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No. 0     Original Topic:  Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Sep 20, 2009 at 8:55 PM   Viewed 30800 times     
.:unsure:.
No. 1     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  FROG   Gender: F   Age: 40   on  Sep 20, 2009 at 9:00 PM     
For a while now and he's not the only one.
No. 2     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  joyful   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Sep 20, 2009 at 9:25 PM     
Too bad. About the worst thing i ever saw him do was to lay out the plan of salvation real simple to someone who didn t want to accept it but just wanted to argue. :-(
No. 3     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  hi_there   Gender: M   Age: 47   on  Sep 20, 2009 at 9:52 PM     

another one finds sanity.
No. 4     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Dare2BBold   Gender: F   Age: 49   on  Sep 20, 2009 at 10:18 PM     
hi_there wrote:


another one finds sanity.


and then there were eight?

Seriously, yes, I'd noticed some time ago he was gone....he was a frequent poster...as several people have commented to me behind the scenes this place is looking rather scarce. It's nice to see a few others step forward & begin posting. Perhaps more will begin to....
No. 5     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Patrick   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 20, 2009 at 10:24 PM     
Most of us have something to say. Too often though we find ourselves sucked into a downward spiral of negativity. Then, without realizing it, you commit the 'unpardonable' offense and *poof* ....... you're gone.

Easier and safer to just watch.
No. 6     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  MountainMan   Gender: M   Age: 67   on  Sep 20, 2009 at 10:46 PM     
Not near the arguing anymore though. It is a much more peaceful room than it was...just tlak nice and ya don't get fired...
No. 7     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Angelfish   Gender: F   Age: 30   on  Sep 20, 2009 at 11:03 PM     
I enjoyed reading his posts/threads. I was wondering why I wasn't seeing anything by him lately. I liked the guy and will miss him.
No. 8     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Dare2BBold   Gender: F   Age: 49   on  Sep 20, 2009 at 11:04 PM     
Patrick wrote:

Most of us have something to say. Too often though we find ourselves sucked into a downward spiral of negativity. Then, without realizing it, you commit the 'unpardonable' offense and *poof* ....... you're gone.

Easier and safer to just watch.


My immediate response was "oh, no,no,no,!" in regards to spiraling downward into negativity, I've never been one to be so easily affected by negativity....but you're right. I've often avoided logging on wondering what I might find....because I have discovered I have been affected by some of the negativity....I've come to realize over the years I've created my own little bubble living in a peaceful world of my own making. I telecommute. Don't have to contend with water cooler gossip. I choose my friends very carefully...they do have interests, faiths which differ from mine so we're not the "Same" but there is definitely a strong level of respect, consideration for one another...feeling free to speak our minds & not be judged,labeled negatively in one others eyes....but that's a tiny circle...this is a VERY DIVERSE group of people here.
I've also discovered I find it very difficult to speak in depth in discussion groups...cuz it's not easy to share the deeper thoughts with people who are quick to shout you down. I've seen that quite a bit here...I don't read those narrow minded posters anymore...but I have learned that there are many good posters who really just want to share their thoughts, their insights ....not to convict anyone to do better, BE better, not to get someone to conform to their point of view but out of recognizing that we can only learn & grow if we open up & share with one other...yup, it's a vulnerable place to be.

I'm sorry....I really do respect the fact some of you aren't comfortable with posting....I don't want you to feel I'm trying to push you into something you don't want to do....but I have noticed others tentatively speaking, others tentatively joining in...yet they're often overlooked...whether by intent or whether an oversight I'm still trying to work that out myself....I encourage them to continue, & encourage others who may want to but are experiencing cold feet to go ahead & give it a try A good friend recently deleted which makes me very sad. She had a lot to offer. I know some appreciated her to a degree, but she too was tired of not being able to speak freely, speak easily...but she wasn't afraid of going "poof" from admin. She was tired of being ignored by the regular posters who decided they no longer liked her points of view.

Hmmmmm, sorry, went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off topic, didn't I?

Sometimes I enjoyed Bahamamans's posts, sometimes I didn't. I don't know if he left by choice or was let go. I don't really need to know the answer either.... I just want to acknowledge he was a contributer who is missed. And there are others (yes plural & by choice from what little I know) who have gone just as quietly who are also missed.
No. 9     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Lots_of_Trouble   Gender: M   Age: 41   on  Sep 20, 2009 at 11:27 PM     
Maybe we should have a virtual eulogy for the virtually departed. I'll start:

I'll miss his blue hair, it is so unfair...
No. 11     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Bulldog   Gender: M   Age: 53   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 8:56 AM     
kittenshere263 wrote:

Bahama Man, he's gone?

Flop Flop Fizz Fizz oh what a relief it is.

what will I miss about him...absoultely N O T H I N G.

How one can claim to be a christian and be full of such hatred inside their soul is beyond me. That kind of behavior is not of God.

im sorry to the ones who disagree but hatred from head to toe is ALL I ever saw in bahama man. They say there is good in everyone. Im sure there is. I just never found it in him. This is just my own personal opinion of what I myself witnessed as I watched him daily degrade other humans.

You are totally wrong about Bahama Man (as you are about a great, many things) :sick:
No. 12     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 8:58 AM     
Bulldog, I am not at all wrong in what I saw in him. No one has to agree with me. I know what I saw in him. Notice I said, WHAT I SAW IN HIM. Not what others saw but what I myself saw and watched daily. the good, the bad, the ugly, the wicked, the whatever....they all have friends. so your opinion is fine. You opinion will not change my opinion on who he was AS I SAW HIM. you stick with your opinion and I will stick with mine.
No. 13     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Curtis   Gender: M   Age: 46   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM     
I do miss Bahama man.
He was a clown, a cut up...But stood up for what he believed in, and I often agreed with him...He has been around here a long time, Under different names...Coleman, Hunter...

I havent seen Fred around either, Anyone heard from him?

Curt,
No. 14     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  FROG   Gender: F   Age: 40   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 10:42 AM     
Bulldog wrote:

kittenshere263 wrote:

Bahama Man, he's gone?

Flop Flop Fizz Fizz oh what a relief it is.

what will I miss about him...absoultely N O T H I N G.

How one can claim to be a christian and be full of such hatred inside their soul is beyond me. That kind of behavior is not of God.

im sorry to the ones who disagree but hatred from head to toe is ALL I ever saw in bahama man. They say there is good in everyone. Im sure there is. I just never found it in him. This is just my own personal opinion of what I myself witnessed as I watched him daily degrade other humans.

You are totally wrong about Bahama Man (as you are about a great, many things) :sick:


:goodpost:
No. 15     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Deveray   Gender: M   Age: 53   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 10:55 AM     
Patrick wrote:

Most of us have something to say. Too often though we find ourselves sucked into a downward spiral of negativity. Then, without realizing it, you commit the 'unpardonable' offense and *poof* ....... you're gone.

Easier and safer to just watch.

Oh my, does it seem that scary to risk making a mistake? :shock: Trust me, nobody ever gets banned for anything less than repeated instances of verbal abuse or other signficant rule violations.

And for the record, Bahama_man chose on his own to depart. Nothing was even said to him. I like the guy. Yet he has always opposed forums being moderated. I am left to only guess that may have contributed to his reasoning, along with other disagreements about how the site is run.

Fred left of his own too.

After the fracas of a couple months back, four members were stopped from further participation. One requested permission to return. He is now with us again. Another is welcome back if wanting that and pledging to abide by policy.

The final two are no longer welcome here, as history demonstrated a repeated pattern of friction and deep hurt surrounding their presence, along with a lack of respect for the very few rules placed on members.

That said, everyone can petition for another chance. I can't actually think of anyone who has ever been denied after asking to return. It troubles me greatly when anyone among those we've come to know is no longer around, either through his own choice or based on administrative action.

No need to ever wonder about what has become of people. Everyone is invited to merely send an email to find out what, if anything, is known by moi.
No. 16     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 12:54 PM     
Fred still has a profile on here so maybe he's just been busy.
No. 17     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 1:13 PM     
insular926 wrote:

Fred still has a profile on here so maybe he's just been busy.


probably so. although it dont seem like it but there is life outside of forums or maybe he just wnated a break. either way, hopefully he will return. him not deleteing his profile is a good sign I would think.
No. 18     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  sweet_lady   Gender: F   Age: 43   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 1:31 PM     
hardly ever do I ever reply on forums because ,,,,,,,,,, but I also miss BAHAMA_MAN .I always enjoyed his posts/threads . he just told it just like it is !!!!! I miss him on the forums.
Kittenshere263: why not just keep your remarks to yourself? this is a whole lot of problem on the Forums. if you can't say anything good about a person why say anything at all? why not just keep it to yourself? then everyone feels better see?
No. 19     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 1:33 PM     
sweet_lady wrote:

hardly ever do I ever reply on forums because ,,,,,,,,,, but I also miss BAHAMA_MAN .I always enjoyed his posts/threads . he just told it just like it is !!!!! I miss him on the forums.
Kittenshere263: why not just keep your remarks to yourself? this is a whole lot of problem on the Forums. if you can't say anything good about a person why say anything at all? why not just keep it to yourself? then everyone feels better see?


lol maybe you should email him if you miss him so much. the two of you can spend all your days discussing all the people in the world you strongly dislike and why. Dont let me stop ya. party on. bye bye.
No. 20     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  sweet_lady   Gender: F   Age: 43   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM     
kittenshere263 wrote:

sweet_lady wrote:

hardly ever do I ever reply on forums because ,,,,,,,,,, but I also miss BAHAMA_MAN .I always enjoyed his posts/threads . he just told it just like it is !!!!! I miss him on the forums.
Kittenshere263: why not just keep your remarks to yourself? this is a whole lot of problem on the Forums. if you can't say anything good about a person why say anything at all? why not just keep it to yourself? then everyone feels better see?


maybe you should email him if you miss him so much. the two of you can spend lovely days discussing all the people in the world you strongly dislike and why. If thats what makes your day, then party on. bye bye.
(thank you )
No. 21     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 1:43 PM     
you are most welcome.
No. 22     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  sweet_lady   Gender: F   Age: 43   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 1:46 PM     
sweet_lady wrote:

kittenshere263 wrote:

sweet_lady wrote:

hardly ever do I ever reply on forums because ,,,,,,,,,, but I also miss BAHAMA_MAN .I always enjoyed his posts/threads . he just told it just like it is !!!!! I miss him on the forums.
Kittenshere263: why not just keep your remarks to yourself? this is a whole lot of problem on the Forums. if you can't say anything good about a person why say anything at all? why not just keep it to yourself? then everyone feels better see?


maybe you should email him if you miss him so much. the two of you can spend lovely days discussing all the people in the world you strongly dislike and why. If thats what makes your day, then party on. bye bye.
(thank you (bye bye))
No. 23     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 1:47 PM     
i said you are most welcome. I dont know why you reposted the same thing. oh I see it now. you just wanted to add bye bye. well in that case...once again, bye bye.
No. 24     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 2:25 PM     
kittenshere263 wrote:

i said you are most welcome. I dont know why you reposted the same thing. oh I see it now. you just wanted to add bye bye. well in that case...once again, bye bye.
kittenshere, she reposted it because she wanted to show the world how silly you are in your response, I'd have to agree with her, I would have reposted it too!
No. 25     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 2:33 PM     
insular926 wrote:

kittenshere263 wrote:

i said you are most welcome. I dont know why you reposted the same thing. oh I see it now. you just wanted to add bye bye. well in that case...once again, bye bye.
kittenshere, she reposted it because she wanted to show the world how silly you are in your response, I'd have to agree with her, I would have reposted it too!


Reposting it does nothing for her or me or you or anyone else. and if she had any decency about her, she would have simply wrote what she felt about bahama man and not said anyting about me. so what, she dont like my post. what am I suppose to do about it. I do not have to like someone just becuase she does. Im silly for my feelings? She dont control my feelings. Is she silly for diliking me for my post just as I disliked bahama man for his posts. if you dislike someone should I call you silly for your feelings? Now be logical.
No. 26     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 5:13 PM     
kittenshere263 wrote:



How one can claim to be a christian and be full of such hatred inside their soul is beyond me. That kind of behavior is not of God.

im sorry to the ones who disagree but hatred from head to toe is ALL I ever saw in bahama man. They say there is good in everyone. Im sure there is. I just never found it in him. This is just my own personal opinion of what I myself witnessed as I watched him daily degrade other humans.


So, you got a little scorched by the fire and want to strike back, do you?

Dean may have been a little overboard at times in his zeal, but he essentially preached the truth to you, and you rejected it. That is your right, but let's not hide under words like "hatred" and such. The Devil hates the truth also, just as you seemingly do.
No. 27     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 5:13 PM     
He may be just taking a break, and I'm guessing he'll be back.

He's still over on Mingle.
No. 28     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

kittenshere263 wrote:



How one can claim to be a christian and be full of such hatred inside their soul is beyond me. That kind of behavior is not of God.

im sorry to the ones who disagree but hatred from head to toe is ALL I ever saw in bahama man. They say there is good in everyone. Im sure there is. I just never found it in him. This is just my own personal opinion of what I myself witnessed as I watched him daily degrade other humans.


So, you got a little scorched by the fire and want to strike back, do you?

Dean may have been a little overboard at times in his zeal, but he essentially preached the truth to you, and you rejected it. That is your right, but let's not hide under words like "hatred" and such. The Devil hates the truth also, just as you seemingly do.


Bahama man preached his own truths. The only thing I rejected was he who rejected or went against God. But I know he couldnt help himself. He actually truely believed it was perfectly fine with God if we went around downing God's human race creation. I found it to be really sad. I dont think he could talk unless it was downing someone. did he not know any other converstation? There is nothing else to say. he simply sickened me. im sorry he had to act in such a manner that turned me completely and utterly off but he did.
No. 29     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  xylonawyn10   Gender: F   Age: 30   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 5:55 PM     
Angelfish wrote:

I enjoyed reading his posts/threads. I was wondering why I wasn't seeing anything by him lately. I liked the guy and will miss him.

:goodpost: ditto.
No. 30     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 6:21 PM     
kittenshere263 wrote:

Stormchaser wrote:

kittenshere263 wrote:



How one can claim to be a christian and be full of such hatred inside their soul is beyond me. That kind of behavior is not of God.

im sorry to the ones who disagree but hatred from head to toe is ALL I ever saw in bahama man. They say there is good in everyone. Im sure there is. I just never found it in him. This is just my own personal opinion of what I myself witnessed as I watched him daily degrade other humans.


So, you got a little scorched by the fire and want to strike back, do you?

Dean may have been a little overboard at times in his zeal, but he essentially preached the truth to you, and you rejected it. That is your right, but let's not hide under words like "hatred" and such. The Devil hates the truth also, just as you seemingly do.


Bahama man preached his own truths. The only thing I rejected was he who rejected or went against God. But I know he couldnt help himself. He actually truely believed it was perfectly fine with God if we went around downing God's human race creation. I found it to be really sad. I dont think he could talk unless it was downing someone. did he not know any other converstation? There is nothing else to say. he simply sickened me. im sorry he had to act in such a manner that turned me completely and utterly off but he did.
kittenshere, you are a drone of my little sister who is also married as you know to a Muslim, you and her say many of the same exact things, it's weird and sad at the same time.
No. 31     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 6:55 PM     
or it could mean you should listen. sounds like you have a very wise sister. anyway, does that mean your sister knew bahama man?? or you mean our beliefs on subjects in general are the same?
No. 40     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Fakey_ego   Gender: F   Age: 30   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 10:20 PM     
Regardless as to the reason why Bahama Man has gone, I saw one reoccurring theme in this thread- and itís one I agree with! That is the venom that appears on some of the threads is cause for concern. There is a difference between debate or disagreeing and slamming down someone as a whole. I myself was caught up in an exhausting, nasty mud-slinging contest that was draining. Casting doubts on someone elseís faith, presenting someone as ungodly, etc. This should not be a place for that. Itís a Christian website. I know I came here to avoid the viciousness I found on other websites. I just hope we all start to ask ourselves what role we play in the Kingdom, and what kind of witness our words are. I am quite guilty of this, but I hope to strive to be better at this. If he comes back or if he does not- I hope that each new person that crosses the electronic threshold of this site feels like they can post and find agreement or honorable disagreement without being hit in the face with a rather blunt object.
No. 41     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  PrincessConnie   Gender: F   Age: 48   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM     
Fakey_Ego73 wrote:

Regardless as to the reason why Bahama Man has gone, I saw one reoccurring theme in this thread- and itís one I agree with! That is the venom that appears on some of the threads is cause for concern. There is a difference between debate or disagreeing and slamming down someone as a whole. I myself was caught up in an exhausting, nasty mud-slinging contest that was draining. Casting doubts on someone elseís faith, presenting someone as ungodly, etc. This should not be a place for that. Itís a Christian website. I know I came here to avoid the viciousness I found on other websites. I just hope we all start to ask ourselves what role we play in the Kingdom, and what kind of witness our words are. I am quite guilty of this, but I hope to strive to be better at this. If he comes back or if he does not- I hope that each new person that crosses the electronic threshold of this site feels like they can post and find agreement or honorable disagreement without being hit in the face with a rather blunt object.


I know that you just barely posted this, but I agree so whole-heartedly with your entire post that I felt the need to underscore it. :2thumbs:

I prefer less venom and more freedom in discussion. I love the way that Randal is moderating more heavily; the forum has been so much more pleasant.

Jen, if nobody else posts, I got the last word (please hush, Kitten and Earl, lol). :tongue:



No. 42     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  joyful   Gender: F   Age: 53   on  Sep 21, 2009 at 10:57 PM     
jenley wrote:

Is this one of those 'getting the last word' things?


I think so, but she calls it 'making peace'. It seems that some people think that the more times they post, the more 'right', they are. It should show that some of us have a 'life', and responsiblities and don t have time to monitor this site every waking hour.
No. 43     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Padraic   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Sep 22, 2009 at 1:10 AM     
I'll defer on giving my own opinion of Bahama Man,but from what I've seen of your postings Kittenshere,you're no bargain yourself.
I've been known to butt heads frequently with Bahama Man and several others and while I wasn't his biggest fan I didn't blast him after he was gone.That betrays a phenomenol lack of courtesy.
No. 44     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Fakey_ego   Gender: F   Age: 30   on  Sep 22, 2009 at 2:27 AM     
PrincessConnie wrote:

Fakey_Ego73 wrote:

Regardless as to the reason why Bahama Man has gone, I saw one reoccurring theme in this thread- and itís one I agree with! That is the venom that appears on some of the threads is cause for concern. There is a difference between debate or disagreeing and slamming down someone as a whole. I myself was caught up in an exhausting, nasty mud-slinging contest that was draining. Casting doubts on someone elseís faith, presenting someone as ungodly, etc. This should not be a place for that. Itís a Christian website. I know I came here to avoid the viciousness I found on other websites. I just hope we all start to ask ourselves what role we play in the Kingdom, and what kind of witness our words are. I am quite guilty of this, but I hope to strive to be better at this. If he comes back or if he does not- I hope that each new person that crosses the electronic threshold of this site feels like they can post and find agreement or honorable disagreement without being hit in the face with a rather blunt object.


I know that you just barely posted this, but I agree so whole-heartedly with your entire post that I felt the need to underscore it. :2thumbs:

I prefer less venom and more freedom in discussion. I love the way that Randal is moderating more heavily; the forum has been so much more pleasant.

Jen, if nobody else posts, I got the last word (please hush, Kitten and Earl, lol). :tongue:






PC, I am glad that someone agreesÖI really hope that our confident expectation spreads like dye in the warm water, instead settling down to the base of the bowl. I know how I felt when the admin stepped in on the slander toward myself and others. I do not wish to be part of that sort of interaction again, but enjoy the banter that ensues when people have differing, passionate opinions. Again, I thank you.

Sue

No. 45     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 22, 2009 at 6:37 AM     
Padraic wrote:

I'll defer on giving my own opinion of Bahama Man,but from what I've seen of your postings Kittenshere,you're no bargain yourself.
I've been known to butt heads frequently with Bahama Man and several others and while I wasn't his biggest fan I didn't blast him after he was gone.That betrays a phenomenol lack of courtesy.


You should have also deferred givng your opinion about me. Look at what you just said about me even though I said nothing at all to or about you. Is that you wnating to make trouble? Sure, Of course it is. look around you. Its the same thing the others are doing. It makes no sense to me if people wanted peace. It shows they dont wnat peace. they want the war to continue. your post is a prime example..although most posters here are much meaner you still had to make your comment trying to anger me and get things started again. thats called a trouble maker. Saying im no bargain myslf is an opinion you should have kept to yoruself. and its exacly what I have been saying. the bad try to make the good look bad. Your post when I have said nothing to you at all is the kind of posts deveray needs to see. funny how the ones downing me are the one who need the correcting. you're out of line padraic just like the others were.

As far as bahama man, I had the right to my opinion just as the others had a right to theirs.
No. 46     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Painter734   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Sep 22, 2009 at 7:06 AM     
kittenshere263 wrote:

Padraic wrote:

I'll defer on giving my own opinion of Bahama Man,but from what I've seen of your postings Kittenshere,you're no bargain yourself.
I've been known to butt heads frequently with Bahama Man and several others and while I wasn't his biggest fan I didn't blast him after he was gone.That betrays a phenomenol lack of courtesy.


You should have also deferred givng your opinion about me. Look at what you just said about me even though I said nothing at all to or about you. Is that you wnating to make trouble? Sure, Of course it is. look around you. Its the same thing the others are doing. It makes no sense to me if people wanted peace. It shows they dont wnat peace. they want the war to continue. you post is a prime example..although most posters here are much meaner you still had to make your comment trying to anger me and get things started again. thats called a trouble maker. Saying im no bargain myslf is an opinion you should have kept to yoruself. and its exacly what I have been saying. the bad try to make the good look bad. You post when I have said nothing to you at all is the kind of posts deveray needs to see. funny how the ones downing me are the one who need the correcting.

Kittenshere >
Clearly some here can't resist hitting others , in what ever way they can!!!! As the above did to you ,.... even tho it was subtle!
You should see what happened to me when I started to post here .... about 700 views and 80+ comments!!!!
I don't come here much now ... made one good friend tho!!!
No. 47     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 22, 2009 at 7:19 AM     
Hi painter. didnt expect to see you here. I agree with your post. by the way, Keep up the good work on your paintings. They are beautiful. Ya Know back when I was much younger I actually wanted to be a painter just like you. But I never took lessons. Looking at your paintings make me wish I had. You have an amazing talent. by the way, thks for the nice post. You have a nice day and be safe
No. 50     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Sep 22, 2009 at 4:32 PM     
So this now jumps from posting 31 to 40? wow, someone did some real chopping on this one! LOL :crybaby: :rofl:
No. 51     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 22, 2009 at 4:36 PM     
this bothers you why?
No. 52     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Padraic   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Sep 22, 2009 at 11:19 PM     
kittenshere,I made a statement or two based on a couple of observations of your comments on this board,and more specifically on this thread,I believe they were valid based on your comments here.If you don't like that,so sorry.
I made it a point to say that I didn't get along with Bahama Man for reasons known to me and several other people,yet,I didn't slam him after he left,I usually did it to his face.
Just like I confronted you.
No. 58     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 25, 2009 at 9:09 AM     
padriac, you need to realize, I dont have to like someone becuase you do. I couldnt confront him to his face becuase he isnt here. however the thread was about him. I have confronted him to his face though wehn he was here and anyone who payed the slightest bit of attention would know that. Anyway, freedom of speech does not only apply to you. I could have been nicer concerning him but I would have been lying and I am not a liar.
No. 60     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Padraic   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Sep 25, 2009 at 4:39 PM     
kittenshere263 wrote:

padriac, you need to realize, I dont have to like someone becuase you do. I couldnt confront him to his face becuase he isnt here. however the thread was about him. I have confronted him to his face though wehn he was here and anyone who payed the slightest bit of attention would know that. Anyway, freedom of speech does not only apply to you. I could have been nicer concerning him but I would have been lying and I am not a liar.



I had my issues with him too,ok.
You make a big thing of my not being attentive to your personal grievances with him,I see and saw those clear as day,so don't play that card anymore.
Perhaps,something you're not aware of or perhaps attentive to,is that your ongoing attacks on people who disagree with you or your views is reminiscent of what Ephesians 4:29 calls corrupting talk(ESV)and what 4:31 amplifies as 'bitterness','wrath','clamour','anger' and 'slander' along with all malice,with the corrective being 'put away from you',and in the succeeding verse 32 'Be kind to one another,tenderhearted,forgiving one another as God in Christ has forgiven you'. Either you can continue with your parade of diatribes or be gracious,forgive and go on or go on clamoring(like an angry man shouting,forcing every one to listen to your 'grievances' and opinions)or sniping(my word for ambushing in type or slandering anyone who crosses you or your views).
Your choice
No. 61     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 25, 2009 at 4:49 PM     
padraic said, your ongoing attacks on people who disagree with you

thats odd. Did I attack someone for their post about bm? NO. I disagreed with their post but I never said a word to them about it becuase it wasnt my place to tell them what they should feel, just like it isnt yours, joyfuls, or anyone else's to tell me how I should feel about bm or anyhting else. In fact, I didnt attack you, you attacked me. I didnt attack joyful, she attacked me. I didnt attack anyone, they attacked me. so you should really re think what you said because your not telling the truth. Why did you and ohters do it? I guess you all didnt like my opinion. so I would really appreciate it if you would tell it like it really was.
No. 62     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Padraic   Gender: M   Age: 51   on  Sep 25, 2009 at 5:06 PM     
how about the snide comments to at least three people who challenged you,not counting me?
Sweet Lady for one.
Storm Chaser for Another.
And Insular for a third.
Good thing for you that I'm not a moderator.
No. 63     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 25, 2009 at 5:58 PM     
what made them attack/challenge me in the first place? I didnt ask their opinion on my opinion. they came to me to attack, I didnt go to them.. which makes them fully 100 percent in the wrong. if all would have minded their own posts none of this would have started in the first place. Now you need to snap back into reality. As to your moderator comment, thats another snide remark that you didnt need to make nor does it have any bearing on this discussion.
No. 64     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  PrincessConnie   Gender: F   Age: 48   on  Sep 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM     
Paddy, Kitten is right.

She was singled out and harassed by this person (and a few others) over and over again. Very few called out the other long-term members for their nasty behavior, but many called Kitten out on hers. She DID complain to their faces at the time. Still, it did not end.

Is that just?

You haven't been around for a long while (and have been missed, by the way :hug: ); you've probably missed the worst of this harrassment. What you are mainly seeing is a very ruffled and harried Kitten being defensive and biting people, who she believes is attacking her. Often attacking the wrong ones. But...no wonder she doesn't trust us.

Few of us bothered to call the dogs off of her, when she needed assistance the most. And the worst offender, who did some very shady and shameful things, was found out by the MC Clique and not called on the carpet for his behavior, while Kitten was publicly torn to shreds for hundreds of posts by the MC Clique. That left a bad taste in the mouth of many, Kitten's not being the least.

And Kitten, Joy is right. Paddy is one of the good guys; he would have probably been one of the defenders telling your tormentors to shut up. He is not a fan of bullies either.

You have come here, turning upside down our fundamental beliefs about God. You do not believe our sacred Bible...what most of us believe is the living, breathing, words of the only God. You argue with us, when we try to share its truth with you. When people lose patience with your posts and gang up on you, you dig in your heels and attack right back.

I don't know if you came here with an agenda to insult our God, or whether you truly have an open mind toward Him but find some of His people rather mean and nasty. But even though I am not blind to those who have bullied you, I am also not blind to the fact that your behavior stirs up a great deal of animosity. I see both viewpoints of this "war", but I have no power to make ya'll get along. Randal just doesn't have the time to follow you around and delete all of the argumentative posts "to" and "from" you.



***

Maybe people with a liberal viewpoint should not be able to post on MC and offend the conservatives among us. Maybe it is right of us to be offended at their opinions, which don't mirror ours, and so we are obligated to gang up and attack them. Maybe we should make them as miserable as possible, so that they have no choice but to leave of their own accord. And that would allow us to remain self-righteous because we didn't technically make them leave, after all.

Apparently, there is no warning in the rules here that say that if one is a liberal or still on the fence about Christianity, one should be willing to accept a gang of bullies to attack, and no one to come to your defense. I think there SHOULD be...a warning, that is.

If we - as a whole - are not able/willing to allow everyone to have an honest voice, then it seems more humane to me to just ban the "undesirables" from posting on MC altogether. And this may be an option that we should explore.

But for the homepage to invite "all" Christians to come here for fellowship and then gang up on the ones, whose politics (or beliefs) don't reflect the majority here...well that is a very poor reflection on us all. All corrections are to be offered in love, and if they were, would not be received with hostility. But it seems to me that less than a handful of us here are mature enough to effectively correct in love or to receive it with grace.

***


Paddy, if you care to see where some of this just hostility got flamed, check out these threads...as just a tip of the iceberg.

"An Affair of the Heart" moved to Theo

"Christianity and Islam" in General



No. 65     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  kittenshere263   Gender: F   Age: 42   on  Sep 25, 2009 at 7:52 PM     
People here gave me the title "liberal". I have never gave myself any title. im just me. my name is Roxanne. My name is my title. People are free to assume anything they want. I prefer they dont express it in pubic though for the simple reason many of the people here are like damp sponges ready to soak up all the things they hear whether true or not. But I dont accept any title. All my beliefs come directly out of the very same bible you all read. No one needs to change their beliefs or get mad about my mine. thats rather childish if you ask me. forums are suppose to be for discussions. we are suppose to be adults. Im attacked and naturally I defend myself. Its the same anyone else would do that was attacked.

is it right for people here to attack me simply becuase they dont like my beliefs??? well....NO...but its what they do. should I be an outcast unless I take on their beliefs? No. making someone an outcast wouldn't be a chrsitain like thing to do nor would it make any sense.

Deveray tries to keep the peace among posters but you all make his job very hard. I say you all becuase you all are the first to send an attack. If you didnt do that there would be no return defense attack and therefore no need for the deletion of our postings. It takes two or more people to keep an argument going. so wehn something is blamed on me it should also be blamed on the other/others equally especially since they started it to begin with.

Connie, your bringing up old websites thinking it will bother me shows whats in your heart and and what you're made of and its not of God. however, your behavior is between you and him. You may not have to asnwer to administration but believe it or not, you are gonna answer to God for your behavior both now and in the past. So will I and so will everyone. your coming here to begin with, jumping into a conversation between me and paddy as you call him, posting bad threads up, saying I should be banned ect, doesnt exactly make you shine. You badly tarnished your own character.
No. 66     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Sep 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM     
kittenshere263 wrote:


Connie, your bringing up old websites thinking it will bother me shows whats in your heart and and what you're made of and its not of God. however, your behavior is between you and him. You may not have to asnwer to administration but believe it or not, you are gonna answer to God for your behavior both now and in the past. So will I and so will everyone. your coming here to begin with, jumping into a conversation between me and paddy as you call him, posting bad threads up, saying I should be banned ect, doesnt exactly make you shine. You badly tarnished your own character.
So Princess Connie, how does it feel to be bitten in the Butt? LOL
No. 67     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Dare2BBold   Gender: F   Age: 49   on  Sep 26, 2009 at 12:08 PM     
insular926 wrote:

kittenshere263 wrote:


Connie, your bringing up old websites thinking it will bother me shows whats in your heart and and what you're made of and its not of God. however, your behavior is between you and him. You may not have to asnwer to administration but believe it or not, you are gonna answer to God for your behavior both now and in the past. So will I and so will everyone. your coming here to begin with, jumping into a conversation between me and paddy as you call him, posting bad threads up, saying I should be banned ect, doesnt exactly make you shine. You badly tarnished your own character.
So Princess Connie, how does it feel to be bitten in the Butt? LOL


Geez, Kitten, didn't you read PC's entire post? I fail to see how you could be so offended by it. May I suggest you re-read it...mull it over a bit & find you just might not be so offended.

As far as inferring that PC should've stayed out of a "conversation" between you & Paddy well, my dear, any forum comments in the threads is up for grabs as far as I'm aware. If you want a conversation to be private I suggest you take it to a private email exchange.
:popcorn:
No. 68     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  SuzyQ   Gender: F   Age: 56   on  Sep 26, 2009 at 12:20 PM     
Dare2BBold wrote:

insular926 wrote:

kittenshere263 wrote:


Connie, your bringing up old websites thinking it will bother me shows whats in your heart and and what you're made of and its not of God. however, your behavior is between you and him. You may not have to asnwer to administration but believe it or not, you are gonna answer to God for your behavior both now and in the past. So will I and so will everyone. your coming here to begin with, jumping into a conversation between me and paddy as you call him, posting bad threads up, saying I should be banned ect, doesnt exactly make you shine. You badly tarnished your own character.
So Princess Connie, how does it feel to be bitten in the Butt? LOL


Geez, Kitten, didn't you read PC's entire post? I fail to see how you could be so offended by it. May I suggest you re-read it...mull it over a bit & find you just might not be so offended.

As far as inferring that PC should've stayed out of a "conversation" between you & Paddy well, my dear, any forum comments in the threads is up for grabs as far as I'm aware. If you want a conversation to be private I suggest you take it to a private email exchange.
:popcorn:



I am with Kitten here.
There was no need for Connie or (whatever her
name is) to intercept anything...there was no need for a "referee".

And, Kitten is perceiving just the way "she" sees it, and why would you
want to change Kittens mind, I cannot figure that one out.

I know your intentions are good here Dare2B, but this goes back a little
further in these threads.

Another thing I cannot figure as Kitten mentioned...why bring up those
threads...sounds to me like a vendetta with the person(s).


No. 69     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Sep 27, 2009 at 6:07 PM     
Padraic wrote:

how about the snide comments to at least three people who challenged you,not counting me?
Sweet Lady for one.
Storm Chaser for Another.
And Insular for a third.
Good thing for you that I'm not a moderator.


For the record, Pad, I do not consider her comments (at least this particular set) as snide to me. I criticized her, and she defended herself. Nothing really wrong with that, other than she is still, in my opinion, hiding behind unkind words towards Hunter. She disagrees. That is her right. She is not open to the Gospel, and she is not open to counsel. I have advised previously, and still do so, that she be ignored until she learns how to behave (and disagree) in polite company. Nobody really seems to to want to do that, including Hunter while he was here, and so the acrimony continues.
No. 70     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  sweet_lady   Gender: F   Age: 43   on  Sep 27, 2009 at 7:53 PM     
Stormchaser wrote:

Padraic wrote:

how about the snide comments to at least three people who challenged you,not counting me?
Sweet Lady for one.
Storm Chaser for Another.
And Insular for a third.
Good thing for you that I'm not a moderator.


For the record, Pad, I do not consider her comments (at least this particular set) as snide to me. I criticized her, and she defended herself. Nothing really wrong with that, other than she is still, in my opinion, hiding behind unkind words towards Hunter. She disagrees. That is her right. She is not open to the Gospel, and she is not open to counsel. I have advised previously, and still do so, that she be ignored until she learns how to behave (and disagree) in polite company. Nobody really seems to to want to do that, including Hunter while he was here, and so the acrimony continues.
( I find it best just to ignore some people & pray for them )
No. 71     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  Sep 27, 2009 at 8:49 PM     
Probably very good advice for a number of cases.
No. 72     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Aug 21, 2017 at 1:11 PM     
kittenshere263 wrote:

People here gave me the title "liberal". I have never gave myself any title. im just me. my name is Roxanne. My name is my title. People are free to assume anything they want. I prefer they dont express it in pubic though for the simple reason many of the people here are like damp sponges ready to soak up all the things they hear whether true or not. But I dont accept any title. All my beliefs come directly out of the very same bible you all read. No one needs to change their beliefs or get mad about my mine. thats rather childish if you ask me. forums are suppose to be for discussions. we are suppose to be adults. Im attacked and naturally I defend myself. Its the same anyone else would do that was attacked.

is it right for people here to attack me simply becuase they dont like my beliefs??? well....NO...but its what they do. should I be an outcast unless I take on their beliefs? No. making someone an outcast wouldn't be a chrsitain like thing to do nor would it make any sense.

Deveray tries to keep the peace among posters but you all make his job very hard. I say you all becuase you all are the first to send an attack. If you didnt do that there would be no return defense attack and therefore no need for the deletion of our postings. It takes two or more people to keep an argument going. so wehn something is blamed on me it should also be blamed on the other/others equally especially since they started it to begin with.

Connie, your bringing up old websites thinking it will bother me shows whats in your heart and and what you're made of and its not of God. however, your behavior is between you and him. You may not have to asnwer to administration but believe it or not, you are gonna answer to God for your behavior both now and in the past. So will I and so will everyone. your coming here to begin with, jumping into a conversation between me and paddy as you call him, posting bad threads up, saying I should be banned ect, doesnt exactly make you shine. You badly tarnished your own character.
.
No. 73     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 21, 2017 at 1:21 PM     
oh lol i thought bahama man was dead. I thought this was a new thread. And I had some thoughts running across my mind.
No. 74     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 21, 2017 at 2:01 PM     
SweetLady wrote: hardly ever do I ever reply on forums because ,,,,,,,,,, but I also miss BAHAMA_MAN .I always enjoyed his posts/threads



Bullfighter is Bahama Man and we have some more votes for the best poster here! lol!

No. 75     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Aug 21, 2017 at 2:05 PM     
and Kittenshere is Texascowgirl.
No. 76     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 22, 2017 at 9:45 AM     
Everyone knows im kittenshere. In case you missed it i told everyone long long ago and I also told them why i at first denied it, it was with a very, very good reason too. Maybe you missed it but I even spoke aobut how randal was gonna let me keep my old name but ended up not. Maybe you fell asleep on the site while i was talking.
No. 77     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 22, 2017 at 9:48 AM     
But not everyone knew whom Banana Man was.
No. 78     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 22, 2017 at 9:53 AM     
if bullfighter is bahama man from yrs back thats fine but as bahama man he hated women if not than maybe i have him confused with someone else. But i know we did not get along. Back in those days i didnt get along with many. The man I hated that was on this site has his own site now days one in which im a member of before I found out it was his site. I dont go there anymore but not for that reason its becuase his site was dead. But what does this have to do with anything. I dont understand the reason Insular brought up this old thread. Is he trying to start fights in here? I dont know where his mind is. But no matter where his mind is, the past is the past, leave it there. Move forward not backwards. People change over time.

As far as name change, some do it to deceive others, some do it becasue they have to and some do it just to be doing it. None of that matters. We treat people the way people treat us no matter what name they come under. People change over yrs, some for the better and some for the worst.
No. 79     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 22, 2017 at 12:40 PM     
You have Bullfighter confused with someone else. I know personally, but apparently with all the kind thoughts written about BF in this very thread (and others here)... by the women here (and men), he's well respected.

Survivor -- you didn't know? Really? I tend to be able to tell from posting/writing style when prior members come back if they do not tell people (not always though), but I've not seen Bullfighter ever keep who he was a secret in forums. It was stated in forums who he was -- when Bahamaman.

mod spelling/clarity
No. 80     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 22, 2017 at 12:47 PM     
You have Bullfighter confused with someone else.

maybe so. Im not here to argue casandie. All I remember is we did not get along at all in those passed yrs. Could I have him confused yes its been yrs and there were alot of talking members here whom I did not get along with back then unlike today.

But the past is behind me and im moving forward. MY hope is that insular can do the same and quit dwelling in the past.
No. 81     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 22, 2017 at 1:15 PM     
LOL...I think you are talking about 'humbled man' (not many of the women on MC got along with him). -- <3



No. 82     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  texascowgirl283   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 22, 2017 at 1:16 PM     
no that wasn't the name.
No. 83     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 22, 2017 at 1:33 PM     
CAsandie wrote:

Survivor -- you didn't know? Really? I tend to be able to tell from posting/writing style when prior members come back if they do not tell people (not always though), but I've not seen Bullfighter ever keep who he was a secret in forums. It was stated in forums who he was -- when Bahamaman.


I knew who Bahama Man was.

But I do not know whom Banana Man is.
No. 84     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 22, 2017 at 1:41 PM     

Oh I see says the blind woman -- at least I think I see --

No. 85     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Aug 22, 2017 at 4:53 PM     
some of y'all might remember Bahama Mama;
a real Tall thin Charismatic gal that used to worship/
dance before the Lord; been in a movie or two?
No. 86     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  CAsandie   Gender: F   Age: 103   on  Aug 23, 2017 at 11:05 AM     
I googled and saw there are movies by the name Bahama Mama, but haven't seen any of the movies. I do recall Bahama Mama bumper stickers.

No. 87     Reply: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 57   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 8:55 PM     
Bahama Man is a cool name.
No. 88     Reply: Re: Re: Bahama Man, he's gone?   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 5, 2017 at 12:49 AM     
joyful wrote:

Too bad. About the worst thing i ever saw him do was to lay out the plan of salvation real simple to someone who didn t want to accept it but just wanted to argue. :-(


'M:yeahthat: