing along the lines of humility and asking God's forgiveness for our national sins. No sign of any need of repentance. God told Judah by the prophet Jeremiah that although He had struck them with drought, pestilence and leanness, they only grew more wicked in their sins as well as to completely ignore the judgments. They refused to repent, so God sent his army - the Babylonians to destroy their nation, the city of Jerusalem and the the pride of Judaism - the temple of Solomon. The United States no longer has a biblical worldview, so the leaders of the nation and the people have no insight into what God is doing among us and what He requires."


Excellent Excellent Excellent!


Ok, what do we see that will be done next then?? REFORM?? Surely without Christ 'IN' old Israel, they needed Caesar for their 'Power'!! We have NO KING BUT CAESAR was their 'honest' cry. Church/State/+/666/Force & executioner's they all became!

And who here say's that Christ is 'IN' any of these Rev. 17:1-5 ABOMINATION OF THE EARTH ones???

And again 'UNITED' (Matt. 6:24) with what we allmost all agree on, huh? See the Lords Day Alliance, and surely this is what we most all mostly agree on, and this will appease an angry God we will see!

And what party will be instrumental in that as satan looks on smiling!?

--Elijah
No. 59     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 30, 2012 at 10:50 PM     
No. 60     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 31, 2012 at 11:31 AM     
No. 61     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 31, 2012 at 11:34 AM     
The NYC subways are shut down for an indeterminate length of time.

Now for NYC to have the subways shut down at all is another catastrophe since most New Yorkers rely on subways for their transportation. Many do not drive, and this will make a glut of passengers for the Metro Buses they will be unequipped to handle.

No. 62     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Oct 31, 2012 at 11:59 AM     
One of my sisters lives in Manhattan, she lives in the part that is at higher ground but since she's a professor for Yeshiva and takes the subway in, she will be idle for at least now.
No. 63     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Rebecca882   Gender: F   Age: 33   on  Oct 31, 2012 at 6:00 PM     
No. 64     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 68   on  Oct 31, 2012 at 9:42 PM     
Is ‘Sandy’ a sarcastic smile of God warning to the deviated and power-arrogant and Zionist biased people?

Is He telling them that weapons of mass destruction (WMD) are with Him, not in Iraq? :pray:
No. 65     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Christian_Gent   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Oct 31, 2012 at 10:27 PM     
jadefox wrote:

The NYC subways are shut down for an indeterminate length of time.

Now for NYC to have the subways shut down at all is another catastrophe since most New Yorkers rely on subways for their transportation.



That's a huge issue! Practically bringing the workforce to a standstill. I wonder how EMS is getting around to medical emergencies? How are the police patrolling the street to prevent crime?

From a video Brad posted earlier, it's hard to imagine how emergency personnel would get around because the streets were flooded. Perhaps with small boats like they did during Katrina. I don't know. Praying that the Lord help those he can.

No. 66     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 31, 2012 at 11:13 PM     
Christian_Gent wrote:

jadefox wrote:

The NYC subways are shut down for an indeterminate length of time.

Now for NYC to have the subways shut down at all is another catastrophe since most New Yorkers rely on subways for their transportation.



That's a huge issue! Practically bringing the workforce to a standstill. I wonder how EMS is getting around to medical emergencies? How are the police patrolling the street to prevent crime?

From a video Brad posted earlier, it's hard to imagine how emergency personnel would get around because the streets were flooded. Perhaps with small boats like they did during Katrina. I don't know. Praying that the Lord help those he can.



In the subway's one hundred year existence nothing of this magnitude has ever happened. It may be months before there will be a working subway system again. I don't see how the millions who depend on that to get around will manage by bus - there is practically no parking unless you can afford Manhattan prices, that are constantly sky high. Only the very rich and upper middle class can afford that luxury.

The jobs that will be lost, and the small businesses that will be forced to close will be unparalleled; possibly eclipsing the economic fallout of 9/11. The estimate of the storm's damage overall is now set at 50 billion.

Ironic that the storm surge flooded Wall Street, and downtown Manhattan, filling up the construction site where the New Twin Towers will be built. Another disaster only this time not man made.

Gov. Cuomo quipped that what used to be the "storm of a century" is becoming ever more frequent to the rate of two a year or more. How we'll cope as a country already reeling in a deep recession is anyone's guess.

No. 67     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Christian_Gent   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Oct 31, 2012 at 11:21 PM     


You know what? I'm very surprised that we even had a hurricane this late in the year! It's almost winter & we're having the "Storm of the Century" as you stated.

I was thinking about that earlier today. There are millions without power, who possibly won't have things "normal" for a long time.

No. 68     Reply: Re: NYC to the rescue - one pet owner and pet at a time   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Oct 31, 2012 at 11:38 PM     
This is the New York with a heart folks:

No. 69     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 1, 2012 at 12:50 AM     
I have to wonder if God just got really tired of NY City Mayor Bloomberg promoting something that is an abomination and God just let Bloomberg's City have it along the lines of something like, alright ole' buddy boy, you've been spending hundreds of thousands of dollars around the nation to promote something that I hate, now you and your City are going to pay.



NY Mayor Bloomberg backs gay marriage in three states with $500K in donations

By DAVID SEIFMAN
Last Updated: 7:11 PM, October 22, 2012
Posted: 3:57 PM, October 22, 2012






Mayor Bloomberg is coughing up another $500,000 to promote same sex marriage.

The mayor announced matching grants today in three states where marriage equality is on the ballot -- $250,000 for Washington and $125,000 each to Maine and Minnesota.

Advocates in each state would have to raise equal sums to receive the mayor’s money.

Bloomberg previously ponied up $250,000 to support a gay marriage referendum in Maryland.

He’s traveling to Baltimore on Friday to campaign on the issue with Gov. Martin O’Malley.

Last week, the mayor dispatched his top political aide, Deputy Mayor Howard Wolfson, to mount a last-minute drive to back candidates around the country who are in tight races and who agree with Bloomberg’s views on gay marriage, education reforms and stricter gun laws.

Wolfson has taken a leave of absence to dispense more than $10 million of Bloomberg’s cash in the last couple of weeks before the election.

david.seifman@nypost.com
No. 70     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Rebecca882   Gender: F   Age: 33   on  Nov 1, 2012 at 3:45 AM     
I don't know. I am struggling with the idea that this storm is a punishment from God.

I remember a few years ago when there were numerous fires in the area where I live. There are tons of Christians in this area who vote against the homosexual agenda and abortion, among other ungodly things, all the time. And yet some had the audacity to say that the fires were a punishment from God. Those fires were no where NEAR the homosexuals in "Sodom." It only affected the area where the faithful of God lived. If those fires had been a punishment from God, then God was unjustly punishing his people, who love him and desire to obey him always, for no reason. That doesn't make any logical sense.

It makes more sense that sometimes things just happen. As much as we hate to admit that time and chance happen to everyone, it is still true. Like the tower of Siloam that fell on 18 people, killing them (Luke 13:1-5). Better that we make sure we have repented, rather than worry about who is getting punished by God. It tends to make us prideful, even when that isn't our intention.

I think people too quickly, and without all the facts, form an opinion about what God may or may not be doing with others. I'm not saying there isn't a clear right and wrong in life, just that it doesn't seem to benefit anyone to assume the punishment of others, especially when we consider our LORD's answers to those who were all caught up in the supposed punishment of others. His point always being, if we ourselves are right with God and have repented.

Most of the time weather is just weather, except when it is HAARP.

No. 71     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Nov 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM     
insular926 wrote:

I have to wonder if God just got really tired of NY City Mayor Bloomberg promoting something that is an abomination and God just let Bloomberg's City have it along the lines of something like, alright ole' buddy boy, you've been spending hundreds of thousands of dollars around the nation to promote something that I hate, now you and your City are going to pay.



NY Mayor Bloomberg backs gay marriage in three states with $500K in donations

By DAVID SEIFMAN
Last Updated: 7:11 PM, October 22, 2012
Posted: 3:57 PM, October 22, 2012






Mayor Bloomberg is coughing up another $500,000 to promote same sex marriage.

The mayor announced matching grants today in three states where marriage equality is on the ballot -- $250,000 for Washington and $125,000 each to Maine and Minnesota.

Advocates in each state would have to raise equal sums to receive the mayor’s money.

Bloomberg previously ponied up $250,000 to support a gay marriage referendum in Maryland.

He’s traveling to Baltimore on Friday to campaign on the issue with Gov. Martin O’Malley.

Last week, the mayor dispatched his top political aide, Deputy Mayor Howard Wolfson, to mount a last-minute drive to back candidates around the country who are in tight races and who agree with Bloomberg’s views on gay marriage, education reforms and stricter gun laws.

Wolfson has taken a leave of absence to dispense more than $10 million of Bloomberg’s cash in the last couple of weeks before the election.

david.seifman@nypost.com


I'm surprised as a mayor he has that authority to usurp funds or donations to support gay rights in other states. If he's using his own money, that would or should still be a conflict of interest in acting as the mayor of NYC. His responsibilities are that of managing his city, not how other states vote or trying to persuade to make gay marriage legal. It should be outside the bounds of his office and official duties.

As a government employee he should be particularly careful in how he acts for there being a separation of his private beliefs and serving the public good. In federal positions or state capacity an employee would lose their jobs for politicking publicly whether on government time or outside of their work. This should be a clear violation and conflict of interest of his role as overseer of the largest city in America, who needs a mayor to act in their interest, not the interests of those promoting gay marriages and exporting New York's state law to elsewhere.

No. 72     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Denise   Gender: F   Age: 57   on  Nov 1, 2012 at 10:54 AM     
NEW YORK (Reuters) - New Yorkers awoke to the rumble of subway trains for the first time in four days on Thursday and the death toll continued to rise from the former hurricane Sandy, one of the biggest and most devastating storms ever to hit the United States.


I have no idea how they managed to get any part of the subway opened and running. 3 days ago it looked like an underground lake to me.

:shock:
No. 73     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Elijah674   Gender: M   Age: 79   on  Nov 2, 2012 at 7:06 AM     
Christian_Gent wrote:



You know what? I'm very surprised that we even had a hurricane this late in the year! It's almost winter & we're having the "Storm of the Century" as you stated.

I was thinking about that earlier today. There are millions without power, who possibly won't have things "normal" for a long time.



There are millions dieing daily worldwide who are without hope, and from no unnatural sources, and what is heard??? And then we see this & hear what??
Luke 12:47-48 finds the REAL JUDGEMENT.

[47] And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
[48] But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: ..'

No. 74     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Nov 3, 2012 at 10:26 AM     
Heard several news reports that non-union utility workers from Alabama came up to the Northern states to help get the (hundred of thousands?) hooked up with electricity again but the electrical unions rebuffed them, saying they were not welcome.

Wonder what the customers thought, if they even heard about it in the dark?
No. 75     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Dare2BBold   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Nov 3, 2012 at 11:11 AM     
Stormchaser wrote:

Heard several news reports that non-union utility workers from Alabama came up to the Northern states to help get the (hundred of thousands?) hooked up with electricity again but the electrical unions rebuffed them, saying they were not welcome.

Wonder what the customers thought, if they even heard about it in the dark?





Certainly does show a lack of compassion for those who are cold, hungry in the dark. In desparate need of warmth.

I would hope the customers would be able to forgive them.

Locally, South Dakota, a company declined to extend a gesture of compassion to a family who has been hurt, a fatal loss, by one of their employees. The incident is under investigation. I wonder if too often our society encourages people to protect/defend themselves from potential litigation ....not be a good samaritan, not extend compassion that may bite them later.

In the meantime people go/grow cold & hungry if others ignore their compassionate spirit.
No. 76     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Elijah674   Gender: M   Age: 79   on  Nov 3, 2012 at 11:14 AM     
Rebecca882 wrote:

I don't know. I am struggling with the idea that this storm is a punishment from God.

I remember a few years ago when there were numerous fires in the area where I live. There are tons of Christians in this area who vote against the homosexual agenda and abortion, among other ungodly things, all the time. And yet some had the audacity to say that the fires were a punishment from God. Those fires were no where NEAR the homosexuals in "Sodom." It only affected the area where the faithful of God lived. If those fires had been a punishment from God, then God was unjustly punishing his people, who love him and desire to obey him always, for no reason. That doesn't make any logical sense.

Check out Job to see what happens.
--Elijah
It makes more sense that sometimes things just happen. As much as we hate to admit that time and chance happen to everyone, it is still true. Like the tower of Siloam that fell on 18 people, killing them (Luke 13:1-5). Better that we make sure we have repented, rather than worry about who is getting punished by God. It tends to make us prideful, even when that isn't our intention.

I think people too quickly, and without all the facts, form an opinion about what God may or may not be doing with others. I'm not saying there isn't a clear right and wrong in life, just that it doesn't seem to benefit anyone to assume the punishment of others, especially when we consider our LORD's answers to those who were all caught up in the supposed punishment of others. His point always being, if we ourselves are right with God and have repented.

Most of the time weather is just weather, except when it is HAARP.



Check out Job to see what takes place!
No. 77     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 4, 2012 at 8:01 PM     
No. 78     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Christian_Gent   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Nov 4, 2012 at 9:25 PM     


Been reading that there's close to 40,000 homeless in NYC, mostly residents of public housing, will have to find new homes. That's an incredibly large number!

NYC Mayor is saying that public transportation should be up in a few days. Another problem is that the temperature is dropping between 30-35 degrees. And this is just NYC. There are other major cities in similar or worse conditions.

No. 79     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Nov 5, 2012 at 12:38 AM     
I heard today, at the casual, after-wedding gathering to open gifts, that a Nor'Easter is heading for NYC this coming week. Must be 'fun' to be a New Yoiker right now.
No. 80     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Denise   Gender: F   Age: 57   on  Nov 5, 2012 at 5:19 AM     
Christian_Gent wrote:



Been reading that there's close to 40,000 homeless in NYC, mostly residents of public housing, will have to find new homes. That's an incredibly large number!

NYC Mayor is saying that public transportation should be up in a few days. Another problem is that the temperature is dropping between 30-35 degrees. And this is just NYC. There are other major cities in similar or worse conditions.



In August 2012 the most accurate figures for the homeless population in NY stood at more than 50,000 people -- including more than 20,000 children. 46,600 homeless men, women, slept each night in the NYC municipal shelter system.

So when I hear the numbers 40,000 given in the media reports today I shake my head in disbelief.

http://www.coalitionforthehomeless.org/pages/basic-facts

And what about the regions surrounding NY.

There was a real concern for the homeless who may not have been able to leave prior to Sandy. Fleeing wasn't an option for them. I suspect that the death count just may be higher than any reports given because moving 50,000 already displaced people out of a city in chaos would be virtually impossible.

No. 81     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Dare2BBold   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Nov 5, 2012 at 7:17 AM     
Denise wrote:

In August 2012 the most accurate figures for the homeless population in NY stood at more than 50,000 people -- including more than 20,000 children. 46,600 homeless men, women, slept each night in the NYC municipal shelter system.

So when I hear the numbers 40,000 given in the media reports today I shake my head in disbelief.

http://www.coalitionforthehomeless.org/pages/basic-facts

And what about the regions surrounding NY.

There was a real concern for the homeless who may not have been able to leave prior to Sandy. Fleeing wasn't an option for them. I suspect that the death count just may be higher than any reports given because moving $50,000 already displaced people out of a city in chaos would be virtually impossible.



Agreed, numbers reported are never able to give a complete pic...

yes, some of the homeless, some who've been living off the grid simply can't be accounted for accurately.

Numbers do have importance...as a tool to guide us in a direction that can tangibly feed, clothe, house people when they've lost the ability to do so themselves.
No. 82     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Denise   Gender: F   Age: 57   on  Nov 5, 2012 at 8:43 AM     
I think the numbers of those being displaced out of government projects is 20,000. It would be impossible to verify those numbers.

Combining the numbers of already homeless, with those left homeless by Sandy should - even using conservative figures - total more than 70,000 people.

A British woman contacted me two weeks ago wanting help for a homeless man in LA. He and his handicapped brother lost their home, and are trying to save their worldly possessions. ( Family heirlooms etc placed in storage)

She couldn't understand why she was finding it so hard to get people to donate to relieve human suffering but I fear my words came as no comfort to her.

With 4 million homeless it's overwhelming.

She writes to me almost daily on Facebook and I have put her in contact with homeless advocates and people like Shaun at Hopemob - but reality is a bitter pill for her to swallow.

No. 83     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Gary208   Gender: M   Age: 65   on  Nov 5, 2012 at 9:12 AM     
At our small Church yesterday, we had five visiting families, each with an interesting story to tell.

They came from back east, before Sandy hit, before it was even a threat.
None of the five families were on scheduled vacation time.
In all cases, their trip southwest was unplanned, and they each felt an urgency to go visit someone or someplace.
They packed light, because they didn't plan on staying long, but circumstances held them at their destination longer than intended.

One of them worked in the World Trade Center, but on 9/11, after having never missed a day of work since taking that job, he rode to the hospital with his son in the ambulance. His son was OK, not appendicitis as everyone thought, just a severe stomach cramp. Many other Christians who should have been at work on 9/11 had reasons for missing work that day.

Two of the families have no home to go back to. Their homes were destroyed. And both said, they normally stayed home, never evacuated for a storm as long as they lived there.

One of the women, a grade school teacher, gave three different accounts of most unusual circumstances that if they did not happen when they did, she would not be here today. One could set their clock as to when she left her house to head to work at the school. Just as she did everyday before going out the door, when she began to unplug her coffee maker, the cord shorted and began to burn. She ran to the breaker and killed the power to the house, at this same instant, a truck crashed into her front door. Normally, she would have been on the door stoop at that exact moment, locking her door. Another incident, she saw an elderly lady fall while attempting to cross the street, she set down her bags to help the lady up. The place she stood waiting for the bus, a metal awning from a building crashed down in that very spot, crushing the bag she left there.

None of these folks felt it a coincidence that the Lord led them to be away from home when disaster struck. Nor that they were delayed from returning home. As one older fellow put it, my brother called me to pick him up and take him to work, as his car would not start. Shortly before I arrived back home, a tree fell into my house, right onto the roof at the living room window, the chair I would have been sitting in was crushed, the legs of which driven through the flooring and were sticking into the basement. My brother had never called me to take him to work before. Now this Hurricane took my whole house, and we are here safe and sound. Yes, we probably lost everything, but our lives were spared, and things can be replaced.

Another said he has received several phone call on his cell phone, asking if they were OK, and upon finding they were not at home, but in TN, for no logical reason, others were saying the same thing. We were called because mom or dad was sick, so we were not at home either.

So the Lord does help some of His family get away from disaster areas!

I wonder how many other churches have families with similar stories?

TTUL
Gary
No. 84     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Nov 5, 2012 at 9:20 AM     
Some good points there, Gary, and ones where you can make a case of God sending or allowing the storm to happen as his displeasure of the sin and corruption of mankind, specifically NYC at the moment, yet looking after His own. Now that my time is freed up again, I will revisit this argument in this thread in the coming days.
No. 85     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 5, 2012 at 10:27 AM     
Hurricane Tony is coming right behind Sandy, it will be here in the next two days.
No. 86     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Rebecca882   Gender: F   Age: 33   on  Nov 9, 2012 at 5:54 PM     
Elijah674 wrote:

Rebecca882 wrote:

I don't know. I am struggling with the idea that this storm is a punishment from God.

I remember a few years ago when there were numerous fires in the area where I live. There are tons of Christians in this area who vote against the homosexual agenda and abortion, among other ungodly things, all the time. And yet some had the audacity to say that the fires were a punishment from God. Those fires were no where NEAR the homosexuals in "Sodom." It only affected the area where the faithful of God lived. If those fires had been a punishment from God, then God was unjustly punishing his people, who love him and desire to obey him always, for no reason. That doesn't make any logical sense.

Check out Job to see what happens.
--Elijah
It makes more sense that sometimes things just happen. As much as we hate to admit that time and chance happen to everyone, it is still true. Like the tower of Siloam that fell on 18 people, killing them (Luke 13:1-5). Better that we make sure we have repented, rather than worry about who is getting punished by God. It tends to make us prideful, even when that isn't our intention.

I think people too quickly, and without all the facts, form an opinion about what God may or may not be doing with others. I'm not saying there isn't a clear right and wrong in life, just that it doesn't seem to benefit anyone to assume the punishment of others, especially when we consider our LORD's answers to those who were all caught up in the supposed punishment of others. His point always being, if we ourselves are right with God and have repented.

Most of the time weather is just weather, except when it is HAARP.



Check out Job to see what takes place!


Are you suggesting that God is testing his people like he tested Job? And using a natural disaster to do so?
No. 87     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Elijah674   Gender: M   Age: 79   on  Nov 9, 2012 at 7:36 PM     
Rebecca882 wrote:

Elijah674 wrote:

Rebecca882 wrote:

I don't know. I am struggling with the idea that this storm is a punishment from God.

I remember a few years ago when there were numerous fires in the area where I live. There are tons of Christians in this area who vote against the homosexual agenda and abortion, among other ungodly things, all the time. And yet some had the audacity to say that the fires were a punishment from God. Those fires were no where NEAR the homosexuals in "Sodom." It only affected the area where the faithful of God lived. If those fires had been a punishment from God, then God was unjustly punishing his people, who love him and desire to obey him always, for no reason. That doesn't make any logical sense.

Check out Job to see what happens.
--Elijah
It makes more sense that sometimes things just happen. As much as we hate to admit that time and chance happen to everyone, it is still true. Like the tower of Siloam that fell on 18 people, killing them (Luke 13:1-5). Better that we make sure we have repented, rather than worry about who is getting punished by God. It tends to make us prideful, even when that isn't our intention.

I think people too quickly, and without all the facts, form an opinion about what God may or may not be doing with others. I'm not saying there isn't a clear right and wrong in life, just that it doesn't seem to benefit anyone to assume the punishment of others, especially when we consider our LORD's answers to those who were all caught up in the supposed punishment of others. His point always being, if we ourselves are right with God and have repented.

Most of the time weather is just weather, except when it is HAARP.



Check out Job to see what takes place!


Are you suggesting that God is testing his people like he tested Job? And using a natural disaster to do so?


It could be that way, one cannot know for sure for all of these Matt. 24:21 allowed tribulations. But my bottomline thought was that satan was the one very often causing the diasters as I see it. God takes the heat so to speak for allowing it, (see 1 Kings 22:19-22) but in reality earth is becoming more corrupt daily and the Holy Spirit as I see it is again being grieved away (Gen. 6:3) from most, & falling on a class who are trying to live by the Grace of Christ as He requires. Phil. 4:13

--Elijah
No. 88     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Nov 9, 2012 at 8:10 PM     
My take on this is though Satan has the run of the Earth for a time, God still controls the weather.

Sounds like a good subject to do an in depth Bible study on, eh?
No. 89     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 9, 2012 at 11:01 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

My take on this is though Satan has the run of the Earth for a time, God still controls the weather.

Sounds like a good subject to do an in depth Bible study on, eh?


YES
! I wonder if there is a good Bible Study Series from someone out there on this?
No. 90     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Elijah674   Gender: M   Age: 79   on  Nov 10, 2012 at 6:44 AM     
Elijah674 wrote:

Rebecca882 wrote:

Elijah674 wrote:

Rebecca882 wrote:

I don't know. I am struggling with the idea that this storm is a punishment from God.

I remember a few years ago when there were numerous fires in the area where I live. There are tons of Christians in this area who vote against the homosexual agenda and abortion, among other ungodly things, all the time. And yet some had the audacity to say that the fires were a punishment from God. Those fires were no where NEAR the homosexuals in "Sodom." It only affected the area where the faithful of God lived. If those fires had been a punishment from God, then God was unjustly punishing his people, who love him and desire to obey him always, for no reason. That doesn't make any logical sense.

Check out Job to see what happens.
--Elijah
It makes more sense that sometimes things just happen. As much as we hate to admit that time and chance happen to everyone, it is still true. Like the tower of Siloam that fell on 18 people, killing them (Luke 13:1-5). Better that we make sure we have repented, rather than worry about who is getting punished by God. It tends to make us prideful, even when that isn't our intention.

I think people too quickly, and without all the facts, form an opinion about what God may or may not be doing with others. I'm not saying there isn't a clear right and wrong in life, just that it doesn't seem to benefit anyone to assume the punishment of others, especially when we consider our LORD's answers to those who were all caught up in the supposed punishment of others. His point always being, if we ourselves are right with God and have repented.

Most of the time weather is just weather, except when it is HAARP.



Check out Job to see what takes place!


Are you suggesting that God is testing his people like he tested Job? And using a natural disaster to do so?


It could be that way, one cannot know for sure for all of these Matt. 24:21 allowed tribulations. But my bottomline thought was that satan was the one very often causing the diasters as I see it. God takes the heat so to speak for allowing it, (see 1 Kings 22:19-22) but in reality earth is becoming more corrupt daily and the Holy Spirit as I see it is again being grieved away (Gen. 6:3) from most, & falling on a class who are trying to live by the Grace of Christ as He requires. Phil. 4:13

--Elijah



Beck.. you seem so sincere!

We see things somewhat differently in the 'postings' at least. Let me send this one along for your testing truth by truth & see what you think? 1 Cor. 14:32 Matt. 24 is the WORD OF CHRIST GOD. We read several questions asked & then answered by Christ. See if these are hard to understand? First we see..

[1] And Jesus went out, and departed [from the temple]: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
[2] And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

[3] And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

[I had only posted up some few things of year 2011 from the News that are said to be.. ‘12 billion-dollar weather disasters’. (you go back to re/read it?) in between Matt. 24 I had not commented on,
if there was any interest, I would do so.]

[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

(and Beck, who causes this time of trouble? is of great importance to understand! compare Isa. 5:4-5 which has the answer in this case! + Job 1:12 when the Holy Spirit is removed from planet earth little by little, God's 'Hedge' of Protection is also removed. But not for the True Christian. see 1 Cor. 12:9, then who takes over!)

[22] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. (this verse is where I stopped
but Christ continues on. And the sign of His coming + the end of the world finds drastic changes, not only in Great Tribulation escalating right up to His Second Coming as He stated.. no, or ever shall be.’ But
lets read on & see if this is what takes place??)

[23] Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
(never had I ever thought that people could be drawn in by believing the false preteriost doctrine, and yet we find it coming in all over the place. One person on another site says that he is Christ! The kingdom
is inside of him.)

[24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
[25] Behold, I have told you before.

_____________

(we now need this passage seen in 2 Thess. 2 to find that indeed satan’s men will work real miracles! Just suppose that you are who you are, and need ‘healing’, would the elect of Christ/God go to these one while
knowing that they teach anti/Christ stuff? So as I see it, this will be next on the CLOSING scene!)

[9] Even him, whose coming is [[[after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders]]],
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
_____________

(now back to the verse following Matt. 24:21 on)

[26] Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
[27] For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; [[so shall also the coming of the Son of man be]].

[28] For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
[29] Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
[30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
[31] And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

(and this is
the Inspired WORD of Christ!)

---Elijah




No. 91     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Dare2BBold   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Nov 10, 2012 at 6:56 AM     
insular926 wrote:

Stormchaser wrote:

My take on this is though Satan has the run of the Earth for a time, God still controls the weather.

Sounds like a good subject to do an in depth Bible study on, eh?


YES
! I wonder if there is a good Bible Study Series from someone out there on this?


I'm sure there are several worth considering be involved in. The Meeting House has several resources that might direct you to one....


....oh & I love their humor!

http://www.themeetinghouse.com/q-and-eh/

Q:
Will I have to pray in front of people?

Eh:
Only after the dance competition – just kidding! There is NO expectation to pray aloud.





"Zing went the strings of my heart! " :dance:


No. 92     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Dare2BBold   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Nov 10, 2012 at 7:08 AM     
insular926 wrote:

Stormchaser wrote:

My take on this is though Satan has the run of the Earth for a time, God still controls the weather.

Sounds like a good subject to do an in depth Bible study on, eh?


YES
! I wonder if there is a good Bible Study Series from someone out there on this?



Orrrr.... a more direct link offering some ( we will always be inclined to think our knowledge is completely accurate...& yes there are times we're to have confidence...peacefully so, when we believe we do, as CG shared in a video this week, but through all things....as Hebrews 12 ...also worth doing a good Bible Study on...reminds us, we're to have our minds/hearts on following Jesus ) Biblical wisdom on the subject ...

http://reknew.org/2009/08/did-god-send-a-tornado-to-warn-the-elca/

No. 93     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Dare2BBold   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Nov 10, 2012 at 7:13 AM     
...but this is the practical link I came to share. People who are offering to help people...those who were affected by the storm, or those who want to offer to help.

http://www.shareable.net/blog/airbnb-helps-homeless-sandy-victims-find-free-shelter
No. 94     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Elijah674   Gender: M   Age: 79   on  Nov 10, 2012 at 7:39 AM     
Verbatim wrote:

After the Holy Spirit is taken out of the way, that lawless one will be revealed, his evil sinister personage sums up "the mystery of iniquity" and the last-day miracle-working demonic influences.
[Revelation 9.1-21...Revelation12.7-17...and Revelation 16.13-16. He will be destroyed by the comming of the Lord of lords and the King of kings' glory...Revelation 19.20 and Revelation 20.10.
Satan will be bound in the abyss...Revelation 20.1-3.

Those "who are perishing" are the unsaved--those who are not "born again; they are still living on the earth after the 'Church' is translated. Rejecting truth when it was available results now in 'demonic delusion'..."because they did not receive the love of truth, that they might be saved--born again, before the Church was glorified.

The reason for their doom
...because they did not love and accept God's love and His Written Word--the TRUTH when it was ready and available, so to that avail, God sends a "strong delusion," an inworking of deception. to believe THE LIE...the supreme deception of accepting the Antichrist...John 5.43 and Revelation 13.8, 16-18.

The delusion is sent so they might be judged and found guilty for not having believed the truth, but having pleasure in unrighteousness instead and serving that "wicked one." For those in rebellion rejecting the Saviour--the Lord, wresting the Word of God and for those pretending, the Christ say's this...Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.


Those who believe the truth, and are sanctified by the Spirit, who were also called by the gospel to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ, who have also received everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, who are loved by God, beloved of the LORD, are "us", "you", "our", "ye", "we",and "brethren".



Oh Lord, praise you for you are God

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


Elijah here:
This is the way that God has it found!

This is a post that I put up on another site.

I read that [[[post]]] & do not agree with the [[[post]]]!
'i' see NO human life left upon earth during the 1000 years other than satan & his angels crew. When Christ comes this Second time, all wicked die and are dead! and the dead RIGHTEOUS have their FIRST RESURRECTION & they & the living RIGHTEOUS leave desolate earth for this period of 1000 years.

It is after that 1000 years that they all come back to await (SEE!) their VERDICT'S EXECUTIONSAL STAGE of the FINAL SECOND DEATH of satan & the pre/judged ALL STILL DEAD ONES [SECOND ETERNAL DEATH ONES]. But first they must have their resurrection, huh!

SO: Before the New Jerusalem set down in her [PROMISED LAND], ALL OF THE WICKED will now have their resurrection! They were already PRE/JUDGED LOST when Christ brought His REWARD WITH HIM at His Second Coming. (Eccl. 12:13-14 Rev. 22:12)

Think of the billions of wicked + fallen angels & satan, these humans come out of the grave the same way that they entered into it,(Gen. 4:7) so satan once again is 'LOOSED FROM his prison' (of circumstances) & they still believe this liar from the beginning, & believe that they can take the City of New Jerusalem! (think Matt. 7's Broadway & what NUMBERS mean to these one still!)

Then FIRE COMES DOWN FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN and cleanses the lower heaven + all of the earth from sin, SIN + SINNERS! This is hell & the SECOND 'ETERNAL' DEATH! (see Luke 12:47-48 for the by far worse sinner! + Obadiah 1:16 FINAL OBLITERATION OF SIN + SINNER!)
(This 'FIRE' is the Lords DOING!)

All of this will take place right before the eyes of the Saints. The EXECUTION of each with it being according to their 'type' of JURY JUDGEMENT which they had a part of! (1 Cor. 6:2-3)

It is then that God recreates the New Heavens & the New Earth & New Jerusalem will sit down in the Promised Land of Zech. 14:1-6

--Elijah

PS: Time is about all over! Judgement begines with the 'HOUSE OF GOD' to start with. What is done to reach our loved ones & forum lost loved ones, must be done now. If one truely LOVED CHRIST & those who He died for, how can we be so concerned about our feelings & being liked above True Loving duty? Most shun the Spiritual hard duties that go against their human lukewarm part of Loving Work, and do as is seen in Numbers 16:3

No. 95     Reply: Re: Re: Sandy   
By:  Elijah674   Gender: M   Age: 79   on  Nov 10, 2012 at 11:28 AM     
Elijah674 wrote:

Verbatim wrote:

After the Holy Spirit is taken out of the way, that lawless one will be revealed, his evil sinister personage sums up "the mystery of iniquity" and the last-day miracle-working demonic influences.
[Revelation 9.1-21...Revelation12.7-17...and Revelation 16.13-16. He will be destroyed by the comming of the Lord of lords and the King of kings' glory...Revelation 19.20 and Revelation 20.10.
Satan will be bound in the abyss...Revelation 20.1-3.

Those "who are perishing" are the unsaved--those who are not "born again; they are still living on the earth after the 'Church' is translated. Rejecting truth when it was available results now in 'demonic delusion'..."because they did not receive the love of truth, that they might be saved--born again, before the Church was glorified.

The reason for their doom
...because they did not love and accept God's love and His Written Word--the TRUTH when it was ready and available, so to that avail, God sends a "strong delusion," an inworking of deception. to believe THE LIE...the supreme deception of accepting the Antichrist...John 5.43 and Revelation 13.8, 16-18.

The delusion is sent so they might be judged and found guilty for not having believed the truth, but having pleasure in unrighteousness instead and serving that "wicked one." For those in rebellion rejecting the Saviour--the Lord, wresting the Word of God and for those pretending, the Christ say's this...Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.


Those who believe the truth, and are sanctified by the Spirit, who were also called by the gospel to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ, who have also received everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, who are loved by God, beloved of the LORD, are "us", "you", "our", "ye", "we",and "brethren".



Oh Lord, praise you for you are God

And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.


Elijah here:
This is the way that God has it found!

This is a post that I put up on another site.

I read that [[[post]]] & do not agree with the [[[post]]]!
'i' see NO human life left upon earth during the 1000 years other than satan & his angels crew. When Christ comes this Second time, all wicked die and are dead! and the dead RIGHTEOUS have their FIRST RESURRECTION & they & the living RIGHTEOUS leave desolate earth for this period of 1000 years.

It is after that 1000 years that they all come back to await (SEE!) their VERDICT'S EXECUTIONSAL STAGE of the FINAL SECOND DEATH of satan & the pre/judged ALL STILL DEAD ONES [SECOND ETERNAL DEATH ONES]. But first they must have their resurrection, huh!

SO: Before the New Jerusalem set down in her [PROMISED LAND], ALL OF THE WICKED will now have their resurrection! They were already PRE/JUDGED LOST when Christ brought His REWARD WITH HIM at His Second Coming. (Eccl. 12:13-14 Rev. 22:12)

Think of the billions of wicked + fallen angels & satan, these humans come out of the grave the same way that they entered into it,(Gen. 4:7) so satan once again is 'LOOSED FROM his prison' (of circumstances) & they still believe this liar from the beginning, & believe that they can take the City of New Jerusalem! (think Matt. 7's Broadway & what NUMBERS mean to these one still!)

Then FIRE COMES DOWN FROM GOD OUT OF HEAVEN and cleanses the lower heaven + all of the earth from sin, SIN + SINNERS! This is hell & the SECOND 'ETERNAL' DEATH! (see Luke 12:47-48 for the by far worse sinner! + Obadiah 1:16 FINAL OBLITERATION OF SIN + SINNER!)
(This 'FIRE' is the Lords DOING!)

All of this will take place right before the eyes of the Saints. The EXECUTION of each with it being according to their 'type' of JURY JUDGEMENT which they had a part of! (1 Cor. 6:2-3)

It is then that God recreates the New Heavens & the New Earth & New Jerusalem will sit down in the Promised Land of Zech. 14:1-6

--Elijah

PS: Time is about all over! Judgement begines with the 'HOUSE OF GOD' to start with. What is done to reach our loved ones & forum lost loved ones, must be done now. If one truely LOVED CHRIST & those who He died for, how can we be so concerned about our feelings & being liked above True Loving duty? Most shun the Spiritual hard duties that go against their human lukewarm part of Loving Work, and do as is seen in Numbers 16:3



Hi again. Let me just also ask about us 'all' dieing? Does it really matter how we die to any except the ones who are left behind??

So this is another point to consider. Just say that you have a boy or girl, or two? that are now grown. And that they have had the 'SEED' only sown, so far.

And that the seed had found them only so far taught the Lord's will, (but that 'knowledge' they had had planted) yet, they have not accepted it yet. And regardless of where they are at in being the son's of thunder or the Luke 12:47-48 fakes matters nothing. Except... Christ does say that he that has sinned most will love the most because he has been forgiven most.

OK: Now comes the Matt. 24:21 on verses, suppose that the mature 'kids' parents are caught in this Matt. 24:21 thing, and that they are killed. (say that God allowed it either way!) And He knew that for these youngin's that this was all that was needed to have them to accept Him.

Now ask yourself if that would be your desire???

--Elijah
No. 96     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 11, 2012 at 6:18 AM     
Sandy has become Obama's Katrina.
No. 97     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 13, 2012 at 9:35 AM     
No. 98     Reply: Re: FEMA   
By:  jadefox   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Nov 13, 2012 at 1:51 PM     
I've been called up to be a FEMA volunteer for the next few weeks, processing claims from storm victims.

My area didn't get hit nearly so bad, just a downed Wisteria in my driveway, and I cleared it myself.

Did you know even a phone call to your insurance agent counts as a hit on your homeowner's insurance? For just asking a question? Not even filing a claim, and it's a strike against you if the company wants to drop you later. They do so after 2-3 "hits."
No. 99     Reply: Re: Re: FEMA   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 59   on  Nov 13, 2012 at 2:35 PM     
jadefox wrote:

I've been called up to be a FEMA volunteer for the next few weeks, processing claims from storm victims.

My area didn't get hit nearly so bad, just a downed Wisteria in my driveway, and I cleared it myself.

Did you know even a phone call to your insurance agent counts as a hit on your homeowner's insurance? For just asking a question? Not even filing a claim, and it's a strike against you if the company wants to drop you later. They do so after 2-3 "hits."


Get Denise to have them 'occupied'.
No. 100     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Nov 14, 2012 at 9:19 AM     
No. 101     Reply: Re: Sandy   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 12:13 AM     
Looking at this almost 5 year old thread some people thought it was the end of the world or the worst Hurricane to hit American shores.

The hysteria is amazing, the conspiracies, lol.


Here we are 5 years later, and a worse one has hit, Harvery.

The earth is still turning, FEMA is still responding to major disasters and emergencies.

No one has been gathered up and exterminated in a FEMA camp.

A few here have died if natural causes, health related issues mostly.

Life is still going on...