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No. 0     Original Topic:  What a Fox!   
By:  Bahama_man9   Gender: M   Age: 47   on  Apr 18, 2009 at 9:16 AM   Viewed 32444 times     
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No. 1     Reply: Re: What a Fox!   
By:  KarenTX   Gender: F   Age: 46   on  Apr 18, 2009 at 10:13 AM     
Yes, yes he is!

What a sweet story! :wub:
No. 2     Reply: Re: What a Fox!   
By:  ReverendFred   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Apr 19, 2009 at 8:28 AM     
The problem with videos like this is they are irresponsible

they will make some think you can make pets of foxes
and foxes like most wild animals do not make good pets
they are dangerous and can become vicious

and they stink

This is from personal experience
my first wife insisted I buy her a fox when we lived in ohio
and so we got one from a fox farm where foxes are raised for their pelts

we were never able to tame the critter and its waste products really stunk

to make a long story short the animal escaped and as we were living in the country it took up residence in the wild where I assume it did what other wild foxes did, hunt mice, find a mate and raised baby foxes

but it is definitely not a good idea to keep wild animals as pets

remember the woman who had the chimp that she fed steak and wine to
which went wild one day and destroyed her friends life
and had to be put down by the police?

Fred
No. 3     Reply: Re: What a Fox!   
By:  Darrell   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Apr 19, 2009 at 9:10 AM     
Did I not hear a Texas accent in there somewhere?
No. 4     Reply: Re: Re: What a Fox!   
By:  KarenTX   Gender: F   Age: 46   on  Apr 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM     
Darrell wrote:

Did I not hear a Texas accent in there somewhere?


Not that there's anything wrong with that. :wavey:
No. 5     Reply: Re: What a Fox!   
By:  BeachBrat   Gender: F   Age: 56   on  Apr 19, 2009 at 10:43 AM     
Awwwwww! I like Cropper. I would take my chances. Animals may turn on ya, but guess what? People do, too. Did u see the woman who lives with lions here? Hope this works. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=55784858
No. 6     Reply: Re: Re: Re: What a Fox!   
By:  Darrell   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Apr 19, 2009 at 11:12 AM     
KarenTX wrote:

Darrell wrote:

Did I not hear a Texas accent in there somewhere?


Not that there's anything wrong with that. :wavey:



It is fine with me. :wavey:
No. 7     Reply: Re: What a Fox!   
By:  ReverendFred   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Apr 19, 2009 at 3:08 PM     
Children Killed and Mauled by Big Cats

or 47 Reasons To Ban Big Cats as Pets



Exotic pet owners say that if they want to be mauled and killed by their pets it is no oneís business but their own. These children who have lost life and limb or have been physically and emotionally scarred could not make that decision for themselves and yet every year since 1990 have suffered the consequences.

Children Killed: 4 Children Mauled: 43
of those: Children Killed by Parentís cat: 0 Children Killed by Step Parentís cat: 1
Children Mauled by Parentís cat: 9


Some of the other killings and maulings were by relatives who owned the cats, such as aunts, grandmothers, etc.
More than 80% of the children killed and mauled were not killed or mauled at home by their parentís cats.




December 7, 2006 Coral Gables, FL: Goya Foods executive Francisco Unanue hired Corinne Oltz of Wild Animal World to bring a 62-pound cougar to entertain his 7 year old and their guests. The party ended badly when the cougar mauled a 4-year-old guest. An investigator for the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission told the Herald that the leopard's bite "was a fraction of an inch from going to the brain stem. That would have killed the kid instantly." The Kendall-based Wild Animal World -- who has been cited in two similar past attacks -- faces a misdemeanor charge of allowing injury to the public. The girl suffered severe lacerations to her eyelid, left cheek and ear. Doctors sewed back part of her severed ear. Georgia, the cougar, was euthanized last week as part of a rabies test. In 1999, Oltz was cited in a similar attack, also in Coral Gables. In 2001, a Wild Animal World leopard attacked a child at a company picnic in Broward County. "That one was a fraction of an inch from going to the brain stem." remembered FFW Lt. Pat Reynolds, who is investigating the Coral Gables attack.


July 18, 2006 Saratoga County Fair, NY: A white tiger owned by the the Ashville Game Farm scratched 4-year-old Riley Willard of Milton at the fairgrounds. The boy suffered a gash about an inch long and needed 14 stitches to close the wound. He was sitting on a bench positioned in front of Calcutta the 2-year-old white tiger on display as part of the backdrop for pictures of kids holding exotic animals. The game farm's owner, Jeffrey W. Ash, of Lick Springs Road, was charged with a misdemeanor and was cited for a violation after the incident, according to the DEC. The Environmental Conservation Police charged Ash with failing to exercise due care in safeguarding the public from attack by a wild animal that caused bodily harm. The charge carries a punishment of up to one year in jail and a $500 fine. Ash was also ticketed for violating a condition of a DEC permit that states he must maintain the tiger in a cage that is not in contact with humans. The violation is punishable by up to 15 days in jail and a fine of $250. Ash was in court Jan. 2007 to answer a felony forgery charge in connection with providing a forged insurance certificate to the Saratoga County Fair last summer, officials said.


January 6, 2006 Center Hill, FL: Girl mauled when cougar escapes at Robert Baudy's Savage Kingdom. A teenage volunteer was mauled by a mountain lion when he escaped after she left the door open. It is alleged that alcohol and drug abuse is to blame for the continued decline of Savage Kingdom and that the facility's owner tried to keep the press and authorities from knowing about the incident by treating the mauled young woman with expired antibiotics. A tree worker managed to get ropes around the escaped cat's throat and he was strangled to death. The girl ended up in the hospital and Florida's Wildlife Conservation Commission investigated the matter.


October 23, 2005 Knox County, OH: Siberian Tiger Bites Boy at road side zoo. A 10-year-old Columbus-area boy got too close to a Siberian tiger that bit him Knox County Sheriff David Barber said. Ethan Newman of 1011 Colony Way in Perry Township was bitten on the leg in a fenced compound at the Siberian Tiger Foundation off Deal Road, Barber said. The park is 2 miles southeast of Gambier. The foundation is owned by David and Diana Cziraky who charge customers for a "close encounter" in which they enter a compound with Siberian tigers chained to posts, the sheriff said. The boy and his father, Robert, were in the compound with a trainer for a close encounter when the incident occurred.



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August 18, 2005 Mound Valley, KS: (AP) - A Siberian tiger attacked and killed a teenage girl who was posing for photos at a family-run animal facility called Lost Creek Animal Sanctuary. Update: 11/18/06 Lost Creek Operators Doug and Keith Billingsly cannot engage in any activity for which a license under the Animal Welfare Act is required, until 2011 according to the ruling from the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service. That includes, breeding and selling, exhibiting or any public use of the big cats. In its 10-page decision issued Nov. 3, the Agriculture Department cited several violations of the Animal Welfare Act at Lost Creek, including allowing the public to have direct contact and pose for photographs with adult tigers. It also did not establish and maintain a program of adequate veterinary care to prevent and control injuries, the ruling stated. The ruling says there were not adequate methods of tranquilization available at the facility. Doug Billingsly's nephew and authorities had to shoot and kill Shakka after the animal attacked Hilderbrand. The ruling also alleges that the Billingslys did not allow officials with the Agriculture Department's animal inspection service to inspect the operation on four separate occasions from September 2004 to January 2005, months before the Siberian tiger attacked and killed Hilderbrand. Under the terms of the probation, the Billingslys can be fined $12,600 each if they violate the Animal Welfare Act again. They also were ordered to get rid of all animals subject to the act.


August 15, 2005 Clackamas, OR: Sheriff's deputies shot and killed a pet lynx after it pounced on a six-year-old girl and began clawing her head. Deputies said the owner reported the pet missing Friday to a Clackamas veterinary clinic, which contacted the sheriff's office. Attempts to trap the animal had failed.


June 25, 2005 Little Falls, MN: AP- A lion and tiger owned by auto mechanic Chuck Mock bolted from their cage and pounced on a 10-year-old boy leaving Russell LaLa of Royalton, MN., fighting for his life at Hennepin County Medical Center. The child is now a quadriplegic and on a respirator due to the severe injuries to his spinal cord and brain.


April 12, 2005 Thackery, IL: A 4-year-old McLeansboro girl is recuperating from injuries sustained Saturday evening when she was bitten by an adult cougar. The animal's owner, Terry Biggerstaff, 58, shot and killed the animal. Holly Higgins was taken to Hamilton Memorial Hospital where she was treated for a broken arm and lacerations to her hand and arm. Her parents said it took numerous stitches to close the wounds. An emergency room physician asked Holly if she was allergic to anything and she replied, "nothing but big cats".


November 20, 2004 St. Augustine, FL: (AP) A 14 year old boy was mauled by a 450 lb tiger that was being walked on a leash at the St. Johns County Fair by the cat's owner, Curt LoGiudice, owner of the Catty Shack Ranch at Jacksonville. The boy and some friends were watching the tiger being moved to the truck when the tiger went for the boy, hooking the boy's thigh and pulling the boy under him. That's when the deputies shot the tiger with the Tasers. The handler tried to get between the tiger and the boy, and after the tiger released the boy, it then bit the handler around his neck and head, Suchy said. At one time, the handler's head was in the tiger's mouth, Suchy said. LoGiudice has been questioned four times for attacks: One of his cougars bit a 19-month-old in 1999, while an elderly woman was bitten on the arm by a tiger cub in 2000, a trainer suffered 23 puncture wounds from a cougar and a woman sued LoGiudice after the same cougar attacked her, but Florida Game and Fish officials say that these attacks will not cause Curt LoGiudice of Catty Shack Ranch to lose his license to exhibit the cats.


Mar. 17, 2004 Massena, NY: (AP) A 4-year-old was hospitalized after her grandmother's caged cougar mauled her at the woman's home in northern New York. The girl told her mother the 160-pound male cat reached through the cage and grabbed her. Aubrey Swart was treated Saturday evening at Massena Memorial Hospital for cuts, bruises to the head and an eye injury, and transferred to Fletcher Allen Health Care in Burlngton , Vt.


January 25, 2004 Surry County, IN: LOWGAP A 14-year-old Surry County girl was mauled by a tiger kept in a cage behind the family's trailer and seriously injured less than two months after a tiger killed a 10-year-old boy at his uncle's home 40 miles away in Wilkes County.


December 14, 2003 Millers Creek, NC: Ruth Bynum's 400-pound Bengal tiger fatally mauled her 10-year-old nephew after pulling him under a fence and into his cage, authorities said. Cat was kept behind the family's home in a cage that allowed the family dog to run in and out of the cage. The boy, Clayton James Eller, was shoveling snow Sunday afternoon near the tiger's cage, an enclosure made of chain link ``This little boy got too close, and it pulled him under the fence,'' Coroner Howard Laney said. The boy's uncle, James Marshall Eller, heard Clayton scream and saw the tiger dragging the boy into its cage. Sheriff Dane Mastin said Eller tried in vain to get the tiger off the boy, then ran and got his gun and shot the tiger to death. But it was too late to save the boy. The boy's mother, Angela Eller, had left the boy in the care of her sister Ruth Bynum, the tiger's owner, while she went to work, Mastin said. James Eller is the brother of the two women.


January 24, 2003 Albert Lea, MN: A malnourished tiger cub was seized from a home in a residential neighborhood after school officials learned that scratches and bite marks on a fifth-grade boy were caused by his father's "pet" tiger.


September 20, 2002 Scotts Valley, CA: A declawed 150-pound tiger, who was being walked on a leash by Zoo to You at a school assembly with 150 children at the Baymonte Christian School, suddenly lunged at a 6-year-old boy and grabbed the child by the head with her jaws. The boy was wrestled away from the tiger by the principal and airlifted to a medical center where he received 55 stitches for two cuts to his scalp. A psychologist gave counseling to the terrified children who witnessed the attack.


May 26, 2002 Hennepin, IL: A 7-year-old girl was bitten by a tiger at a private menagerie as she attempted to pet the animal. The girl required 110 stitches and three months of therapy.

and dont forget Roy horn of Siegfield and Roy who worked with big cats
in their act
and was attacked and killed by a white tiger they had raised from cubhood


Fred
No. 8     Reply: Re: What a Fox!   
By:  Bahama_man9   Gender: M   Age: 47   on  Apr 19, 2009 at 3:31 PM     
May 26, 2002 Hennepin, IL: A 7-year-old girl was bitten by a tiger at a private menagerie as she attempted to pet the animal. The girl required 110 stitches and three months of therapy


That incident occurred just down the road about 1/4 mile from my wooded lots. In fact it is on the same street as mine.

Many times I could hear them "roaring". He had Mountain Lions too.

The Mother had brought the Child into the cage during feeding time and the Tiger attacked the Daughter.

The girls' Father was a Truck Driver. He used to work as a Zookeeper in TX before moving to IL. He had raised the Tigers from kittens.

The Judge after the mauling had charged the Mother with Child Endangerment and ordered her to remove the Tiger from the State of IL. They did have the appropriate Federal permits though.

While her and her Son were on their way to Texas where they were taking the Tigers they stopped in Bloomington, IL at a rest area to give them some food and water.

The Tiger escaped from the Trailer and went off running through the neighborhoods.

The Police found it cornered in someone's backyard and shot and killed it.

A few years later the Husband was inside the cage feeding his other Tigers.

A friend of his was present standing outside the cage.

The Tiger mauled the owner and even though he was carrying pepper spray he had no time to use it.

As the guy was being mauled by the Tiger the friend was helpless to stop it. He could only call 911.

The Sheriff showed up and shot and killed the Tiger.

He died of his wounds on the scene.

I have talked to both the guy who was mauled and killed and the Deceased Son's Father in front of my lot before. The Father moved into his dead Son's house. He removed all the fenced cages and sold all the animals.

I used to keep a shotgun in my pole barn and shed out there just in case it got loose...

To tell you the truth I am glad all those animals are now gone. I feel much safer when Camping or working on my wooded lots now. Now it's just me and the Coyotes, Foxes, Deer, Raccoons, Pheasants, Wild Turkeys, Hawks, :BlahBlah:
No. 9     Reply: Re: What a Fox!   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 2, 2017 at 8:36 AM     
Being Winter is soon coming, and I live in the Fox Valley, and there are Bronze Foxes on the Bridges in town near work, I thought it appropriate to order a Silver Fox Fur Hat - Ushanka - Feng Lei whatever you want to call it.

The one I ordered is black (dyed) but made out of REAL Silver Fox Fur. Leather back.

At one time Native Americans considered one pelt of Silver Fox fur was worth 40 Beaver Skins! :icon_eek:

If this thing doesn't keep my noggin warm nothing will!

Here it is...





It comes in 2 other colors also, Brown and Silver...


https://silvertechsales.com/cart/clothing/hats-caps/fur-hats.html/winter-mens-real-silver-fox-fur-cap-with-leather-black.html
No. 10     Reply: Re: What a Fox!   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 2, 2017 at 8:39 AM     
Here is an informative article about Silver Foxes and the history behind them.

Silver Fox Fur is much softer and longer than red fox fur.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_fox_(animal)