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No. 0     Original Topic:  Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bahama_man9   Gender: M   Age: 46   on  Aug 24, 2008 at 5:32 PM   Viewed 38585 times     
Hundreds of Solar projects you can build yourself!

http://www.builditsolar.com/
No. 1     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bahama_man9   Gender: M   Age: 46   on  Aug 24, 2008 at 5:35 PM     
Here is their page for actual projects:

More than 500 renewable energy and conservation projects you can build.

http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Projects.htm
No. 2     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Stormchaser   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 24, 2008 at 7:51 PM     
Hunter, did you see my home-made solar recharging system for my teardrop camper when we were at S. Dakota? No, I didn't make the solar panel itself, but we attached it to an old plasma-tv holder and added the wiring to power my teardrop. Works pretty well, esp. when there is no electricity available where I am camping.
No. 3     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  randee   Gender: M   Age: 35   on  Aug 24, 2008 at 9:04 PM     
I made a solar powered cell phone and ipod charger out of solar cells from outdoor lights.

I saw sometime back, someone was developing solar cell fabric. Anyone hear of what happened to that idea?
No. 4     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  listenandhear   Gender: F   Age: 51   on  Aug 24, 2008 at 10:03 PM     
looks fun;
No. 5     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 48   on  Aug 24, 2008 at 11:03 PM     
I really liked the quietrevolution Wind Turbines, I can see putting a couple of these on a single wide mobile home, one on each end with solar running across the entire roof in between.

The question I have is this, do I have to get batteries to run with these items or can I hook these things (wind and solar) directly into the main electrical line and therefore it would act to lower my electricity bill, if this can be done without using batteries then I might be game.

-brad-
No. 6     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Danny   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Aug 25, 2008 at 12:40 AM     
Well question, do you think this is sufficent to keep a sailboat's batteries charged?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006JO0X8

Mod to say, will have two large marine batteries, typical electronics and lighting.
No. 7     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  joyful   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Aug 25, 2008 at 1:12 AM     
Do you sail, danny?
No. 8     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Danny   Gender: M   Age: 49   on  Aug 25, 2008 at 1:57 AM     
Well, not yet. Let's just say I invest in it so far.
No. 9     Reply: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bahama_man9   Gender: M   Age: 46   on  Aug 25, 2008 at 9:04 PM     
Danny wrote:

Well, not yet. Let's just say I invest in it so far.


Hurrah for "Wind power!" :2thumbs:
No. 10     Reply: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bahama_man9   Gender: M   Age: 46   on  Aug 25, 2008 at 9:11 PM     
Danny wrote:

Well question, do you think this is sufficient to keep a sailboat's batteries charged?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006JO0X8

Mod to say, will have two large marine batteries, typical electronics and lighting.


Would like need more than a few at only 15 watts each. I'd go with at least 4.

Depends on what you mean by, "typical electronics" and how often you use them.

As far as Cabin lighting go with LED Cabin lights, they never burn out, and use the least amount of juice. And try and get the "dual" clear-red ones. Use a red one near you Navigation station so it does not disrupt your, "night vision" if Sailing at night.

Scroll down, look at, "Cabin light" and, "Nova red/white":

http://www.kansaswindpower.net/LED%20Lights.htm

For cost effective LED lighting scroll down to, "Screw Base LED Light" (only $15) 12volt, but screws into a standard 110 socket.
No. 11     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  joyful   Gender: F   Age: 52   on  Aug 27, 2008 at 6:29 PM     
I have inherited a Katamaran, actually two of them so there ought to be enough parts (cables, sails, pulleys etc.) for at least one. I just wish I knew how to put one together without major research.
No. 12     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  May 20, 2012 at 8:09 PM     

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-news/china-blasts-us-over-tariffs-on-solar-imports/article2436721/?utm_medium=Feeds:%20RSS/Atom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2436721
No. 13     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Darrell   Gender: M   Age: 58   on  May 20, 2012 at 9:58 PM     
As a reseller of solar energy products, I have been seeing the impact over the past couple months. 80 watt fixed panels I could get for like $375 dollars last year are now $500. 26 watt folding panels I could get for like $200 last year are now $350. A folding 52 watt that could be had for like $600 last year is now at $1200.
No. 14     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Devaprakash   Gender: M   Age: 68   on  May 21, 2012 at 1:44 AM     
Solar water heaters are compulsory for new houses in our state that is facing huge deficit in conventional electrical energy!The cost is partly borne by the government.
No. 15     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 52   on  Dec 19, 2012 at 12:41 AM     
No. 16     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Jun 22, 2016 at 1:14 PM     
Just won an APC backup UPS at auction for less than $15. This one is rated at 450 watts continuous, 725 peak. It has been tested and works. It has a slide out replaceable battery.

It is also a surge suppressor, with additional surge suppression for 75ohm antenna cable, and cat5 cables as well.

The main reason I bought it for though is to use as a stand alone 120vac power inverter with my solar system. For smaller, normal everyday use loads.

I have a much bigger inverter but don't want to use it all the time except for those bigger loads because it has 3 fans in it. and fans use energy. Plus the fan bearings eventually wear out!

So I decided to modify a UPS instead, which has no fan.

It will be a simple modification. You just disconnect the existing battery, hookup the wires to your battery bank, preferably with a suitably rated fuse in between, and unsolder the little piezo buzzer alarm.

One thing you have to make sure of though is that your battery bank voltage you use matches the original battery voltage inside the UPS.

In other words, if the UPS originally use a 12v battery then you would need to have a 12v battery bank in your solar system.

You can sometimes find old UPS systems in Thrift stores for sale pretty cheap too. Usually it just has a dead battery, which you won't need anyway.
No. 17     Reply: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Jun 22, 2016 at 1:22 PM     
insular926 wrote:



Those work really well i've heard and can get really hot! I've thought about building one before. Fairly labor intensive but very cheap!

Your biggest expense will be the big sheet of clear plastic. It has to be resistant to high temperatures as well.

An alternative is the one built with aluminum gutter downspouts (instead of beer cans) painted black. Using downspouts eliminates much of the labor of cutting holes in the tops and bottoms of old beer and pop cans. Cost could be cheap too. Why you could simply go "acquisition" your unruly neighbor's downspouts then quickly cut them up to the desired length and spraypaint them black pronto!
No. 18     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Jun 22, 2016 at 1:52 PM     
I am currently working on getting the parts needed and ready for a centralized "control center" of sorts where I have all the Meters and solar connections tied together in one rack mounted cabinet.

It will have a semi-professional look when i'm done.

I have a number of standard old relay rack chassis thanks to a Government auction I got them at years ago.

I will scrap the existing front panels on one of them and order a brand new blank metal panel to install the meters, etc.

The Terminal strips for hooking all the wires up i'll install on the back of the chassis.

2 reasonably priced sources for blank aluminum or steel relay rack panel faceplates are:

https://www.parts-express.com/cat/rack-panels/619

http://www.mpja.com/19-Rack-Systems/departments/104/

I will be using individual, smaller analog meters for various solar panels so I can monitor many of them individually at only $3.95 per meter:

http://www.mpja.com/Misc-Panel-Meters/products/280/



I will be installing this digital one (see below) between my battery bank and the Inverters.

One of the meters i'll be mounting is this one I got a few weeks ago from Marlin P Jones at the below link for $17.95.

It measures DC Current up to 100 Amps and comes with the necessary 100 Amp Shunt, DC Voltage from 6.5 vdc to 100 vdc, also measures Watts up to 10KW, and Watt-Hours used as well!

This thing almost does it all and basically is the Solar person's version of your electric meter outside your house! But since it also measures voltage and current it does more.

One could also install it between your Solar Panels and the Charge Controller. Or 2 of them, one for the Solar Panel Bank/Charge Controller and another for the battery bank/Inverter! I'll probably pick another one up sometime to do just that and leave the analog meters in place for monitoring individual panels or banks of them.

http://www.mpja.com/Panel-Meter-DC-Snap-in-Multi-Function-DC-100V-100A-10KW/productinfo/32542+ME/

No. 19     Reply: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Jun 22, 2016 at 1:56 PM     


No. 20     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  insular926   Gender: M   Age: 56   on  Jun 22, 2016 at 2:01 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

insular926 wrote:


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-news/china-blasts-us-over-tariffs-on-solar-imports/article2436721/?utm_medium=Feeds:%20RSS/Atom&utm_source=Home&utm_content=2436721


Is there any way you can get rid of the "Bold" attribute or make the link smaller so we don't have to scroll back and forth on this thread?

It is stretching the screen out!
No. 21     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Jun 22, 2016 at 2:23 PM     
One reason I chose to use analog meters to monitor individual panels is because of the cost! $3.95 per meter is pretty cheap!

Another reason is well because, analog meters are "Retro" and give it that old tech look!

But I DO love that cool blue display the digital one offers, as well as the multi-function capabilities!

So I decided on using both analog and digital, the old and the new.

Since buying an assortment of Greenlee chassis punches is way out of my budget I will likely use a drill to cut a 3/8" starter hole in the faceplate for each meter, then this Nibling tool:

http://www.mpja.com/Nibbling-Tool-for-Copper-Aluminum-PC-Board/productinfo/31197+TL



Then maybe use a Dremel Moto Tool to clean up the rough edges.

Might pick a generic one up cheap at Harbor Freight instead of a Dremel brand.
No. 22     Reply: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Jun 22, 2016 at 2:29 PM     
Darrell wrote:

As a reseller of solar energy products, I have been seeing the impact over the past couple months. 80 watt fixed panels I could get for like $375 dollars last year are now $500. 26 watt folding panels I could get for like $200 last year are now $350. A folding 52 watt that could be had for like $600 last year is now at $1200.


Prices have come WAY down since you posted this!

Solar panels are now regularly selling for less than $1 per watt!

Even .85 cents a watt or even cheaper.

I try and buy mine only when on sale.

The folding panels of course are still pricey, but much cheaper than the above.
No. 23     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 54   on  Jun 22, 2016 at 2:34 PM     
Tomorrow i'll order some fuse holders for fusing each individual solar panel.

Will just use standard AGC fuses, they are readily available and only .10 each.

Solar panels should be fuse in the unlikely event of a lightning strike and or a nearby power line falling on them, etc.

The frames of the panels should be grounded too.

Not that any of that would necessarily stop damage from a lightning strike but it is better to have the safety measures in place than none at all.

Plus Electrical Codes require it.

So still working on all of the above.
No. 24     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 102   on  Jun 22, 2016 at 2:41 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Darrell wrote:

As a reseller of solar energy products, I have been seeing the impact over the past couple months. 80 watt fixed panels I could get for like $375 dollars last year are now $500. 26 watt folding panels I could get for like $200 last year are now $350. A folding 52 watt that could be had for like $600 last year is now at $1200.


Prices have come WAY down since you posted this!

Solar panels are now regularly selling for less than $1 per watt!

Even .85 cents a watt or even cheaper.

I try and buy mine only when on sale.

The folding panels of course are still pricey, but much cheaper than the above.


Since then I have purchased a lot of folding panels at ridiculously low prices. Used and brand new. Every time I encountered a "good deal" I snatched them up, often being the only bidder and then being offered the entire lot available at my bid.

Have since resold them all at double to triple what I paid for them, except for a couple I held back for myself.
No. 25     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Jun 23, 2017 at 5:59 AM     
Just ordered another 50watt Solar Panel to match 2 I already have.

This one is a different brand though (Vikram) and made in India by a major manufacturer there.

It looks pretty much like my existing ones.

The price is good, only $1.18 per watt, $59.00.

https://www.altestore.com/store/solar-panels/vikram-solar-panels-p40662/#VIK50-12P
.
They make other sized panels up to 200watts.
No. 26     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Jun 24, 2017 at 2:13 PM     
I have prints and plans for building solar panels, and even contemplated starting a business doing such, but you can purchase them pretty reasonably these days. In fact, I still do package up and sell a portable solar generator now and then. But for the most part these are off the shelf components. Nothing I have to fab except for maybe some custom cables and/or adaptors to meet a specific need.

The most efficient folding ones, and many of the portable ones made of the latest and greatest materials, remain pretty costly. Some of the folding ones I package with the generator kits cannot be touched for less than $500.
No. 27     Reply: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Jun 27, 2017 at 7:00 PM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Just ordered another 50watt Solar Panel to match 2 I already have.

This one is a different brand though (Vikram) and made in India by a major manufacturer there.

It looks pretty much like my existing ones.

The price is good, only $1.18 per watt, $59.00.

https://www.altestore.com/store/solar-panels/vikram-solar-panels-p40662/#VIK50-12P
.
They make other sized panels up to 200watts.


It arrived today and I could strangle the FEDEX delivery person who left it leaning out by the front fence. Not a good place for it! Someone may think it is something i'm throwing out and grab it. :headbang::no-no:

And besides that my delivery instructions specifically said to leave it on the deck.

I should file a complaint with FEDEX.

Most of the drivers are pretty good and leave the packages on the deck.

Whomever this driver is must be lazy as all heck. He/she only has to walk another 25' or so reach my deck.:rolleyes:

Anyway the quality of this latest panel made in India appears to be just a little better than the other 50 watt panels I have that were made in China.

Tomorrow we hook it up and test it out then add it to the group of panels.
No. 28     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Jul 13, 2017 at 3:58 PM     
Ordered 6 of these the other day. They are even cheaper than analog meters and measure up to 100 volts dc, up to 10amps of current.

I ordered them direct from China for only $2.56 each free shipping included. As well as a no questions asked money back guarantee through Aliexpress if they don't arrive for some reason.

I already have one I had ordered from a different source at a much higher price.

Unlike my blue LCD multifunction display these can be easily seen from across the room, they are very bright!

I figured at this low price I can afford to have one to monitor each Solar Panel or groups of the smaller panels.

No. 29     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Shiyloh   Gender: F   Age: 33   on  Jul 18, 2017 at 8:34 AM     
i am going to be re hooking an old system as soon as money permits.. all i have is a small 750 watt inverter and 2 deep cell batteries and 4 old small panels and one newer larger one.. and a long thick cable.... remembering something about needing two panels at a time .. after first one.. and can i get by for now without a "regulator" till i can afford.. i have no money or income and live in a handbuilt shack could not even afford a candle for the past year .. not sure i still have my battery connectors and forget how to cross connect them and can i just connect long cable to one.. my x used to do all this so i am forgetting it all.. especially him...hahaha... jerk.. i met him on here we were married for 12 years.. ( don't ask me anything about all that.. trying to move on) CAN U SEND ME A CLEAR PICTURe OF HOW TO CROSS CONNECT MY BATTERIES..?
No. 30     Reply: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Jul 18, 2017 at 4:07 PM     
Shiyloh wrote:

i am going to be re hooking an old system as soon as money permits.. all i have is a small 750 watt inverter and 2 deep cell batteries and 4 old small panels and one newer larger one.. and a long thick cable.... remembering something about needing two panels at a time .. after first one.. and can i get by for now without a "regulator" till i can afford.. i have no money or income and live in a handbuilt shack could not even afford a candle for the past year .. not sure i still have my battery connectors and forget how to cross connect them and can i just connect long cable to one.. my x used to do all this so i am forgetting it all.. especially him...hahaha... jerk.. i met him on here we were married for 12 years.. ( don't ask me anything about all that.. trying to move on) CAN U SEND ME A CLEAR PICTURe OF HOW TO CROSS CONNECT MY BATTERIES..?


Wow a lot to learn about there.

First off what voltage are your batteries? 12v or 6v ?

And what voltage are your solar panels putting out with no load on them as measured with a voltmeter?

Or is there a label on the back of the panels with the specs on it?

Whether you can use the panels directly on the batteries without a regulator depends on the voltage the solar panels generate as well as the current of them as well as the amp-hour capacity of your batteries.

Best to learn as much as possible online before attempting any hookups.
No. 31     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Jul 18, 2017 at 4:47 PM     
Having at least 3 vehicles at any one time, I often do not drive all regularly. The Saab is typically the winter car, with the Corvette being the summer car, the Mustang rarely driven either season, the truck only when a truck is needed, etc.. Anyway, not unusual to jump in one of them after it has been sitting for a while, if an old battery, and for it to be dead.

I recently checked local stores for those solar powered trickle chargers/battery maintainers. Could not locate one anywhere. I was going to put one on each vehicle before I left on this last trip. I am back home now, at least through Friday, and plan to order a couple on Amazon.
No. 32     Reply: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Jul 18, 2017 at 6:29 PM     
Survivor698 wrote:

Having at least 3 vehicles at any one time, I often do not drive all regularly. The Saab is typically the winter car, with the Corvette being the summer car, the Mustang rarely driven either season, the truck only when a truck is needed, etc.. Anyway, not unusual to jump in one of them after it has been sitting for a while, if an old battery, and for it to be dead.

I recently checked local stores for those solar powered trickle chargers/battery maintainers. Could not locate one anywhere. I was going to put one on each vehicle before I left on this last trip. I am back home now, at least through Friday, and plan to order a couple on Amazon.


Menard's has them, as does Harbor Freight.
No. 33     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Jul 19, 2017 at 6:03 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Survivor698 wrote:

Having at least 3 vehicles at any one time, I often do not drive all regularly. The Saab is typically the winter car, with the Corvette being the summer car, the Mustang rarely driven either season, the truck only when a truck is needed, etc.. Anyway, not unusual to jump in one of them after it has been sitting for a while, if an old battery, and for it to be dead.

I recently checked local stores for those solar powered trickle chargers/battery maintainers. Could not locate one anywhere. I was going to put one on each vehicle before I left on this last trip. I am back home now, at least through Friday, and plan to order a couple on Amazon.


Menard's has them, as does Harbor Freight.


I do not have either of those stores here in my immediate locale, but each are in neighboring cities. I may check them out. Thanks.
No. 34     Reply: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Jul 26, 2017 at 2:08 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Ordered 6 of these the other day. They are even cheaper than analog meters and measure up to 100 volts dc, up to 10amps of current.

I ordered them direct from China for only $2.56 each free shipping included. As well as a no questions asked money back guarantee through Aliexpress if they don't arrive for some reason.

I already have one I had ordered from a different source at a much higher price.

Unlike my blue LCD multifunction display these can be easily seen from across the room, they are very bright!

I figured at this low price I can afford to have one to monitor each Solar Panel or groups of the smaller panels.



These arrived from China Monday. That's pretty quick.

Now I have to look for a board to mount them to. Will likely install a long screw terminal strip for hookup.
No. 35     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 8:01 AM     
I just ordered 2 more Vikram 50 watt solar panels today. These are the ones made in India. The ones I ordered a few Months ago seem ok so I got 2 more.
That should give my system a good boost!
No. 36     Reply: Re: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 8:26 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

Survivor698 wrote:

Having at least 3 vehicles at any one time, I often do not drive all regularly. The Saab is typically the winter car, with the Corvette being the summer car, the Mustang rarely driven either season, the truck only when a truck is needed, etc.. Anyway, not unusual to jump in one of them after it has been sitting for a while, if an old battery, and for it to be dead.

I recently checked local stores for those solar powered trickle chargers/battery maintainers. Could not locate one anywhere. I was going to put one on each vehicle before I left on this last trip. I am back home now, at least through Friday, and plan to order a couple on Amazon.


Menard's has them, as does Harbor Freight.


I was near both stores yesterday. I stopped at Harbor Freight and checked theirs out, as well as wandering the store for at least an hour checking tons of other things out. If I allowed myself, I could spend a lot of money at Harbor Freight. Anyway, I spent so long wandering around Harbor Freight, I then opted to run across the street and grab a Halo Burger. Ate the burger and left forgetting to run into Menards. Senior moment.

I do plan to go back to Harbor Freight and get one of the small solar chargers. But I am waiting until September 4th. I have coupons only good for the 4th that will get me up to 25% off, including off the sale prices advertised for the 4th. I am going back on the 4th and loading up with a couple hundred dollars of items.

I need to borrow a truck to get all the stuff home anyway. One item I am getting is a large wood top workbench with drawers. I simply have no way to haul such at this time. I am having a cookout with family that day, and there will be at least 3 trucks there.
No. 37     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 8:54 PM     
Am going to have to pickup some heavier wiring too since my system has grown and carries more current. For now am going to wire most of the panels in parallel together on the roof and then bring one line down inside.

Later on an individual line to each panel but that costs more $.

Have to start watching things and be sure and install plenty of fuses and such since the threat of a potential fire increases with larger installations.
No. 38     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Aug 31, 2017 at 10:04 PM     
I did get over to Menards today. They have at least 3 different ones of those solar chargers for auto batteries. I need to compare, but I think I like one of Menard's offerings more so than what is at Harbor Freight. I desire to eventually have at least 3. Maybe I will purchase one at each store, and put them to the test side by side.

Have never been much of a fan of Menards, thus have not been in their doors in quite a while. But I have to say I was impressed with many of their offerings in several departments. Not to mention I encountered two acquaintances that work there. One of them knows well what my background is, he was once a management peer in another life, and did his best to tempt me to consider applying for a job. I don't know. Have been there and done that. But the minimum up front salary offer was 50% more than what The Home Depot was paying me.
No. 39     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 12:38 AM     
I have always preferred Menard's over Home Depot.

Menard's is usually cheaper also.

No. 40     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Bullfighter279   Gender: M   Age: 55   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 12:43 AM     
When I got home I found FEDEX had just placed the huge box right at the front of the property line next to the gate again just like last time.

One of these days someone is just going to haul it away thinking it is garbage since my garbage can is right there also.

Or the neighborhood kids will destroy it because of all the CAUTION GLASS labels all around the outside of the box.

UPS Drivers always place packages on my deck next to my door.

Strangely they came packaged end to end not staked on top of each other in the box.

Didn't have time to check them for damage but the box looks ok. Will hook them up in a few days on my day off.
No. 41     Reply: Re: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  Survivor698   Gender: M   Age: 103   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 2:03 AM     
Bullfighter279 wrote:

I have always preferred Menard's over Home Depot.

Menard's is usually cheaper also.



Although way more money than I will pay for it, Menards also had an interesting wind turbine generator on the shelf.
No. 42     Reply: Re: Build It Yourself Solar Projects   
By:  crayons   Gender: M   Age: 61   on  Sep 3, 2017 at 2:13 AM     
Don't accept any Glass shipments
from ""any"" shipper without inspection.

All glass inspections must be done in front of
the Delivery Driver; with no less than 2 witnesses
before signing the B.O.L//bill!

Solar panels n' windshields aint cheap hippy's!